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The DS Lite U.S. Launch

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the shiny-white-hard-not-to-like dept.

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Yesterday Nintendo began selling the upgraded version of their popular DS handheld system, and by all accounts sales are going very well. 1up has a look at the story of the DS so far, from somewhat rocky launch up through this last amazing Christmas season. From the article: "Nintendo had lost its collective mind. At least, that's how it looked back in January 2004 when the company announced its latest system, the DS. 'We have developed Nintendo DS based upon a completely different concept from existing game devices in order to provide players with a unique entertainment experience for the 21st century,' company president Satoru Iwata stated--a bold proclamation. But few were buying it." PC Magazine has details on what was upgraded, and Engadget has pictures from the NYC launch party.

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revised version! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517379)

fp, lite!

DS Launch in Canada (4, Interesting)

scrabbleguy (980944) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517398)

I live in Toronto and the stores here open on Sunday at 12:00 noon. Not having pre-ordered a DS Lite I left at 12:10 to go buy one. I needed to go to 4 different stores before I found a store that was completely sold out. And every store I went to had about 5 other people asking if they could buy a DS Lite.

If that's how the early morning went, I can't imagine how the rest of the day went. Sounds like a pretty successful launch for a product revision.

Re:DS Launch in Canada (3, Informative)

NightRain (144349) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517434)

They were launched here in Australia at the beginning of the month, and my wife and I walked in to the store after lunch, not even being aware that it was a launch day or that the DS was anything special (I'm not really up on Nintendo portables). We ended up just picking one up off the shelf though and buying it for a present for a friend.

There were no lines or stock shortages that I saw...

Re:DS Launch in Canada (1)

jbrader (697703) | more than 7 years ago | (#15520047)

Hmmm... Could this be hard evidence that Australia is less nerdy than Canada?

Time will tell.

Re:DS Launch in Canada (1)

denisbergeron (197036) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517498)

In Montréal, Zellers open at 9h00 I was there at 9h30 get the 4th one :-P
The EbGames open at 10h, I walk in front of the store 10 minutes before the opening I show my ds lite at the staff waiting to enter :->

Re:DS Launch in Canada (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517902)

Umm, that's really just kinda sad.

Re:DS Launch in Canada (1)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517801)

I went to a local Wal-Mart, but the staff were too lazy and incompetent (example: typing in "DS Lite Sistem" into a computer screen doesn't help bring it up) to look. So I did the Sears pickup thing - 1'15" after walking into the Sears pick up department, I had my DS Lite.

It's a lovely thing - just showed some go workers "Big Brain Academy" - took half an hour before they could give it back ;).

Re:DS Launch in Canada (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15518602)

the staff were too lazy and incompetent (example: typing in "DS Lite Sistem" into a computer screen doesn't help bring it up)

Were you to lazy or incompetent to spell "system" properly?

Re:DS Launch in Canada (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517851)

You went to the wrong store, dude.

I went to the Best Buy on Leslie at around 1 pm and they had 5 or 6 of them sitting there, and no-one in the store other than me seemed interested.

Re:DS Launch in Canada (1)

MrJynxx (902913) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517868)

Strange, I went into Bestbuy out in the suburbs (Brampton) and walked in and saw they had a bunch of the lite's kicking around. So I picked one up with no problems at all :)

That being said I currently own a PSP and my bro has the regular DS. Yea, let's just say I haven't touched my PSP since my bro got his DS and the DS Lite is a huge step forward for this platform. When comparing the two systems the Lite is so much better I can't believe the old DS and the new one are the same price!

I doubt anyone in their right mind would buy a regular DS now that the Lite is out.

MrJynxx

Re:DS Launch in Canada (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518606)

I'm in North Carolina and my brother and I headed to a bix box store when they opened at 8AM on Sunday and snagged two of the forty they had in stock. We weren't even the first ones there, people had actually lined up outside the store before it opened.

Now the wait begins (1)

whoop (194) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517405)

... for the other colors. Bright white? Come on Nintendo, come with the pretty DSLites!

Re:Now the wait begins for the web (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15520269)

I am waiting for the DS Browser (aka Opera DS), but no release date has been set outside of Japan. *sighs* ... would make the DS one of the cheapest portable webbrowsers... now if only if it offered, also PuTTy too.

Double Two Horse Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517443)

This is going to be a crazy five years come November.

I don't think we have ever seen a double race like this before in the console market:

1) Sony PSP vs Nintendo DS

2) Nintendo Revolution vs Sony PS3

Now that Microsoft and the 360 are have pretty much flunked out of the console race and their handheld gaming device is just vapor, the console world is back to the good old days of two competent competitors going at it.

Sony sounds like they have some very cool PSPPS3 connectivity stuff in the works with music and games being able to be downloaded onto the PSP.

