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132 comments

"Who are they going to ally with?" (5, Funny)

talkingpaperclip (952112) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416067)

"Who are they going to ally with?"

The dark side, obviously.

Re:"Who are they going to ally with?" (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416074)

Son.. er Appl.. oh, wait. That's redundant.

They will all be assimilated... (1, Funny)

midifarm (666278) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416075)

Resistance is futile!

Re:They will all be assimilated... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416675)

This has nothing to do with the topic, but I am reminded of the best email sig I ever saw...

"We are Pentium of Borg.

Division is futile.

You will be approximated."

One of 2 choices (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416077)

Either Microsoft will join forces with Hotmail, or else MSN will team up with Microsoft for battle.

Re:One of 2 choices (1)

BobPaul (710574) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416770)

No, that's no good. What Microsoft really needs right now are some quality partners.

Re:One of 2 choices (1)

pimpimpim (811140) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417517)

Maybe if they could get their OS bundled with some of the main hardware providers, that could help them! I'm thinking about Dell, but maybe also Toshiba, IBM, Gateway. Just think about it, if they pull that one through, they could get their OS to be the market leader on the desktop!!!

Re:One of 2 choices (1)

FST777 (913657) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417624)

nah, no chance... what if Apple would use the same trick?

Microsoft should use the X-Box model (5, Interesting)

thammoud (193905) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416082)

Grow organically. Most takovers and and partnerships amongst large companies fail to realize their initial potential. MS should stop trying to shoe horn everything into the failed MSN model. Create a small team of talented people, give them some serious money and freedom and let them create. Do not impose Windows or MSN on them. Let them build the hardware, the software and the website. Do what apple does but with a much larger budget. I can use an IPOD without a Mac or having to go to apple.com (.mac).

Re:Microsoft should use the X-Box model (1)

DevanJedi (892762) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416163)

Well said- this is sort of what Microsoft is doing with Live.com

Re:Microsoft should use the X-Box model (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416182)

I'm not sure the iPod is a good example as you're shoehorned into using iTunes (hence not really free of Apple at all)

the Xbox model... (4, Informative)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416291)

The Xbox model was not to give a small team the freedom to create.

The hardware design was done by two guys who don't even work for MS, they work for a joint design and manufacturing company. The software was done in-house, but by a larger team. The Xbox OS is a derivative of (Windows) NT. Additionally, they spent untold dollars buying Bungie, RARE, Oddworld Inhabitants and other companies.

In other words, they largely followed the model you say sucks. They spent a lot of money on acquisitions, only one of which worked out (and even the Bungie Crew is all gone to Wideload and WildTangent now except for Jason Jones). And the kicker, they've so far lost a truckload of money.

It doesn't sound like the right model to me. If the Xbox team ever turns a profit it'll be because Sony are such boneheads, not because of the excellence of the Xbox model.

Re:the Xbox model... (2, Insightful)

Trelane (16124) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416549)

And the kicker, they've so far lost a truckload of money.
If "they" is the XBox division, yes. However, Microsoft itself continues to make money hand over fist via the Two Towers: Windows and Office, to the tune of several billion profit per quarter (3-4 bn USD last I saw). Thus, they can afford to lose many truckloads of money on the XBox, so long as their Two Towers stand.

This subsidized loss in the XBox division is very much worth it, since the XBox is one (fairly important) arm of their overall strategy for increasing revenue via media services. XBox is not merely a gaming console, but is being positioned as a gateway to media services on Windows/Microsoft software. With Microsoft DRM acceptance, they are unusually well-positioned for providing end-to-end near-future media services (e.g. the increasing acceptance of Microsoft's IPTV platform + Windows MCE + Windows + XBox + PocketPC/Smartphone).

Doesn't matter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416689)

It doesn't matter if you lose money in the short term as long as you make money in the long term. Microsoft goal is to increase their market share, NOT to make money at this time. They want to be #1, then the money will come.

Re:the Xbox model... (2, Interesting)

bhunachchicken (834243) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417275)

"Additionally, they spent untold dollars buying Bungie, RARE, Oddworld Inhabitants and other companies."

