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IT Meets the World Cup

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the tech-lends-a-foot dept.

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daria42 writes "Looks as if there are some mad soccer fans at ZDNet ... they have compiled a guide to some of the IT systems behind the soccer World Cup. 'What does it take to design, build and operate an advanced, fault-tolerant IP network while the whole world watches?' one of the articles asks. Another looks at how broadcasters have beefed up their infrastructure as they prepare for an influx of fans desperate for information, while another looks at one of the upcoming matches: FIFA vs. Hackers."

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Mad Soccer fans? (-1, Offtopic)

Bedouin X (254404) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501803)

Are they angry at the network capacity or something?

Re:Mad Soccer fans? (1)

twd (167101) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501909)

Mad as in crazy. Mad meaning angry is an American colloquialism.

Re:Mad Soccer fans? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502014)

It would appear that sarcasm is an American concept as well...

Yeah the sucker worldcup (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15501804)

Wonderful. Full of hippies hooligans. What teh sh1t.

Soccer? (5, Funny)

StonePiano (871363) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501820)

I hadn't noticed a soccer event. Whatever 'soccer' is, it was bad timing to clash with the Football World Cup!

Re:Soccer? (0, Offtopic)

telchine (719345) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501843)

It must be an OS X thing. I'll never forget the time I ran out to buy an iPod and ended up with 2 MP3 players.

Re:Soccer? (3, Funny)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501854)

It's an abbreviation for "Association football", used to distinguish it from the popular alternative version of football invented in Rugby by William Webb Ellis.

Re:Soccer? (1)

Spliffster (755587) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501974)

in most latin derived languages (except english) it's just called football however.

Re:Soccer? (1)

lbrandy (923907) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501984)

in most latin derived languages (except english) it's just called football however.

That's an interesting point except for the fact that English isn't a latin-derived language in the traditional sense like Spanish, French, and Italian.

Re:Soccer? (1)

after fallout (732762) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502030)

English isn't Latin derived period (it is Germanic).

Re:Soccer? (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502059)

Well, yes, but there's a lot of pollution form French, and a pile of other languages that it's probably more of a creole.

Re:Soccer? (1)

Spliffster (755587) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502069)

oh right, i should have said "influenced" instead of "derived" concerning english.

Bitte vergeben Sie mir, ich spreche deutsch. - Please forgive I speak german. ;)

Re:Soccer? (5, Insightful)

StonePiano (871363) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502126)

Actually, in English, it is called 'football'. That was the point of starting this 'Soccer?' thread.

Now, Americans have a game they play with their hands, which they call, 'football'. I really enjoy American football (or grid-iron as we sometimes call it). It is more of a turn-based strategic game with complex rules and all the physicality of a train-crash. I like it.

But football is a free-flowing game. It has a simplicity and a beauty that gives it unparalleled status as an international team sport.

I for one am pleased to see the American team in the World Cup. They are improving and genuinely competing on the international scene nowadays.

It probably does more for US/international relations than most diplomatic efforts.

Re:Soccer? (1)

Spliffster (755587) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502204)

Actually, in English, it is called 'football'.
I used to live in london for some time, the brits call it soccer.

Re:Soccer? (3, Informative)

bheer (633842) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502276)

If you tune into any channel in the UK, or indeed any of their innumerable tabloids, it's "football" all the way. I don't know *who* uses the word 'soccer' in Britain, but America-returned Brits would come to mind.

Re:Soccer? (1)

StonePiano (871363) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502327)

Actually, some rugby enthusiasts use the word 'soccer', perhaps as a way of saying, I'm not with this 'football' crowd.

(I'm from New Zealand where 'football' means rugby. But I now live in England and play football.)

I can assure you that the overwhelming majority of British call the game 'football', not 'soccer'.

Re:Soccer? (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502588)

I've lived in London for the last 12 years, and various parts of England for the 19 years of my life before that, and trust me, almost no-one calls it soccer here.

Locale not Language (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502206)

>in most latin derived languages (except english) it's just called football however.

I think you'll find it's called football in English as well, particularly in the British Isles.

In the US, American Football is called Football
In Australia, Australian Rules Football is called Football
In the UK, Association Football is called Football

The usage of the name depends upon the predominant sport, and therefore it is inaccurate to state that it is called Soccer in English and not football, as it is dependent upon locale, not language.