And Nintendo always is coming up with crazy ways to use their handhelds with their home systems.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517476)

The Wii won't compete directly with the PS3 and it won't be a deathmatch. Sorry.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (1)

entmike (469980) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517564)

How about you back up your claims with some actual source? 360 flunking out of the console race? Go back under your bridge.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517610)

Uhh...

The 360 has without question flunked out of the console race in Japan.

The 360 appears to be flunking out of the console race in Europe with a pathetic 600-700k or so sold after seven months.

And most humiliating of all:

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/12/ 1438225 [slashdot.org]

Not only is the 360 selling worse than the first Xbox, it isn't even on track to match Dreamcast numbers. You have to go all the way back to the 3DO or CDi for a system that sold worse than the 360.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15518003)

the 360... isn't even on track to match Dreamcast numbers

I think you're just making that up. The only hard numbers I can find about the Dreamcast launch is that they sold 500,000 in America in two weeks; the 360 on the other hand sold 900,000 in America in the first six. I can't tell which did better at launch, but the Dreamcast isn't an unambiguous winner from what I see.

Meanwhile, the Dreamcast sold 10 million systems ever. Microsoft insists that they will have sold 10 million systems by the end of this year. I personally doubt they'll get that high that quickly, but they seem to think they will, and if they do they'll have far outdone the PS3 in sales.

Why do you say the 360 has yet to outpace the Dreamcast? Do you have some source for numbers I haven't seen? Do you actually know how many systems the Dreamcast had sold by the time the PS2 launched? Was it more than 2-3 million, which is how many the 360 has sold so far as of mid-2006? Or are you just making stuff up because you want to make the 360 look bad?

Re:Double Two Horse Race (1)

nickheart (557603) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518226)

500000 / 2 weeks = 250000 per week average.

900000 / 6 weeks = 150000 per week average.

Just my guess.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15518409)

Doesn't work that way. Video games and consoles have a tendency to sell best when they're very first released, and if I'm not mistaken the biggest XBox 360 shipment of last year was on the very first day. You can't compare on averages the way you're doing, because for all we know 500,000 of the 360's 900,000 2005 U.S. sales were in the first week.

Meanwhile, that's just the first few weeks. That was a good six months ago in the 360's case, and a lot has happened since then. If you want to establish the DC sold better than the 360 you need to find some actual evidence.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (1)

entmike (469980) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519935)

You do realize that the Japanese and European market's adoption rate of a console != it's success rate? Neither does the US. You can site individual nation's adoption rate of the console until your face turns blue but that doesn't mean anything.

And so what that the PS2 is outselling the XBOX360? The PS2 has reached bargain bin status in pricing per unit. The PS2 has a terrific back catalogue of titles and doubles as a decent DVD Player for the consumer's assumed 25 inch television.

Additionally, maybe you should RTFA you linked:


"I should note that we caution against putting too much weight on these sales estimates, especially in a comparative sense. The PS2 and the Xbox 360 are at opposite ends of their 'console lifecycles,' and the two are priced quite far apart as well (e.g., $129 vs. $299, PS2, Xbox 360 Core respectively). We are impressed, however, by the PS2's continually strong sales, even as many gamers turn their eyes towards the next-generation. These sales will help keep Sony strong and stable, even in the face of a disappointing PlayStation 3 launch, should fate take that turn."

Re:Double Two Horse Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15520177)

You can site individual nation's adoption rate of the console until your face turns blue but that doesn't mean anything.

The idea is that the only way you can possibly interpret the XBox 360 as anything other than an unambiguous failure is if you look at the individual nation adoption rate in the U.S.. The U.S. is the only place where the 360 is a serious contender at all.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (1)

ZakuSage (874456) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518576)

I'm never a Microsoft supporter, but there is no way you could just rule them out at this point. They have billions to just flood into it. I doubt they have any way of becoming #1 in this race, but that does not mean they don't matter.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (1)

rAiNsT0rm (877553) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519263)

Actually much more capable handhelds have tried and have never got the formula right. This market has nothing to do with masive amounts of money being thrown at it, in fact, that is precisely what Sony tried to do with the PSP and has been slowly fading since.

The Korean GP32 and the Wonderswan were the two handhelds that had some potential, but didn't make it.

Microsoft has no chance IMO, simply because they rely on DirectX and their API's for everything. Nintendo is able to fall back on a whole other platform with their handhelds and have a long history to pull knowledge and design from. To me, 3D is NOT what a handheld is about and for the most part the DS proves this. The majority of AAA titles are 2D and a few utilize some 3D but in basic and intuitive ways.

