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Firefox VoIP Client

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the communication-dashboard dept.

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libocannici writes "Abbeynet Labs has released the first version of a Firefox VoIP extension which is a full featured SIP user agent plugin for Firefox." The Firefox extension is completely stand-alone, with all VoIP functionality built directly into it. From one-click calling to SMS sending, this promises to be quite handy. All Internet calls are currently free, just requiring an abbyphone account, while PSTN calls have a small charge.

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AMD (5, Funny)

celardore (844933) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577853)

Will it work on my AMD processor?

Re:AMD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15577892)

it probably won't work on /any/ processor once the firefox team has become sufficiently alien with the 'do one thing, do it well' mantra that has served them so well so far. perhaps firefox should include its own version of solitaire?

Re:AMD (2, Insightful)

qbwiz (87077) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577907)

What are you complaining about? This is an extension. The firefox developers had nothing to do with it.

Re:AMD (2, Insightful)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577933)

perhaps firefox should include its own version of solitaire?

No, but it sounds like a great idea for an extension!

Re:AMD (-1, Redundant)

RangerRick98 (817838) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578130)

perhaps firefox should include its own version of solitaire?


No, but it sounds like a great idea for an extension!


Yes, it does! [mozdev.org]

Firefox card games (4, Interesting)

kkovach (267551) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577962)

Been there, done that.

http://cardgames.mozdev.org/ [mozdev.org]

- Kevin

First call (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15577866)

Can you hear me now?

Err, why? (3, Interesting)

Poromenos1 (830658) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577875)

Why does this have to be a Firefox extension? Why can't I just use Skype (or at least make it standalone)?

I use Opera, damnit!

Re:Err, why? (2, Insightful)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577905)

Really, plug-ins and extensions are one thing, over-doing it is another.

Why not a WoW client or GameBoy emulator extension for FireFox while we're at it?!

Re:Err, why? (1)

mpathetiq (726625) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577970)

A gameboy emulator extension is actually appealing to me. Having a gameboy on a tab would be awesome.

Re:Err, why? (1)

misleb (129952) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578034)

You do know that if you run Windows, you have your applications in little "tabs" in the bottom of the screen, right? Is alt-tab really that hard?

Re:Err, why? (1)

mpathetiq (726625) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578129)

I've never heard of Alt+Tab... ever.

I know it's silly, but the reason I would want a GB emu on a tab is so I can easily hide it. If my boss looks over my shoulder and sees "GAMEBOY" on the task bar, there's a pretty good chance I'm goofing off. If he sees a tab named "GAMEBOY", he might just think I'm reading a GB related site. For some reason, he thinks wasting time reading about games is more less non-productive than actually playing the games themselves. Woo hoo! Double negative!

Besides, if I wanted to use Alt+Tab all the time, I wouldn't need tabbed browsing.

Re:Err, why? (1)

mpathetiq (726625) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578163)

more less non-productive

That should read:

more productive

OR

less non-productive

Where's the Preview button again?

Re:Err, why? (1)

koweja (922288) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578239)

Actually, "more less non-productive" sounds like something a manager would say, so it works in this context.

Re:Err, why? (1)

andrewman327 (635952) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578459)

What are you talking about, Alt-Tab is WAY too hard. Ctrl-Pgup is of course the much easier alternative.

Re:Err, why? (4, Insightful)

misleb (129952) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577935)

Good question. It isn't like it is cross platform or anything. So not only is it limited to Firefox, but also Windows. Seems like a silly set of restrictions just to get the "convenience" of clicking on a phone number and calling or whatever it does. How often does that happen, anyway? Calling tech support from a vendor support page?

-matthew

Re:Err, why? (1)

baadger (764884) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578355)

Windows let's you register your own protocol handlers, if you wanted you could easily register "skype://" and have the Skype client pick up on in webpage clicks, if Skype haven't already done so (I've never used it).

Re:Err, why? (4, Informative)

coreyb (125522) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577939)

RTFA - you click on a phone number in a web page and it calls it. Not that cutting and pasting 10 digits would be that difficult, but there it is.

Re:Err, why? (2, Informative)

Ugot2BkidNme (632036) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578171)

umm useing the callto:############### can prompt skype to make the call for you as well. it's not like it is genious or anything it defaults to the application set same as the mailto: function on the href.

