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Google Releases Picasa for Linux

CowboyNeal posted more than 7 years ago | from the pretty-pictures dept.

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chrisd writes "Hi, everyone. Today I'm pleased to announce that we're making Picasa, our photo management application, available for Linux. This is a pre-beta labs release and since we're still learning on how to best make software for Linux, we're asking that you submit your bugs as you find them. Picasa for Linux uses Wine internally; this shows a bit in the interface, but it works even better than we had hoped. Download it and check it out! A list of supported distributions can be found in the FAQ. We hope our patches to Wine will help make it easier for everyone to run Windows apps on Linux and other Unix-like systems. Thanks to our pals at CodeWeavers who did much of the heavy lifting, and to Marcus Meissner, whose libgphoto support patch was a welcome surprise."

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Files available in US only (apparantly) (5, Informative)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408556)

So, use coral as your proxy :)

http://picasa.google.com.nyud.net:8080/linux/ [nyud.net]
http://picasa.google.com.nyud.net:8080/linux/faq.h tml [nyud.net]

Chris, looks good so far, big thanks.

Re:Files available in US only (apparantly) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408595)

Then apparantly Comcast in Michigan is considered a foreign country.

Re:Files available in US only (apparantly) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408664)

Then apparantly Comcast in Michigan is considered a foreign country.

When did Michigan become part of the South? =)

MOD PARENT DOWN!!! (apparantly) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408597)

Mod parent down! Karma whore!! Original Google page loads faster and without problems in Asia. The Coral cache is actually slower.

And BTW: Is 'apparantly' a special type of rant?

Re:MOD PARENT DOWN!!! (apparantly) (2, Informative)

forgotten_my_nick (802929) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408632)

He was referring to that the rest of the world can't download the product unless they use a proxy.

Re:MOD PARENT DOWN!!! (apparantly) (2, Informative)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408653)

It might be faster to use the correct link where you are, but considering how I get:

404 Not Found

Error

Not Found
The requested URL /linux/faq.html was not found on this server.


and the comments in the google groups [google.com] page discovered its not working outside the US made the "apparantly" there.

I'm glad it works for you in Asia, but it doesn't work here in England.

Re:MOD PARENT DOWN!!! (apparantly) (2, Interesting)

ThJ (641955) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408786)

Google did this kind of thing when they launched Google Video too. Does anyone know why it excludes the rest of the world when launching new sites? It's the only company I personally know that has web pages that only work in certain countries.

Re:Files available in US only (apparantly) (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408602)

It seems like Google haven't had time to update their international mirror sites.

(*.google.com transparently redirects to localized versions based on your IP, if you don't force it to do otherwise..)

wow (2, Insightful)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408562)

This is the kind of quality software that linux desperately lacks. It is interesting how wine was used here. I wonder if this will lead to the porting of other google apps like google earth.

Re:wow (4, Funny)

Ithika (703697) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408573)

It's okay, we've already got plenty of pre-beta software. Have you seen SourceForge lately? Thanks. :o)

Re:wow (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408581)

Wine? Are they kidding us? no thanks.

Re:wow (1)

alphasubzero949 (945598) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408617)

And sadly enough, it will still be lacking for those in the PowerPC camp. I'm curious as to their rationale for using wine in their development.

theoretically (1)

xmodem_and_rommon (884879) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408680)

i don't think its been used here, but in theory, if you use wineLib to port an application to linux, it should compile on other architectures. YMMV. I can't find the page on winehq.org that has the details.

Re:wow (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408672)

Not to be one to spread rumours, but ...
Google recently turned up at Oxford University to tell us all about job prospects with them. There was a Question and Answer session at the end, and the chap from their Mobile department was asked whether Google Earth was coming to Linux anytime soon. He said he knew the answer, but wasn't going to tell us.
Read into it what you will.

Re:wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408710)

Vista beta 2, falls short again for the corporate market except where sponsored reviews tell use otherwise.

Linux is the next platform of choice for Adobe, with their media workstations.

The Yahoo + EBay portal has no OS dependencies issues

Google are going head to head with Microsoft and Yahoo for the client portal revenues.


Hmmm. Will Google support Linux in the future?

