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Techie Fight Clubs Springing Up

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the unleashing-geek-fury dept.

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Browncoat writes "USAToday reports a new phenomenon hitting some of the cubicles of Silicon Valley. It seems that engineers and developers previously confined to sitting in front of their computers are getting their anger out the healthy way: by pummeling each other. From the article 'Inspired by the 1999 film Fight Club, starring Brad Pitt and Ed Norton, underground bare-knuckle brawling clubs have sprung up across the country as a way for desk jockeys and disgruntled youths to vent their frustrations and prove themselves. "This is as close as you can get to a real fight, even though I've never been in one," the soft-spoken Siou said.'"

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Weenie Club (5, Insightful)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431849)

Weird, I don't remember Fight Club being about a bunch of dorks in headgear smacking each other with sticks until one of them got a bloody nose while spouting poorly-paraphrased movie quotes at some bored reporter.

Aside from which, I loved how they worked in this:

Earlier this month in Arlington, Texas, a high school student who didn't want to participate was beaten so badly that he suffered a brain hemorrhage and broken vertebrae. Six teenagers were arrested after DVDs of the fight appeared for sale online.

So exactly when did "getting your ass kicked by a bunch of jerks" turn into being "an unwilling Fight Club participant"? I suppose next we'll be hearing about how Ken Lay and company were actually just repeating what they learned by watching "Wall Street" at the executive team-building offsite? Or how the well-abused Zonk and ScuttleMonkey voodoo dolls on my desk are actually just a result of my having seen part of "The Craft" one time on HBO?

Re:Weenie Club (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431861)

I suppose next we'll be hearing about how Ken Lay and company were actually just repeating what they learned by watching "Wall Street" at the executive team-building offsite? Or how the well-abused Zonk and ScuttleMonkey voodoo dolls on my desk are actually just a result of my having seen part of "The Craft" one time on HBO?
Ok admit it, the last one is true.

Repetition Club (0, Offtopic)

LunaticTippy (872397) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431874)

I am sick to death of Fight Club. People talking about it, quoting it, watching it over and over.

Now, I can simply point this practice out, and state without room for dissent that it is finally and completely over.

It's sad, too, because if people would give it a rest I actually liked the book and the movie.

Re:Repetition Club (5, Insightful)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431972)

It's sad, too, because if people would give it a rest I actually liked the book and the movie.
You know, you are allowed to like them despite a load of other people being dicks about it. Kind of like the internet.

No weapons! (4, Insightful)

khasim (1285) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431877)

From TFA:
Kicking, punching and swinging every household object imaginable -- from frying pans and tennis rackets to pillowcases stuffed with soda cans -- they beat each other mercilessly in a garage in this bedroom community south of San Francisco.
What the fuck?

Hitting someone with a frying pan? What fool would take that?

Using your fists on someone ... that I can see. The damage level is low (unless you're trained) and you get really tired really quickly.

But using a blunt object? If you're anything other than a spaz, you'll crush a few ribs the first time you connect. Then the fights over.

Re:No weapons! (5, Informative)

mepex (687816) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431920)

Using your fists on someone ... that I can see. The damage level is low (unless you're trained) and you get really tired really quickly.
Being married to a health care professional and hearing the stories of the ER, I know (secondhand) how wrong this is. Broken orbital bones happen all the time. Broken hands can take years to heal, and hurt like hell (just ask Fernando Vargas). The one picture in TFA shows a guy trying to knee another guy in the head. You get lucky and land flush, you're talking brain bleed, easily fatal. Actually, in my limited time of martial arts sparring when I was young, I noticed that it was the novices and not the experts that seemed to hurt and get hurt more often than the experts. But this was sparring for points, not for damage.

Re:No weapons! (4, Informative)

vux984 (928602) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431979)

Actually, in my limited time of martial arts sparring when I was young, I noticed that it was the novices and not the experts that seemed to hurt and get hurt more often than the experts. But this was sparring for points, not for damage.

