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IDGI (1, Redundant)

dk-software-engineer (980441) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516045)

So he set up a fan? What's the point, that it's from a computer?

Re:IDGI (1)

ateves (981580) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516052)

maybe it's so interesting because most nerds use those fancy USB fans. Dunno, I don't get it, too. For my pleasure this thing does not provide enough power, it's 37C in here.

Re:IDGI (3, Informative)

unts (754160) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516079)

Wow, I really didn't expect the Slashdot editors to accept my submission of this. Still, this is what happens when you can't be arsed to go out and buy some proper cooling. Take it at face value folks, it's just a bit of light humour! I'll just sit here staying cool.

Re:IDGI (4, Funny)

I Like Pudding (323363) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516152)

Take it at face value folks

So, retarded then?

Re:IDGI (1)

limegreen (516173) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516166)

It's slashdotted, for sure.

Re:IDGI (2, Funny)

flumps (240328) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516478)

There seems to have been a problem with the database.
Please try again by clicking the Refresh [slashdot.org] button in your web browser.

An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff [mailto], whom you can also contact if the problem persists.

We apologise for any inconvenience.

Oops does that mean when I pushed refresh 1000 times they'll get 1000 emails?

Heheheh.

*clickclickclickclick*

A bit low tech... (2, Informative)

md81544 (619625) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516047)

Er... it's called a fan... I was at least hoping for something more high-tech, like Peltiers and stuff :)

news? WTF? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516049)

Uh..this is news? some guy wiring up an old psu-fan to cool himself? how elaborate....

must be a slow, slow news day...

And the news drought continues.... (1, Informative)

Mr Z (6791) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516050)

Hooking a 5v fan to 12v and using it to cool the user instead of the computer qualifies as front page material? Wow. Slow news day already?

Re:And the news drought continues.... (5, Funny)

harrkev (623093) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516224)

Tomorrow's news: A guy figures out how to use a wall-wart power supply, thereby avoiding spinning a hard drive and decreasing the heat in the room even more.

In next week's news: A guy puts a cup of ice in front of the fan for even more X-treme cooling. You have to use the "X-treme" because it points out how really radical this idea is.

Ok, /.. You just took five minutes of my life. I want it back! I even had to go to Mirrordot to see this bit of moronic stupidity.

Go To Hell... (4, Funny)

jkrise (535370) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516051)

That's a better solution to this summer's heat... with Vista and DNF REALLY REALLY likely to get shipped soon, it should be quite cool in Hell.

Wow (5, Insightful)

I Like Pudding (323363) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516053)

How in god's name was this article accepted? HE PLUGGED A FAN INTO A POWER LEAD! WOW!

Alert the media.

Re:Wow (1)

ateves (981580) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516080)

Hey, don't forget he had to remove some screws... This could bring the sweat up to your face on days like these.

Re:Wow (1)

jkrise (535370) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516100)

I think Slashdot's beginning to resemble Microsoft these days... More eye candy, some fancy graphics.... but rotten content inside! To top it all, there's an AMD ad talkin' about the Power of Cool!! Are companies paying Slashdot to dumb-down readers?

Re:Wow (1)

I Like Pudding (323363) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516112)

The MS comparison is stretching it. This is just fucking stupid in its own singular fashion. Hmmmm....singular...ity? OH GOD IT'S COLLAPSED IN ON ITSELF GET AWA-

Re:Wow (1)

pioneerX (830117) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516247)

We are currently having some of our few days of real summer temperatures in the UK, that is the news.

Go buy a (floor) ventilator... (3, Informative)

madsdyd (228464) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516056)

Honestly. That seems to be about the most silly thing I have seen in ages.

A floor ventilator around the corner from where I am sitting, goes at about $30.

Smaller models (like the one he is using) goes as low as $10-15.

If your time worth so little (and remember, the FTA says its for those that _has_ to work) that this is a solution for you, find a better paying job!