I actually believe the DS would be better if it were only 1 slightly larger screen with the touchscreen functionality. Basics are what sells in handhelds: plain/simple/fun/quick. Microsoft can't do basics.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15519414)

a) You do realize he's talking about 360, not a handheld.
b) Only fools think PSP is "fading out". It's an amazing success, and no other handheld has done as well against Nintendo, with plenty of and more great games on the way. I'm tired of having this argument with dillusional Nintendrones.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (1)

rAiNsT0rm (877553) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519593)

Oh, my mistake... I thought the large number of press releases stating the companies who will no longer be producing UMD versions of their films, the total lack of quality games and the glacially slow release schedule, as well as the NPD retail sales numbers showing it lagging and slowing monthly were good indicators. I'm actually not a huge Nintendo fan, and regardless of what the OP was stating, my statement stands: I'm tired of people thinking that MS can win at anything by simply throwing enough money at the problem.

That is NOT how things work, and it is that mentaility and the large number of morons who gladly accept it that cause the problem in the first place.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15520859)

10:1 in Japan. TEN to ONE. And 4 to one overall. You know, where 95%+ of the games you buy a playstation for are made.

And effectively even sales in the states.
And burdened by the utter failure of UMD as a movie format.
And it costs more to develop for.
And it's more expensive.
And it has a glacially slow release schedule.
And it only has a handful of AAA exclusive titles, most of it's library is typical PS suckage.
And it's software basically doesn't sell(no > 1 million seller yet, the DS has SIX in Japan alone).
And the touch generations stuff just came out here.

And neither handheld has put a real dent into the GBA yet. It's going out, but it's still the undisputed king of handheld marketing share. There's 100 million of those bastards out there.

The PSP is the freakin' Gamegear 2.0, it's really no threat to Nintendo's handheld dominance at all.

Re:Double Two Horse Race (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15520905)

Ladies and gentlemen, we have numbers being pulled out of someone's ass. As the grandparent said, only fools think the PSP is dieing.

Bought mine launch day (2, Interesting)

Forkenhoppen (16574) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517455)

It's a nice product, with some really nice bright screens. It's my first DS, so I can't really compare it to the original model, but it puts my Palm's screen to shame. Would love it to death if it weren't for the blue stuck pixel in the upper screen. I'll probably send it back to them under warranty in a few weeks, after I've had a chance to mess around with it a little.

I'm really curious what Nintendo has in store for it in combination with the Wii.

Re: Evil Blue Pixel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517595)

I had a blue pixel on my screen too. Fortunately, I was able to exchange at Best Buy without a problem.

Re:Bought mine launch day (5, Informative)

nhaines (622289) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517718)

This came up during the Nintendo DS launch in November 2004. Nintendo's offical policy on dead pixels was "We want you to be happy with our products and anything that detracts from your enjoyment is not acceptable to us. We invite you to play your DS for a day or two and see if the pixel bothers you. If you find that it is distracting, we'll ship you a new one free of charge."

If you can't exchange it at the place you purchased it, just call Nintendo Consumer Service (1-800-255-3700) as listed on the back of your DS. If you give them a credit card number as a deposit, I'm sure they'll ship you a replacement. Just open the box, grab your new DS, test it... then put your old DS back in the box, slap on the new mailing label, and drop it back in the mail.

But the point is, Nintendo Consumer Service has been superlative since as long as I can remember (1988 at least), so give them a try if the store gives you any hassles.

Re:Bought mine launch day (2, Informative)

Zigg (64962) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517895)

I know that's been their policy before, but I just called this morning for mine and advance replacement wasn't an option -- just depot repair (and they're damn fast at it, but a week is still a week).

So I guess I'll drop by the store tomorrow once I've collected my box etc., copied my WFC ID back to my old DS, and such...

Re:Bought mine launch day (1)

Redfrost (202676) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518827)

I have a permamently-on red pixel at the lower right of the bottom screen. Annoying as hell. Need to see if EB (here in Canada) will replace it.

Re:Bought mine launch day (1)

Allison Geode (598914) | more than 7 years ago | (#15520466)

My DS Lite has a dead pixel too, and its making me very angry. i'm having the urge to throw it against the wall, only then it will never be covered by the warranty, and I'd probably put a hole in the wall!

here is what nintendo's customer support page has to say about stuck pixels: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/dslite/tr ouble_spot.jsp [nintendo.com]

if you're a sucker and pre-ordered it at EB or some other boutique store, they probably won't exchange it (the eb rep told me that their warranty only covers stuck pixels if there is a clump of 5 or more, which is bullshit.) here is how you can set up a repair with nintendo: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/repair/repair_for m_us.jsp [nintendo.com]

you may need to register your serial number for the warranty to work. after filling out that form, it'll take 4-10 business days to recieve your UPS return label, and 3-4 more business days to repair it and return it.. so i guess i'll just have to play something else for the next couple weeks.