Re:Soccer? (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501891)

While speaking of the [football] world cup, here in Canada, hockey is the killer game. Being an immigrant nation, Canada's diverse people return to their roots to support their national footbal teams. For this season, these folks "forget" their Canadian identity. Some are even citizens of Canada!

For those like myself who thought that Canada is made up of "white" folks and "Indians", you will be suprised that these people are now the minority in cities like Toronto.

Re:Soccer? (1)

SenseiLeNoir (699164) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501955)

Sometimes that is because the Canadian football team may not be fully up there yet.

Here in England (especially London), despite being a Multi Ethnic community, Ethnic Minorities, who dont have a suitable national team tend to stick to England (I am Sri Lankan, and I am flying my England colours).

Hmm, would be intrested to find out what team the "largish" Sri Lankan community in Toronto take on, as there isnt a Sri Lankan team in the World Cup. Who do they support?

I woudl think that Canadians in general would support their Neighbour, USA, as that team is pretty well rated.

Soccer is a boring sport that kids play... (0)

spike2131 (468840) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501986)

The Football World Cup sounds cool though, is that like the Super Bowl? Go Redskins!

Re:Soccer is a boring sport that kids play... (4, Interesting)

CaymanIslandCarpedie (868408) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502110)

Kind of like the Super Bowl except more people watch a single World Cup than like every Super Bowl combined. Kind of like comparing the Super Bowl to a local youth championship in some sport.

Re:Soccer is a boring sport that kids play... (1)

spike2131 (468840) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502523)

Well, I'm sorry to miss it then. I'll be busy watching paint dry...

More importantly (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15501849)

I'm more interested in what FIFA is going to do about the rampant racism that often surrounds European football more than what they'll do against hackers. It's very real and very scary for people of color (as Henry has talked about).

Re:More importantly (1)

bartyboy (99076) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501935)

FIFA's IT department has an equal-discrimination policy. They don't care if it's a scrip kiddie from India, a cracker from Russia or a scammer from Nigeria - none will get in.

At least I'm on topic.

Re:More importantly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502020)

I'm more interested to find out how your blatantly off topic comment got modded up to +2.

Re:More importantly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502096)

it's not so much to do with color as it does ethnicity

Re:More importantly (0, Flamebait)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502103)

It's very real and very scary for people of color (as Henry has talked about).

It's not just people of colour. If you walk through certain zones of fans wearing the wrong team colours or speaking with the wrong accent you stand a serious chance of being seriously assaulted, if not killed.

I'm sick of soccer fans. These days, FIFA jerseys have replaced the black/blue/brownshirt.

Re:More importantly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502108)

How the bloody hell is this 'interesting'?

You want a sport regulation to take care something governments in those countries cant?
Gee, why not have FIFA take care of unemployment?

Basketball is played around the world, yet I dont think youd ask FIBA to do the same.

People care about watching sport...or talking tech.

You dont do either, so Goodbye, you are the weakest link!!

Re:More importantly (3, Informative)

RahoulB (178873) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502199)

The clubs have the power to ban individuals from the grounds. In England you can expect a swift ejection and a ban for racism. But in some countries, a large proportion of the crowd can be making monkey noises and chucking bananas and UEFA (yes, I know, not FIFA) fine the club a few thousand Euros. If UEFA cared then they would put pressure on the clubs to take action. But they don't.

Re:More importantly (1)

jonnythan (79727) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502434)

When there are fans in the stands with blatantly racist signs, and large groups of them wearing Nazi logos and giving the Nazi salute to on-field players - who occasionally return the salute - as well as players being hounded *on the field by other players* and FIFA does *nothing at all about it* something is fucked up. If someone showed up at an American football game and waved a swastika while calling Daunte Culpepper racist slurs, or even simply *threw bananas at him*, he would be escorted out of the stadium and probably brought up on charges.

Re:More importantly (1)

eraserewind (446891) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502552)

I'm more concerned about the recycled arguments that people copied from some tv pundit I see on websites from people that are insecure about unamerican sports existing and being more popular.

World cup? (2, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501892)

What world cup? Is there anything meaningful going on currently?

(spare me the answer. I wish I could cryo myself for a month)

Re:World cup? (1)

dissolved (887190) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502047)

you do know that you don't have to watch it?

Re:World cup? (1)

Killjoy_NL (719667) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502194)

it's true that you don't have to watch it, but everywhere you go you get it crammed down your throat.
Shops, TV even Slashdot now and if that isn't enough, it will be THE topic at the water cooler and in the offices for a a long time.