The experts know how to both hit and be hit (and are better at avoiding the hits); they take a lot less damage than novices, and unless they INTEND to deal damage, they deal less damage too.

On the flip side an expert INTENDING to deal damage will deal it a lot more effectively than a novice.

The same is generally true in most sports.

Re:No weapons! (1)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431988)

The one picture in TFA shows a guy trying to knee another guy in the head. You get lucky and land flush, you're talking brain bleed, easily fatal.
Get your priorities straight first. I mean, come one, he's confused underwear boxer shorts with real sports boxer sports. Gold!

I'd say that picture was staged. (3, Insightful)

khasim (1285) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431999)

Look at the position of the leg with regards to the arm.

If it was a straight in kick, his leg would be tangled up with his opponent's hand.

If it was a side kick, his leg would be connecting with his opponent's shoulder. Look how his kicking foot is outside of both their bodies.

Re:No weapons! (4, Insightful)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431976)

Hitting someone with a frying pan? What fool would take that?


The same fool, I suppose, that would say "I'm bored, let's find some other techies and start beating the crap out of each other."

Or, I suppose, that would watch the fictional account of a character that went completely and destructively insane (but who may have, at the end of the story, "saved" himself by shooting himself in the head) and say "hey, let's imitate that."

Fight Club is a good movie. Imitating because your life is boring is, well, a sign that you need serious help.

Re:No weapons! (1)

Emetophobe (878584) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431998)

Ya, these guys aren't too high on the intelligence scale. I think they're more of the backyard wrestling crowd that you hear about in the news all the time when some guy breaks a neck. I mean, a frying pan? Are they trying to knock each other out? (that head gear offers minimal protection).

Slap me and call me Shirley (0, Troll)

Bill_Royle (639563) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431953)

Fight Club's message hinged around a somewhat homoerotic S&M theme.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Re:Weenie Club (2, Insightful)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431975)

So exactly when did "getting your ass kicked by a bunch of jerks" turn into being "an unwilling Fight Club participant"?

IIRC there was a rule in FC that said "if this is your first night, you have to fight"...

Re:Weenie Club (1)

ptbarnett (159784) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432097)

So exactly when did "getting your ass kicked by a bunch of jerks" turn into being "an unwilling Fight Club participant"?

There was apparently plenty of willing participants in this particular instance (or at least "unwilling to press charges"). The video in question portrayed a number of "consensual" fights. It came into public view when an unwilling participant was seriously injured.

I'm sorry, but... (5, Funny)

Kagura (843695) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431853)

Doesn't this article violate the first and second rules of fight club?

Re:I'm sorry, but... (5, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431909)

> Doesn't this article violate the first and second rules of fight club?

It's geek fight club. There is no second rule; only a zeroth, first, and tenth rule.

Rule #0: You start counting from zero.
Rule #1: Do not talk about geek fight club.
Rule #10: Do not talk about geek fight club.
Rule #11: Only two bits to the rules.

Re:I'm sorry, but... (1)

Irish_Samurai (224931) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432014)

I may be mistaken, but I thought there was no "Ten" in binary. I thought it was one zero. As I understood it, ten was a product of a base 10 system.

Re:I'm sorry, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15432106)

As I understood it, ten was a product of a base 10 system.

Ten is a product of a base two system? No... I'm not following.

Re:I'm sorry, but... (5, Funny)

Pollardito (781263) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432070)

i suppose you've already answered my follow-up question :

"what kind of two-bit fight club is this?"

Re:I'm sorry, but... (2, Informative)

FhnuZoag (875558) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431921)

I guess we'll have to cut off Scuttlemonkey's testicles, then.

Re:I'm sorry, but... (1)

mnemonic_ (164550) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432078)

This is true.

Re:I'm sorry, but... (1)

Henry Bone (691064) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431923)

It does indeed. I was actually expecting a comment of that ilk to be first post.