Re:Go buy a (floor) ventilator... (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516109)

Look, I'm an accountant by trade. But I think you're missing the whole point of any hack. It's not about a CBA of potential solutions, it's about implementing a creative solution, particularly when done with excess parts on hand.

Is this a grade school-level hack? Sure. Is it 'cooler' than purchasing a fan? You betcha. Does the author deserve ridicule? Not at all (though I'll withhold judgment on whoever posted the submission).

Re:Go buy a (floor) ventilator... (3, Insightful)

madsdyd (228464) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516160)

Well, I always thought it was also about beeing clever, and implementing stuff that in some sense was "better" than what non-hackers would think up.

And, even applying my most friendly view on it, there is nothing clever about powering a (5V) fan from the (12V) power supply on a portable hd.

In addition to that, its a somewhat dangerous solution, and it is suboptimal even to the cheapest ventilator you can buy. (Which will most likely rotate, and thereby make the airflow more tolerable). So I do not believe it qualifies for beeing better in any sense.

But, perhaps I am just beeing harsh because I did not expect slashdot to post such a "story".

Regards hack value: Last year, some guy posted a story about doing his own air-condition. That was a worthy hack, IMO.

Re:Go buy a (floor) ventilator... (1)

default luser (529332) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517368)

And, even applying my most friendly view on it, there is nothing clever about powering a (5V) fan from the (12V) power supply on a portable hd.

No, it's even sadder than that. He ran a 12v fan off a 12v powersupply.

Hell, when I was 16, I lost the powr adapter to my model 1 Sega Genesis. Unfortunately, all the stores carried were the model 2 power adapters, which supplied less voltage and had a different jack (for obvious reasons). I took a printer powersupply (with the wrong jack, but the right voltage / current) and "modded" it with the jack of another powersupply (that fit properly).

Why wasn't I on Slashdot? I blame it on Microsoft.

Impressive (5, Funny)

digitalhermit (113459) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516067)

Wow.. He took a case fan and powered it from a, uh, power supply. But that's not all that impressive. One time, at band camp, I attached a CD-ROM drive and used power from *ANOTHER* power supply sitting in a *DIFFERENT* machine. And once, at a hacker convention (well, at my friend's house really), we super-hacked a a PS2 mouse to work with a USB interface by using an adapter we rigged (well, it came with the mouse actually).

Re:Impressive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517221)

I did that as well with a harddisk. It said flash, bang and smoke came curling out of the chips.

A micro solution to a macro problem. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516073)

If you re-invent the wheel, you should end up with a better wheel. This smacks of the joke that ends with the punchline "Because he can!".

Stop being so clever, and invest in a cheap pedestal fan instead of OVERCLOCKING A COMPUTER FAN to run at a higher voltage without any guards. When those bearings (which are already commented as being dodgy) give out, if he's lucky, the fan won't sieze and burn up on top of his old hard drive.

This isn't post-worthy.

article dead already (3, Funny)

bobamu (943639) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516075)

So I have to guess the other comments.

He attached a fan to an electrical supply?

All I can say is, as an article, that blows.

Blows? Maybe... (2, Funny)

demongeek (977698) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516192)

But if he connected the fan to a power inverter, would that make the article suck?

It's possible (1)

bobamu (943639) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516288)

and if he arranged one fan to suck and one to blow and somehow put the airflow in a loop

maybe he could get perpetual motion.

OMG Net Neutrality! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516078)

Either we slashdotted the page or they didn't pay the ISPs premium-access fee.

Re:OMG Net Neutrality! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516190)


Either we slashdotted the page or they didn't pay the ISPs premium-access fee.


Or we just found out where he ripped that fan.

Re:OMG Net Neutrality! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516406)

Or we just found out where that fan came from.

Re:OMG Net Neutrality! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516944)

Or we just found out where he got that fan . . .

Re:OMG Net Neutrality! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517138)

Or we've divined the origin of the fan.

Real Men... (3, Funny)

Curious Yellow 82 (863079) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516085)

...would use a superfluid [wikipedia.org] to keep themselves cool. They would also draw upon inspiration to explain the birth of the universe [slashdot.org] from it.

