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RIAA Claims P2P Has Been Contained

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the desperate-spin-control dept.

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Magorak writes "USA Today is reporting the RIAA now claims that the issues surrounding P2P and piracy have been contained and are no longer as big an issue as they once were. From the article; 'The problem has not been eliminated,' says association CEO Mitch Bainwol. 'But we believe digital downloads have emerged into a growing, thriving business, and file-trading is flat.'"

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First Contained Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525419)

Copy steals music.

Re:First Contained Post (4, Funny)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525528)

Apparently your grammar has been "contained" as well.

Phew... (5, Funny)

jbirdkerr (879010) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525420)

Looks like Grandma and her illegal downloads of the "Happy Birthday" song can rest easy once again.

In other words... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525423)

Mission accomplished!

Re:In other words... (1)

1_brown_mouse (160511) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525577)

Doh! You stole my Joke!

Re:In other words... (1, Funny)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525717)

Doh! You stole my Joke!
Everyone stole that joke.

Yarrrr Matey! (4, Funny)

spahn (227384) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525429)

We won!

i tried really (3, Funny)

rritterson (588983) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525430)

I tried hard to come up with a serious comment to this article, I really did. But every time I started writing one, I starting giggling. The RIAA is just too much. So, then, let me be the first to say:

BAHAHAHAHAHAAH

So... (2, Insightful)

nicholaides (459516) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525434)

So you're going to stop sueing college kids?

PP2P2P2PP2P (2, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525621)

So you're going to stop sueing college kids?

Yeah, as soon as they stop downloading and listening to inane anime music [ytmnd.com] .

that is ridiculous- e.g. Gnutella (4, Insightful)

LM741N (258038) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525442)

I can still get on Gnutella and find almost every song that exists. What a bunch of nonsense. I believe they are just saying this so they can save face in the midst of their defeat.

Re:that is ridiculous- e.g. Gnutella (4, Funny)

richieb (3277) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525651)

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Don't tell them! Let them declare victory and leave....

Re:that is ridiculous- e.g. Gnutella (5, Insightful)

moranar (632206) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525661)

To be "fair", what they seem to be saying is that even though every existing song can be found on p2p, the money they're making is still increasing while p2p downloads aren't.

Re:that is ridiculous- e.g. Gnutella (4, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525710)

I can still get on Gnutella and find almost every song that exists. What a bunch of nonsense. I believe they are just saying this so they can save face in the midst of their defeat.

Or, they're trying to use it as a tactic to convince people that everybody else has given up on using p2p, and they're better off switching to the 'legit' ways of doing it.

Sometimes, trying to affect people's perceptions is as effective as trying to affect their actions.

Everything the *AA's says is all about spin and perception!

If you cannot win... (5, Funny)

HRogge (973545) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525444)

If you cannot win, claim victory.

Re:If you cannot win... (3, Funny)

FiReaNGeL (312636) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525547)

Hey, it worked for the US in Iraq after all ;)

Re:If you cannot win... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525652)

Yup. Break out the flight suit.

Re:If you cannot win... (0)

spacecowboy420 (450426) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525658)

Napolean did this in Egypt as well.

Good: we want them to think they have won (5, Interesting)

KWTm (808824) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525551)

You know what? Maybe they have won, if student pirating has been curbed to the extent that they want. And if more digital downloads are legal now than before, then that's great. It probably means that more companies are getting a clue about how to take advantage of the business model, but we'll let the RIAA save face.

All we want them to do is quit trying to stomp out every conceivable method of information transfer in the name of stopping piracy, and go back to their executive boardrooms and golf courses.

Re:Good: we want them to think they have won (5, Interesting)

flibuste (523578) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525635)

No, they would have won if former users of P2P were now downloading songs from paying sites, which is probably not the case. Have all the people willing to "illegaly" (meaning "against MAFIAA rules") download music moved to ITunes or such? I doubt it. What we'll see is an upcoming huge drop in CD sales in favor of downloaded music, but will the gross income increase? I am not sure.

They're losing the battle they started. Just as in project management, to keep face when a project is majorly failing, declare a success mid-course then terminate the project before big money gets lost.

Re:Good: we want them to think they have won (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525733)

I don't want them to return to their executive boardrooms and golf courses. That just means they'll lie dormant, just to be a problem again down the road. I'm all in favor of sending the RIAA to live on Mars. We can send them there using a giant catapult.
-
I mean, we'd be doing them a favor! Think about it - there's absolutely no file-sharing on Mars. If you overlook the lack of breathable atmosphere, it would be like a utopia for them.