GNU/Linux for DS Lite available (0, Redundant)

drewzhrodague (606182) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517478)

Complete GNU/Linux distribution available for the DS Lite in 3... 2... 1...

woo (1)

MrSquirrel (976630) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517530)

I think I'll have to buy one of these... once they come out with more colors (*crosses fingers for black*). They're relatively cheap ($130 on NewEgg), there are some cool games for it (Zelda, Resident Evil, and of course... Tetris), it's a decent amount smaller and lighter than the regular DS, and the brightness is adjustable. Overall, it looks like a very svelte little machine -- it looks like it's a lot easier to stick in a pocket than a regular DS. I WANT, I WANT!

Anyone else not like the changes to the buttons? (1)

dividedsky319 (907852) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517539)

One of the things I like about the DS is its buttons... I like the way the buttons and the D-pad "click" when you push them down.

I tried the DS Lite at the store, and I didn't like the way they changed the buttons... they don't have that "click" anymore, that's the best way I can explain it. Maybe it's something I'd get used to, but I didn't really like it.

Re:Anyone else not like the changes to the buttons (1)

Bagels (676159) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517911)

Actually, a lot of people complained about precisely that same "clickiness" with the original DS, which is why they made the change - the new controls are supposed to be more in line with the GB Micro and past systems like the SNES.

Re:Anyone else not like the changes to the buttons (1)

PeelBoy (34769) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519404)

Yeah. You're right, but I wish they hadn't changed it. I liked the clickyness. The GBA:SP (or atleast my newer one) has it too.

The new buttons just feel mushy in comparison. I don't like it at all. It doesn't feel as clean.

Best Way to Protect your DS Screen (5, Informative)

GenmaKun (821817) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517544)

My wife just upgraded her DS to a DS Lite. On the DS we started out with one of the Nintendo screen protectors, but it quickly got scratched up to where you could not see the lower screen through the mess.

To solve the problem we simply bought some high quality Palm Pilot screen protectors, then cut this to the right dimensions for the DS. It works flawlessly with the DS and the stylus, and looks better after use than the Nintendo protectors do new. This pad hardly shows marks at all, even after playing stylus intensive games. They are less than $1 each at your local office supply store.

Yesterday we picked up a DS Lite and the first thing we did was throw a Palm protector onto the screen. Works like a charm.

Re:Best Way to Protect your DS Screen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15517670)

I don't know anyone who puts a protective cover on their DS screen. I also haven't heard anyone complain about scratches. Were you playing with your car keys instead of the stylus?

Re:Best Way to Protect your DS Screen (1)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517933)

I put a protector on mine, since I have young children who tend to like to play with it. On the Lite, since that's "Daddy only", I think I should be all right.

Re:Best Way to Protect your DS Screen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15518329)

your sig should say, "people pay for movies?"

Re:Best Way to Protect your DS Screen (5, Insightful)

laxcat (600727) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517700)

I know most techies get really protective of their gadgets, but I've been rockin' my DS Fat since launch with no lower screen protection whatsoever, and I still have no visible damage. The screen tends to get a little greasy from games that encourage you to just use your finger, but that's the only real loss in visibility, and is obviously easily remedied every once in a while.

The screen was built to be touched, and while I can't speak for sure for the new Lites (I can't imagine otherwise), you'll have the best, most visible experience just using the product as it was designed.

Take a deep breath! Take that cloudy plastic off! This is game system, after all. It's no fun if you're stressed about keeping it pristine for the next ten years.

Re:Best Way to Protect your DS Screen (2, Interesting)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518456)

I was actually starting to get screen scratches, so I bought a protector before it got too bad. You can trust me when I say that I take care of my stuff.

I keep my systems for a long time, and I'm not rich. $5 at the Nintendo World Store is worth the piece of mind as I go to town in Metroid.

Remember, it's not the stylus that scratches... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15519067)

It's not the stylus that scratches your screen, it's the DIRT being pushed around on the screen by the stylus. The dirt is what scratches the screen. Keep the screen clean and you'll have zero need for any protective layer beyond the layer Nintendo already put on the system.

Re:Remember, it's not the stylus that scratches... (1)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 7 years ago | (#15520309)

I'll tell you what, no level of anality is going to keep all dirt and dust off that screen. It's a fact of life. I keep my systems as clean as humanly possible, but small scratches formed. While I was playing metroid I noticed with such a demanding and mostly blind use of the touch screen that my hand would accidentally slide toward the touch screen. Rather than take the risk of more serious fingernail damage, I bought a five dollar procector, licensed by Nintendo.

I bet Ben Rothlisberger wishes he took a similar precautionary step. Hyperbole, I know. I just wanted to laugh at his idiocy.

Re:Best Way to Protect your DS Screen (1)

kcbanner (929309) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518844)

I heard once using wood polish on these type of screens to fill in the scratches. Disclaimer: I hold NO respnsibilty for anyone doing this.