Re:Err, why? (5, Informative)

Bogtha (906264) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578173)

you click on a phone number in a web page and it calls it.

You still don't need to build the VOIP into the browser. Just a Greasemonkey script to convert plain-text telephone numbers into <a href="tel:..."> [ietf.org] links and a handler to pass off tel: links to an external program just like mailto: links are handled.

Re:Err, why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15578480)

LOL Brilliant! Now please solve polution and world hunger, you are obviously full of wonderful ideas.

Re:Err, why? (2, Funny)

Bogtha (906264) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578541)

Sure. Just build massive electric fans to blow the pollution away and invite the hungry people over for dinner.

There is already a skype extension for firefox (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15577956)

http://www.skype.com/download/skypewebtoolbar/fire fox.html [skype.com]

I maintain a salesforce database and this thing is brilliant. Just click the #.

Re:Err, why? (2, Insightful)

wfberg (24378) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577968)

Why does this have to be a Firefox extension? Why can't I just use Skype (or at least make it standalone)?

There are a zillion stand alone SIP applications, which is beside the point.
From the company's perspective this is great for 3 reasons;
1) one-click install; no setup.exe, no .zip files people can't open, no folders they shouldn't delete; it's all hidden away, much like it's pretty hard to fudge up your macromedia flash "install".
2) silly browser integration; it recognizes phonenumbers and makes them clickable,
3) guaranteed coverage on slashdot and other firefox-crazy websites.

If it's really that useful, Opera will have it integrated in 3 months time anyway ;-)

Re:Err, why? (1)

heinousjay (683506) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578152)

If it's really that useful, Opera will have it integrated in 3 months time anyway

And then both users can call each other without leaving their browser!

Re:Err, why? (1)

bcat24 (914105) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578207)

Do we really want Firefox users and Opera users to call each other that easily? Imagine the all the flamewars they'd have. :)

Re:Err, why? (1)

Bogtha (906264) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578199)

If it's really that useful, Opera will have it integrated in 3 months time anyway ;-)

You laugh, but Opera for mobile phones already implements RFC 3966 [ietf.org] , which means you can click on a link in a web page to call somebody.

Re:Err, why? (1)

NutscrapeSucks (446616) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578388)

Memory protection is overrated anyway. We should all go back to using MacOS 9, where every program was pretty much an "extension" of every other program. In fact, maybe Firefox should be extended to include a complete MacOS Toolbox API, and then we can run all of our software within Firefox. As long as programmers don't create bugs, it would work great.

Re:Err, why? (1)

JayDot (920899) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577984)

They also have a seperate desktop app, so you don't have to use Firefox. You can find more info on their website. http://www.abbeyphone.com/ [abbeyphone.com]

Re:Err, why? (1)

baadger (764884) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578327)

The same could be said about Opera widgets, most of which have nothing to do with being useful to web browsing.

When Web 2.0 calms, and the dust has settled we will see what consequences have swept in with all this madness.

How about a simple extension that'll make it easy to transfer webpage bookmarks across IM network during conversation, without having to go edit your bookmark and copy and paste the url, that may actually be a useful integration for heavy VoIP users...no no lets just put the whole VoIP client in the browser it makes so much more sense.

Ticked Off Ma Bell (3, Insightful)

neonprimetime (528653) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577891)

I betcha if this every caught on ... it could really tick off the big phone companies.

Re:Ticked Off Ma Bell (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577961)

If this was going to catch on, it would have already with all the standalone clients like skype, or the 'cheap long distance' thingies they used to sell at CompUSA.

I don't think a plugin for a browser with ~9% (generous estimates) market share is going to topple the Telco giants any time soon.

But maybe I'm a gloomy gus.

Re:Ticked Off Ma Bell (1)

misleb (129952) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577974)

Yeah, because you know everyone is just dying to be able to make personal phone calls from their web browser. Seriously, the only VoIP services that pose any serious threat to the big phone companies are real POTS replacements like Vonage or Speakeasy VoIP, etc. You know, the services that you can plug your regular phone into and not be chained to your computer. Services that offer 911.