Meanwhile... (5, Funny)

Lithgon (896737) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525448)

Pirate 1: Arrr! The RIAA ship has been swashbuckled! Pirate 2: Ayye! The fools even think they sunk us! ARRR!

Re:Meanwhile... (1)

shidarin'ou (762483) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525486)

Arr!!!!!

RIAA says its contained? (5, Funny)

LDMackSAE (888394) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525450)

Isn't that like a /.er's parent saying "My child doesn't spend that much time on the computer"?

Not flat (5, Funny)

Himring (646324) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525452)

file-trading is flat.

I actually think of it more as a rectangular prism....

Aww (1)

Yaksha42 (856623) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525453)

Well that just takes all the fun out of it, now doesn't it?

But the Pirate Bay.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525455)

Is Back Online!

The RIAA are correct... (1)

Symp0sium (961148) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525463)

....as I didn't just download 12 albums whilst sharing another 500.

Re:The RIAA are correct... (1)

Fordiman (689627) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525543)

*snort* 500?

Shee-it. I just finished downloading every title off WXPN's 885 best albums of all time. Nice little eMule control script I wrote to get albums via a csv file.

OT: Those are some... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525752)

great albums. I just finished "acquiring" them myself.

--Nick

was the guy... (5, Funny)

Churla (936633) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525465)

Was the guy who made this press release doing so on the deck of a ship with a big "Mission accomplished" sign behind him?

Any chance there?

Re:was the guy... (3, Funny)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525559)

Yes. It was a pirate ship. Or, at least, it should have been.

If you were the RIAA... (5, Insightful)

Douglas Simmons (628988) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525466)

What would you do?

Seriously...

Re:If you were the RIAA... (1)

HunterZ (20035) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525565)

I'd quit trying to squeeze money out of both ends of the entertainment industry by buying off lawmakers in a feeble to sustain my viability as a middle-man dealing in an obsolete medium, and I'd get a real job.

Re:If you were the RIAA... (2, Interesting)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525630)

I'd try to squeeze as much money outta the organisation as I legally can before it sinks. Because it will. They're sitting on the horse cart and the automobile came into play.

Re:If you were the RIAA... (1)

eclectro (227083) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525656)

If you were the RIAA..what would you do?

Besides going to Disneyworld??

In other news... (1)

w33t (978574) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525472)

Rain dances have begun working, since water has started to fall from the sky.

Is this anything like how we won in Viet Nam? (1)

mmell (832646) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525475)

Just askin'. After all, if we can pretend that "Peace with honor" isn't the same as "I give up", why can't the RIAA stick their fingers in their ears and sing "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA - I can't hear you"?

They can't do that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525691)

...because "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA - I can't hear you" is protected under copyright.

Nice to see wrong statistics propagated (5, Interesting)

jhill (446614) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525479)

Would appear that the writer of the story does what writers do best, not research facts. Appears that they're still using the same old sorry BS of CD sales dropped 30% in whatever year it was. When in fact, what has been shown is that it was singles that dropped ( you know, the things you can't find any more, because people aren't willing to pay 5 dollars for 1 song on a CD ), during that year CD sales actually increased.

Overall the article is rather blah, I'm sort of surprised that they didn't throw in there something about the lose of some umpteen billion dollars that they would have made if it weren't for illegal file sharing...the good myth of each download is a lost sale.

Re:Nice to see wrong statistics propagated (5, Funny)

ZombieWomble (893157) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525600)

Heck, if you think that statistic is bad, look at this one:

"Nearly 10 million people are online, swapping media, at any given time," he says. That May figure is up from 8.7 million people in 2005, he says.

Apparently a 15% growth rate per year is what the music industry calls 'contained'. I wish someone would come and 'contain' my savings account...

Translated from "Suitese"... (1)

Cheerio Boy (82178) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525480)

P2P downloading hasn't stopped and we can't stop it so we're going to just say it's contained, ignore it, and hope the media can snow the public.

Re:Translated from "Suitese"... (4, Funny)

Fordiman (689627) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525575)

Dude, I don't actually care. If they're trying to convince the public that filesharing is no longer a threat to them... HOORAY! I can share without guilt or fear of reprisal!

Re:Translated from "Suitese"... (1)

Cheerio Boy (82178) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525631)

Dude, I don't actually care. If they're trying to convince the public that filesharing is no longer a threat to them... HOORAY! I can share without guilt or fear of reprisal!