Correct me if I'm wrong here but Oddworld Inhabitants were never bought by Microsoft. Munch's Oddysee was moved from a PS2 exclusive to an Xbox exclusive and Stranger's Wrath was cancelled for the PS2. Infact I do believe it was Oddworld's lack of support of Sony's machine that has caused the company to exit the gaming industry... [thehollywoodreporter.com]

Re:Microsoft should use the X-Box model (1)

shoma-san (739914) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416382)

Microsoft uses both models depending on who is managing the projects and products just like any company that trys to come up with new products. But each model will either fail or work depending on the choices made by the company.

But lets be honest. Does Microsoft really need to partner with anyone they don't plan to take over or buy out?

Re:Microsoft should use the X-Box model (1)

pex2097 (961017) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416738)

Do not impose Windows or MSN on them. Let them build the hardware, the software and the website.
And its not like...Everything?!

The writer of this article... (5, Interesting)

Mikachu (972457) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416085)

obviously didn't read this. [slashdot.org]

Blame the editor (2, Insightful)

rastakid (648791) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416355)

You should blame the editor instead: the submitter submitted his story probably before the article you refer to was posted and it's always to the editors to fix this kind of things.

I hate it the Slashdot editors don't even care to read their own frontpage!

Always play nice... (2, Interesting)

coop535 (813230) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416091)

... or nobody will want to play with you. You don't hear about google/yahoo/ebay throwing chairs and uttering corporate death threats!

Seriously though, I'd kill to have Microsoft's problems though: having billions of cash on hand and shopping for that new toy.

Re:Always play nice... (1)

malraid (592373) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416126)

That might be a bigger problem than you think. For MS only really big business are worth the effort, and it's hard to find those business. Look at the XBox and the ammount of money they are pouring into it.

Re:Always play nice... (2, Insightful)

Znork (31774) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416437)

Without a doubt. Yet, instead of paying out the money they dont know what to do with in dividends or doing stock buybacks, like so many others they try to pretend they're better than their shareholders at deciding what the shareholders money should be invested in.

It's a classic, probably a psychological control issue for boards, they're have a compulsive need to expand until they collapse into unprofitability.

Re:Always play nice... (1)

Dan Ost (415913) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416707)

How much did Microsoft spend on that big dividend a while back?

The Spooks (2, Informative)

zenetik (750376) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416092)

Perhaps Microsoft will join forces with AT&T and the NSA and turn its efforts toward data mining.

Re:The Spooks (0, Offtopic)

Cheapy (809643) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416206)

For all we know, one of Microsoft's "Security Patches" could also been the NSA's security patch too.

Re:The Spooks (1)

Kamineko (851857) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416431)

NSA + AT&T = NSAT&T

MSN + NSA + AT&T = MSNSAT&T?

IBM + MSN + NSA + AT&T = IBMSNSAT&T?

FBI + IBM + MSN + NSA + AT&T = FBIBMSNSAT&T?

The only one I can *F one I can think of is IMF. :/

Re:The Spooks (2, Funny)

dhasenan (758719) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416926)

There's always the FBIMSNSAT&TSA. And what about the FBIMSNSAT&TSATF? Now we can get the FBIMSNSAT&TSATFBIMSNSAT&TSA if we want....

Re:The Spooks (1)

Kamineko (851857) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417699)

Woah... the TSA from The Journeyman Project? Now that's goin' back a bit, eh? :)

Gage is way too swave to be getting involved in any of this madness anyways...

Re:The Spooks (1)

sbrown123 (229895) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416472)

You forgot to mention Verizon and Bell South. Hell, according to Bell South only a couple of their customers care what they do with their personal information or who listens to their phone conversations as long as Bush can remain president. So that makes it A-OK, and thus legal, for them to do whatever.

Re:The Spooks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416630)

Microsoft has already been helping the FBI/NSA with the second IE history file you used to be able to find outside the normal filesystem--- google for it on windows 98, there was a bug that allowed you to access this file. grab an old box and confirm it for yourself like I did.