Re:I'm sorry, but... (1)

mctk (840035) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431931)

Not unless you read it out loud.

There's no need for RL violence (5, Insightful)

UmberGryphon (937359) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431858)

The teams I've been on have always handled stress by Quake/Unreal Tournament/etc. deathmatching. What's the appeal of brawling? Same thrill of victory, longer-lasting agony of defeat.

Re:There's no need for RL violence (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431904)

If you think you can get the same experience from a video game as real life, you need to get out in the big blue room a bit more. Quake, UT, etc. is nothing compared to even a low key sparring match - much less the brawls they're talking about here. It's like apples and lima beans.

Re:There's no need for RL violence (1)

bluelip (123578) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432057)

The teams I've been on have always handled stress by Quake/Unreal Tournament/etc. deathmatching. What's the appeal of brawling? Same thrill of victory, longer-lasting agony of defeat.

That's probably because the only teams you have been on have been for "Quake/Unreal Tournament/etc". Life in the 'big blue room' still trumps gaming.

I would suggest you try associating w/ others besides through a system where the limits are quite bounding.

Over being able to say, "Hey, I can push this platic buttons faster than you!", I'll take the ability to kick your ass anyday.

Stop hiding behind that mouse and keyboard and come try it. You'll see what the thrill of victory is all about. Very little beats and andrenaline rush. Such a rush can be had by knowing that if you aren't the best around and that if you don't win the match, pain is about to be felt.

Re:There's no need for RL violence (3, Insightful)

Irish_Samurai (224931) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432060)

While i will admit that a good multiplayer fragfest will vent some frustrations, there is nothing better than a good sparring match. You don't even have to get to heavy with it, some basic response and counter work is really exhilerating - especially between two equally skilled people who respect each other and are open to practicing variants.

These guys sound like dickless morons who watch way too much UFC. The guy in the photo looks like an idiot using those Kali sticks. When using them you don't get within knee strike range, and you definitely dont try to graple in the manner he is.

In my opinion these guys need to go to a real dojo, roll with some real experts, and learn that combat for the purpose of ego masturbation is fucking pointless.

well now (3, Funny)

spune (715782) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431859)

No one saw this coming. No one.

The Third Rule of Fight Club (2)

seanmeister (156224) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431866)

DO NOT post stories about Fight Club to Slashdot.

Re:The Third Rule of Fight Club (2, Informative)

Dante Shamest (813622) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432008)

Actually there's kind of an ambiguity of what the 3rd rule is. The original 3rd rule was:
 
  If someone says stop, goes limp, even if he's just faking it, the fight is over.

But later on it was dropped, and this was the new third rule
 
  Only two guys to a fight.

Wikipedia talks about it too [wikipedia.org]

.

Uh oh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431867)

So is Cowboyneil Slashdot's equivelent to the charicter Meat Loaf plays in the movie?

Check it out on diggnation (1)

thelost (808451) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431868)

Check out this [revision3.com] episode of diggnation and you can catch a bunch of guys really going for it. very amusing, they look like absolute idiots... do I want a go? Hell yes!

Bring on that printer

*sticks on "still" by the geto boys*

Unsupport claims (5, Insightful)

remembertomorrow (959064) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431869)

Men involved in fight clubs often carry bottled-up violent impulses learned in childhood from video games, cartoons and movies, said Michael Messner, a University of Southern California sociology and gender studies professor.

Is this fact, or just poor reporting?

Re:Unsupport claims (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431885)

>Men involved in fight clubs often carry bottled-up violent impulses learned in childhood from video games, cartoons and movies, said Michael Messner, a University of Southern California sociology and gender studies professor.

Is this fact, or just poor reporting?


It's neither. It would appear to be the opinion of the person quoted.

Re:Unsupport claims (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431886)

Clearly violence didn't exist before video games, cartoons, and movies.

Re:Unsupport claims (-1)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431899)

That's "true", so long as by "true" you mean "unsubstantiated" and "illogical" and "but a good soundbyte".