Re:wow (1)

msh104 (620136) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408749)

try digikam, it's a pretty good alternative to picasa.
the only thing that I really noticed to be out of place is the bar on the top with the file, edit, view, etc options. it doesn't look like a native widget. but changing the color to the same color i use everywhere would already do a lot of good by itself;)

other then that, I must say that the application is very fast and quite snappy.

though i prefer a true native port I'd say thumbs up for making it a high quality port ;)

I found a bug already! (4, Funny)

Hektor_Troy (262592) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408574)

First of all, http://picasa.google.com/linux/faq.html [google.com] doesn't exist.

Didn't really get any further than that.

Re:I found a bug already! (0)

FirienFirien (857374) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408611)

Perhaps that's because, considering it's only just been released, there's no questions that have been frequently asked yet?

Re:I found a bug already! (1, Insightful)

saboola (655522) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408619)

Huh?

What versions of Linux does Picasa support? Will Picasa run on a 64-bit version of Linux? Will Picasa run with XFCE, Blackbox, or another Window Manager? What are the Picasa for Linux system requirements?

Maybe you are having intarweb problems? Contact your IT group immediately.

Re:I found a bug already! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408742)

Heh. They should rename that to the "More reasons that Linux is not ready for the desktop FAQ".

Why US only? (1, Redundant)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408575)

Why is the Linux version restricted to the US only? The Windows version is downloadable anywhere.

PS - Can anyone mirror the binary somewhere? You can't download it using the above coral proxy.

Coral works here (1)

Teun (17872) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408670)

Indeed strange that the direct link does not work.
At first I wondered why someone would make a Coral link to Google, Google probably being the least likely site to be /.ed ...

Via the Coral proxy I (The Netherlands) do get to all the parts of the site, including the download.
The 20.7MB .deb file downloaded very fast and the install on my up to date Kubuntu was just as quick and without a hickup.
My first impression is, It looks just like the MS version :)

The fact that it's not OSS can not excite me, I run software for what it does and so far this looks good.
At least ntil it's found out all my thumbnails are (for safe keeping) copied to google.com :)

not free (4, Insightful)

Anneco (710407) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408578)

Nice that you can use Picasa with Wine under Linux. But it is no free software (GPL, BSD or open source).

No source code.

Re:not free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408596)

Do you need a copy of windows on the machine to run wine? For some reason I thought wine needed libraries from an installation or something to work.

Re:not free (1)

Cicero382 (913621) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408648)

No, you don't. Wine runs "out of the box" without any additions from Microsoft.

They have their own versions of dll's and the like. It's an emulator rather than a virtual machine.

Unfortunately, WINE doesn't work very well with more obscure applications (for example, I tried running some poker s/w - no go). Though it does have quite an impressive list of things that *do* work - 4097 to date (see http://appdb.winehq.org/ [winehq.org]).

I suspect that they are one of the many developers out there who have been a victim of the Microsoft policy of obfuscation and changing API's to thwart anyone else but the chosen (and usually expensive) few.

Re:not free (1, Insightful)

Cicero382 (913621) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408599)

I hadn't noticed that.

This makes my question of "Why announce it on /.?" a bit more pertinent, I think.

Who said it was free? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408610)

It's a propietary application that now also runs on Linux.

In case you didn't know, propietary applications can and do run on Linux.
If you don't want to use propietary apps, simply don't use them.

And btw., at least the porting of this app has given back an enourmous amount of code to wine, a free software project, which is great imho.

Re:not free (5, Informative)

root_42 (103434) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408627)

And while we're at it. There is a free alternative [digikam.org]. It has even got all the spiffy KDE features like ioslaves and so on at its hands. Plus all the cameras supported that gphoto2 has.

Re:not free (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408665)

I use digikam also, and I attest that it's probably one of the better photo management packages i've seen. Extremely simple, and has most of the features that everyday users would want. I like that it just uses plain old directories to store your pictures, instead of trying to do something more complex to accomplish the same thing.

Re:not free (2, Informative)

Stalyn (662) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408690)

Don't forget about F-Spot [f-spot.org] for us GNOME users.

Re:not free (4, Funny)

jkrise (535370) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408777)

Don't forget about F-Spot for us GNOME users.

No thanks... I'd rather wait a while till the product reaches the G-Spot!

Re:not free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408638)

What is your point?