Alternatively, I could say, "on another hot summer's day where there was absolutely nothing newsworthy, /. decides to publish something that was born of a jobless geek's attempt to soothe his fevered brow while entertaining himself watching pornography."

Re:Real Men... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516584)

"...while entertaining himself watching pornography."

WARNING: Do NOT poke objects into fan!

/. effect (3, Funny)

Presidential (805793) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516086)

Okay, here we see uncontested evidence that the /. effect overheats computers. Er, it overheats computers whose fans have been removed by their owners to cool their own paltry 98.6F down a degree or two, completely ignoring the smoking machine whose processor just jumped to that magical 170F.

I can't even RTFA on this one.

7 am and the link has been /.'d to death (1)

RingDev (879105) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516087)

At least it sounds like it wasn't worth readying!

-Rick

Re:7 am and the link has been /.'d to death (1)

markild (862998) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516117)

You know Europe operate in a (read:several) different timezone, right?

Re:7 am and the link has been /.'d to death (1)

RingDev (879105) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516386)

Ya bunch of limey bastards! I'll teach you to not use US CST! :P

Yeah, I should have focused on the time from post to the down time, 10 minutes or less. That' what I get for posting before my morning dose of caffeine.

-Rick

Should have saved the fan (4, Funny)

advocate_one (662832) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516089)

for that poor little server...

Re:Should have saved the fan (2, Funny)

Jac_no_k (5957) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516258)

and the e-mail server. "An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, whom you can also contact if the problem persists." I wonder if every failure has sent off a message.

Re:Should have saved the fan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516805)

I reloaded the page three times just in case. :-)

Get a swamp cooler (1)

vadim_t (324782) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516099)

Unless the air is really humid where you are, it'll work a lot better than a normal fan, and for pretty much the same price. If you have the luck of living in a dry climate, then it'll work really well.

Re: Butt-Ugly GUI (-1, Offtopic)

jc42 (318812) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516338)

How do I change this new butt-ugly Slashdot GUI?

Easy, but not as easy as it should be. Login, click on your id at the upper left. When that page appears, click on the Homepage link. This will bring up a page of settings. Check the Simple Design and Low Bandwidth widgets. Maybe look over the other settings. Push the Save button at the bottom.

Also, if you're using mozilla or firefox or seamonkey, you can tell it to ignore images from slashdot.org, which gets rid of most of the eye candy and some of the ads. There seems to be no information in any of /.'s imagery, so you won't miss anything. You can also find your browser's color and font config stuff, and tell it to override pages' colors and fonts and use yours.

Now you have a readable, plain-text edition of /.. The only remaining problem is the ads, but turning off all that noise is a longer essay. It helps a lot to find a way of blocking flash and javascript, and other "active" stuff with whatever browser you're using.

Now back to the topic ...

This reminds me (3, Funny)

iogan (943605) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516101)

of this [bbspot.com] fine article..

Re:This reminds me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516174)

The key difference is that the article you're linking is clearly a joke, and a fairly cute one.

The article slashdot is referencing, however, is meant to show how clever the author is.

Wait a second... that makes it exactly like half of the "Linux on the Desktop" articles I've seen here. I withdraw my objection.

Pssst... (1, Insightful)

thrill12 (711899) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516103)

...this is a secret plot to scare people away from slashdot - it all adds up:

* stage A: post dupe articles with increasing frequency to annoy regular reader
* stage B: completely re-skin slashdot to confuse reader even more
* stage C: post outright annoying articles on confusing, technically shallow subjects to scare the last bit of slashdotters away
* stage D: ????
* stage E: profit !

Mod up! Insightful, interesting, or funny? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516200)

You decide. The parent post was funnier, more insightful, and interesting than TF(L)A.