And let me say that, frankly, it pisses me off to see some goddamn motherfucking PENCILNECK professor from some goddamn pissant UC school whining with his LITTLE BITCH MOUTH about how men in my generation at TOO GODDAMN VIOLENT AND CAN'T CONTROL OUR FUCKING TEMPER! AAAAAAAHH!!! AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHH!

Seriously.

Re:Unsupport claims (4, Insightful)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431914)

It is probably a fact that "Michael Messner, a University of Southern California sociology and gender studies professor".

It is poor (though typical) reporting that these types of claims are reported simply as "so-and-so says", but it saves journalist from having to have any knowledge of or do any research in the field they are covering, they can simply find the nearest person with a degree or job in a superficially relevant field, and get a quote, and go home for the day. If they are particularly ambitious, they'll get two conflicting quotes from different experts, to show "balance".

Re:Unsupport claims (4, Interesting)

feyhunde (700477) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431958)

Poor reporting treats it as a fact.

There was violence before TV and Games and Movies.

There were farm boys who grew up in peaceful farms that never heard a shot fired in anger or had a punch thrown whom grew up to be Soldiers. There were gun deaths that had nothing to do with Grand Theft Auto.

The reporter (or more likely editor) is a PC fool whom doesn't realize the simple basic truth. Violent Video games save us from wayyyyyy more random acts of violence then they do encourage them. Anyone whose actually played the things in a bad mood knows what I'm talking about. The simulation is a cathartic. The bad date or club cockteases have made plenty a man hate women, if only for a bit. Killing a whore in GTA lets you get the release and satisfaction without actually hurting a human being.

I guess too many of these folks are naive and really believe everything is sunshine and lollypops and don't understand the dark sides we all have. The side that comes out when we get cut off in traffic, the side that wants to slap everyone with a stupid answer. The part of us deep down that wants to be a Viking and Rape, Pillage and Burn. Or they might know they have such a side, but their own morality is such that they can not admit such a side exists.

Re:Unsupport claims (4, Funny)

houghi (78078) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432056)

The suicide terrorists stole their idea from the roadrunner cartoons. How else can you explain that sombody uses that much explosives on himself to hurt the other person.

Re:Unsupport claims (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431959)

Funny, I didn't need video games to teach me how to be violent. I learned my violent childhood impulses from the bullies that used to beat the crap out of me.

Re:Unsupport claims (1)

emjoi_gently (812227) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432006)

"cartoons"
Well I've always had an urge to drop an anvil on someones head.

Re:Unsupport claims (1)

DreamingReal (216288) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432015)

Strange, I always thought my violent impulses came from my bosses making ridiculous demands while constantly criticizing my performance, my company overworking me while cutting my hours to make sure our stock price doesn't drop 10 cents, my customers treating me like dirt because I have to quote prices they consider outrageous to fix the computers their little demons fucked up by downloading free music, and my SO bitching that I work too much but then complaining when I can't afford to take her out for dinner every third night.

... anyone know if there are Geek Fight Clubs in Chicago??

Psh, that's nothing (3, Funny)

ConfusedGuy (791335) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431871)

This doesn't worry me much... yet. I mean, transgressional fiction was bound to come true at some point. People tend to break out of the cube. What worries me is that this might be a trend in fiction influencing reality. If Patrick Batemans start cropping up all over the place then we have a problem.

Re:Psh, that's nothing (1)

Time Doctor (79352) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431991)

Try getting a reservation at Fry's now!

The first thing about dork club... (2, Funny)

reklusband (862215) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431872)

The problem with this is that these things is that these guys don't know how to fight and as such could really get hurt. And the thing is, if you accidentally kill someone in an illegal fighting event, it is still manslaughter. Course, a few dead dorks might mean that new positions open up in the fields they're in. HEY!!! That's a great idea. I need a job, I could get it Klingon battlecruiser style.