Which side? (2, Insightful)

ItsIllak (95786) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416095)

How about allying with someone who's also got something virtual to deliver? Obviously MS could easily just ally with another one of it's arms - for mob appeal they could buy up Flikr, MySpace or YouTube? That gives them their own content - hence a reason to come along, something new and interesting to search... And before you say it, yes there's a lot of dross in those sites, but there are also hidden gems...

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGuBx6Xj-PE [youtube.com]

Re:Which side? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416122)

Seeing as how both Flickr and MySpace were semi-recently acquired by other huge companies, that leaves only YouTube. I guarantee that if MS bought YouTube, they'd have this brilliant idea and start charging people to put their content up there. If there's one thing that MS repeatedly shows that it doesn't understand, it's how other companies come out of nowhere and become successful at doing what they do.

Re:Which side? (2, Interesting)

Kenshin (43036) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416212)

Well, Rupert Murdoch recently bought MySpace, and he owns Fox News, so if they really wanna ally with the dark side (and LCD) he's right there in front of them.

Re:Which side? (2, Interesting)

ImTheDarkcyde (759406) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416316)

well if you got ot live.com one of the default things is fox sports. Fox was also mentioned during his keynote not too long ago. so i'd say they've already got a relationship going, and are just waiting to kick it up a notch.

Re:Which side? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416698)

If you call losing money hand-over-foot with no plan for getting in the black "successful," then yes, youtube has come out of nowhere and become successful at what they do.

Re:Which side? (1)

Poromenos1 (830658) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416124)

Dross indeed.

Re:Which side? (2, Interesting)

elwin_windleaf (643442) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416301)

Microsoft and Rupert Murdoch (MySpace.com)... I'm starting to see the wisdom in the earlier post about the dark side. Perhaps the forces of darkness will band together to fight?

They are all running scared (2, Interesting)

IntelliAdmin (941633) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416098)

You can tell that things are really up in the air when long time enemies start making alliances - your enemies enemy is your friend. I say it great to watch them spend billions and squirm around.

Admin tools for Windows [intelliadmin.com]

Domain Squatters (2, Funny)

Professor_UNIX (867045) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416099)

Seriously. Microsoft needs to join with domain squatters. Microsoft could totally dominate the domain squatter portal market by integrating their Live search engine into the domain squatters' Yahoo-like categorized site listings and offers to sell you the domain for $X,XXX.

Re:Domain Squatters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416333)

Funny, sort of, but Google does already to a degree, no? Do you see any squatted domains without Google ads?

Core values. (3, Insightful)

geoff lane (93738) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416100)

Wouldn't it make sense for MS to pay more attention to its core products before it goes hunting? There is not a lot of point in catching a big beast when the log cabin is burning down.

AOL! (4, Funny)

9mm Censor (705379) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416104)

I know I would definately BUY vista, if I got like a free trail for AOL. I have been hankering to try that out but cant find those CDs anywhere.

Re:AOL! (1)

zidohl (976382) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416116)

Teaming up with AOL probably wouldn't be a bad idea if Microsoft was only trying to reach the american market... I doubt Microsoft will join any of them though, just try to get people to use MSN instead..

Re:AOL! (1)

no_barcode (840948) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416299)

I can burn you a copy.

Re:AOL! (1)

jsprat (442568) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416474)

I'll send one too - if I can clean all the coffee rings from the coaster^H^H^H^H^H^Hd!

Re:AOL! (1)

Korgan (101803) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416899)

Too late. Google already spent several billion dollars to ensure that wouldn't happen. No online partnership available to MS there.

Given Google only bought a small fraction of AOL, MS might still be able to buy a larger fraction to get the deal, but I doubt TimeWarner shareholders would like to see even more of their AOL ownership diluted. Especially after the fuss that was kicked up last time.

Portal wars? (1)

vertinox (846076) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416121)

I dunno who to root for.

It is like an episode of Borg [wikipedia.org] vs Species 8472 [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Portal wars? (1)

cp.tar (871488) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416251)

One of the best similes I've seen here.

Which reminds me, I have an exam in Semantics on Tuesday, I should study a bit... <gets offline>

Microsoft doesn't partner with folks it assimilate (4, Interesting)

mwfolsom (234049) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416127)

Folks:

Anybody that partners with Microsoft is nuts -

Who has ever done it and lived to tell the tale?