Shame on you, Hemos:=X

Re:Pssst... (1)

rAiNsT0rm (877553) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516242)

Maybe you and I are the only ones that remember hardware hacking articles that actually insired you to try them or got you to think about a new solution... but these days, we get a fan. Plugged into a PC power supply. That it is meant to run off of anyhow. To "cool" a room. Umm. All I can say is the biggest WTF ever.

This site has all but become completely useless beyond maybe 1-2 minutes of time a day. It is so shallow and lame that I've basically given up. Between Zonk's "reviews" making frontpage news that are the lowest quality pieces of writing I have ever seen, the number of stories tagged "stupid" "dupe" and "oldnews" over the past week, and this kind of crap... count me out of /.'s great unwashed horde until shit makes a major improvement.

Oh, I almost forgot. oooh, weeee they got a reader to design a new skin for the site because their talentless asses couldn't do it... that was supposed to buy them some time I guess.

Peace out /., call me when you get your heads surgically removed from your goatse.

Re:Pssst... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516915)

You forgot

* Include insipid flash-video ads to completely crush the systems of readers who are stuck on crappy boxes at work and who can't disable flash.

Speaking of hot... (1)

markild (862998) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516108)

...maybe apply the cooling to your brand new, Smoking Hot Slashdottet(tm) server?

Seriously.. When will people start posting links in coral cache or something?

Refresh? (4, Funny)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516149)

The hack seems really simple:
"Please try again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser."

I did, but I don't feel more refreshed really. What am I doing wrong?

Moderate submissions? (0, Offtopic)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516163)

Any way we can moderate this entire story into the "-1!!1111!uno!!, Stupid" category?

Simplicity of design... (2, Funny)

gedeco (696368) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516167)

...is a trademark of real genius.

This guy has made a trademark violation.

I wonder if it cools his "Technical Staff"? (1)

nachmore (922129) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516169)

ok... so it was a simple hack (the site is officially slashdotted so I can't see what he did exactly) - give him a break :)

What I want to know is whether or not it's cooling off his Technical Staff - who must be getting a slashdotted size of email!

An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, whom you can also contact if the problem persists.

Re:I wonder if it cools his "Technical Staff"? (1)

pla (258480) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516239)

ok... so it was a simple hack (the site is officially slashdotted so I can't see what he did exactly) - give him a break :)

Not having seen the page, you missed just how simple of a "hack" he did.

He plugged...

A 12cm DC fan...

Into...

A DC power supply.

Nothing more. End of hack. Still think we should cut the FP poster some slack on this one?

Re:I wonder if it cools his "Technical Staff"? (1)

nachmore (922129) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516287)

hmmm... I see your point.

Next up: How I connected my computer speakers (drum roll...) to my mp3 player so that I could listen to music without headphones!

Re:I wonder if it cools his "Technical Staff"? (1)

Freexe (717562) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516580)

I have a Samsung mp3 player (that is charged using a USB cable) and a usb speaker.

If someone could show me to get the speaker to run off the mp3 battery so I don't need my laptop about to listen to music I would be grateful.

Now you've done it.... (0)

bmo (77928) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516171)

Hemos turned Hexus into a smoking crater for no reason.

Quoth the Hexus:

"There seems to have been a problem with the database.
Please try again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser.
An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, whom you can also contact if the problem persists.
We apologise for any inconvenience."

I saw the mirrordot. Surely there is more happening in the world than this?

What about the Abandonware bill?

Re: OT:What hides behind the orphaned b
by: ColonelZen
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Sell 06/11/06 12:17 pm
Msg: 379449 of 379580

  The "Orphaned works" Bill HR5439;
hhhttp://www.techlawjournal.com/topstories/2006/20 060522.asp

No possible doubt it's an end run on the GPL:

"The bill also imposes an almost complete ban on injunctive relief where the infringer "recasts, transforms, adapts, or integrates the infringed work with the infringer's original expression in a new work of authorship". The bill provides that in these situations, "the court may not, in granting injunctive relief, restrain the infringer's continued preparation or use of that new work, if the infringer ... pays reasonable compensation ..."