Re:The first thing about dork club... (1)

psychobyte (978049) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432077)

Actually, these guys are associated with "The Dog Brothers". It's a bunch of martial artists that fight each other to test each other. They do know what they are doing. This article is a little misleading. The dog brothers aren't all geeks. They are a pretty diverse crowd of people. teachers, programmers, engineers, trashmen, you name it. They just all like to test themselves physically. This clip says it all.... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2114276097 064116625 [google.com]

slashfark (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431880)

farkslash

Re:slashfark (1)

poopie (35416) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431943)

Article summary should read: 'What happens when you coworker steals your red swingline stapler? ...It's soap making time!"

Tag should be: 'dumbass'

I hate people (5, Funny)

bigtangringo (800328) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431881)

Men involved in fight clubs often carry bottled-up violent impulses learned in childhood from video games, cartoons and movies, said Michael Messner, a University of Southern California sociology and gender studies professor.

Dear Michael Messner,

Please accept this large steaming cup of shut the hell up.

Sincerely,

BigTanGringo

Re:I hate people (1)

Emetophobe (878584) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432064)

Amen. I play mainly violent video games and I am totally against violence of any form (in real life), whether it be against a human or animal. I've been playing first person shooters since the original wolfenstein and doom. I played the original GTA 1 & 2, and I own GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas on my PS2 aswell as the PC version of GTA: San Andreas. It pisses me off when people blame violence on violent games. When did people stop becoming responsible for their own actions?

Whatever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431882)

Men involved in fight clubs often carry bottled-up violent impulses learned in childhood from video games, cartoons and movies, said Michael Messner, a University of Southern California sociology and gender studies professor.

"Boys have these warrior fantasies picked up from popular culture, and schools sort of force that out of them," he said. In these fantasies, "The good guys always resort to violence, and they always get the glory and the women."

Hmmm. Well I sit at a desk most of the day and play(ed) my fair share of violent video games. Yet I don't feel the need the fight another person to make myself feel better or get laid. The results of my hobbies, working on old cars, old motorcycles and playing in a band get me enough glory and sex.

Rubber gloves...? (4, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431890)

Ummm, Roger Tinkoff -- you might want to wear rubber gloves befor wiping up some random weirdo's blood...

Anyway, my favorite part is the two professors eagerly spouting theories about "fight clubs" as though they'd ever heard of this before the USA Today reporter came calling.

No, my real favorite part is:

Five-year fight club veteran Dinesh Prasad, 32, a heavily tattooed Santa Clara engineer, said he once broke a rib in a match but never complained to his fellow combatants. He also recently skipped his first wedding anniversary to attend a fight rather than drive to Los Angeles, where his wife is finishing law school.
Fast forward to Marital Fight Club...

Re:Rubber gloves...? (2, Funny)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431912)

Fast forward to Marital Fight Club...

The guy wanted to find out what it would feel like to have his ass kicked. I suspect he's about it find out.

Re:Rubber gloves...? (1)

technoextreme (885694) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431937)

The guy wanted to find out what it would feel like to have his ass kicked. I suspect he's about it find out./blockquote. More like he was looking for the quickest way to get a divorce. Yeesh... I know I'm obsessvie but at least my activities are innocous like building robots.

why?!?!?!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431891)

why do my post's always statr out at Score: 0? !!!!?!? i make more posts than eveyone cumbined !!!

plz make me higher

Well, if you really want to fight, (2, Insightful)

i am kman (972584) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431893)

it's alot better to fight other nerds than get beat up in real life... At least that pocket protector will save you :)

They should try a moshing. At least you get to beat people to music.

Utopian Nostalgia (5, Insightful)

GeekLife.com (84577) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431902)

Men involved in fight clubs often carry bottled-up violent impulses learned in childhood from video games, cartoons and movies, said Michael Messner, a University of Southern California sociology and gender studies professor.

Hopefully we can someday return to the world where none of thoseexisted, and men never fought each other.