I wasn't saying I cared, I was just translating. ;-)

But I honestly wouldn't go hog wild again because you know the minute they get a reason they'll attack like rabid dogs again.

Re:Translated from "Suitese"... (3, Insightful)

robertjw (728654) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525594)

Actually, I'm guessing it's more along the lines of
Most people are downloading from iTunes, and we are making money so we don't care much anymore.

Re:Translated from "Suitese"... (1)

Cheerio Boy (82178) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525702)

Most people are downloading from iTunes, and we are making money so we don't care much anymore.

Your alternate translation is also valid. :-)

Finally!! (1)

eclectro (227083) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525487)


We as a society are safe from those filesharing twelve year olds and grandmas. Thank-you RIAA!!

/. has been hacked (5, Funny)

kfstark (50638) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525488)

A story about Microsoft calling a truce with the GPL followed by the RIAA saying P2P is not a problem.

It's not April 1st.

Hmmm... Only logical explanation is that /. has been hacked and someone is posting bogus stories.

--Keith

Re:/. has been hacked (5, Funny)

JavaTHut (9877) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525574)

> It's not April 1st.
>
> Hmmm... Only logical explanation is that /. has been hacked and someone is posting bogus stories.

We'll find out soon enough ... if we see this same story appear five times before week's end, we'll know only the real slashdot editors could acomplish that.

Very true. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525492)

I know my illegal file-trading is flat... a flat 5 gigs a day or so...

Huzzah! (1)

Funkcikle (630170) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525493)

Digital downloads may be growing but the rife-with-piracy analogue download sector TOWERS over it! What cunning monkeys the RIAA is, with their words!

p2p is for me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525498)

p2p is certainly dying. theres no argument there, half the files you download are corrupt or mislabeled.

damn the RIAA.

anyone remember when Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd decided to create their own recording studios/companies because the music industry tried to take all of the money they earned?

It's completely and utterly true (5, Interesting)

Toby The Economist (811138) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525502)

It's true - because everyone who is going to do P2P download is now doing it.

So he is right; P2P growth is flat - in exactly the same way TV purchase growth is flat.

Note any shortage of TVs around the first world? alas not...

Re:It's completely and utterly true (4, Interesting)

Toby The Economist (811138) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525592)

In fact, thinking about it, what I find interesting is the implied equivelence of legal and illegal downloads.

There appears to exist in the RIAA mind the notion that if legal downloads rise, illegal downloads must fall.

I think the derives from a failure to understand that the majority of illegal downloads *would never have otherwise been a legal purchase*.

Naturally, if you imagine the two are precisely correlated, if you see that the rate of illegal download growth has leveled out, you might - if you wanted to imagine it were so - consider that the problem had been "contained", especially since the number of legal downloads is rising (naturally, since it began recently at zero).

In reality of course it simply means the problem has maximized and naturally, with no relation to the RIAA in any way, the number of users has levelled out.

The RIAA just doesn't get it, it seems.

Of course, we have to consider how the RIAA are measuring numbers - absolutely nothing is said about this. Are they still fixated on the now-defunct Kazaa network? looking on eMule right now, there appear to be approximately 19 (nineteen) million concurrent users. On one P2P network, just at this moment. In the evenings UK time it's about 26 (twenty-six) million.

It's quite likely their measuring method is deliberately deceptive, in which case the statement means even less that it does.

Re:It's completely and utterly true (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525665)

Yer right... time for management to come up with some new P2P idea so we can sell the same old crap once again to our custom... WHAT YOU MEAN, P2P IS FREE???

Re:It's completely and utterly true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525670)

Obviously they haven't really slowed down the dedicated pirates like slashddotters. But they have been successful in shutting down a lot of the regular-luser piracy channels. If things are confined to members-only torrent sites and german P2P hubs, that's actually pretty good from their standpoint.

Also, the lawsuit scare tactics have been pretty effective IMO -- I know several people that were active on Napster/Kazaa a few years ago that haven't downloaded a thing since the whole personal responsibility thing started.

Hey (1)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525503)

..Im seeding the latest Album of Blink 182, and Red Hot Chilli Peppers. Also I just got Advent Children if anyone wants it.