Re:Best Way to Protect your DS Screen (2, Informative)

BigCheese (47608) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519148)

I've got some stuff made for LCD screens that cleans the screen and fills in the tiny scratches. I don't remember the name and I'm at work.

There are a lot of LCD screen restorers out there. They all should work.

Screen *Protector* gets scratched (1)

X-wes (629917) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519494)

I think it's worth pointing out that the parent poster has had the bottom screen protector scratched up very badly. With everyone that I know, including a family where three people share a DS (for about a constant 7 hours of use a day between them--yes, they're gaming nerds), there has been no damage at all to the bottom screen using fingers or the stylus.

Admittedly, if you wanted to, I'm sure you could damage it if you tried, but I'm fairly sure the screen wasn't built to withstand extended play using a steak knife as a stylus, for example.

Re:Best Way to Protect your DS Screen (1)

joshsisk (161347) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517898)

As others have stated, I've had my DS for about 6 months and play regularly, with no scree protector, and have no scratches. I bought my girlfriend one the same day, and she plays hers 2x as much as me, and hers is fine too. I don't think you need a screen protector, unless perhaps you have young kids.

I've not been this hopped up for a console in ages (2, Insightful)

Rachel Lucid (964267) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517549)

After both my brother (PSP) and sister (DS) have apparently succumbed to the mobile craze, I'm ready to take the leap in with 'em with the DS Lite.

I fell in love with this trimmed-down tricked-out console the instant I saw one of my classmates in college playing an imported version, and the only thing holding me back now is the promise of ice blue DS Lites.

While it'll be a shame to have to pass up Ratchet: Size Matters, the point remains that Insomniac does not a console make, especially when the console in question is a $250 brick versus a console that can also default into your home media player.

The Nintendo DS Lite Color (1)

Tado (981906) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517616)

I just got done reading some of the comments here below about the color. I also agree that white is not exactly the "pretty color" I would choose for the new DS Lite. However it is a classic color aside from the gray that all Nintendo's start out with. I would however would be extreamly impressed if they released a black soild color version of the DS.

Re:The Nintendo DS Lite Color (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518565)

I would however would be extreamly impressed if they released a black soild color version of the DS.

The exchange rate's a bugger, but you could buy one from the UK. They're out on June 23rd.

Black DS Lite (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518753)

FWIW, if you want to order one, Amazon [amazon.co.uk] have 'em for £100. Personally, I've got a lovely black mp3 player which I carry around pretty well everywhere, so I've ordered the white DS just for a nice bit of contrast. Plus, I don't want to look like I'm playing on a PSP...

stuck pixelies (1)

cinderful (586168) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517679)

I got mine last week, from a friend of a friend who works at Nintendo.

Sadly, I opened it to find two stuck pixels (red and green)
Apparently, Nintendo won't replace the unit unless there are three or more.

Anyone know how to 'stick' a pixel . . ? :)

Re:stuck pixelies (1)

majortom1981 (949402) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517722)

Try pressing on the screen on them. Till ou ge that rainbow effect. I did that on my original ds and it unstuck them. DOnt press hard enough to break the screen though.

Re:stuck pixelies (3, Informative)

tuffy (10202) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517974)

Apparently, Nintendo won't replace the unit unless there are three or more.

Where did you get that information? At the original DS' launch, any stuck pixel was enough to merit a replacement under Nintendo's 1 year warranty. Give them a call on their 1-800 number and see if they'll get you a replacement unit.

Re:stuck pixelies (4, Insightful)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518154)

Not so, Nintendo will repair (not replace) a DS Lite with even one dead pixel. I should know, my prepaid UPS label for sending my DS Lite in for repair is on its way.

From the Nintendo DS Lite Customer Service Page:

White (or Other Color) Dot on the Screen
With a small number of Nintendo DS screens, one or two dots on the screen may appear to be "stuck" on a particular color, such as white or red. This effect is caused when a particular pixel (the dots that make up the screen) is not working properly. Even with the high quality standards set by LCD manufacturers, you will find this situation is common in many LCD devices (PC monitors, televisions, cell phones, etc.), and is within LCD manufacturers' specifications.

It's important to understand that this issue will remain limited to the pixels you have already noticed. The problem will not get any worse and you should not expect to see the problem in any other areas of the screen.
We suggest you use your system for a few weeks to determine whether this interferes with your enjoyment of game play. If, after using your system for awhile, you feel that this tiny dot is too distracting, the Nintendo DS Lite does carry a one-year warranty. We are happy to inspect and, if necessary, fix your system at no charge within the warranty period.