IOW if MS claims that they tried to contact you while you were on vacation and you didn't respond, they get to embrace and extend your code forever for ten dollars that somehow got lost in the mail.

It's been a while since I've read the articles of the Berne Convention, but this seems to contravene one section I recall as making it plain that you do NOT lose your rights if you publish anonymously. As I read this article you can easily lose your rights to a work - certainly your right to the integrity of your work - almost instantly if published anonymously.

Thanks for bringing this up inymical!

-- TWZ

Linux Hack (1)

Another IT Grunt (981199) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516172)

Thats nothin.. I have my smb server set up to all of the heating controls in my apt building. I can make it snow or rain whenever I want.... I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD...

Re:Linux Hack (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516211)

I have my smb server set up to all of the heating controls in my apt building. I can make it snow or rain whenever I want...

Like Gremlins 2.

Re:Linux Hack (1)

42Penguins (861511) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516320)

I know a certain Al Gore that would like to make a documentary about you.

Re:Linux Hack (1)

Another IT Grunt (981199) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516474)

He already sent his lawyers after me and forced me to pay royalties or to cease and desist any further use of the "Gore Weather Energy Efficiency Domination Opperations (GWEEDO). It took me some time to hack his system and set up a keystroke logger and hack his system. It was after all really his idea.

Obligatory (0, Offtopic)

LDMackSAE (888394) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516188)

I for one welcome our new /. overlords.
                                            - Article server

Wake Up Editors!!! (0, Offtopic)

un1xl0ser (575642) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516189)

Seriously. Did anyone read this before they posted it? This article is so bad, it hurts.

Now that we have solved the biggest problem facing /. (mainly how ugly it was), can we work on the remaining problems?

Maybe... (1)

Il128 (467312) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516201)

Someone just wanted to /. the site? "There seems to have been a problem with the database. Please try again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser. An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, whom you can also contact if the problem persists. We apologise for any inconvenience."

WTF?! (1)

Solokron (198043) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516236)

His room should receive all the heat from the computers that wasted time loading that article. Your little fan won't help you now! Fry!!!

Not very interesting (2, Interesting)

ajs318 (655362) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516243)

What would be better, would be to modify a mobile air conditioner so it actually worked!

The problem with most mobile ACs is that there is only one vent pipe, which discharges the air that has been used to cool the condenser outside -- the condenser-cooling intake is in the room. So this means there is a continuous flow of air out of the room ..... and so, what with the pressure in a fluid acting equally in all directions, a continuous flow of air into the room. This is likely to be warmer than you want {if it wasn't a hot day, then you wouldn't have the AC on in the first place} and also, some of that air you just spent good money cooling is being heated up and blasted outside! Better would be to have a coaxial arrangement like a gas boiler flue, where the {hot} exhaust pipe is actually mounted inside the {cool} intake pipe. Then the arrangement would work more like a "fixed" air conditioner, since the condenser-cooling airstream would be entirely separate from the evaporator-heating {or, if you prefer, room-cooling} airstream.

You probably could do all this with Peltier Effect devices {dry heat pumps}. In which case, you would need to attach two lumps of metal with large surface areas {heat sinks from your nearest electronic components store fit this description nicely .....}, one to each side of the device; separate them by means of the best thermal insulation you can get, and blow fans over each. Circulate air from the room over the cold side, and air from outdoors over the hot side. You will also need to shut off the current every so often, in order to allow the cold side to de-ice.

Attempting real discussion... (3, Interesting)

tweakt (325224) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516250)

In the hopes of salvaging this discussion (TFA is a non-story)

Has anyone tried one of these? The priciples behind it make sense:
http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/product/ sku__SI758SL2 [sharperimage.com]

And since hearing about this development:
http://www.stanfordalumni.org/news/magazine/2005/j ulaug/features/cool.html [stanfordalumni.org]

It makes even more sense, though a neck-worn device is more practical for mobile usage.