M-

Re:Microsoft doesn't partner with folks it assimil (2, Insightful)

coop535 (813230) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416201)

For starters (and off the top of my head): Intel, IBM, Apple, Sun, Nvidia, Dell. I would include SCO, but they're touch and go.

Re:Microsoft doesn't partner with folks it assimil (1)

molarmass192 (608071) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417392)

He should have asked what pure *software/services* play has ever blah blah. Intel == hardware, IBM == consulting, Apple == hardware, Sun == hardware, Nvidia == hardware, Dell == hardware. MS has repeatedly said they're not interested in hardware, margins are too small for them. There's a long list of dead software companies who crawled into bed with the beast. The next casualty will be Symantec, and possibly McAfee. The sole successful one I can think of is Intuit, but I'd wager that eventually, their bell will toll as well.

Re:Microsoft doesn't partner with folks it assimil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416208)

IBM, Intel, NBC, ...

Re:Microsoft doesn't partner with folks it assimil (1)

cnettel (836611) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416273)

Intel?

Re:Microsoft doesn't partner with folks it assimil (1)

TeleoMan (529859) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417473)

Who has ever done it and lived to tell the tale?

The Borg.

Not trolling (4, Insightful)

Mostly a lurker (634878) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416144)

I think this is where Microsoft's prior behaviour comes back to haunt them. When Microsoft partners with anyone, it is (from their viewpoint) a short term marriage of convenience to be discarded the moment they think they can make a buck by shafting their "partner". If I had a valuable Internet property, the last thing I would consider is letting Microsoft get its fingers on it. You may think you have good lawyers, but Microsoft has played the game too long.

Been there, done that (5, Insightful)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416145)

Doesn't anyonre remember the last portal wars?

They were won by a company that didn't provide a portal, just a simple search service that let people find what they want.

People don't want a "portal"... they just want to find what they are looking for quickly.

Re:Been there, done that (1)

no_pets (881013) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416181)

You've obviously never met my mom and all of her "online friends". There is a large (and probably growing) number of people that can barely use a computer and for them portals are important/everything.

Re:Been there, done that (1)

sunwolf (853208) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416370)

Who's to say portals can't let people find what they are looking for quickly?

Re:Been there, done that (1)

DavidD_CA (750156) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416575)

I think people want both. My homepage is set to my.yahoo.com so that I can immediately log in and get the RSS feeds and other modules that I've set up. I tried Google's and MSN's and frankly they sucked in comparision.

When I search, I always use Google, but Yahoo has the portal down.

Re:Been there, done that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15417252)

I have the exact setup for the exact reason. Yahoo has the best setup for RSS Feeds. I use Yahoo for RSS Feeds from /. and Fox News I use Google for searches and mapping.

IAC of course; they already are partnered. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416180)

Little dirty secret is Microsoft is a large share holder of InterActive Corp (IAC)

IAC owns www.ask.com .. match.com.. lendingtree.com .. home shopping network ...

What's your address (1)

xaoslaad (590527) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416184)

Last count, I had 73. I'll send you a copy of one. :-P

1999 Called. They Want Their Headline Back (1)

Nova Express (100383) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416189)

Really, weren't portals all the rage during Internet Book 1.0? Why again now? Anyone can put up a portal.

Re:1999 Called. They Want Their Headline Back (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15417363)

Mod Parent up a couple of points. The post title is funny.

They don't need a partner. (1)

DarkBlackFox (643814) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416217)

When it comes to a web portal, Microsoft doesn't need anyone but themselves. They control some 90ish percent of the O/S market, and the default homepage for the default browser is MSN.com. Considering the quantity of internet users who are less than tech-savvy, many just stick with the default settings (or are afraid/don't know how to change them).

Re:They don't need a partner. (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416253)

What's amazing is how many people use MSN search for one thing--it's quicker to use it to MSN for google than to type in "google.com" for these peopel.

Re:They don't need a partner. (1)

moochfish (822730) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417224)

I'm pretty sure that smug mentality is what let google steal the majority of internet searches from them in the first place.