That's why I took the coming 2 weeks off and plan to live like a hermit, just me, my beer and World of Warcraft.

I just hope the Netherlands lose soon so the madness will die down sooner here.

(and I wish the people that do like it the best of fun with it, just don't bother me with it)

Re:World cup? (1)

dissolved (887190) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502260)

That's fine - I was the same with The Ashes last year. What I disagree with are people who go out of their way to be killjoys. For example the BBC site has been inundated with people writing on polls stating they hate football and "can everyone stop please flying England flags?" etc. Each to their own.

Enjoy the WoW - I don't get time to play anymore :-(

Re:World cup? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502447)

I don't?

Buy groceries and try to avoid the ball-shaped coke cans and the "win a ticket" competitions on EVERY SINGLE piece of crap you buy.

Go to work and try to find ANY subject to talk about that doesn't involve it.

Go out with friends to a bar. Use your imagination for the development of the evening.

I swear, I'm THIS close to opening a channel dedicated to World Cup refugees. Kickban for everyone who even comes close to touching the subject.

FIFA live cast (1, Insightful)

jsse (254124) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501894)

In China, most of them don't pay for watching FIFA.

Don't blame them for pirating your content. They should really taking their standard of living when charging them the royalty. What RMB150 per month for FIFA watching? Fuck, some of them just earn less than RMB500 per month.

Life finds its way. You charge them what majority can't afford, majority looks for something free [pplive.com]

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.. vs hackers (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15501898)

As I sit here in my cube, slowly watching the load graphs go up ... And somebody just quips - Time Value of Money ... Hackers are turning extortionists, threatening DDoS attacks unless paid up (You wouldn't want nothing to happen to that pretty website, kapic ?).

You win a few, you lose a few - another day @ Work.

Yes, but is it streaming in the US? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15501903)

I think this was brought up recently - how can I watch the games streaming in the U$A?

Re:Yes, but is it streaming in the US? (1)

lbrandy (923907) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501971)

I think this was brought up recently - how can I watch the games streaming in the U$A?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ [bbc.co.uk] . That, or watch ABC/ESPN/ESPN2.

Re:Yes, but is it streaming in the US? (1)

Scorchio (177053) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502224)

The BBC streams are locked to be viewable by UK residents only.

Being sat in the office, many of us don't have access to TVs or XM radios, which is why internet streaming would be really useful.

The closest thing I found was ESPN 360, but it was locked to a select few ISPs, ffs.

Re:Yes, but is it streaming in the US? (1)

VlartBlart (948166) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502384)

You can only watch BBC online if you live in the UK (we do pay the license fee after all) - have you tried using a UK proxy - it might work... 1st game kicks off in 45 mins...

Good luck!

Article submitter born yesterday? (3, Informative)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501906)

""Looks as if there are some mad soccer fans at ZDNet ... they have compiled a guide to some of the IT systems behind the soccer World Cup."

Or, ZDNet reprinted a four-page press release from the World Cup after the Cup spent four years soliciting IT sponsors. "Compiled a guide" my ass...

Damn US-centric website (4, Insightful)

Roadmaster (96317) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501922)

in most of the world, the World Cup is (dare I say it) more important than any other sporting event (yes, even the olympic games). It'd do good to US citizens to dig out of the hole and stop pretending; while you're at it you might as well start ditching the imperial measuring system. And yes, in most of the rest of the world, interesting matches are broadcast for free. lol!

Re:Damn US-centric website (5, Interesting)

UnixSphere (820423) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501991)

I live in the US and I love soccer(football), people ask why haven't we really adopted soccer as widely as the rest of the world did, it's still relatively young but things like this (charging to see the games) are impeding the wide adoptation of it. Companies are so short-sighed and just want to profit as much as they can, instead of stepping back and letting us American see the games for free and help build a soccer fan-base that could be comparable to any other.

Re:Damn US-centric website (2, Interesting)

hrtserpent6 (806666) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502162)

Soccer is *not* relatively young in the U.S. It has been a member of FIFA since 1914, and was one of 13 nations in the first World Cup in 1930.

There are over 200 NCAA Division I men's soccer teams, and yet professional soccer in the U.S. is a curiosity at best. Why is this? I think the reasons may be more deeply rooted in the American need to be unique and dominant (see "American-invented sports" such as baseball, football, basketball, NASCAR, etc.) rather than in soccer's popularity or approachability. I will posit that *at least* 1 in 4 kids in the U.S. have played soccer at some point in their youths.

