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Another Microsoft Exec Joins Google

CmdrTaco posted about 8 years ago | from the just-another-boring-sunday dept.

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SirClicksalot writes "CNN is reporting that Vic Gundotra, a 15-year veteran general manager at Microsoft, has left the company to join Google. Gundotra worked at Microsoft as general manager for platform evangelism to get software developers to use Microsoft's software and online offerings. The function he will perform at Google is not yet known, but he will need to wait one year before starting his new job because of a non-compete clause in his contract."

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243 comments

Was that... (5, Funny)

bcat24 (914105) | about 8 years ago | (#15645939)

the sound a chair being thrown?

Re:Was that... (2, Informative)

bcat24 (914105) | about 8 years ago | (#15645945)

Er, was that the sound of a chair being thrown?

[Note to self: the preview button is your friend.]

Only on slashdot... (4, Funny)

rogerramrod (947312) | about 8 years ago | (#15645989)

You get modded a troll when you correct your own post.

Re:Only on slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646045)

Heh, whoops, that was me. Didn't notice it was the same user posting the correction, just thought it was another smartass grammer nazi.

Apologies, I will bump up your parent post to try and make up for it.

Re:Only on slashdot... (3, Insightful)

kimvette (919543) | about 8 years ago | (#15646429)

Question (no offense intended): why waste a mod point modding posts down, even grammar nazis or trolls, when there are so many great posts that need to be modded up to insighful or interesting to make the threshold settings actually useful?

(Again no offense intended, I am genuinely curious why people do this)

Aside from really racist crap I don't see the point of modding trolls down (or even just humor that some people don't find funny).

Re:Only on slashdot... (0, Flamebait)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 8 years ago | (#15646296)

And you get modded "redundant" on first post.

Do you get a free mind scrambler with mod points these days? Perhaps a strong electric shock?

Re:Only on slashdot... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646419)

Yeah, but the original post was pretty shitty anyway.

Is it a vicious cycle? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646010)

I mean, are there more executives leaving MS because they don't have a chair to sit on? It can get hard on the feet.

Re:Was that... (5, Funny)

OmegaBlac (752432) | about 8 years ago | (#15646033)

Could also be the sound of hundreds of thousands of Slashdot geeks rushing to quickly type out a housand variations (there will be dupes of course) of the "Ballmer Tossing Chairs" jokes. Each starting with "And in Redmond...".

And in redmond... (2, Funny)

abscissa (136568) | about 8 years ago | (#15646199)

Could also be the sound of hundreds of thousands of Slashdot geeks rushing to quickly type out a housand variations (there will be dupes of course) of the "Ballmer Tossing Chairs" jokes. Each starting with "And in Redmond...".

Sounds like someone is throwing a chair because he didn't get the to post the first chair joke.

Re:Was that... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646092)

Gundotra worked at Microsoft as general manager for platform evangelism to get software developers to use Microsoft's software and online offerings.

Hope the fall back plan isn't Ballmer as platform evangelist: "Use Visual Studio or I'll f*cking kill you!"

Re:Was that... (0, Redundant)

alexandreracine (859693) | about 8 years ago | (#15646178)

the sound a chair being thrown?
* duck *

Re:Was that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646183)

Yup. It was thrown at you for being so unoriginal.

You know... (1)

Donniedarkness (895066) | about 8 years ago | (#15646191)

Off topic-I've always wondered what Ballmer would think if he was to read Slashdot. I think we'd probably have driven him away by now ^_^

What I want to know is this-- is Gundotra gonna get paid for the year that he's outta work?

Re:You know... (1, Funny)

WilliamSChips (793741) | about 8 years ago | (#15646245)

He'd probably throw a chair at Slashdot.

Re:Was that... (2, Insightful)

Frankie70 (803801) | about 8 years ago | (#15646228)


the sound a chair being thrown?

Almost died laughing. That was the first time I read that
joke on Slashdot.. .. .. ..
today .. .. ..
in this article.

the announcement (-1, Flamebait)

icepick72 (834363) | about 8 years ago | (#15645942)

Um ... excuse me Mr Ballmer ... um ... can we move to an office with no chairs, or lighter chairs please

Re:the announcement (3, Funny)

karnal (22275) | about 8 years ago | (#15645985)

I would think you'd rather have a chair that is so heavy Mr. Ballmer couldn't HIRE someone big enough to throw the thing...

I'm thinking 100lb cinderblocks replacing each of the wheels... You definitely don't want the wheels, because you don't want him to be able to roll the now 500lb+ chair at you.

Re:the announcement (2, Funny)

Blue Trapezoid (978067) | about 8 years ago | (#15646375)

He could always outsource the chair-throwing to India.

Re:the announcement (0, Troll)

TheDreadSlashdotterD (966361) | about 8 years ago | (#15646025)

Um ... excuse me Mr Ballmer ... um ... can we move to an office with no chairs, or lighter chairs please

No, you won't need to move, 'cause I'm going to fscking KILL YOU NOW!

Re:the announcement (5, Funny)

iced_773 (857608) | about 8 years ago | (#15646091)


No, no. "fsck" is a *nix command. Ballmer wouldn't say that.

Corrected quote:

No, you won't need to move, 'cause I'm going to chkdsking KILL YOU NOW!

Three words ... (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | about 8 years ago | (#15646047)

Nerf Lazy Boys.

Re:the announcement (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646327)

that's why MS has a hard time in Japan with their xbox 'cause the Japanese don't use chairs...