Re:Utopian Nostalgia (5, Funny)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432026)

Dude, he's a university professor! Don't try to lecture him on common sense! He knows sociology! One day you're just walking along the street, whistling some new Eminem song, and BAM!!, he descends from the rafters, slices your head off with a 200-page dissertation on the causal relationship between videogames and violence, and gets like 6000 boners all at once. And that's what I call Real Ultimate Power!

Shenanigans (2, Insightful)

poopie (35416) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431903)

Okay, I call shenanigans. This just sounds too ridiculous to be real.

How many times in the past have we see some tech story get reported on and posted on slashdot only to find out that it was all trumped up - like "toothing" - people in UK using bluetooth phones to look for sex partners? I say "nerd fight club" is the same thing.

Everyone knows that real dorks adverse to physical fitness - I mean, hey why go outside when you can spend more time in front of the computer? I'll exercise next week after I rebuild my second desktop system and finish upgrading my asterisk pbx...

Oh, and nerd *fighting*? Nerds are the last people who are going to want to blow off steam by real, painful, physical fighting... Everyone knows that. Nerds would invite others for a frag-fest, whomp on their mmorpg character, hack their coworker's/nemesis' home server, and fill their cubicle with styrofoam... but fight... and risk getting hurt?

If we liked to fight, we probably wouldn't have followed the path that made us nerds in the first place.

Re:Shenanigans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431933)

It's probably advertised as a geek fight club. The people who actually show up are those who want to beat the snot out of a geek, not the geeks themselves.

Re:Shenanigans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15432093)

did you not see the it's-a-joke "foot"... he's not in a fight club, he's a very naughty boy!

But (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431907)

There's nothing there about the winner getting the girl. Sounds kinda homoerotic to me in addition to sadomasochistic. Hey, whatever pops your cork.

Re:But (1)

jjohnson (62583) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431942)

The rule that the winner is the one sodomizing the loser is strictly optional, according to the article.

Steps to success in fight club (2, Interesting)

technoextreme (885694) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431924)

Step 1: Learn a martial art. See below. Step 2: Become a master Step 3: Step 3 depends on step one. See below. Akido-Laugh at people as they discover that their attacks are turned against them. Taekwondo- Laugh at people as you kick the living crap out of them. Wrestling- Laugh as you drop people on their head. Jui-Jitsu- Laugh as you break limbs. Judo- Laugh as you start throwing people over your hip. Kendo- Laugh as you teach those idiots in the article about how to use those sticks. In all seriousness, I've taken martial arts before and I think it's kind of pathetic. PS. Is this the first Slashdot article that actually mentions S&M .

Re:Steps to success in fight club (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431973)

check out the video, http://cbs5.com/watercooler/local_story_059005903. html [cbs5.com]

their fighting is pretty decent, but they'd still get owned by non-geek street fighters

Re:Steps to success in fight club (1)

frying_fish (804277) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431990)

Look more closely at the sticks in use in the picture. They look a lot more like Kali sticks to me than kendo sticks. Jiu Jitsu / Ju Jutsu / Ju Jitsu / (whichever spelling you prefer) will include all of the other styles of techniques. You think martial arts are pathetic or this example of people in a "fight club" is pathetic, as martial arts aren't pathetic they are a good way to keep fit, train your mind and perhaps provide a viable means of self defence in a street attack.

Meh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431927)

USAToday reports a new phenomenon hitting some of the cubicles of Silicon Valley. It seems that engineers and developers previously confined to sitting in front of their computers are getting their anger out the healthy way: by pummeling each other.

I am Slashdot's smirking indifference

Obligatory. (5, Funny)

mattpointblank (936343) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431929)

His name is Linus Torvalds.
His name is Linus Torvalds.

Re:Obligatory. (2)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432075)

s/Obligatory/Voluntary
s/Funny/Overrated

how inane (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431934)

What a fucking stupid and homoerotic way to relieve stress.