Just because it is on linux doesn't mean it has to be open source.

Re:not free (5, Insightful)

MojoRilla (591502) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408657)

Typical Linux whine.

No where in this annoucement do they say that they are releasing Picasa as open source software. They do allow use of it free of charge.

Software developers are really in a bind with Linux. If you don't create software for Linux, Linux people whine that you are not supporting them.

Create software for Linux, Linux people whine that its not open source.

Picasa is an awesome photo management application. Be glad Google ported it to Linux, and that you can use it for free. If you demand that all software you use is open source, look elsewhere. Note that there are many useful applications that developers, for many reasons, don't want to release as open source. Limiting yourself to open source limits your choices.

Re:not free (4, Informative)

Bungopolis (763083) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408679)

It should further be noted that Google in the process of porting Picasa to Linux participated in committing a number of patches back into the Wine source, as can be seen here [google.com].

Re:not free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408707)

Digikam is every bit as good as this piece of shit that ripped off the style of iPhoto. There's no reason to care.

Re:not free (1, Insightful)

cafard (666342) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408716)

Typical "my-opinion-counts-more-than-yours" whine.

Nowhere in the parent post does the author states that he demands all software to be released as open source. He says that the Picasa release is nice, but that it isn't open source, a point that wasn't touched in the announcement.

Surprisingly, you'll find that software licenses do matter for some people. Obviously, you don't agree, and can't resist tagging these concerns as a 'whine'. How should we classify your rant?

Re:not free (1)

electronerdz (838825) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408720)

Or as many would say about Linux.

If you don't like the current one, change it... you can get the source and make it how you want... not a programmer you say? Well, neither am I. So "free" alterntatives like Picasa, I can go for. Which by the way is running great so far on my system.

Re:not free (4, Informative)

N Monkey (313423) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408728)

Typical Linux whine. No where in this annoucement do they say that they are releasing Picasa as open source software. They do allow use of it free of charge. Software developers are really in a bind with Linux. If you don't create software for Linux, Linux people whine that you are not supporting them. Create software for Linux, Linux people whine that its not open source.
Actually, it sounds like there should be enough to even stop the latter from moaning. According to the WINE home page:
Google just released Picasa for Linux. .... Interestingly, there's some technical details available about how the Linux version came to be. The port was done using Wine and in the process over 200 patches were contributed back to the Wine project.

Re:not free (5, Insightful)

Bromskloss (750445) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408763)

Limiting yourself to open source limits your choices.
Many of us care about the freedom that comes with free software. Compare with free speech and free press. In the long run, it's really non-free software that limits ones choices. Compare again with free speech in this example:

Someone offers you to come live in their country, but only under the condition that you keep very quiet about your own opinions and never criticize the government. Initially, it may seem that standing firm in your belief in free speech would limit your choices -- you would have to turn down the offer to live in that country. It is not hard to see, however, how abandoning free speech is what really would deprive you of your freedom. Who knows, after some time you might not even be able to leave their country, would you wish to do so.

Re:not free - or: check out f-spot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408760)

No, it is not free nor nativ. So why not go with f-spot [f-spot.org] insted?

For Linux??? It runs on Wine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408579)

It's not exactly like they rewrote the whole thing to run on Linux. Had Wine not existed would they have bothered? Doubt it.

All very well, but... (2, Insightful)

Cicero382 (913621) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408582)

I don't get it. Why announce a fairly standard application on /.? Surely Freshmeat would be a better forum? And the other stuff about reporting bugs and submitting updates to other FOSS projects is hardly new, either.

Don't get me wrong - I'm always happy to see new contributions to the cause, but this makes me a bit uneasy, somehow.

Re:All very well, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408600)

For christ sakes, you feel UNEASY about some new software being posted to a WEBSITE.

Don't get me wrong - I'm happy you're a damn retard.

Re:All very well, but... (1)

Cicero382 (913621) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408687)

No, I was uneasy because /. seems to be a strange place to announce such a thing.

So strange that I wonder why.

And... Why the abuse?

It's NOT "fairly standard", it's for LINUX! (4, Insightful)

ThinkingInBinary (899485) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408630)

Why announce a fairly standard application on /.?