It's a tight little unit (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517795)

I picked up the last one in stock at a Game Crazy (Hollywood Video's game store-in-a-store) at 6pm yesterday after trying maybe three places. I picked up copies of Brain Age, Sprung (dating sim) and Worms. I haven't owned a Nintendo handheld since the Gameboy Color and I was very impressed with the build quality and the brightness of the screen. It reminds me of a miniaturized version of my 12-inch iBook G4, which I just sold, so there's already some nostalgic attachment right there. Once Opera is released for the DS, the DS lite will fill an important niche in my computing spectrum (MB Pro for work/home, XBox 360 for games, Linux fileserver & DS Lite for quick 'n easy games in bed or on the go).

hmmm but.. (1)

carlosGames (943841) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517806)

is it there any difference between this system and the DS lite version being sold in japan since some months ago? I've heard some ppl have been getting japanesse versions through the internet :)

Re:hmmm but.. (2, Informative)

AudioEfex (637163) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518637)

The only difference is color. U.S. has "polar white" only right now, whereas Japan has white, light blue, and dark navy blue, and the upcoming Euro release will be Jet Black.

At first I thought that was a reason to import one (they run about $200ish on eBay), but I'm glad I decided against it and just went for the US model. While asthetically I might have prefered black or the dark navy, the new slick finish is great but it takes fingerprints like nobody's business. Since I keep a sunglasses shami around to clean the screens anyway it's not a huge problem, but on the white you can't see them unless you hold it up to a light and really look for them. I have a friend who imported one of the dark navy ones and the fingerprints show up much more. It'd be a nightmare if you are OCD like me and would be cleaning it every time you sat it down.

That said, it's the best purchase I've made in a long time. I am so totally floored by the quality of the screens...games that I finished long ago (Super Princess Peach, Mario and Luigi : Partners In Time) look like brand new games. The colors are incredibly vibrant (the yellows and greens that were there the whole time but I never saw astounded me), and the backgrounds pop out and the detail is so much more apparent. I never really wanted to admit that I noticed it before, but the regular DS has very muddy looking screens. I'm only running on brightness level 3 (out of 4) and it's literally like night and day when comparing side-by-side with the normal DS.

Thankfully, I've found a use for my old one - it's going to keep Brain Age in my living room where I can access it easily when watching TV and such; now when people visit I'll be able to play the great two-player games (that, thankfully, only require one cart unlike the old days where everyone needed their own copy) with them instead of telling them how if they bought one we could play together.

AE

Re:hmmm but.. (1)

joshsisk (161347) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518994)

The only difference is color.

I have also read that import DS units will not allow you to connect to in-store kiosks. (Game stores have kiosks that let you download demos wirelessly to your DS). However, since I've never done that even with my non-import DS, that's no biggie.

Re:hmmm but.. (2, Informative)

PeelBoy (34769) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519457)

There might also be a problem with speach in games like Brain Age.. Saying the word "blue" doesn't work well, etc..

Also importing voides your warranty.

Other than that there is no difference that I know of. Every game works, and you can swtich the language back to English.

Re:hmmm but.. (1)

AudioEfex (637163) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519797)

I've played Brain Age and it's fine - the microphone hardware doesn't care what language you speak in, LOL. ;-) It's the reigon of the game you play that is.

As to voiding your warranty, you are absolutely correct and that was something I meant to mention in my original reply. That was the other deciding factor for me, and could end up being very important.

AE

Re:hmmm but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15519595)

I don't think that is correct. The DS models are exactly the same around the world, no different game regions or smiliar annoying things.

Absolutely Wonderful! (1)

Quaoar (614366) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517878)

This is the best portable console that has EVER been released. I could not be happier with it. It's cheap, there's a ton of games, the battery lasts a long time, the screens are bright, and the colors are vibrant. Nintendo really did a great job with this one.

Got mine yesterday! (1)

The Joe Kewl (532609) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517925)

I went to Circuit City at 10am (opening) yesterday, and picked mine up. Also picked up 4 games (Brain Age, Tetris DS, Mario Kart, Super Mario DS). I would not have bought so many, but I had a few gift cards to various stores. I was surprised when I went to Best Buy late in the afternoon that there were still a couple DS Lite's sitting on the shelves considering the number of people who were at Circuit City buying one in the morning.

Having never played the Fat DS, I am very impressed with the games, and some of the unique control methods that the touchscreen allows for. I keep having to fight with my girlfriend to get some playing time, as she is addicted soduko (comes with Brain Age).

I am probably going to end up having to buy her one so I can actually play mine.

Re:Got mine yesterday! (1)

BigCheese (47608) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519183)

I haven't gotten Brain Age back from my wife. She's addicted to Sudoku too.

Hope is on the way though. There are 2 Soduku games for the DS being released toward the end of this month. I figure if I get both of them I'm guaranteed to be able to play one of them.

Oh yes, Tetris DS is the best one ever. My previous favorite was the Nintendo one for the NES.

Re:Got mine yesterday! (1)

PeelBoy (34769) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519518)

The Sudoku game I heard about has something like 400 puzzles hand picked by the original creators so it is probably worth looking forward to.