-matthew

Re:Ticked Off Ma Bell (2, Insightful)

vishbar (862440) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578534)

Remember the lack of net neutrality? Now, Ma Bell just calls up her ISP division, and oops--VOIP transmissions are suddenly shaped into 1kb/s oblivion...

Why use firefox then? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15577903)

So if it's a standalone extension, why is it an extension? Just for the GUI?

All in One ... Not always Good? (3, Insightful)

AWhiteFlame (928642) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577915)

Firefox Plugins: Why run anything else?

I'll just run Skype in my tray, thanks..

Re:All in One ... Not always Good? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15577975)

It said SIP client, not Skype. Call me when Skype can talk to the myriad networks using SIP.

Confrence-blogocall? (1)

RingDev (879105) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578011)

It would be kinda interesting to be able to visit someone's blog and be able to talk with other visitors and the author live time. And it could also be handy if you keep a "speed dial" list on your startup page, no need to dig out numbers, just hit the home button and click the link to your favorite relative.

-Rick

Almost makes you feel sorry for IE users (2, Funny)

gasmonso (929871) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577917)

With all this development for FF, it makes me shed a tear for IE users. If they only knew.

http://religiousfreaks.com/ [religiousfreaks.com]

Re:Almost makes you feel sorry for IE users (2, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577980)

Knew what? How to double click on the icon that launches skype?

I'll get the word out. Thanks.

Re:Almost makes you feel sorry for IE users (4, Funny)

saleenS281 (859657) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578137)

If only you knew. There's a large community out there that makes "extensions" for IE as well, you've just never bothered to look.

Re:Almost makes you feel sorry for IE users (1)

mustafap (452510) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578180)

>you've just never bothered to look.

Duh. This is /. How about a few links? Ah actually dont bother.

Re:Almost makes you feel sorry for IE users (1)

baadger (764884) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578399)

Dude ..the kinds of "extensions" he means don't have websites. You don't even have to goto the trouble of downloading or installing them yourself, they're that good.

Re:Almost makes you feel sorry for IE users (5, Funny)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578526)

He doesn't know. That's the beauty of IE "extensions" ... they just show up on your computer, by magic!

It's the state-of-the-art in software distribution. They install it on your computer before you even know you want it there. Microsoft has always been ahead of the curve here.

Re:Almost makes you feel sorry for IE users (2, Funny)

Stephen Gilbert (554986) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578382)

There's a large community out there that makes "extensions" for IE as well, you've just never bothered to look.

Sadly, Microsoft's security patches keep breaking compatibility with these "extensions".

RONG AGAION LUNIX FAG (-1, Flamebait)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578451)

You Linux Zealots never cease to amaze... with your incessant baseless criticism of Microsoft's stuff.

For your information, zealot, not that you'll listen, this is one area that Microsoft is well known for its reliability in. In fact, they even announce up to a month in advance that their next cycle will produce compatibility issues with some of the newer extensions. This gives the dev teams behind the extensions plenty of time to prepare themselves for the changes and get a patched version ready for the next cycle.

Why else would they release security fixes in a cycle, anyway? Their entire development process is based around this open standard and you continue to criticise?

Re:RONG AGAION LUNIX FAG (1)

docdoc (518231) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578517)

You know, I appreciate a good discussion about as much as the next guy, whether or not I agree. Sitting on a handful of mod points though, I would like to be able to mod you down as -1, "appreciate your argument, but not the all-caps lunix fag part". Flamebait probably, but +0.5 informative maybe?

One word for you (1)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578539)

Whooooooooooosh

Not in a few months... (2, Informative)

helmutvs (912204) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578218)

Given how many people still use IE over Firefox, when IE 7 and 7+ are released (non-beta), there will be lots of development for IE "Add-ons". These are the Add-ons so far. [ieaddons.com] On the main page, there's a link to make your own MSIE 7 add-ons. Thus, a new facet to the IE/Mozilla competition will emerge.

Shedding tears? No. IE users have a bright and better browsing future to look forward to.

Crap stuffed into firefox is not crap anymore ? (5, Insightful)

file-exists-p (681756) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577920)

This is a non-free windows VOIP application. There are zillions of similar things already on the market. Why is this one noticeable ? Because it was stuffed into firefox-the-free-software ?