It may seem unlikely... (2, Funny)

minitual (966089) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416218)

but Apple/Microsoft would dominate the market!

the should ally with North Korea and Iran (1)

sentientbrendan (316150) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416220)

to form an axis of evil... software.

NSA and RIAA of course ! (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416229)

And next step will be forced labor camps, where MS software is used to monitor the inmates.

Re:NSA and RIAA of course ! (1)

d2_m_viant (811261) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416836)

Good, at least then we'll have a chance to escape.

with Apple :)) (1)

jackjeff (955699) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416236)

at least we know for sure they homepage would not be overloaded with activex, and proprietary crappy HTML code... since they dropped IE on Mac.

no seriously. Who cares about these homepage stuff anyway? The first thing I do is put google, whatever portal was there before... (and the day they piss me off, i'll have no problem putting something else as my first page..;)

i know i know.. a lot of people must care about it, or there would not be such a war. But I will never understand advertising nor marketing I guess. :P

Missing the point... (2, Insightful)

kkiller (945601) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416238)

I remember portals in the late 90s, and the fuss and bother firms made over what was meant to be the cash-cow of the future. Much was made about Netscape's Netcenter site, which is still operating [netscape.com] , tho' I suspect with far fewer visitors.

What I want to know is... who uses these damn sites? If portals are so important as a source of revenue, then why did Google - who's original site was stripped of the over-complicated design which marked sites like Yahoo!, MSN and excite - become a dominant market player? Could it be - shock - users don't want to see everything piled into one place and are intelligent enough to get services from different websites? eBay for auctions, BBC/CNN/whoever for news, Google for their search. I certainly never liked those kind of sites and I never heard anyone else who did - except of course, the corporations which ran them.

MS (1)

certel (849946) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416242)

Bring on AOL! :)

Dell seems to a agreement with MSN too. (1)

Utopia (149375) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416247)

When I got my machine my homepage was Dell MSN Page [msn.com]




Re:Dell seems to a agreement with MSN too. (0, Offtopic)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416313)

hmm... when I got my Dell my homepage was a Gentoo live cd :-)

I never used the copy of windows this came with but I did use the license key to a fresh install.

Using the pre-installed windows from Dell is just stupid. It's loaded down with trialware, adware, spyware, annoyanceware and a few others I dare not mention. The only sane thing to do is scratch it and start over.

Tom

Re:Dell seems to a agreement with MSN too. (1)

AlexDV (759799) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416378)

Dell had an agreement with MSN, maybe. Now they're partnering with Google for their branded portal page: http://www.google.com/ig/dell [google.com]

One more reason for MS to feel very uncomfortable right now.

I think they can do it alone. (1)

elgee (308600) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416257)

MS has the resources to do it alone, but the real problem is coming up with a gimmick that will capture the web community. That is becoming more and more difficult.

Re:I think they can do it alone. (1)

EraserMouseMan (847479) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417840)

I'm just curious to know what you'd day are the current gimmicks that MS uses?

Ummm (1)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416264)

Maybe eBay? [slashdot.org]

Am I the only one... (3, Insightful)

DarthChris (960471) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416265)

...who doesn't actually care?

As long as there is good competition, and I can get decent products/services because of it, I honestly don't care. I am sure plenty of you will disagree, but that's just my take on it.

What if there was a Portal War (1)

Murphy Murph (833008) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416270)

and nobody came?

they won't have to bother (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15416285)

Once they finalise bribing their way into universal treacherous computing in the hardware and software market from legislation and 99.999% of the ISPs go along with it.(I am being US centric here of course) when only "approved" hardware and code is allowed on the internet due to "security" and "think of the children" and "must protect valuable entertainment IP" concerns.

What's the point? (1)

ukdmbfan (904348) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416309)

Even if the poster didn't know about the other M$/eBay article, why would they even post this? Was it just to advertise the crap article that it's linked to, or to generate more flaming comments about M$? Can I get linked to if I submit "As we move into an increasingly digital world, what's next"?

M$ No 1 ally..... (1)

parseexception (516727) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416524)

The Justice Department

Ally? Buy!! (1)

kryzx (178628) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416625)

Why ally when you can buy? Maybe they'll just buy up, say, EBay [slashdot.org] , or something.

