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Ubuntu 6.06 'Dapper Drake' Released

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the best-kind-of-drake dept.

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BBSeXoDuS writes "Ubuntu Dapper Drake has been finally been released. Run on over to the download site while it's still hot. From the announcement: 'Ubuntu 6.06 LTS introduces functionality that simplifies common Linux server deployment processes. For system administrators setting up large numbers of web, mail and related servers, Ubuntu 6.06 LTS offers the fastest and most consistent path to deployment, combined with the availability of global commercial support where needed.' "

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Oh, the humanity! (2, Funny)

minginqunt (225413) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443758)

It is... *sniffs delicately*... brown?

Re:Oh, the humanity! (3, Funny)

henriquemaia (733518) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443782)

Orange. And brown.

Re:Oh, the humanity! (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15443826)

Yeah... it's still pretty brown.
And sorta orange. But mostly brown.

Protip: Make your GRUB brown, too!
sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak
sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst


Change the "# Pretty colours" section to:

color white/brown white/red

and you, too can have a colorful GRUB that matches your OS.

Re:Oh, the humanity! (1)

exit3219 (946049) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443858)

Kubuntu is blue ;)

Re:Oh, the humanity! (4, Interesting)

Crizp (216129) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444036)

And I'm glad Ubuntu is orange and brown - a very welcome change from that oh-so-2000's blue.

Several others have started using it, I believe Terracotta will be to 2007 what blue was for 2000.

Been there done that! (3, Informative)

s31523 (926314) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443769)

OK, we got the post of "almost" released, and I was waiting for the "released" post!

Anyway, I moved to the 6.06 RC from Breezy 5.10 and it was smooth. My laptop is loving the new Network Manager and updated Xorg with Gnome 2.0. It is a very nice package. I think Ubuntu will be on the forefront of competitive alternative OS's to Windows, especially if Vista keeps slipping!

Re:Been there done that! (1)

Yuioup (452151) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443804)

I think so.

Vista opens a window of opportunity for Linux to finally make its way on to the Desktops of many disenchanted users. Ubuntu should be the first one to fly right through it!!

(The puns in the last paragraph were very much intended).

Y

Re:Been there done that! (1)

meh13579 (975202) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443845)

For some reason the thought of throwing a penguin through a window made me chuckle just a little bit.

Re:Been there done that! (1)

brother bloat (888898) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443882)

That's because you're insane...

Re:Been there done that! (1)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443894)

For some reason the thought of throwing a penguin through a window made me chuckle just a little bit.

Especially if you visualise it copping a chair flying the other way...

Re:Been there done that! (1)

pedalman (958492) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443998)

For some reason the thought of throwing a penguin through a window made me chuckle just a little bit.
This is good entertainment, too: http://n.ethz.ch/student/mkos/pinguin.swf [n.ethz.ch]

Re:Been there done that! (4, Insightful)

s31523 (926314) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443979)

Disenchanted and those who do not want to shell out hundreds of dollars for a crappy OS. For work I needed to by a copy of XP Pro because of a compiler and other tools that were old and wouldn't run under Linux (using Crossover/Wine). I shuttered when I paid $78 for XP Pro and kept saying "it's a tax deduction" to justify it.
For most people however, using their email and word processing, photo software, digital cameras, multimedia CD/DVD burning is all they need an Ubuntu works. There is a lot of DVD and CD burning software out there. I just installed Nero for Linux [nero.com] and it's great! The only thing really missing is a good DVD authoring program. QDVD author tries to put a GUI front-end on DVD author, but it sucks.

The next step for Ubuntu is to get application developers to crank out some decent multimedia software packages. At that point I can't see why any "normal" user would want to use Windows.

Re:Been there done that! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15444013)

Hopefully, it's Gnome 2.14. Gnome 2.0 sucked greatly, but it has become quite pleasant now.

Re:Been there done that! (4, Funny)

dsginter (104154) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444020)

I think Ubuntu will be on the forefront of competitive alternative OS's to Windows, especially if Vista keeps slipping!

From this day forth, all non-Ubuntu operating systems should be referred to as "Non-Canonical OSes".

Blast (0)

alexmc (68956) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443772)

Bother. I just installed Ubuntu a few days ago. Now I'll have to test its upgrade procedure :-)

Re:Blast (1)

s31523 (926314) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443785)

It should go pretty smoothly! I was actually impressed, since Linux and "smoothly" are not used in the same sentence very often, that is, until now!