MOD Parent UP: Insightful (1)

bananaendian (928499) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577979)

This is a non-free windows VOIP application. There are zillions of similar things already on the market. Why is this one noticeable ? Because it was stuffed into firefox-the-free-software ?

Never were truer words spoken. Would mod this +1 Insightful but all out of points...

PS: how about some links to open VoIP clients ?

Re:Crap stuffed into firefox is not crap anymore ? (1)

Buzz_Litebeer (539463) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578038)

Agreed, if this was some kind of software to try to make firefox a social networking browser then it would be cool, but as it is its just someone trying to leverage some of the firefox market.

Re:Crap stuffed into firefox is not crap anymore ? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15578039)

For a Free/free cross-platform Firefox VOIP extension try OpenWengo (http://www.openwengo.org)

Re:Crap stuffed into firefox is not crap anymore ? (3, Informative)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578110)

Exactly, Its not configurable for use with Asterisk or anything else.

I find this plugin as useful as the yahoo toolbar that get's shoved down my throat at almost every turn now days.

Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (3, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577946)

How about a FORTRAN compiler plugin or a plugin to catalog the users collection of anal beads?

Seriously, can we say feature bloat?

The next firefox news I want to here is the news that firefox 1.5 isn't a memory leaking bloated piece of shit under linux. I'm not joking when I say that running IE under wine is faster and more stable on my machine. FF is leaking memory just sitting there doing nothing -- I can see it happen with top.

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15578054)

You think YOU know pain, Penguin boy? Try running Firefox under Mac OS X. You haven't seen a slow, leaky ship until you've run it on OS X. You linux-boys have it EASY.

Thank god for Safari/Konqueror.

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578086)

Quit trolling, everything "just works" on a Mac, the metrosexual anthropomophized PowerMac (are they called PentiuMacs now?) in the commercial said so himself.

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (1)

Americano (920576) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578176)

Well, technically, they are right -- Firefox "just works" on my mini... as long as you define "just working" as "just [barely] working"... It's actually not so bad unless I try opening multiple tabs... then the memory usage spikes big time.

I really do like Firefox most of the time, but a VoIP extension? Yawn. I have skype already if I need it. I have a cell phone already if I need it. I'd rather see all that effort go into making Firefox as responsive and speedy as Opera.

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578353)

>Quit trolling, everything "just works" on a Mac

Yeah, like everything on Linux is "open source"...

First of all, Firefox isn't from Apple. Second, Firefox really IS bloated and slow on OS X. Never have I seen a program crash so much, even on Windows. No problems with Safari or Opera, however.

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15578114)

As the Fine Summary states, this is an extension. It is therefore optional. If you don't want it, don't install it - but it is unlikely to become core FF functionality. These guys obviously thought it would be useful so they have created it.

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (2, Insightful)

SmellTheCoffee (808375) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578162)

Seriously, can we say feature bloat?

Not really...this is an EXTENSION which means it is not built into the firefox code base. You have to put extra effort to actually download and install it. If you download and install then obviously you know what you are doing and the extension is worth something to you. Other could care less and can simply chose to ignore. I don't see how that is a feature bloat.

I'm not joking when I say that running IE under wine is faster and more stable on my machine. FF is leaking memory just sitting there doing nothing -- I can see it happen with top.

I have never used wine and I'll certainly never use IE with Wine under Linux. I'm perfectly fine with Firefox or Epiphany or Mozilla or Konqueror or Opera.

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (1)

Random Destruction (866027) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578184)

This bug has already been fixed [opera.com]


Seriously though, with opera 9 finally out, who cares about firefox. Opera is wayy faster in linux. If only it had extensions like firefox, it'd be perfect.

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15578203)

And Opera is free and open source too? KICK ASS

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578439)

it is free.. and honestly it is one of the few things that i am glad isn't open source.. because well they inovate soo much and move very fast that if it was open for all well it wouldn't have the value because it would be forked every 5 min

s/EMACS/Firefox (2, Insightful)

anothy (83176) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578250)

Eighty Megabytes And Continually Swapping?

Firefox is my operating system; linux is its device drivers?

Future, meet the past. Past, the future.

Re:Remember when Firefox was a web browser? (1)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578369)

Odd that a Linux user savvy enough to run top and spot memory leaks could be so completely ignorant of a concept as simple as Firefox extensions.