It's not a "fairly standard application" that we all take for granted. It's Google, a big corporation, openly and freely providing one of their major software applications for Linux (albeit using Wine). This does NOT happen very often, and we should bow down and praise those (Google) who do it! It's NOT just a "regular" software release.

Re:It's NOT "fairly standard", it's for LINUX! (1)

Cicero382 (913621) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408734)

"It's not a "fairly standard application" that we all take for granted. It's Google, a big corporation, openly and freely providing one of their major software applications for Linux (albeit using Wine). This does NOT happen very often, and we should bow down and praise those (Google) who do it! It's NOT just a "regular" software release."

But it is!

Many other large corporations have thrown their weight behind FOSS to one degree or another. What makes this so different?

And by the way...
"we should bow down and praise those (Google) who do it"
I think not! The furthest I would go is "Nice one - kudos to you"

Re:All very well, but... (1, Informative)

gowen (141411) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408683)

Because its Google, and Google is the only thing capable of giving CowboyNeal a hard-on.

Re:All very well, but... (2, Interesting)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408701)

This is, to my knowledge, the first desktop application for Linux from Google. In the past, they were often criticised for using Linux on their servers and otherwise supporting it, but not providing Linux ports of their own applications - just check any past /. discussion on Google Earth or Picasa. So, yes, I'd say /. is a proper place for such an announcement.

I expected more than just a WineLib port, though. Hopes were high that they would use one of the de-facto standard widget toolkits for Linux, GTK+ or Qt... ah, well. At least it works.

Finally! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408584)

I was thinking why Google being so much in favour of free information flow and so on (ahem, ahem, disregard Chinese Google) seems to be discriminating Linux users...

But finally things are beginning to change - and I do appreciate it. Will install it right away.

Good luck, Google!

Barts_706

Re:Finally! (1)

lpcustom (579886) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408725)

I've been waiting on a true PORT of Google Earth for a long time. Just because a program will run using wine does not mean its ported to Linux. Wine still has it's own problems. I will use wine when it's needed, though I'd prefer this is rare.
I don't like Google's attitude toward Linux. A Google Earth port was promised to arrive "soon" after the first Windows Release. Time went by, and a Mac version was released. Someone got GE working using wine in Gentoo. Google gave up. I guess they didn't feel the need to write a linux version. "let them wine it" was their belief. I just wish Google would realize, we don't want to have to wine it if someone is willing to actually port it.
You see, all you Windows folks, this is why we love free open source software. If this were open source we would have a Linux version. Why isn't it open source???? It free of cost....why not let people use the source?

suprise? (1)

raffe (28595) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408603)

"and to Marcus Meissner, whose libgphoto support patch was a welcome surprise"
Can someone explain this?

Re:suprise? (5, Informative)

Bungopolis (763083) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408646)

libgphoto [gphoto.org] is an OSS library for interfacing with digital cameras. Marcus Meissner [www.lst.de] is a major Wine developer. Presumably, he wrote a patch that integrates libgphoto with Wine, thus enabling Picassa to download photos from digital cameras - a neccessary feature that would not have otherwise been available as part of the Wine API.

Re:suprise? (2, Interesting)

roystgnr (4015) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408740)

Presumably, he wrote a patch that integrates libgphoto with Wine, thus enabling Picassa to download photos from digital cameras - a neccessary feature that would not have otherwise been available as part of the Wine API.

Are you sure? All the digital cameras I've ever used have been USB Storage devices - so, presuming your Linux distribution is friendly about autodetecting and automounting, downloading photos from cameras can be no more esoteric than reading a file off your hard drive.

Re:suprise? (2, Informative)

resiak (583703) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408775)

Lots of cameras use PTP [wikipedia.org], rather than USB Mass Storage. My Canon IXUS 55 is one example. I'm not sure why they do. =) Anyway, libgphoto is what's generally used to speak to such cameras.

Re:suprise? (2, Informative)

msparshatt (877862) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408790)

Some cameras (like the Kodak Z740 that I use) use PTP for uploading pictures rather than USB mass storage. You need GPhoto in order to access the pictures from these sorts of cameras.