Re:Blast (4, Informative)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443817)

Bother. I just installed Ubuntu a few days ago. Now I'll have to test its upgrade procedure :-)

I've been tracking Dapper since flight 3, its as easy as:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -yqq dist-upgrade

(and wait)

Alternatively, you could just boot & wait - the updater will update everything in the background for you :-)

Re:Blast (1)

corvair2k1 (658439) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443930)

Yeah, I actually installed Breezy for the first time... Yesterday.

However, I'm sure the upgrade process is pretty smooth for people who haven't mucked around in things yet. =)

I'm quite happy about this upgrade, because I hear that there is greatly increased Mac PPC support (wifi, sound, etc.) Maybe it'll help with the heat issue I'm having as well...

Any Torrents??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15444039)

Any torrents out there?

To convince your friends (5, Informative)

Tribbin (565963) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443783)

To convince your friends to try it, order 10 PC-edition CD's delivered at your door for free and give them away to people mildly interested.

It's live-CD installer style. Will probably impress many.

https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ [ubuntu.com]

Re:To convince your friends (3, Funny)

Knx (743893) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443860)

While your approach is interesting, I'd like to point out another argument:

the logo [servebeer.com]

Now, the problem is that some of your friends may just want to "install" that as their new wallpaper on ... er ... their Windows desktop. Bummer.

Re:To convince your friends (5, Informative)

EnderGT (916132) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444047)

Dude, stick a "NSFW" on that, will ya!

Re:To convince your friends (1)

SpiritusGladius1517 (929800) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443969)

Also, if you don't want the hassle of installing with GNOME and changing to KDE, you can order Kubuntu [kubuntu.org] (Ubuntu with KDE as default) Desktop CDs as well.

Re:To convince your friends (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444052)

i will save Ubuntu the cost of shipping & handleing and download an ISO and keep a stack of blank CD-Rs and burn a few for anyone that asks

Re:To convince your friends (1, Troll)

Atlantis-Rising (857278) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444068)

Last time I tried that, every CD they sent me was corrupt. The install disks wouldn't install at all, and the LiveCDs crashed at random intervals. I was absolutely not impressed. I've tried to get Ubuntu working, but if they can't even press their CDs correctly, how do they expect anyone to actually bood the damn thing?

Re:To convince your friends (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15444080)

Somebody left a stack of Ubuntu: Linux for Humans cds in the local gay coffeeshop. (Since gay nerds predominately use Macs, who knows wtf they were thinking.) Anway, I took the pile home and never got around to doing anything with them. They look nice next to my AOL CD collection though.

Re:To convince your friends (1)

ThePengwin (934031) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444107)

And if they think it sucks... cool design CD Coasters!!!

Woo hoo!

I think thats what my 5.10 ones are going to become now...

Re:To convince your friends (1)

jdbartlett (941012) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444135)

Better yet, burn the CDs yourself; it is GPL, after all.

Software versions? (1, Redundant)

baadger (764884) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443789)

So what software versions are supported by Dapper out of the box? Theres Gnome 2.14, Xorg 7?

Anyone know of a list?

Re:Software versions? (5, Informative)

henriquemaia (733518) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443846)

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubun tu [distrowatch.com] Look at the table on that page.

Re:Software versions? (0, Redundant)

baadger (764884) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443939)

super-informative++;

Re:Software versions? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15443871)

This is a part of what I have installed. I guess it must be the same in default Ubuntu Dapper as well:

XOrg 7.0.0
Gnome 2.14.1
OpenOffice 2.0.2
Kernel 2.6.15-23...

Re:Software versions? (1)

Tribbin (565963) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443887)

All I know is that I no longer pay attention to that lately. All stable latest and greatest is now in dapper.

Re:Software versions? (1)

Keichann (888574) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443889)

http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ [ubuntu.com]

A fairly complete list of packages there, things like w32codecs and realplayer can be fetched from Debian Marillat.

Re:Software versions? (1)

Respect_my_Authority (967217) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443961)

Ubuntu has Xorg 7.0 and Gnome 2.14.1.

They've had a bit of a bad luck because a new version of Xorg was recently released and it didn't make its way to Ubuntu. Also, KDE 3.5.3 and Gnome 2.14.2 were released just today, so naturally Ubuntu doesn't have them.

And Ubuntu's kernel is not the latest version.