You're right about it being unstable though. But the memory usage is for a reason. It's wasting a lot of memory to track how much time you've spent typing a textarea. It then takes this data and uses even more memory working out the exact right moment to crash and lose all your work on you, for maximum psychological effect. Bastards.

w00t 7p (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15577953)

*BSD has lost more Are there? Oh, AASOCIATION OF

Extensions are great. (2, Insightful)

dubmun (891874) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577957)

I'm just not sure I want to open Firefox everytime I want to make a phonecall ;)

Seriously, I don't think phone companies are going to care too much about this. They are more concerned with cellphone and how to continue to be profitable in the rapidly changing telecommunications marketplace.

Home telephone service is dying. (Please excuse the redundancy of that last statement. It just seemed like it needed to be said.)

Re:Extensions are great. (5, Insightful)

PFI_Optix (936301) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578084)

Home telephone service is dying.

Home telephone will die when:

1) Cellular coverage is complete and solid. There are still large chunks of rural areas with no service at all.

2) Cellular service becomes reliable. I run into "network busy" at least once a month; I've never had such a problem with my land line.

3) cellular service becomes truly affordable. I can get a land line with unlimited long distance for somewhere around $60-70. If I go with the most basic service, I can get it unlimited local for under $40. My cell phone plan with 600 "any time" minutes costs more than either. First cell company to unlimited minutes for $50 a month wins my cash vote.

4) DSL is available without telephone service. That's where the phone companies like AT&T are already going: they see a severe decline in landline subscriptions coming and are trying to dig into the cable market. "Fiber to the home" is becoming quite the popular phrase.

Re:Extensions are great. (1)

dubmun (891874) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578175)

I agree with your first two points but:

First cell company to unlimited minutes for $50 a month wins my cash vote.
Try Cricket [mycricket.com] .
DSL is available without telephone service.
This is already possible. I had DSL through Qwest [qwest.com] a couple years ago without any telephone service. They don't LIKE to do it but they will.

Re:Extensions are great. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15578282)

1) Cellular coverage is complete and solid. There are still large chunks of rural areas with no service at all.

Rural areas? I just moved from Fort Worth, TX to Mercer Island, WA. My cell provider (Cingular) worked well in Texas, but the coverage in the Seattle area sucks.

2) Cellular service becomes reliable. I run into "network busy" at least once a month; I've never had such a problem with my land line.

Continuing with the "my cellphone provider sucks" theme, I run into "network busy" at least once a day.

3) cellular service becomes truly affordable. I can get a land line with unlimited long distance for somewhere around $60-70. If I go with the most basic service, I can get it unlimited local for under $40. My cell phone plan with 600 "any time" minutes costs more than either. First cell company to unlimited minutes for $50 a month wins my cash vote.

MetroPCS [metropcs.com] offers a plan with unlimited local and long-distance calling, unlimited text and picture messages, etc, for $45/month. Unfortunately (for me) it's not yet available in Washington state.

4) DSL is available without telephone service. That's where the phone companies like AT&T are already going: they see a severe decline in landline subscriptions coming and are trying to dig into the cable market. "Fiber to the home" is becoming quite the popular phrase.

Or cable modem service without a cable TV subscription, something the local provider here seems unwilling to do.

Re:Extensions are great. (1)

ferrgle (945967) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578387)

Just to say about point 4 above. I have broadband internet without a phone line. In the UK NTL will install broadband 1Mb/sec is 17.99 a month and you dont have to have a landline. Voip is great for me!

Re:Extensions are great. (1)

RWarrior(fobw) (448405) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578574)

costs more than either. First cell company to unlimited minutes for $50 a month wins my cash vote.

They win [metropcs.com] . Coverage areas are limited, as they are a new launch and they are apparently building out their network. Even so, in the limited places where they offer service, this price point -- unlimited airtime for $45/mo -- has arrived.

Even more fun, there's no contract and no activation fee. While the phones aren't portable to other carriers (CDMA) and the selection of handsets is limited, that will change in time and you can, of course, port your old number.

Thanks, but no thanks. (3, Interesting)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 8 years ago | (#15577977)

With my normally running Skype and/or gaim, I've already got all that functionality. I love Firefox and all, but I really see no need to use my web browser as yet another 3rd-party non-free VOIP app.