Re:Attempting real discussion... (1)

igaborf (69869) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516790)

I saw a commercial for this just yesterday. I'm inclined to be skeptical of anything [sharperimage.com] from The Sharper Image, but there may be some value to this. I've noticed when I get really hot on a bike ride, a small amount of cool water on the back of my neck does wonders for my whole body.

But that thing looks [i]really[/i] uncomfortable to wear, I have to say. Even in the commercial, which was no doubt shot to make the device look as good as possible, it looks annoying, not to say dorky. (Okay, dorky.) I think I'll pass.

Re:Attempting real discussion... (3, Interesting)

MrDoh1 (906953) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516826)

I have a "Personal Cooler" from Sharper Image, though it is about 5yrs old. Looking at the picture on their site it doesn't look like they've changed it much. (But I don't know that for a fact so this all refers to my little bit older one.)

My review: Like most other things that Sharper Image sells, save your money!

I've used it (or tried to) while walking, while mowing, while working in the yard and in a few other instances, some during leisure, some during manual labor.

First, I'm not a very large guy. My neck is pretty small in diameter. The thing doesn't hold on tight enough for my neck and it ends up sliding around or facing completely backwards and falling off before I can grab it. This happens much more frequently as you get hot and sweat more. Forget wearing it to play sports.

Here in SE Texas, I can't even tell I am wearing it. The metal plate that contacts my neck becomes just as hot as I am in a very short amount of time and you can't tell there is any kind of cooling effect from it at all, save for the first couple of minutes you put it on until the metal plate gets to your temperature. (And trust me, this doesn't take long!)

If it's like it used to be, you put water into a hole in it and a sponge soaked the water up in an attempt to keep it from spilling. Well, just a little too much water and this little water retention system ends up cooling you off inadvertently because it spills all over you. (Hey, at least it has the potential to cool you off, at least a little, somehow.)

At least on mine, the little fan that spins that is suppose to help provide the evaporative cooling is so weak that I can put my hands over the little vent and barely tell if there is any air moving at all, though its close enough to my ears that I can hear it unless I'm doing something that makes a lot of noise.

I think it could be made to work, if they have not gotten the kinks out already. The fan needs to be larger and more powerful, there needs to be a real way to contain the water and there has to be some way it can stay on anyones neck, regardless of their size. The principles involved seem sound, it's the implementation that needs work.


As for the other link (didn't read TFL, just looked at the pictures), I haven't seen one of those before, but based on previous experience with similar methods, I believe that it is also based on sound principles. As an ex-firefighter in hot Florida I can tell you when we needed to cool off fast the best thing to do was run cool/cold water over your wrists. This helped with evaporative cooling on the skin, and if you are skinny like me with large veins close to the surface, it also might cool the blood itself a little.

Re:Attempting real discussion... (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516931)

I worked in a Sharper Image retail store for two years (in NC, hot summers). We'd sell those only if the customer absolutely demanded to buy it. They were clunky feeling, "worked" in that it made your neck cold, but didn't work because that only makes your neck cold and doesn't cool you off. They were almost definite returns, and I believe that the people that didn't return them just threw them in a closet and didn't bother.

Here's some more general advice about TSI: 90% crap. Look at a product and think to yourself, is this really outside the 90% rule? Really?

Re:Attempting real discussion... (1)

schlick (73861) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517148)

That research by Stanford is interesting, but I'd like to understand why a $4000 gadget is preferable to sticking you hand is a bucket of ice water.

Don't post... it's a trap (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516263)

I just has to be. I can't see any value in the article except to lure out those foolish enough to respond... ... like me... dammit.

*THE* Solution... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15516285)

...is to plug in a fan?! WTF?!

Heat? Where? (1)

Eggplant62 (120514) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516339)

As I sit here in my living room, windows closed and heat turned on, the outside temperature is a chilly 57 degress at 9 am on a Monday morning in Detroit. Normal temps about this time of day and year would be 20 degrees higher. The last thing I'm worried about is my machines overheating.