But to say that soccer is not popular in this country because it is 'young' is patently false.

Re:Damn US-centric website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502218)

Hate to break it to you, but basketball was Canadian invented

Re:Damn US-centric website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502259)

I believe soccer is the number one participation sport for school kids in the US.

Re:Damn US-centric website (1)

hrtserpent6 (806666) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502268)

The inventor was Canadian, but the sport was invented in Springfield, Massachusetts in 1891.

Re:Damn US-centric website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502468)

Well, there's your problem then, eh?

Re:Damn US-centric website (1)

thefirelane (586885) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502170)

Companies are so short-sighed and just want to profit as much as they can, instead of stepping back and letting us American see the games for free

Sorry, you are the short sighted one here. Why would they establish a precident of free games? It would make it increadibly difficult to switch them to a charging system later on. Prices are set to what the market will bear, and if the market gets 'used' to free, it makes it tough to raise prices

A good example is gasoline... people cry murder for $3 a gallon when almost every other liquid they buy costs by far more.

Re:Damn US-centric website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502378)

People don't buy 16-20 (or more) gallons of milk every three to four weeks.

Re:Damn US-centric website (1)

Politburo (640618) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502386)

The problem is that every other sport in the US is shown for free. The rare exception off the top of my head is boxing. The pay sports channels are almost all gone.

Furthermore, there aren't that many common liquids more expensive than $3/gal. Water and soda only are if you extrapolate the per gallon price from a 12 or 20 oz. bottle. Brand name soda is available for 2L @ $0.99, which makes it ~$2/gal. Water in bulk is ridiculously cheap. 100% Juice is the only one that I can think of right now that is routinely over $3/gal.

Re:Damn US-centric website (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502179)

I will watch the world cup, but there are plenty of things to hate about soccer.

Foremost is diving, players who act up every chance they get - ie, when another player approaches them. This is just too much for Americans (with American football), Australians (with Aussie Rules) and Rugby watcher, who are used to seeing real injuries.

Also, the fact that is it such a defensive game these days, with hardly any goals being scored makes it poor to watch. Watching people get excited over an almost goal makes me laugh everytime.

And penalties is no way in the world to decide a game - what a joke.

Re:Damn US-centric website (1)

General Melchett (860357) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502579)

And penalties is no way in the world to decide a game - what a joke.

I reckon penalties is am excellenet way to decide a game. Testing skill, nerves and still involving a modicum of luck, exactly like the previous 120 minutes did.

Penalty shootout naysayers confuse me....

Re:Damn US-centric website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502580)

oh yes, i for one look forward to the time we get goals in double, even triple figures.. NOT. the what ifs, maybes and the oh so closes are part of the sport.

Re:Damn US-centric website (1)

bheer (633842) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502305)

> I live in the US and I love soccer(football), people ask why haven't we really adopted soccer as widely as the rest of the world did

I think it's the 2x45 minute playtimes. Makes it hard on TV companies to promote (less time for ads) and requires a lot of stamina for a casual player.

Re:Damn US-centric website (1)

Roadmaster (96317) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502328)

Yeah, quite unlike a 5-hour world series game. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge baseball fan, but the length of soccer games is no excuse.

Re:Damn US-centric website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502543)

Its the US/world media mentality. After all, Jon Stewart's "The Daily Show" was ruined for a week while he was getting ready to present a local award ceremony in Los Angeles that wasn't even televised. The "oscars" 2006 weren't shown on mainstream television in the UK (broadcast or digital terrestrial "freeview"), while "the daily show" was just repeats that week. I guess hollywood didn't want anyone to know what films they were promoting this year.

Re:Damn US-centric website (1)

lbrandy (923907) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502002)

And yes, in most of the rest of the world, interesting matches are broadcast for free. lol!

Really? And here in the US, most of the interesting matches are broadcast on ABC which is.. you guessed it... free! lol!

Re:Damn US-centric website (4, Interesting)

OctoberSky (888619) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502010)

I can't argue with your statements. I was watching ESPN the other day and they were talking about how the Championship games (or series) are watched in terms of viewers. The Superbowl is tops in America at an absurd number like 90 million (from my memory someone else will prove me wrong) and the NBA and MLB finals came in well below at about 30 & 20 million respectively. Football (with a round ball) has the World Cup championship coming in at.. I have to type this one out... 1,300,000,000. That is 1.21 Billion more people than who watch the Super Bowl and that is in 2002. No one knows what 2006 will hold.