Consumerism (4, Insightful)

oSand (880494) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431941)

"You get to be a superhero for a night," Klimanis said. "We have to go to work every day. We're constantly told to buy things we don't need, and just for a couple hours we have the freedom to do what we want to do."

Yes, buy things like the Fight Club DVD, you sheep. Some people, if worried about excessive consumerism, would stop buying shit.

Men involved in fight clubs often carry bottled-up violent impulses learned in childhood from video games, cartoons and movies, said Michael Messner, a University of Southern California sociology and gender studies professor.

Videogames. Always videogames. I'm surprised he hasn't blamed myspace.

Mac vs. Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431946)

Imagine a fnatic from each side going at it. The clash of the ignorant! "Steve Jobs is a fagg!", Yells the MS guy. "Bill Gates is a wus!", yells the Mac guy. "I'm going delete your flowery ass", yells the MS guy. "Oh yeah, I'm dragging your bitch ass to the trash can PEE CEE BOY!"

this is your life (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431948)

Doesn't get any better than this...

I already see a lot of stupid comments about how they should just play halo or some other random DM game. Ever played lasertag and compared it to even skirmish? Some of you make me laugh.

If you're able to be satisfied by weak approximations of real life enough to judge on others seeking a thrill then you are probably the one that has it wrong.. not them.

"Jack Thompson vs. Steve Ballmer" (1)

theskipper (461997) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431949)

insert joke here

They can beat themselves to pulp all they want (1)

zr-rifle (677585) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431950)

... as long as nobody farts on my meringues. Thanks.

And will the Space Monkeys (1)

Watson Ladd (955755) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431954)

start crashing server farms instead.

"The freedom to do what we want to do" (4, Insightful)

MavEtJu (241979) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431957)

"You get to be a superhero for a night," Klimanis said. "We have to go to work every day. We're constantly told to buy things we don't need, and just for a couple hours we have the freedom to do what we want to do."

And that is beating each other up? Idiots...

"Superhero for a night" (4, Insightful)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432029)

Along the line of the parent:

"You get to be a superhero for a night," Klimanis said.

Superheros go out and fight wrongdoing in society.

Beating up (or being beaten up by) other geeks is not being "a superhero for a night".

Re:"The freedom to do what we want to do" (2, Insightful)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432053)

We're constantly told to buy things we don't need,
I'm trying to avoid pigeonholing these guys as impressionable fans trying to live out their Fight Club fantasy, but stuff like that is making it very difficult indeed.

why not just martial arts? (1)

dokebi (624663) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431962)

There are many MA clubs where sparring with or without protective gear is allowed. There are also mixed-martial arts clubs where you can learn and practice (sparr) strikes, throws, grapple, and do submissions just like you see on Spike TV, or Ultimate Fighting. Why not go join them where the skill levels are high (so you dont get killed by accident), and competition is stiff?

Re:why not just martial arts? (1)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432042)

Why not go join them where the skill levels are high (so you dont get killed by accident), and competition is stiff?
Because then you'll lose all your undergrounditude and all the groupies will delete your number from their cellphones.

The first rule of Fight Club (1)

tedgyz (515156) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431964)

for (int i = 0; i 10; i++) println("The " + i + " rule of fight club is, you don't talk about Fight Club");

(I know, I should use a static array of "first", "second", etc., but I left it out for brevity)

Until an eye gets poked out... (1)

packetmon (977047) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431970)

Strangely my brother in law and his coworkers have been doing this in NYC. They're not geeks though, they're all automechanics for Mercedes Benz. When I heard what they were doing I shrugged at their stupidity. There are more creative and energizing ways to vent frustrations, unload stress. What is going to happen when one co-worker goes overboard and really injures someone. By USA Today and other media outlets even giving these idiots the time of day, I can see where the younger crowds get the moronic ideas from. To each their own, but common sense dictactes that teens who see that article will likely take the "well if the adults can do it so can we...". What kind of example are those guys setting. As in the movie fight club, they shouldn't have talked about it. The least they could have done was some PPV "Geek Extreme Fighting... Microsoft Developers vs. Open Source Developers" ...