All software in Ubuntu is actually quite new -- they've just had some bad luck in timing the dapper release and this makes lots of packages look older than they actually are. :-(

Seamless Upgrade (5, Informative)

old_skul (566766) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443791)

For those of you dreading a long, drawn-out upgrade process, Ubuntu can upgrade using update-manager from many previous Debian builds. It's a seamless transition that can run in the background while you continue to work. One (count 'em) reboot is required, and you're done.

Congrats to the Dapper team.

Re:Seamless Upgrade (4, Funny)

strider44 (650833) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443828)

A reboot? Linux is obviously not ready for the desktop!

Re:Seamless Upgrade (1)

ats-tech (770430) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443978)

sudo update-manager -d

For those that may not know the command

Re:Seamless Upgrade (1)

hdante (771422) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444072)

No way. I'm using breezy here and running 'update-manager' doesn't change my current tree. Every Ubuntu upgrade I have to find out what's the id of the new distribution and change it by hand.

At last! (2, Funny)

mpiktas (740253) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443795)

At last it is on Slashdot. I've been refreshing the front page all day:) And no, I am not a sad sad geek. Ok, maybe a little:)

Re:At last! (2, Informative)

exit3219 (946049) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443814)

Yeah, the news is a little late. It has appeared on the first mirrors about 3 hours ago. BTW, Kubuntu is out there as well: http://kubuntu.com/download.php [kubuntu.com] (I wouldn't bother downloading it right now, since there's a huge congestion on the servers. I hope it'll be gone in a day or two.)

it's great (1)

rap-engineering (935381) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443797)

I have been running it on my dell b120 for a week with no problems

Re:it's great (1)

wild_berry (448019) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444010)

I dist-upgraded this morning. It boots quickly, makes good use of proprietary video drivers, is well-organised, functional and efficient. I would say that it is comparable to Win2k or WinXP from the month or so I've been using a release candidate. I hope that the fall's Edgy Eft release can be comparable to the looks and usability of these Windows Vista previews I keep seeing.

Usability and functionality (2, Insightful)

brenddie (897982) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443805)

I already fill my functionality needs with RHEL and CentOS but it would be nice if this release of ubuntu could perform the same tasks (plus comercial support) and on top of that "looks good" and is easy to use. This will surely raise the bar even higher than already set by Fedora5.

Upgrade Procedure? (0, Redundant)

Billy the Impaler (886238) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443811)

For those of us who are running 5.10 or one of the 6.06 betas, what is the upgrade procedure? Is it as easy as sending a few commands at the terminal or do we have to download, burn, and install as an "upgrade?"

Re:Upgrade Procedure? (5, Informative)

nhaines (622289) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443876)

Simply use Update Manager. 5.10 will say that the new release 6.06 is now available, with a button that will download an upgrade tool that will handle the repository and package transitions plus the postinstall stuff for you in a safe manner. If you've been running a 6.06 beta, just download any new package updates. If you've updated the beta in the last two days, you're basically already running 6.06 LTS.

Re:Upgrade Procedure? (3, Informative)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443911)

For those of us who are running 5.10 or one of the 6.06 betas, what is the upgrade procedure?

If you're running a 6.06 beta, you don't have to do anything. Boot up, log in & wait for the update manager to let you know its finished updating.

If you're running 5.10 (or earlier), the short, easy instructions are available here [ubuntu.com] - cli instructions are:
1) Change your sources.list to reflect the sources.list as shown on [ubuntu-nl.org] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 [ubuntu-nl.org]
2)Save the file and then type this in a terminal:
        sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Re:Upgrade Procedure? (2, Informative)

SStrungis (629260) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443927)

You should be able to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list without any trouble. Change all instances of "breezy" to "dapper". Do an apt-get update and then an apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade.

Careful when Upgrading (5, Informative)

goofyheadedpunk (807517) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443836)

As a Dapper user since before it was cool I'd like to warn everyone using Apple products, especially iBooks and other slightly more supported hardware, against upgrading just yet. A severe bug was introduced having to do with the ATI cards in laptops on May 29 that causes persistant systems freezes. (Why would you upgrade all of xorg two days before release?) The errors are unrecoverable and require a system reboot. There hasn't been much in the way of response, as everyone seems to be celebrating the release of Dapper.

More information can be found in the forums [ubuntuforums.org] and launchpad.net [launchpad.net] .

Re:Careful when Upgrading (1)

reaktor (949798) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443943)

Yes, ubuntu never worked with the radeon 9600 in my powermac. I installed gentoo and it worked automagically! Something is fishy with ubuntu and ATI/X11 for PPC.