<EVERYTHING> extensions. (4, Insightful)

OverDrive33 (468610) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578022)

Is it just me, or is it getting more and more possible to do away with Windows completely and just use a plethora of Firefox extensions to accomplish the same goals?
The more I think about it, there certainly are enough extensions out there to just have Windows boot firefox.exe rather than explorer as a default shell. Forget the start menu! Everything you need is built into your web browser!! As for office apps, there's a good range of "Web 2.0" office suites that you could use.
I can't decide if this is a good or a bad thing.

Re: extensions. (4, Funny)

Bogtha (906264) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578228)

Yes, Firefox is truly becoming the 21st century EMACS. It's a decent OS, all it needs now is a good web browser ;).

What really worries me is when the EMACS developers realise that they can replace their built-in web browser with Firefox and when the Firefox developers realise that they can replace their built-in text boxes with EMACS. The resulting bloat will collapse in on itself and the Earth will be sucked into the newly-formed black hole.

Re: extensions. (1)

molarmass192 (608071) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578378)

You are correct ... well ... except for the fact this is extension is for Windoze only (abbeyphone-ff.xpi/components/SIPXPCOM.dll).

Re: extensions. (2, Interesting)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578502)

I can't decide if this is a good or a bad thing.
Good:
  • OS independance
  • Mostly open standards and open source
  • World peace
  • A cure for AIDS
Bad:
  • The price of OS independance (in this case) is incredibly high-level programming, with system requirements to match
  • PAEDOPHILES CAN USE BROWSERS!!!

My Pentium III can still handle KDE + Firefox + Extensions, so I'm not complaining yet. And at 4 - 2, it's a net win for Good Thing.

Asterisk IAX Client too (4, Informative)

Albanach (527650) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578030)

As others have pointed out, it's not the first VoIP extemsion for Firefox.

There's also an IAX client for Asterisk fans called MozIAX available here [mozdev.org] .

But does it work in linux? (4, Insightful)

Se7enLC (714730) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578067)

... No, it doesn't work in linux

Saying "firefox plugin" is not enough if you don't plan on supporting ALL versions of firefox. You need to specify "windows only" so we can lump it in with the rest of the windows VoIP crap.

aw, geeze ..... (2, Insightful)

Gorshkov (932507) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578076)

Somehow, I don't see me trusting the technical excellence of anybody who is going to try to talk me into trying something on a webpage with a dark blue background and small, light grey text

Re:aw, geeze ..... (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578225)

Yeah, they better add some looping midis and some bitchin' flaming skull animated gifs if they want to be taken seriously on todays web.

A handful of counters couldn't hurt either. And 24-pt blinking text never goes out of style.

Not the 1st: Wengo beat them to the punch (5, Informative)

OlivierB (709839) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578093)

Wengo's had a Firefox multi-plateform (Mac, PC, Linux) and multi-architecture (x86, PPC) VoIP extension available for about 4 months now. See it here [wengo.com]

Wengo btw is my operator of choice here in Europe with top-notch voice quality and reliability with prices lower than Skype. Only problem is their inbound number is France only atm. Did I mention that they have a working Gaim port? [wengo.com]

Re:Not the 1st: Wengo beat them to the punch (1)

molarmass192 (608071) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578400)

You mean this one here [wengo.com] ? For some reason it fails to install for my with a "Coming soon ..." message. ;-) The non-FF extension Wengo is pretty cool though!

Re:Not the 1st: Wengo beat them to the punch (2, Informative)

molarmass192 (608071) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578417)

I just stumbled upon the OpenWengo FF extension for Linux here [openwengo.org]

Re:Not the 1st: Wengo beat them to the punch (1)

OlivierB (709839) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578447)

Sorry I should have mentioned that the Linux FF extension is still Alpha and hence isn't listed on the front page.
Thanks for posting the corrected link to the page.
Wengo rocks for supporting such diverse platformes, hope you'll enjoy it as much as me.

Can we get an office suite as well? (1)

MikeRT (947531) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578122)

Who wants to take bets on how long before someone writes an office suite plugin?