IBM or Lenovo (1)

Quiberon (633716) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416696)

IBM or Lenovo, of course !

I have just one question (1)

kimvette (919543) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416812)

What exactly is wrong with the MSN site as it stands right now? Yahoo's site is ugly and gimmicky, Google's is VERY clean because their primary function is a search engine, and to get to the "portal" pages you need to drill down to a secondary page. It works for Google's model.

The MSN site is a great balance between the mess that Yahoo's main page is, and the spartan look of Google. It's clean, professional looking, laid out logically, and there is good content there, and it's the default home page on most new PCs. Microsoft shouldn't screw around with a good thing.

Re:I have just one question (1)

JustNiz (692889) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416832)

>> What exactly is wrong with the MSN site as it stands right now?

The same thing thats wrong with all Microsoft products... its full of redundant bloat that no-one wants. Thats why google is so popular.
 

Portal war? (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416841)

More like, portal siege on the king of the mountain.

I doubt google is going to fire back and it's possible they could win just because they keep doing what they're doing. Between Google and Yahoo!, I'd trust preinstalled Google software over Yahoo!. I just logged out of both Yahoo! and Google Talk. Guess which client popped up an ad on log in?

Weird Al! (1)

Banner (17158) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416872)

I mean the software won't change at all, but at least we'll all be laughing too hard to notice!

Who gets the immunity challenge? (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 8 years ago | (#15416934)

This summary reads like a bad fox reality show.

Please. (1)

kahrytan (913147) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417210)

Will someone please think about Amazon.com?

Amazon.com is shopping hub for millions of people.
Amazon.com has a auction site. Though, they dont push it a much as they should.
Amazon.com has a payment gateway.
Amazon.com owns Alexa.

What the......? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15417279)

How stupid are people? Don't they know that changing a portal takes about as much effort as changing a TV channel? So Dell preloads Brand X. Who cares? What's the big effen deal?

By the way, what portal do Apples come preloaded with?

Vista rollout (1)

Wiseleo (15092) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417460)

Microsoft will set users to msn.com by default.

If they are capable of competing with the usual suspects, users will have no reason to switch. I anticipate A9-like tactics.

But wait... (1)

x-guru (653854) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417490)

Has noone noticed that just a couple of articles below we see that Microsoft is going to acquire [slashdot.org] Ebay?

That means they will effectively acquire Ebay's partnership agreement with Yahoo as well.

--x

Second Life (1)

FST777 (913657) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417637)

Time to buy it Bill! To make a portal from it's base shouldn't be to much of a hassle...

Microsoft should ally themselves with HP (1)

I'm Don Giovanni (598558) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417794)

Microsoft should do with HP what Google did with Dell.
That is, Microsoft pays HP to make all HP computers installed with Microsoft webware (including desktop related webware). It wouldn't be abusing any monopoly since it wouldn't be using Windows itself to bundle anything (that's not already being bundled). It would merely be Microsoft paying an OEM to get special treatment just like Google did.

I mention HP because HP is bypassing Dell. Currently HP uses hp.netscape.com has the homepage that its computers come configured with, but that's easily changed. So Microsoft and HP create hp.live.com as HP's home page, bundle Microsoft's Desktop Search (which is better than Google's anyway), etc. (Of course, Vista will have desktop search built-in, which may render desktop search competition moot.)

Microsoft should join forces with (1)

Orion Blastar (457579) | more than 8 years ago | (#15417887)

eBay and Yahoo, or buy them out. Yahoo already has a good partnership with SBC/AT&T with DSL and Web Portals, and eBay has Paypal and Half.com as well as the main eBay auction site. Yahoo Mail can be merged with Hotmail, Yahoo Groups can be merged with MSN Groups, Yahoo search can be merged with MSN search. If Microsoft does not ally or buy them out, they will end up being enemies later on at the rate they are growing to any portal that Microsoft tries to make.

Then Microsoft can ally up with SBC/AT&T for the ISP service, yet imagine what would happen if Microsoft bought SBC/AT&T?
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