Re:Careful when Upgrading (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15444012)

Maybe it's not the OS that's fishy, maybe it's your fucking piece of shit hardware vendors. It'd be cool if they played nice but instead we've got to use workarounds and kludges that hurt everyone else just to keep you fucks happy.

EasyUbuntu. (5, Informative)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443837)

After installing dapper, I highly reccommend grabbing easyubuntu [freecontrib.org] - it's a little package to get mp3s, wmvs, flash, java, crappy non-free nvidia/ati drivers etc all automagically installed.

Takes one of the niggles out of ubuntu.

Re:EasyUbuntu. (1)

jwd-oh (513054) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444065)

BUMPS is easier.

What's that burning smell???? (1)

What'sInAName (115383) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443839)


Hmm, the servers seem to be a bit... slow for some reason. Even mcs.anl.gov. That says something!

Heh, I'm sitting here on my laptop at USENIX, waiting for the talk to start. How many of you out there are doing the same?

Re:What's that burning smell???? (1)

ghost of perception (974605) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443910)

I am downloading from the European Mirror and it took a while to get started and is moving along at 20.3kbs at the moment. The torrents are still showing Breezy but thats to be expected at this stage. Currently running PC Linux OS duel boot with xp but hopefuly Drake will replace both on the laptop.

Re:What's that burning smell???? (1)

s31523 (926314) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444009)

That is why I installed the 6.06 RC a few days ago! It screamed! Install was done in 45 minutes flat, including download time! LOVE broadband!

The Death of Fedora (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15443843)

This is the beginning of the end for Fedora. Red Hat really shot itself in the foot with the dividing of its distro. It projected an image that Red Hat wasn't really willing to eat its own dog food. Canonical has one distro and one distro that it "stands" by for production use. A former Red Hat user.

Upgrade (1)

Rotting (7243) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443852)

I actually managed to fully upgrade from breezy (5.10) to dapper (6.06) without having to wipe the system. Of all the distros I have tried I have never used (IMHO) one that had such a painless upgrade process for major revisions.

They are doing a really great job on this.

Re:Upgrade (0, Redundant)

exit3219 (946049) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443903)

I think this is an acomplishment of the Debian APT system. Ubuntu hadn't much to do with it. Upgrades have been easy in Debian since... always!

this is light years past vista (1)

observer7 (753034) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443855)

this release of an operating system in terms of quality , bugs removed and security is the best for the computer enviroment since microsoft launched windows 98

Breezy to Dapper quick'n'painless. (3, Informative)

eddy (18759) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443861)

Upgraded from latest Breezy to Dapper earlier today. Only had to download 594MB of archives, and it took 95 minutes in total (download+unpacking/configuring).

Hot servers? (5, Funny)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443863)

TFA: Run on over to the download site while it's still hot.

Thanks but I plan to let the servers cool down for a few days before I hit them.

Re:Hot servers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15443940)

There's a torrent:
http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/ dvd/ [ubuntu.com]
But it is only for the DVD.

I'll miss the constant updates... (5, Informative)

kkiller (945601) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443865)

Having used Dapper for the last few months as a desktop user, I can say its a pretty neat system, but carries a few flaws. It boots far quicker than Breezy, seems to close down faster as well, has a smartend orange look (albeit resembling Vista a little but dumping that uniform Brown look for good), while the new shutdown dialog is quite cool. It remains the free easy-to-use distro of choice, at least for me.

So what sucks? SAMBA's graphical configuration is still useless for setting up Linux-Windows shares. The new Gnome Screensaver actually seems a retrograde step, losing RSS, per-screensaver settings and several popular XScreensaver hacks - supposedly in the name of ease-of-use. I can imagine users will fall over themselves with hacks to get XScreensaver working again.

Re:I'll miss the constant updates... (1)

henriquemaia (733518) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443917)

"I can imagine users will fall over themselves with hacks to get XScreensaver working again."

sudo apt-get install xscreensaver

Re:I'll miss the constant updates... (3, Informative)

kkiller (945601) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443956)

Err, not exactly. I have that package installed, and it does not run at startup by default. Sure, getting it to do the latter isn't exactly hard, but it's not out of the box either - and will surely become a subject of the Automatix/EasyUbuntu scripts out there.