The real question should be:

What does it take to make Americans watch Football

And not for nothing but I have only once in my life watched an entire game of Football/Soccer. Ireland v Italy from the Meadowlands, in 1994.

Re:Damn US-centric website (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502157)

Like in the UK, where every single news cast has a 5 minute story about Wayne Rooney, a player who injured his foot. It is really amazing to see, every broadcast on every channel saying the same thing 'We won't know for sure, until next week'. They fact thay they have nothing new to report won't stop them. Sure I can understand an update on when SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED, but this is ridiculous.

spare us please! (0, Troll)

cliffski (65094) | more than 7 years ago | (#15501958)

I thought slashdot would be the one place us geeks could get away from this football-talk.
Yawn.

Re:spare us please! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502022)

Some of us geeks actually enjoy football and would rather you didn't claim to speak for us.

Re:spare us please! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502031)

Oh shut up! Why do you even bother responding? You could have skipped the article the moment you saw the headline.

Re:spare us please! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502092)

How else could he flaunt his obvious intellectual superiority without taking the time to stick his nose in the air and comment on the plebs and their barbaric pastimes?

laugh if you will... (2, Insightful)

preppypoof (943414) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502013)

soccer is still not a widely accepted sport in the US, so while you laugh at what a "stupid" sport soccer is, the rest of the world is laughing at us for not supporting what could be a World Cup Championship calibur team this quatrain. when a foreign country wins the World Cup, there is literally partying and dancing in the streets, but sadly, that would not be the case should the US take the cup.

Re:laugh if you will... (1)

dissolved (887190) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502083)

A large portion of the rest of the world laughs at sports where:

- you have three teams (offense, defense and "special") which you bring on every 30 seconds. wearing an insane amount of armour and not really doing a lot.
- driving around a circle all day
etc. etc. I myself love Ice Hockey & Basketball even though I'm nought but a limey. It'd be nice if the US did more to embrace world cultures. As someone once said about football "If you only see the ball, you've missed the point". It's a world-uniting event.

Re:laugh if you will... (1)

n0dna (939092) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502367)

"when a foreign country wins the World Cup, there is literally partying and dancing in the streets"

You forgot to mention "when a foreign country loses the World Cup, there is literally kidnapping and execution in the airports"

Wake me when it's over.

Article Summary for US Readers (1)

Aqua_boy17 (962670) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502039)

For busy /. readers in the US with limited (if any) interest in the World Cup finals, the following brief article summary is provided as a service:

Hackers say to FIFA "i got ball" then call them stupid white bitches and threaten to whack them upside the head with their own sidekicks.

streaming splitting and caching proxy (1)

poleshifter (461440) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502093)

Blue Coat Systems sells appliances that claim to cache (stored) and split (live) streaming video. If true, these (or things like these) could be deployed at the bottlenecks.

Why football (soccer) isn't more popular in N.Amer (-1, Offtopic)

B5_geek (638928) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502171)

I live in Canada. I like hockey & (American) Football (NFL/CFL).
I hate soccer for the same reasons I hate basketball and golf.
It is slow, boring and from the looks of things involves very little strategy.

Here is my impression of all soccer & basketball games I have ever seen:
"Smith steals the ball, weaves his way through traffic, shoots AND SCORES!!"
"Adams passes the ball to Jones, Jones weaves his way through traffic, shoots AND SCORES!!" ... ad infinitum ....

Basketball: this will happen 100 times in a game.
Soccer: this will happen 4 times in a game.

run down the field/court, shoot, score.
Rinse, Lather, Repeat.
Soccer seems to maintain a frenetic pace only matched by Golf.
Sorry but it's not for me.

Re:Why football (soccer) isn't more popular in N.A (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502230)

wow. the ignorance in your post is something you don't see that often in /.

Re:Why football (soccer) isn't more popular in N.A (2, Funny)

lbrandy (923907) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502296)

wow. the ignorance in your post is something you don't see that often in /.

Wow is right. You must be new here. Welcome.

Re:Why football (soccer) isn't more popular in N.A (2, Insightful)

Carewolf (581105) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502264)

So it's great when it happens a 100 times in a game?..