Re:Got mine yesterday! (1)

PeelBoy (34769) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519493)

I HIGHTLY suggest you go buy Kirby Canvas Curse, Meteos and Metroid Prime: Hunters.

All of those games make great use of the stylus. Kirby Canvas Cruse and Meteos are played only with the stylus and they are GREAT.

Meteos is a fast paced tetris style puzzle game so if you're not into those don't bother (but it's the best I've ever played).

Kirby Canvas Curse is a MUST HAVE in my opinion.

Now it REALLY reminds me of the Game and Watch... (1)

Hamster Lover (558288) | more than 7 years ago | (#15517956)

Just saw one in Zellers here in Canada. Remember those Game and Watch dual LCD screen games (Donkey Kong)? Well, that's what the DS Lite more closely resembles in its new form factor: smaller, lighter, and crap are the new screens bright! It is easier to hold, but the buttons do feel mushier and don't "click" as much as the original DS buttons. The power button has been moved to side, thank god, where it should have been in the first place and the cosmetics are much improved. The white case is very sexy.

I can't emphasize just how bright the new screens are. I actually turned the brightness down a notch or two while playing with one in the brightly lit store. That's fairly impressive.

Fragile. (1)

Nightspirit (846159) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518110)

Just took back my DS and got a DS lite. So far I like most of the changes. However, the DS lite feels more rickity to me, the buttons are not set as much as the regular DS, and it just feels like it is more fragile. I'll just have to be a bit more careful I guess.

Re:Fragile. (2, Insightful)

rAiNsT0rm (877553) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518457)

At the EB near my house, they have already gone through 3 DS Lites replacing broken ones. On was a D-Pad that was DOA, and the other two were cracked casings... so apparently they are fragile. The manager said that both of their in-store demo units had been cracked within hours too, which was the first I had heard of this.

I don't really like the mushy buttons and smaller size, but I LOVE the screens, the new stylus, the layout, and a few other bonuses.

So now I am torn, after hearing of some issues, and my few complaints, I'm probably going to hold out for a bit longer just to see.

Awesome console (1)

punkr0x (945364) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518136)

I got mine at Best Buy a little after opening on sunday (I dunno how many they had, they didn't even have a display set up. The guy had to go get it from the stock room) and New Super Mario Brothers. Not having played the Fat DS, I'm impressed with this little system. And I don't mind the white, matches my iPod! ;)

I'll be getting one of these for one reason... (1)

Digital Vomit (891734) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518184)

I'll be getting one of these for one reason only: New Super Mario Bros.! It's about time they come out with another 2D platformer Mario game.

Summary: WORTH IT. (1)

GregNorc (801858) | more than 7 years ago | (#15518614)

I picked mine up yesterday... no interesting journey stories to tell though, I pre-ordered mine the day the USA release date was announced.

One thing I like is the new brightness settings. There are four, the lowest being equivalent to the old DS's screen. On just the second highest setting colors are very vibrant. It's hard to describe, but the games just look better.

The higher settings mean I can play on the bus fine. I used to have trouble with the old DS getting too much glare, not anymore!

The only flaw is the fact GBA games stick out of the GBA slot about an inch. If like me you're one of those people who hated playing classic Game Boy games on your Game Boy Advance, this will really irk you. I suggest picking up a used SP, that's that I use to play my old GBA games and they're getting pretty cheap.

Sold out? (1)

satoshi1 (794000) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519034)

All these stories of sold out DS Lites make me laugh. I called one local EBGames/GameStop (of which there are four within a half mile radius of each other) and the lady that answered said that they had sold-out pre-orders for a few weeks now, for all stores within a 100 mile radius (exaggerate much?). I called up the local Target and the guy that picked up said he had a few. I got there at 3:15PM (they opened at 9AM), and I was surprised to see at least ten DS Lite's on the shelves! Target has become my new launch day source.

Re:Sold out? (1)

daniel422 (905483) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519942)

I noticed that too. I cruised by Target just for kicks yesterday to see if they had any -- they had a whole locked up shelf full, with no sign, fanfare or anything. Wouldn't have even known they had the Lite version unless you looked closely, but it was ALL they had. Lot's of 'em. I was somewhat surprised. I'll pick one up in a few weeks maybe.

Comments and availability. (1)

LLcj (659533) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519100)

I picked one up in Cambridge MA @ Best Buy about 12:30pm yesterday. I asked and they still had several left. They were running a special to get a free copy of brain age with a DS lite purchase (coupon to print out on Bestbuy's front page). I bought a DS Fat w/ a copy of mario kart days before the DS lite announcement. When I heard about this I decided to just return the DS fat and hold on to Mario Kart till the DS lite came out. Definitely worth waiting. I'm 30 and this is a much more "adult" looking unit. It's all of the things you've probably already read (blah better screen, blah sleek, blah). I really like the feel of it (for some reason, the DS Fat left my hands sore after about 30 minutes of playing). I have a PSP and a copy of Syphon filter (dell had a special @ one point where it was $160 so I picked it up on a whim). It's going on eBay. It's probably a decent system, but I just don't want that complexity. It's more than I want/need. I played new SMB, what a blast. love it.