Re:I'll miss the constant updates... (5, Interesting)

exit3219 (946049) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443932)

You won't miss them, 'cause Edgy Eft (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft) is coming fast (October 2006)

Re:I'll miss the constant updates... (2, Interesting)

kkiller (945601) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444067)

Whats an Eft?

torrents (5, Informative)

glarvat (753298) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443904)

Here are the links to the torrents from one of mirrors:

Alternate (amd64) [iu.edu]

Alternate (i386) [iu.edu]

Alternate (powerpc) [iu.edu]

Desktop (amd64) [iu.edu]

Desktop (i386) [iu.edu]

Desktop (powerpc) [iu.edu]

Server (amd64) [iu.edu]

Server (i386) [iu.edu]

Server (powerpc) [iu.edu]

BitTorrent Links (3, Informative)

solferino (100959) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443923)

i386 [task.gda.pl]

amd64 [task.gda.pl]

powerpc [task.gda.pl]

p.s. you're getting the Dekstop version here. Described thus on the download page:

The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of CD is what most people will want to use. You will need at least 192MB of RAM to install from this CD.

The Ubuntu Car is not brown ! (1)

Ploum (632141) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443925)

It's no more brown ! It's orange ! There is even a Dapper Car [netsplit.com] ! Of course, this was before! If you look closely, you will see that the car has 4 wheels. This is not true anymore as we are now all using flying cars [frimouvy.org] .

BTW, there's even Ubuntu in Belgium [ubuntu-be.org] now...

Chav Linux (1)

kkiller (945601) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443984)

Focus ST. Ok, the name is ill-chosen, you can get it in a sort of orange tracksuit colour that wouldn't look out of place on a rapper and it's bound to become the car of choice for Burberry check-wearers across Essex - but that doesn't stop it from being a fantastic car.

Mmmmm, Burberry windows :-D

To been or not to been (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15443952)

I'm glad it has been finally been released.

Where's the DVD release? (1)

Ossifer (703813) | more than 8 years ago | (#15443962)

This would surely help in these early days, when everything you need can be downloaded at one time, via bittorrent.

Re:Where's the DVD release? (4, Informative)

Ossifer (703813) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444041)

The DVD links on the standard Ubuntu download page all point to breezy releases. I did some poking around and found: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/ dvd [ubuntu.com]

Good luck!

Re:Where's the DVD release? (2, Interesting)

Dude McDude (938516) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444091)

What is in the DVD iso version? (it's ~3.13GB)

I'm extrememly pleased... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15443981)

with the news of this release. This pleasantry comes with one caveat, however, and that is since 5.10, I have since bought a MacBook that runs OS X. I'm of the opinion that of all Linux distros, Ubuntu is the finest attempt at reaching the level of desktop maturity out of the box that OS X users currently enjoy. I think I may install it on my MacBook, but I'll have to check to ensure that 6.06 is compatible with Core Duo Intel motherboards.

aaaaalmost released? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15444003)

yup...

Ubuntu's the new debian!

(get's closer with each new [almost] release!)

Why I don't use it (0, Redundant)

teslatug (543527) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444022)

So I gave Ubuntu a shot with all the hype, and I must say I hate their package manager. I want to upgrade Firefox to 1.5.0.3 so I do a search with their utility (forget the name) and I can't find it. That makes a bit of sense as it was pretty new. I figure I'd get it directly from Mozilla, but first let me remove the old package. Can't do it, unless I want to remove all of Ubuntu desktop. Why would I want to remove all the desktop apps? What is this Microsoft? They have to bundle the browser? Just try and remove any application using their package manager. Pretty much everything that comes with Ubuntu is tied into that Ubuntu desktop app. So I end up having two of everything. How is that user friendly? Yes, I'm sure you can remove it by going command line. But for that I'll stick with Slackware. At least I know what to expect, I just thought I'd try this new fangled user-friendly distro.

Re:Why I don't use it (2, Informative)

mat1t (772346) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444086)

The package isn't a real program. It's a meta package to group other packages together. It's best use is allowing you to change between ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and edubuntu.

There's no harm in removing that package (even though it's not very user friendly and doesn't tell you)

On the plus side though, Firefox 1.5.0.3 is already installed! :)

Re:Why I don't use it (2, Informative)

kkiller (945601) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444090)

Ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package - it installs default ubuntu desktop components. It doesn't have to be there, inless you are using a development version and wish to follow changes to the defaults as they are made. You can happily remove it if you need to.