There's actually a little truth in this. (2, Insightful)

ErichTheRed (39327) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525504)

If file trading is measured in terms of ease of use, then the number of available outlets has dropped. Things like Napster and the WinMX utility used to make file swapping incredibly easy even for people who weren't computer savvy. Now it takes a little work to get what you want. Plus, the major public file sharing networks are full of incomplete files, viruses and other garbage that most people don't want to deal with. In that way, people are either turning to harder-to-use file sharing techniques or giving up and getting a "real" copy of the media from a service that you know is good.

Your average user is using LimeWare and used to typing words into a search box. Doing this these days will usually yield you one or two real copies, and hundreds of viruse files or trojans.

Re:There's actually a little truth in this. (2, Insightful)

Fordiman (689627) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525610)

Which is why you stick to emule (brain-dead easy to use) or bittorrent (almost as, but harder to find stuff).

Re:There's actually a little truth in this. (2, Interesting)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525725)

Doing this these days will usually yield you one or two real copies, and hundreds of viruse files or trojans.

I just tried this on Gnucleus: I searched for "Hips Don't Lie" from "Shakira". I'm not a fan or so, it was just the first popular thing that popped up in my mind. After a few seconds waiting I got over 3000 hits, then I just sorted on size in reverse order. Those 200KiByte zip files and exe files won't fool anyone that knows that a regular MP3 is about 3MiByte. Now sort on "Distribution" (number of hosts having the same file), and downloaded it. (

For sure, it was indeed the correct song. I have now deleted it again, since I do not care much about the song, but frankly it's not as if it's unmanagable for a non-technical person. I have given Gnucleus to some non-tech-friends and they use it all the time without any problem (of course, they are behind a hardware firewall and have antivirus software installed and up to date)

Honestly... (1)

Izhido (702328) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525511)

... if you ask me, I think they just realized they can't fight piracy, so they gave up... but never, ever, EVER admitting that to the general public. Maybe now they can focus on TRULY helping the artists they claim to be supporting...

DUH! (1)

BigNumber (457893) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525521)

Isn't this what people have been saying all along? If you offer it online for a reasonable price, people will buy it instead of illegally downloading it.

They've successfully removed their heads from their collective asses. Now lets see if they'll listen when we say we don't want DRM.

Lessons learned? (1)

i_ate_god (899684) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525523)

I'm sorry, last time I checked, piracy was just as rampant as ever. It's many times easier than it was years ago, there much more stuff available than there was years ago.

Perhaps, just maybe, ever so slightly, no matter how implausible, the RIAA has learnt some lessons about starting a losing war? Every time they shut something down, something else comes up in its place. They have sued thousands of people to no effect. And it wasn't the RIAA that started online distribution of music, it was companies like Apple that did with the RIAA whining and complaining all the way to the bank.

So, just maybe, the RIAA has finally realized that going up against a solid steel wall will get you no where. It's a scary prospect I'm sure, but I for one hope its the case, because it might mean an end to their lobbying of world governments, their time wasting law suits, and their alienation of music lovers.

I swear, I can just almost see the sun poking through the clouds.

Re:Lessons learned? (1)

mikesd81 (518581) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525669)

The light @ the end of the tunnel is one of two things. Actual light and it's almost over, or a freight train barreling down on you.

They may claim a losing victory, but by no means is their war over. You'll see expensive law suits coming up soon. They'll continue to drain the bank accounts on futile law suits. They'll become the SCO of media.

Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525525)

It's just like the U.S. strategy in Iraq.

1. Imagine a problem where none exists
2. "Solve" the problem by ruining people's lives
3. At some point, arbitrarily declare victory and say you can go home now
4. Meanwhile nine million people want you dead because of your actions in steps 1-3, but you just kind of ignore that part.

Douglas Adams... (1)

MaestroSartori (146297) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525531)

...is probably laughing at this right now, wherever he is in the afterlife! The RIAA have turned into Wonko the Sane [wikipedia.org] . I hope they're happy outside the asylum!

Contained (1)

LoonyMike (917095) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525535)

We are proud to announce that we managed to contain this p2p issue within our planet.

sounds familiar (0)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525537)

April 5, 2003
"Nobody downloaded here. Those P2P losers, I think their repeated frequent lies are bringing them down very rapidly.... The business of sellings CDs is secure, is safe."

April 5, 2003
"They are not near our business model. Don't believe them.... They said they downloaded with... thousands of copies in the middle of our market demographic. They claim that they - I tell you, I... that this speech is too far from the reality. It is a part of this sickness of their plan. There is no an... - no any existence to the downloaders or for the downloaders in our business model at all."