Re:Can we get an office suite as well? (2, Interesting)

baadger (764884) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578423)

Somebody should work on getting User Mode Linux entirely encapsulated in a single one-click install Firefox extension...then we could run Firefox on it.

VoIP in a browser? (2, Insightful)

mnmn (145599) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578153)

Forgive me for asking but what part of the browsing experience makes up voip? How is voip browsing?

Things like xmms and mplayer are more 'browsing' than voip. Things like email clients, voip, financial applications, spreadsheets, idsoftware games are all non-browser software and should not be a part of the browser. A browser should include things that are required for browsers, and wont go anywhere else like shockwave flash players.

And I've seen other comments before, people dont like their firefoxen growing fatter.

Customer support. (1)

Joseph Vigneau (514) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578298)

One "VoIP in a browser" scenario that immediately springs to mind is customer support. Say you go to your bank's web site to look at your statement, and something doesn't check out. It would be nice to be able to click on the button that says "Speak with a representative" and be on your way. Same for retail, or any other industry, really. Or, with your Yahoo/Google/MSN contact list, it would be nice to be able to click on an icon next to someone's name to speak with them.

And don't get sucked into Skype, use open systems, like those built on SIP, to prevent single-vendor lockin.

Re:Customer support. (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578590)

It would be nice to be able to click on the button that says "Speak with a representative" and be on your way
Speak with a representative [skype] ?

And don't get sucked into Skype
It's either Skype or MSN voice chat with other computer users... I choose Skype.
use open systems, like those built on SIP, to prevent single-vendor lockin.
I would need something that inter-operates with Skype really to be of any use to me.

I use Stickam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15578223)

This is not VOIP but for PC-to-PC video chat stuff I love Stickam [stickam.com] . It's totally free -- but the best part is that because it's Flash-based it doesn't require any stupid download (ahem Skype). And of course I couldn't use if it didn't work on my Linux laptop, my girlfriend's Windows machine, and my brother's Mac (I even tried it in Safari).

Re:I use Stickam (1)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578404)

It's totally free -- but the best part is that because it's Flash-based
RMS must be spinning in his grave...

Flock (3, Insightful)

tecker (793737) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578224)

This seems like something that would be better suited for Flock [flock.com] rather then Firefox. Wouldnt it make more sense for You to be able to see who was on and then be able to call them for free. Im guessing that someone will do this.

An alternate to this VOIP extension (4, Interesting)

dmbtech (790450) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578229)

A great alternite to this extension is the openwengo firefox extension. Its a little buggy, but gets its job done and looks very nice. Its called openwengo, and you can get it from http://www.openwengo.org/ [openwengo.org] . Its open source, lightweight and also allows free phone line calls, which Abbeynet doesn't do.

Why must everything be a firefox addin, and why... (2, Interesting)

CFD339 (795926) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578266)

...is this /. news? Does anything that happens with firefox by definition make it news? A VoIP client is just a SIP or perhaps an IAX2 stack with a text interface. There are many libraries for doing this now. A java sip library and a few minutes of ui code can build a SIP client. What value is there in having it part of firefox and not a standalone bit of java that runs in your KDE or Windoze desktop? Is there a reason you'd only want to make or receive calls when firefox is loaded?

The New New New Thing (4, Insightful)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578272)

I hope that the wide deployment of Firefox makes this SIP client catch on fast and replace the proprietary Skype clients that created the market.

And I hope this SIP client pushes Firefox into even further deployment.

Simple integration of voice into the Web has the power to be the "new Netscape", combining multiple related functions into a single integrated experience among hundreds of millions of people around the world.

Calling the PSTN for a charge might become like the mid-1990s paying small dialup prices to access the rest of the Net for "free".

Skype or OpenWengo or ...? (1)

DieNadel (550271) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578441)

What phone+video communication software do you recommend?

It must run at least on Linux and Windows, and running on OpenBSD would be a plus.

PSTN connection is not a must, but would be nice as well.

So, what is the best software for phone and/or video communication?

Isn't it now called VONSA? (4, Funny)

freelunch (258011) | more than 8 years ago | (#15578446)

Voice Over NSA.

Idiotic extension (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15578591)

What has this do with web browsing? Firefox is a web browser after all. I cannot imagine any added value of this - why not just release this as a stand-alone application?
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