Ubuntu Desktop is just a placeholder (1)

charnov (183495) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444108)

Ubuntu Desktop is just a metapackage. It's safe to remove and will not affect anything. I stumbled on that one, too.

Re:Why I don't use it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15444116)

Can't do it, unless I want to remove all of Ubuntu desktop.
You don't need to remove any desktop programs. The 'ubuntu-desktop' package is just a meta-package to install all the default packages for the desktop user. Removing it just means those packages will not be upgraded as a group in the future.

Re:Why I don't use it (4, Informative)

mz2 (770412) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444118)

ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage that has dependencies to basically all desktop apps that are installed by default in Ubuntu (so that for example if you do a minimal install you can later on just do a "desktop installation" later on very easily (e.g. sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop). So you can remove ubuntu-desktop safely and everything will work just fine (which you would find out also if you read the package description of gnome-desktop).

Also, one particularly useful feature I've found with ubuntu/debian package handling is in cases where you need/want a slightly newer version of an application that's not yet available in the repositories with the version you want, you can do "sudo apt-get build-dep foobar" and then very easily compile your foobar yourself without having to worry about finding every header package that you need for compiling the app (something I find incredibly annoying on e.g. RHEL). Also, you can for most of the time install debian unstable packages as well if you're very impatient with getting packages not yet available for ubuntu.

Misleading summary!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15444024)

Why no shill paragraph boasting about the latest review of Vista beta?

Crying Shame! (1)

crhylove (205956) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444028)

Congrats to Ubuntu and all the ubuntu-folk, however the only thing that's going to REALLY put a dent in windows is being AHEAD of the game, and that would mean XGL and compiz long before Vista comes out. And no txt file hacking in the terminal, either...... Just drag and drop or install automagically.

When is Linux going to be AHEAD of the other OSes? All my average-joe friends would switch now if XGL and compiz came pre-installed!

rhY

Re:Crying Shame! (2, Informative)

mat1t (772346) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444098)

bring on the Edgy Eft [ubuntu.com]

Re:Crying Shame! (2, Informative)

VP (32928) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444132)

That's the next version, where all the new "experimental" stuff is going to be included [newsforge.com] . And it will still come out before Vista...

Wireless? (1)

edmicman (830206) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444071)

Will my wireless G with WPA-PSK work on the liveCD? I've got a Dell 600m....I hate having to go upstairs and hook into the wired internet to be able to do anything.

No LiveCD? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15444079)

Or am I missing something?

Automatix?? (1)

fredrik70 (161208) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444125)

Do you still have to run the automatix script in order to getr all the media codecs, etc?

No more losing packages I installed! (1)

Clinton (798067) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444128)

Just like the subject says, while I've been using Dapper for the last few months, I would have to apt-get install openoffice.org and numerous other packages on several occasions. For some reason their update software would REMOVE them! I'm not sure if they were doing this to get their system to their idea of "pristine", but I found it extremely annoying.

I welcome this release, and keeping the packages I've installed.

Back to the good old days (4, Insightful)

mslinux (570958) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444134)

Red Hat drops their free version of Red Hat Linux. They had mind-share. They owned the grass roots Linux movement. They created a huge void.

Debian is plugging along quietly producing a great, but somewhat difficult to use (for newbies and non-unix geeks) distro. Ubuntu comes along, works closely with the Debian project to produce a polished version. Now, we're back to the good old days of Linux :)

Red Hat *really* screwed-up, but I'm glad that Debian and Ubuntu have filled the void as they'll never pull a stunt like RH did.

version numbering schemes (1)

ChristTrekker (91442) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444139)

I understand the major.minor.patch system. It makes sense to me. But I've always wondered what numbers like "6.06" are supposed to mean. Do we ignore leading zeros (i.e. 6.6 - 6th release of version 6)? Are we supposed to assume a separator (i.e. 6.0.6 - 6th bugfux of version 6)? Or is this a different system of some kind altogether? It's not just Ubuntu - Opera (and others) do this too.

Dupey goodness? (0)

Al Cap0wn (974269) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444146)

http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/05/31/237259.sh tml [slashdot.org]

There was enough unnecessary Ubuntu sackriding going on in the editorial content for the Vista article, I think we can call this one a dupe.

Upgrade from FC4 (1)

parodyca (890419) | more than 8 years ago | (#15444155)

This is great. I've been waiting for this. Now what is the best way to upgrade my two FC4 machines and one RH9? Can I install over top without any sort of reformatting?
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