April 6, 2003
"Whenever we attack, they retreat. When we pound them with fake copies and bogus servers, they retreat even deeper. But when we stopped poisoning their networks, they downloaded even more copies for propaganda purposes."

April 7, 2003
"The P2Pers are not there. They're not in our business model. There are no downloaders there. Never. They're not at all."

April 7, 2003
"The Pirate Bay learned a lesson last night they will never forget. We shut them down and will continue to shut them down."

April 7, 2003
"There is no presence of downloaders in our business model."

thanks to: http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomline/current/in_ our_opinion/baghdad_bob.htm [cfif.org]

Re:sounds familiar (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525701)

I just so knew that guy would get a new job in marketing.

Sounds familiar... (1)

glindsey (73730) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525541)

"Mission Accomplished", anyone?

Cost Containment (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525544)

It appears that the cost of finding, suing and obtaining judgments has shown some reduction in profit margin. Cost probably goes up exponentially trying to go after fewer and fewer pirates especially when the remaining few are savvier.

What the RIAA is saying is that they have instilled enough fear in the general populace to keep trading files being a household activity.

Music sales will still be in the toilet. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525545)

This is great! Now that music sales will still be in the crapper, users will claim victory. Of course the RIAA could artificially inflate record sales but that could get into a grey area that the Securities and Exchange Commission might be interested to look into.

Either way, the RIAA is phucked.

Snrk (5, Insightful)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525546)

But we believe digital downloads have emerged into a growing, thriving business

...yeah, after Apple dragged your sorry asses kicking and screaming into the digital age. After you tried everything in your power to make digital downloads as locked down, expensive, and all but impossible to effectively implement.

Digital downloads have emerged into a growing, thriving business despite your lot's best efforts to screw it all up.

in response to the old CEO's blog? (1)

cwtrex (912286) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525560)

I hope this is in response to Rosen's recent blog post and that they are acknowledging that she is right in at least some aspects. The recent post can be found here. [slashdot.org] As one other poster as already stated, perhaps they will stop suing their customers now?

They won? (0, Flamebait)

RecycledElectrons (695206) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525563)

So, the RIAA is saying that they have successfully crushed independant artists everywhere, with frivolous lawsuits?

That's all this was about...crushing indy artists, and stopping new technology so they keep their monopoly.

It's time for another Tim Mcveigh.

Andy Out!

Re:They won? (2, Insightful)

daVinci1980 (73174) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525683)

Wait, so you're saying that because the RIAA claims to have 'crushed Indy artists' (which doesn't explain my CD case, but okay), that it's time for us to bomb a federal building, killing civilians and children in the process [wikipedia.org] ?

I just want to make sure that that's really what you're saying. Because that might actually be the stupidest, most misguided statement I've ever read in all of my years on the internet. I suddenly understand why the draw of 27 virgins is capable of convincing men to kill themselves in the process of bombing other people!

Actually, that might be the stupidest thing I've heard in my entire life. I... I think you're causing me to have an aneuerysm [wikiquote.org] .

Mission accomplished! (3, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525569)

Just... where have I heard that before...

Well, if you can't win, just say you won and rely on your opponent to not contradict you.

Does anyone else do this now? (1)

the computer guy nex (916959) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525573)

Pirate music just in spite?

Believe the RIAA When... (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525581)

RIAA now claims that the issues surrounding P2P and piracy have been contained and are no longer as big an issue as they once were.

Does this mean that their lawsuit campaign is now over? That's when I'll actually believe a statement like theirs above.

They must of taken delivery of..... (1)

8127972 (73495) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525586)

..... one of Apple's old Reality Distortion Field genrators.

What planet do they live on? (0, Redundant)

keyne9 (567528) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525587)

Suuure [thepiratebay.org] . They have "contained" P2P piracy so well, that maybe they should open the doors to their offices more often.

Their perspective is a good thing! (1)

Zanth_ (157695) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525598)

Whether or not what he declares is true (proliferation of P2P sites like mininova, isohunt, piratebay), if they see it that way, then that means Joe Six Pack, Grandma and little 12 year old Josie down the street can rest easy.

Will copyright infringement every die out? Likely not. Will P2P continue, legit or not? Of course. If the RIAA is finally making money off of downloads, enough to have them decide to discontinue their draconian efforts of threatening, suing and *ahem* breaking the law by compromising PC's, then hey I'm all for this! Congrats on meeting up with the rest of the world in the year 2006.

Interesting... (1)

bfagan (71306) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525608)

how we first hear the Hillary Rosen isn't "fond" (my word) of the lawsuits. Now the RIAA has claimed P2P id flat. Hurumph.