12 days later... (1)

muel (132794) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519195)

Like a few other lucky souls here, I picked mine up when a SuperTarget in Dallas broke the release date. Not much to say that most everyone else here hasn't--the screens are clear, the redesign is attractive--but I'd like to attest to how the new system feels in comparison to the old one, which I think is still the question mark for a few people here. After 12 days of extensive gaming, here's the skinny:

Mario Kart DS: For old-school d-pad & buttons games, the DS Lite is heaven. The "mushy" buttons have gotten some flak on this strand for not having a clicky feeling, but they're a helluva lot more comfortable for 30-minute-plus sessions, and the d-pad is much more responsive, which helps in a game with a crapload of powersliding.

New Super Mario Bros.: Same improvement, but the relocated, shrunken select/start buttons are a drawback. Sure, they're not essential to normal gameplay, but it's hard to hit them quickly for those occasional emergency pauses...I suppose Nintendo's trying to encourage people to shut the clamshell for sleep mode instead.

Metroid Prime Hunters: The reduced weight helps, but otherwise, my hand cramped up just as much as it would with the old unit. The shoulder buttons are fine and the touch screen is just as responsive (though it took me a second to adjust to the new stylus' larger tip), but it's still not wholly ergonomic stuff for the stylus-aim control scheme.

Brain Age: Lighter weight is nice for the game's vertical mode, but just as I'd heard before, the new microphone dislikes the word "blue" more than the old one...any BA players know exactly what I'm talking about. Annoying.

Overall, of course, it's a thumbs-up.

Re:12 days later... (1)

PeelBoy (34769) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519681)

There's no reason not to just shut the case. I know it's hard to fight the feeling that you need to pause (I still find my self pausing), but you're just going to shut the case after you pause anyway and the game stops on it's own when you shut the case so why bother pausing it and then shutting it?

On the other hand I do find my self hitting pause to exit a level I've already beaten before I die (like when I accidently jump into a pit or something). so I can see how that might suck. I have so many 1-ups I don't know why I bother doing this though.

Line out the door at a local retailer (1)

kabdib (81955) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519231)

The line was out the door at the retailer where I had reserved my DS-lite. When I finally got to the front, the guy running the register looked up, saw that the line hadn't shrunk at all, and remarked, "Oh no, they keep re-spawning!"

They had like 70 units and 60 on reserve, and a few people were taking advantage of that to buy more than one. "For a friend." Yeah.

Thinking of getting one but... (1)

Valthan (977851) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519235)

I was wondering if anyone could list some *good* games for it

Also what are the prices of the games (preferably in CAD but USD is good too...)

Re:Thinking of getting one but... (1)

TomHandy (578620) | more than 7 years ago | (#15520674)

These are the games I personally own and enjoy for the DS. Most of these games are (or were) $30-35 USD, although some have gotten cheaper. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Super Mario Bros. 64 DS Meteos Kirby's Canvas Curse Advance Wars: Dual Strike Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrows Mario Kart DS Super Mario Bros DS Tetris DS Metroid Prime Hunters Animal Crossing: Wild World I'd definitely recommend any of these...... there are also some other excellent DS games which I don't have, so I can't personally recommend them, but they're worth looking into. It's also probably worth noting that if you didn't own a GBA, you do have access to some top-notch GBA games as well like: Astro Boy: Omega Factor (developed by Treasure) Final Fantasy IV Advance Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Fire Emblem Fire Emblem: The Sacret Stones Golden Sun Golden Sun: The Lost Age Gunstar Super Heroes Metroid Fusion Metroid Zero Mission WarioWare WarioWare: Twisted

Target (1)

the computer guy nex (916959) | more than 7 years ago | (#15519344)

"I called up the local Target and the guy that picked up said he had a few. I got there at 3:15PM (they opened at 9AM), and I was surprised to see at least ten DS Lite's on the shelves! Target has become my new launch day source."

Most Target stores have been selling the new DS Lites for over a week. Check Slashdot archives for the story.

Wrist strap (1)

PSXer (854386) | more than 7 years ago | (#15520292)

Unfortunately, it doesn't come with a wrist strap/thumb pad. Of course, they're selling one on store.nintendo.com but it looks like it's the exact same as the old DS's strap.

I've been trying to get the strap from my old DS into the lite for a while, but the holes on the DS are pretty small. Getting it in the first hole isn't that tough, but I push and push and it won't come out the other end. Think I'm going to have to find a needle.
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