The excitement will take no end at the 101th time someone scores... yeaaaaayy

Re:Why football (soccer) isn't more popular in N.A (1)

B5_geek (638928) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502407)

You might have misunderstood my point.
I dislike basketball too, it appears that the only difference between the two are the fequency of goals.

Re:Why football (soccer) isn't more popular in N.A (1)

toneh (973590) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502340)

I think you hate what you don't understand. I took the time to check out American Football once. If you think World Football looks stupid from the outside, I won't even start talking about how stupid American Football does. But it *is* an interesting game, after all.

World Football has lots of strategy. But you don't get to see it unless you get into it. Sorry.

Re:Why football (soccer) isn't more popular in N.A (3, Insightful)

tumbleweedsi (904869) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502360)

I am probably going to get modded troll by every north american here but this needs to be said. Football, or "soccer" as you so quaintly call it does not lack the strategy of american games however it does lack the 30 second break every two or three seconds so the teams can take a breather and the TV pundits can explain what just happened. Hockey is, and always will be, much more interesting when it is played by 18 year old girls rather than burley frat boys in pads and american "football" is an enigma: as Giles from Buffy said once, I have never understood why a nation which prides itself on its virility has to put on 40lbs of protective clothing just to play rugby. Football (not the american sort) has been labelled "the beautiful game" throughout the world because of the grace and skill needed to play it at a high level. The game has a true World Cup in which countries come together and compete on a level field... you do not need to be an american college frat boy to get into the team and some of the best players in the world have come from the poorest parts of the world. If you have not developed a love for fast paced games then it is likely you have not taken the time to understand how they are played and never felt the rush of watching your team win from a losing position.

A faster sport (1, Offtopic)

Epeeist (2682) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502460)

You need to start watching people fencing saber. I was at the World Under-17 championships last year as one of the coaches to the British squad.

First period (this stops when someone reaches 8 hits): 8-4 to Alex O'Connell after 27 seconds of fencing time.

Half time break: 1 minute

Second period (this stops when someone reaches 15): 15-11 to Alex O'Connell after 29 seconds of fencing time.

An ideal sport for those with the attention span of a small goldfish.

See http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5396021508 615883493 [google.com] for a (not very good) example.

Re:Why football (soccer) isn't more popular in N.A (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15502491)

"I live in Canada. I like hockey & (American) Football (NFL/CFL).
I hate soccer for the same reasons I hate basketball and golf.
It is slow, boring and from the looks of things involves very little strategy."

Fyi: Football (soccer) is all about strategy, it's the "chess of the green fields", goddammit. I like hockey too, and while strategy is an important element in that game too, it's in no way comparable to football. Slow-paced doesn't mean boring. Despite of being a fast game, hockey games can be very boring sometimes too.

I'll tell you why... (5, Insightful)

citizenklaw (767566) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502269)

Advertising. Plain and simple.

Soccer does not stop for anything. There's no stopping for injuries, time-outs for strategies, etc. Soccer is the most dynamic sport on the planet, period. I really admire those guys spending 90 minutes running and doing stuff. I think that Soccer, as a TV spectator sport, has not catched on major networks because advertisers here in the US do not like it. There's no place for 30 second ads! Gasp! Egads! There's no place for gimmicky Super Bowl ads!

I really like Soccer, on TV and on the flesh. I really hope that the US team goes far this time, even though I'm rooting for other teams. That's the only way US spectators will notice and learn what the rest of the planet knows. Soccer RULES!

This time last time... (2, Informative)

VlartBlart (948166) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502282)

I'm currently watching the BBC tv coverage on one monitor via my slingbox, BBC online live coverage on the other monitor and listening to talksport radio on my ipaq - I couldn't do any of these last world cup.

Don't ya just love technology :)

RSS World Cup poor (1)

Chopo (978903) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502369)

The RSS feeds you can get on the World Cup that focus on providing tools for scores and stat fanatics is poor. A real RSS explosion/tool explosing would rise if that info would be more easy free available. Microsoft did some nice work with a EXCEL but then you would need licences.. RSS discovery next World Cup then?

PeerCast! (1)

hkfczrqj (671146) | more than 7 years ago | (#15502609)

Anybody remembers PeerCast [peercast.org] ? I think it was made for situations like this :) Some people in Japan already set up some stations, but not enough...

Can somebody set up one station closer to the US, to get my fix at lunch/work? (I don't mind the language).
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