Cross platform development (1)

darkchubs (814225) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408640)

wait, why would an app like this be an issue, with cross platform development? wx-windows (WXwidgets now), C++ and compile for windows in cygwin er any number of cross platform compilers. The point being you have to start out with the intent of parallel platform development not app porting.. Trolltech, Java, wx-widgets, cygwin ( "google" a few of those :) )

Google bought Picasa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408669)

This is because Google acquired [google.com] Picasa, at a stage in its development when it was already relatively mature software.

Re:Cross platform development (1)

jocknerd (29758) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408788)

I'm no expert, but to me, cross-platform development is taking a lowest common denominator approach. For instance, Adobe's Photoshop may have originated on the Mac, but the current versions of it are designed primarily for Windows, not OS X. This is why you don't see Photoshop taking advantage of the technology in OS X like Core Image. Cross-platform has its advantages but for some apps, they are better off being written for a specific environment.

"Google" software for Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408644)

At least one would expect that the software would be Linux native and not run in WINE emulation. If I wanted to use Windows software, I would use Windows for that.

Thanks.

*Sigh* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408659)

I don't know why this idiot complaint comes every time wine is mentioned.

People who use wine obviously don't want to use windows, but linux and wine enables them to do this, so what exactly is your freaking problem here mate?

Re:"Google" software for Linux (4, Insightful)

FictionPimp (712802) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408689)

Wine is not emulation. Its an API. Its no different then any other linux app. No different then chosing QT over GTK or any thing else. Whats wrong with coding to a cross platform library?

Mac commercials (-1, Troll)

scooger (977245) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408647)

There is the commercial about how Mac is soooo easy for managing photos. Which is supposed to be an advantage over all of the competitiors. Yet we have Picasa for Windows and now Linux that is totally free.

Apple has the right to say what they want, but I feel like most of the pointers of this current advertising campaign are false. XP, love it of hate it, is a very solid platform. I hate malware as much as the next guy but someone needs to take Apple and all of their smug anti-virusless users down a peg. It won't be me, but if popularity continues then it will happen at some point. I will laugh.

Re:Mac commercials (1)

Rocketship Underpant (804162) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408780)

"There is the commercial about how Mac is soooo easy for managing photos. Yet we have Picasa for Windows and now Linux that is totally free"

It's terrific that Windows and Linux users are getting decent software for photo management. Still, those who haven't used Macs don't realize how good iPhoto 6 is, or how well it integrates your photo library with your other applications (iMovie, Pages, Keynote, etc.). With Automator, you can build whole automated workflows that do stuff with your photos.

"I feel like most of the pointers of this current advertising campaign are false."

Feelings mean nothing if you haven't actually tried a Mac. Are you really so jaded by years of using PCs that you don't think a computer can be that much better?

"I hate malware as much as the next guy but someone needs to take Apple and all of their smug anti-virusless users down a peg."

The smugness is hard to fight sometimes, but we can all be allowed our vices, surely.

"XP, love it of hate it, is a very solid platform."

And yet, its usability flaws and security issues have driven droves of people (like me) in search of alternate platforms.

Nooooo!! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408649)

Now we'll never see a navite port! Linux is going to die!

story title wrong. (2, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408660)

Should read Google releases Picasa that runs under wine.

Picasa for linux would be a great thing, but it seems that a native version is either not in the interest of Google or out of their reach.

I like Picasa but I really hate the half assed ness of releasing an app for "linux" when it's simply rewritten windows code so that it runs under Wine.

Google, you want to gain the everlasting love of the linux people? Release a native picasa that does not use wine in any way, shape or form.

Everyone remembers how well Corel Draw ran after they slightly rewrote it so it ran better under wine and then statically linked it to wine and released a "linux version".

No thanks.

What are you smoking? (2, Insightful)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408731)

The app does not "run under wine". It links against WineLib. Big sh*t.

In this fashion it is absolutely no different than if the app linked to GTK or QT to release a "native" version. It is native. It is compiled for and runs under Linux without any API emulators or ABI interfaces required. That is the definition of a native application.

All this aside, have you even downloaded the thing? From your comments I would venture you have not. It is extremely well-polished and as stable as the Windows version.

As someone who has worked with WineLib, I can tell you this is no easy task. They have obviously spent a good deal of time on this. Then people like you go and rant on them some more? And you wonder why hardly any companies even go to the trouble of releasing Linux versions of software.