Rolled up magazine fight? (1)

Invader02 (963021) | more than 8 years ago | (#15431971)

CBS has videos of these guys fighting.... I mean look at this: http://cbs5.com/video/?id=11369@kpix.dayport.com [cbs5.com] Who fights with magazines??? The most dangerous thing these people use are plastic knives...

deja vu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431974)

Christ, I'd kick my own ass if I was wearing shorts like the guy in the picture.

wait... this sounds familiar...

As soon as it gets infiltrated by a bully... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431989)

...they're all history.

Good theme for a game, actually.

Fiction (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431995)

Are those the same people who defend brutal video games by claiming that young adults can tell fiction and reality apart? Seriously, that was a cool movie. A MOVIE!

Ahhh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15431996)

I see the new geeks on the block have now learnt what that word, F E T I S H, means.

So they like getting beating up.

On a serious note, having a good run/swim/workout at the gym does wonders for the body, but there are few things that release whatever that stuff in the brain is that makes you feel alive. The two easiest things to do are 1. Get laid, 2. Be in a punch up.

We can see what is happening here, there guys need get LAID!

PS. I feel like punching someone right now....

if elif fi (4, Funny)

packetmon (977047) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432010)

10 REM Nerd Fight Club
20 REM packetmon
30 FOR X=10 TO 1 STEP -1
40 PRINT X;"Oh yea";
50 IF X<>1 THEN PRINT "!";
60 PRINT "take that,";X;"jackass";
70 IF X<>1 THEN PRINT "!";
80 PRINT "give in!"
90 NEXT

If we were meant to do real damage to each other (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15432019)

...we wouldn't have invented larping. Seriously, if you want to experience your "warrior fantasies", punching someone until their or your rib breaks just isn't the constructive answer... Though, these people sound less pansy than some larpers I know...

Like Geeks haven't been doing this in SCA forever (1)

MerlynEmrys67 (583469) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432024)

Hmmm... Sounds like the "interesting" SCA fighting styles that were around LONG before I was in high school in the early 80's. Only difference is that it is santioned through a national organization and didn't need a relatively lame movie for people to imitate.

That said I was really interested in the SCA until I actually learned how to fence, then the SCA wasn't interesting at all... Oh well, maybe I should have tried heavy weapons after all

I was going to jump in and mention the SCA (1)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432082)

...but you beat me to it. A nice and fun way to get your crazies out without hurting anyone or getting hurt yourself.

And yeah, you shoulda done heavy. It's a freeking blast. Especially melee.

Kill move (1)

Lips (26363) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432027)

If they are true geeks, towards the end of the fight they would be wondering how to pull out the opponents still beating heart as part of their final kill combo.

there are better ways (1)

penguin-collective (932038) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432037)

We have "fight clubs": boxing, martial arts, football, rugby, and lots of other sports. But, I suppose, that requires more dedication and skill than these people can muster.

Who wrote this? (1)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432059)

I searched and searched and searched on the article for some way to contact the "journalist" who wrote this piece of garbage but was unable to find any contact info. Anybody have any luck? I'd love to Slashdot his mailbox with reasons why he needs to find another profession since he is disgracing this one.

Re:Who wrote this? answer (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432105)

According to my Seattle PI version of this story [nwsource.com] , Jordan Robertson wrote the story about techie fight clubs. It could be an assumed name, but you could always Google for his home address.

Haha. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15432089)

Monkey see, monkey do.

Mexico City? (1)

cniebla (158677) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432096)

Anybody up for a club in Mexico City? :) ***serius***

Summary of posts so far (1)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15432101)

I can summarise the comments so far with this time-honored phrase so beloved of grandmothers:
It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye!
I mean, what the fuck? I'm surprised you guys can even see over your belt buckles to type. Last I heard, boys will be boys and accidents will happen.
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