Slashvertisement (1)

neuroPuff (923273) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516344)

When reading the submission, I was immediately phased with it being more along the lines of shoddy advertising. Tech tips are one thing, but the "ultimate" solution to cooling is Icy-Flo?

Stupidest Article I've read on Slashdot yet (2, Funny)

noc007 (633443) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516358)

Granted, there are some stupid articles that make their way through the approval process, but this one takes the cake. Many people before this guy, including myself, have done something similar to get some air moving with parts laying around and not have to make a trip to WallyWorld (WalMart) to buy a fan. However up to this point, no one has had the audacity to post up something this stupid.

Damn it. I want my click back.

Why can't we Mod submissions? (0, Offtopic)

wyoung76 (764124) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516379)

Or is this what the tags feature is supposed to allow us to do?

I can't believe I wasted time looking at this. At least give us something to justify this...

I did this with the thermostat to my ac (1)

saboola (655522) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516434)

When I first got my air conditioner, it was set at a factory default of like 76 degrees. With a little savvy hacking on my part I was able to bring it down to about 74 by pressing the down arrow. I will have a full 10 page blog posting up in a few days so look out for it! For my next project I plan on doing the same thing, but in my car!

A less lame cooling solution (1)

dmatos (232892) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516711)

Someone at the University of Waterloo made their own "air conditioner [uwaterloo.ca]" last year.

Granted, the CoP is probably miles worse than that of a normal heat-engine based A/C, especially when you consider the energy costs of freezing the ice, but . . .

In case of slashdotting, this is what he did:

Fill a bucket with icewater
Put a coil of copper tubing on the back of a fan
Use rubber hosing to connect the copper tubing to the bucket of icewater
Use a 2nd piece of hose between the copper tubing & the window
Siphon action pulls the cool water through the copper tube & drains it out the window
Fan moves air over the cold copper tubing

If you're not paying utilities, you could even do this with just cold tapwater, in your own home. Or, harvest the waste water for your garden, filling toilet tanks, or whatever!

Homebrew Air Conditioning (1)

edbob (960004) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516780)

At least this [slashdot.org] took some effort. I thought that he would at least use the water cooling to provide some extra cooling. This is just a fan. You can buy a regular fan in the store for about $5. For a little more, you can even get oscillation!

am I missing something? (1)

adrenalinerush (518023) | more than 7 years ago | (#15516806)

Since it's slashdotted, you can check it out at MirrorDot [mirrordot.org].

But I'll save you the hassle and summarize it for you: he takes a 12cm case fan from an old watercooling rig (just uses the fan, not the water cooling bits) and powers it from the 12V pin of the power supply of an Icy Box hard drive enclosure.

Wow.

Lest you think that the Icy Box is actually doing any cooling, it's not. It's just providing power.

Now why did this make the front page of /.?

Cooling w/o AC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517067)

The one last year(IIRC) with the guy(Canadian?) who got a garbage can of ice water, and some copper tubing which he coiled behind a regular box fan was better. I really can't see hwo this one would produce enough cooling to be worthwhile.

Re:Cooling w/o AC (1)

markov_chain (202465) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517324)

I tried that, it doesn't work very well. The problem is that the surface area of the copper tubing is far too small; if you look at even a cheap AC unit's radiator you will get an idea of how inadequate the tubing is.

More evidence our uber hacker is really... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517410)

This guy gives new meaning to Sun-Tzu's loosely-quoted, "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer".

Note his placement of the 120mm 12v fan- on top of hard drive.

That is to say, the EMI/RFI output from the fan WILL cause data loss.

More evidence our uber hacker is really a lazy moron living in a day dream of self delusion.

What he needs is more power... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517436)

Back in college, we took an oversized dorm fridge and removed the door from it. We then removed the window from its frame and somehow crammed the fridge into the opening. (Yes we lost our deposit on this one...) We sealed the edges with duct tape and stuffed a couple of fans inside the fridge. When we turned it on, it managed to cool the room by almost ten degrees.

The only drawback is that the beer got warm.
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