Do you have any idea how many hundreds of thousands of dollars in man-hours and effort it would cost them to re-write every single portion of Picassa using Glib/GTK or QT?

Go back to sleep.

Re:story title wrong. (3, Insightful)

Bungopolis (763083) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408766)

Wine is an implementation of the Windows API. It is not an emulator of any kind. It enables code written using it to run natively on non-Microsoft platforms. By extension of your logic it would seem that any application written using a library "intended" for use in the Linux world (such as Gaim and GTK+) cannot be considered "native" to Windows when ported to it, but this is clearly not the case. Using Wine may not be the nicest way to develop an application from the ground-up for Linux, but if it works, it works. What Google has released is indeed a native Linux application. Furthermore they have obviously made an extensive effort to improve both the code of Picasa and of Wine [google.com] to address any bugs in Wine that might have resulted in poor performance.

Re:story title wrong. (1)

digidave (259925) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408768)

If they compiled with winelib then it would be a native Linux app. The rewriting would be to take out the stuff winelib doesn't support.

I think that's a reasonable path to take when porting smaller apps. If Wine was 100% Windows compatible then you could take any Windows source code and compile it against winelib to get a native Linux binary.

Google slashdotted? (3, Funny)

ISoldMyLowIdOnEbay (802697) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408668)

Is it me or has Gooogle disappeared? Wouldn't have thought that the 3 linux users starting a download could have caused that... :-)

Doesn't work for me in Dapper (1)

denjin (115496) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408674)

All I ever get is a Windows-like error box that mentions some page fault. Then a license screen, then a second page fault screen...no go. :(

Re:Doesn't work for me in Dapper (1)

jeremy_white (598942) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408722)

There was a broken kernel in the Dapper release cycle. You may find that if you upgrade your kernel package that you'll get more joy.

Recommendation (-1, Troll)

thebdj (768618) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408675)

Don't be lazy and actually, you know, port the code so it works natively without having to use Wine internally to run. This seems like such a lazy thing to do, it almost makes one wonder why it took you so long to do it. On top of that, it also seems pointless. If this runs using wine internally, then couldn't we have run Picasa using Wine before anyway? You really would have done nothing but bundled it up into a neat package, which would be good if most linux users weren't power users and didn't know their OS and apps.

You are also going to take a lot of flak for this not being open source software. Remember, you are releasing to Linux and if you want to keep your Google is not an evil company image with Linux users you are going to have to eventually open up the source and probably GPL it if you actually expect people to use it. So, I by actually creating a Linux version that is free of the internal wine, you will probably have enough code change that you can GPL the code without too much serious worry about your Windows version. I don't want to seem like I am calling Google out, but if you want to keep the community behind you, you really should GPL this.

Since you are learning (0, Troll)

tokul (682258) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408688)

"since we're still learning on how to best make software for Linux"
Then stop using wine for Linux programs.

First impressions (5, Informative)

kkiller (945601) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408694)

Well it works.... just like the Windows version. With the exception of slightly crummy looking fonts in the menus, the interface is quite slick and near-identical to the original, and appears to be as fast and slick as the original. Nice job.

One or two problems remain (and I'm sure more will pop up after I play with it for more than 10 minutes). It doesn't integrate into any desktop environment at all - its very much a Windows application hacked to bits so it runs smoothly in Linux, and it shows at points. With the exception of Desktop, it does not remember stored folders from either Konqueror or Nautilus, and maintains meaningless links to "My Documents", "My Pictures", "My Music" and other folders which don't exist in the file requesters. This could use some work.

Picasa and QT (2, Interesting)

tvoglou (916088) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408699)

I though Picasa was written in QT... so porting it to linux it was supposed to be an easy task.

Works in Gentoo (2, Informative)

rdwald (831442) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408704)

Using my excessively-modified Gentoo install, with the Ion window manager, it works perfectly...don't know what everyone else is complaining about.

And before someone says something, no, I didn't try to compile it from source...

No Mac version, no source, IE required... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408706)

...thanks anyway guys.

It's a start... (1)

whysanity (231556) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408711)

While this may not be a direct contribution to open source, at least we have the positive side-effect of corporate time enhancing the FOSS landscape in some way. Google mentions contributing code to Wine - and I appreciate that.