They landed on the aircraft carrier and proclaimed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525617)

"Mission Accomplished"

Next (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525633)

First, MS declares a truce with Open Source.
Then, the RIAA stops chasing P2P downloaders.
Next, Hell freezes over.

What a day!

Yeah, I gave up P2P too... (1)

Krazy Nemesis (795036) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525642)

... the only problem (for them) is that I've picked up swapping portable hard drives full of music at a time with friends, co-workers, etc.. Now, instead of getting my music at only a couple thousand megabits per second I'm getting them by the hundreds of gigabytes! It's too bad they've chased us toward something that they really can't trace or bait. Face to Face is a bit more secure than Peer to Peer, and I actually prefer it this way.

What they REALLY mean... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525655)

There are as many file traders as ever, and they're trading more files than ever, but most of the indie file trading has leveled off.

It's the indies that require them to be against file trading. If they could control P2P like they do radio, they would have embraced the original Napster.

BTW, these guys [posamist.com] and these guys [thestationmusic.com] want you to trade their files. And buy their CDs. But there's little chance you'll buy the CDs if you haven't heard of the bands, is there?

-mcgrew (non-MRC="miners", no coal here dudes)

So... (1)

lunchlady55 (471982) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525671)

I looked out the window...
nope, no airborne swine.

What a bunch of ostriches... (1)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525673)

What a bunch of ostriches. They think that by wishing the "problem" to go away it will...

Whoops, sorry, I have to go to the library to RIP CDs with my laptop before it closes...

No one made an unstoppable Gnutella yet (1)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525674)

Maybe I have to bust out the C++ and make one. Basically, instead of hitting a central server, you dial up the IP list of people you were connected to the last couple times until you get a successful online signal, then that connection feeds you all the rest of the connections. Also, each one should use a unique port with its connection so port blocking can't do anything. There's no reason Gnutella should be able to be shut down unless you go to everyone's house and rip it out of their machine.

Re:No one made an unstoppable Gnutella yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15525718)

They have that already, it's called Kademlia.

It is all flat (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525678)

File sharing is flat along with the rest of the recording industry. Maybe because most of the music and movies they are pushing are repetitive and tiresome? Cookie cutter hip-hop, American Idol pseudo Vegas acts and movie takeoffs of TV shows (or worse, pointless remakes i.e. The Omen) are the problem. If I were them I'd be very worried that people aren't even willing to take your product for free.

RIAA and Microsoft (1)

alxkit (941262) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525685)

RIAA thinks P2P has been contained... MS calls for truth wiht Open Source... WTF? Did I just slip in into some parallel universe? Am I going to work to find a big fat bonus? Will my X wife forfeit my child support payments? Will Comcast charge $1 a year for my internet access? What a friggin' day!

Hot Diggity! (1)

necro81 (917438) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525689)

Does this mean the music industry will stop shitting on consumers? Will they lower prices, publish less crap and more good music, eliminate draconian DRM, reinstate fair use, and stop whining all the time?

Yeah, I didn't think so either.

/resumes p2p downloading

Wow.. is than an admision?? (1)

Brothernone (928252) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525697)

Holy shit... an electronic download model can work, and worse, this comming from the RIAA!! At least they've pulled their head out of their collective ass and started to try for a better bussiness model. Despite they're war on terrorism.. i mean "piracy".. the RIAA has shut up recently. the MPAA can still suck a fart out of my ass. Take a hint, digital downloads that the consumer will "own" wholy and truly are what people want. Long gone are the days of the fat cat cartels; their bussiness model is failing and they're too scared to jump ship and make cash.

More nervous (1)

Rorian (88503) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525719)

First Microsoft embraces Open source, now the RIAA feels comfortable with P2P networks, and thinks that they have the issue under control..

The axis of evil is definitely plotting something big..

In unrelated news (1)

BlackCobra43 (596714) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525736)

P2P sharing soared 35,000% today as students, quote "Finally had those pigs off their back" end quote. Film at 11.

Sure, piracy has been contained... (1)

Virak (897071) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525756)

And I most definitely haven't downloaded over 10 GB of files on bittorrent this month alone.

Related joke (2, Funny)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#15525759)

Some prankster let free all the dangerous animals on a zoo. The public was in panic, so the zoo chief gathered all the people inside the lion's cage. Then they locked it from inside.

"We're safe! The animals are contained!"
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