Until someone decides to make an equivalent open-source version of Picasa, I'll gladly take a free version that enhances the community as a byproduct of its development.

Keep the Windows API where it belongs! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15408714)

Thanks

Regarding the open source complaints... (2, Interesting)

rdwald (831442) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408727)

Do you people honestly think that any Google software will be released as open source? Even their Firefox extensions aren't open source! They're relatively good about contributing back to existing open source projects, but I don't know of a single novel application they've written and then released as OSS. If you're not going to use any non-open software, don't download stuff from Google.

Re:Regarding the open source complaints... (1)

Cheeze (12756) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408747)

If you're not going to use any non-open software,

Also, good luck functioning in normal society.

almost everything electronic uses non-open software, so good luck avoiding them.

Use what works.

Excellent! (1)

colin353 (964700) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408736)

Well, I don't use Picasa much.

But this is a huge step for Google- and I've heard somewhere that they will be looking into porting the rest of their software suite...

This means that a well-known company is acknowledging Linux as an operating system, which says something for the worldwide acceptance of Linux.

Maybe this is the "tip of the iceberg"?
Maybe I'm being hopeful...

who needs this? Digikam rules (0)

p80 (771195) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408753)

Digikam is way better and GPL:
http://www.digikam.org/?q=image/tid/9 [digikam.org]

it does:
Tags
Albums
Lots of cool filters like red eye
Auto-rotate
DateView with calendar
TagView a la flickr
MAKERNOTE metadata viewer
EXIF metadata viewer
GPS locator in action
IPTC Metadata Viewer
and:
FlickrExport: export images to a remote Flickr web service.
SimpleviewerExport: export your images in a nice flash movie.
HTMLGallery: export your images to HTML
RawConverter: A raw image converter for digital cameras.
SlideShow: Slideshow with effects ripped out from kslideshow and 3D effects using OpenGL.
MpegEncoder: Create an MPEG slideshow from your images.
PrintWizard: A wizard to print images in various format.
JpegLossLess: Batch process your JPEG images without losing meta information and compression.
CdArchiving: Archive your albums on CD or DVD using K3b.
ScanImages: Scanner management using Kooka.
ScreenshotImages: Snap screen based on KSnapshot and adapted to Kipi.
Calendar: A plugin to create calendars.
SendImages: A plugin to send images by email, allowing resizing and recompressing before sending.
RenameImages: Batch image renamer.
ConvertImages: Batch image converter.
BorderImages: Add border to your images in batch.
FilterImages: Batch image enhancer using digital filters.
ColorImages: Batch image color enhancer.
EffectImages: Batch image transformation effects.
ResizeImages: Batch image resizer.
RecompressImages: Batch image recompressor.
FindDuplicateImages: Find duplicate images in albums.
WallPaper: Set your image as wallpaper.
TimeAdjust: Adjust image file time and date.
GalleryExport: Interface for export images collections to remote Gallery web server.

it also comes with a great and simple yet powerfull image editor:
http://www.digikam.org/?q=image/tid/10 [digikam.org]
So picasa: We don't need you :-p

Empty shell...? (1)

RokcetScientist (900414) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408764)

Nice announcement. But it ain't there! Where is it? "Google - Error - Not Found - The requested URL /linux/ was not found on this server."

Possible motive? (2, Interesting)

jkrise (535370) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408765)

Why is Google all of a sudden releasing programs for desktops? Despite MS attitude towards them, Google actually seems to promote the 'Windows World View' of all things computing.

Even the Linux-platform releases (like this one) use Windows concepts, architecture, standards etc. So long as Linux emulates Windows, its never gonna attain superiority as a better platform.

Is it Googles intention to establish that Windows is indeed the better option for the computing world?
-

Hey I have an idea (1)

ClamIAm (926466) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408767)

Just release the source already. It's not like Picasa is a cornerstone of Google's revenue stream and has to stay closed.

Offtopic, but it must be said. (2, Insightful)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 7 years ago | (#15408779)

Thank you Google and CodeWeavers.

I know there are 100 fair reasons to mod this post down, but it just seemed important to say.

I often get depressed about changes to copyright law, patents, etc. which favor media companies at the expense of most citizens. This code contribution goes the other way. Thanks to everyone who worked on it.
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