Great News (2, Insightful)

Azmodie (533657) | about 8 years ago | (#15645943)

More people leaving MS and oining Google means more google greatness :)

Re:Great News (1)

nicolas.kassis (875270) | about 8 years ago | (#15645988)

Or less. If Microsoft execs were so good, Why would slashdot bash a them so much. Oh wait I get it now ;-)

Re:Great News (5, Insightful)

vertinox (846076) | about 8 years ago | (#15646007)

More people leaving MS and oining Google means more google greatness :)

Unless of course Microsoft's plan all along was to slowly replace all Google employees with former Microsoft ones. And when the code word is leaked they'll all revolt and start a hostile takeover by Microsoft.

Of course the plan could back fire after the MS employees have their cold hearts melted by Google's love in some sort of 80's carebare-ish type of montage at the last moment.

Re:Great News (4, Funny)

WilliamSChips (793741) | about 8 years ago | (#15646254)

The only problem is that Google's Stargate is connected to Thor's Hammer [wikipedia.org] so that all the Microsoft execs' symbiotes are killed and the hosts are allowed to regain control.

Re:Great News (0, Redundant)

ijakings (982830) | about 8 years ago | (#15646049)

Im sorry but when did Microsoft become "Great" in the eyes of /.? Surely this is a bad thing? Its a conspiracy, Microsoft is sending over all its Management to take google down, My god, its Perfect!

Re:Great News (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646077)

Not really, MS is full of old dogs milking the company for money (execs) and the developers/testers left are the bottom run and make no money whatsoever.

Microsoft's glory days are over. MS is only a "career" move if you are a manager/envangelist/exec and then jump ship with your money and awards.

A company is fucked when employees go around being "visible" as their number one focus. Thats what working at MS is like, VISIBILITY VISIBILITY VISIBILITY. That is all. Thats how you are rated and promoted on your comitments (which includes "visibility") :)

No such thing as a "career" in IT, its a dogs industry. I myself want out.

Re:Great News, or is it? (1)

FractalZone (950570) | about 8 years ago | (#15646115)

Yeah, it is nice to see the rats abandoning the hopefully distressed capitol ship known as Microsoft, but does Google really benefit from hiring rats? Does Google really benefit, and does Google's userbase benefit, from an influx of ex-Microsofties and the kind of corporate mentality they will bring with them? Just wondering...

Re:Great News (3, Insightful)

iznogud (162711) | about 8 years ago | (#15646411)

When they are in MS, we see them as lazy, clumsy, evil, worst programmers in the world, etc. When they switch to Google, they suddenly becomes hottest programmers, managers, whatever in the Universe.

ANOTHER exec leaves??? (2, Insightful)

dlawson (209945) | about 8 years ago | (#15645944)

More jokes about flying chairs.

Re:ANOTHER exec leaves??? (1)

txuk (986400) | about 8 years ago | (#15645965)

people leave M$ > M$ Throw more chairs... Its a simple scheme by google to put M$'s furniture costs up for the next quater :P ...It's a costly hobby but im sure they can afford it.

Re:ANOTHER exec leaves??? (1)

owlnation (858981) | about 8 years ago | (#15646108)

Oh to be a shareholder in Chairs-r-us Redmond!

Re:ANOTHER exec leaves??? (1)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | about 8 years ago | (#15646137)

and only God knows how this will affect to the chairs market

Curious statement (4, Funny)

TubeSteak (669689) | about 8 years ago | (#15645948)

"We are uncertain what precise role he will play when he begins working for Google, but he has a broad range of skills and experience which we believe will be valuable to Google," Google spokesman Steve Langdon said in an e-mail statement.

Soo... the guy is going to take a year long vacation and then Google might know what job they're giving him?

Either Google is lying or they're poaching MS execs just to be dicks.

Re:Curious statement (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646006)

His job is probably to fuck google in the same way (mis)management has fucked MS. Great search engine but I don't really use much else because of the javascript requirement. I was actually pretty surprised the Google sitemap interface worked sans EvilCMA script.

I do think it's telling that all the senior staff on the good ship Redmond are manning the lifeboats. You can bet your bottom dollar that the investors are taking note of these defections, the tides appear to be turning on poor little Microsoft. I hope some of their vict^w former partners still harbour grudges, time to get polishing your boots folks!

Re:Curious statement (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | about 8 years ago | (#15646263)

GMail doesn't require Javascript except for advanced features. Hell, you don't even have to use the webmail interface.

Re:Curious statement (4, Interesting)

bladesjester (774793) | about 8 years ago | (#15646027)

Actually, if you think about it, it makes sense for a couple of reasons. He can't actively work for them for a year. This means two things:

1) If they had announced his position now, by the time he actually got the ability to work for them, the landscape may have changed and they will either have to put him somewhere else (to cries of "Google is teh evil" because they said one thing and did another) or keep him in the position which they origionally stated, thus keeping him out of a position in which he may have been even more productive.

2) If they announced his position now, that gives the competition time to plan around him. This is especially true of Microsoft, because they know him best since he worked for them for so long. They know how he thinks and the kind of direction he will attempt to give Google (which will depend on the position he fills). That is not something you want your opponant to know.

Re:Curious statement (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646087)

3) By announcing a position he is effectively 'working' or in preparation to begin 'work' in a role that competes against m$. Its in Googles best interest to ask him to go on faith for the year as it prevents a whole raft of legal issues they are bound to face.

Think of it this way ... if you employ someone and officially announce his role its harder to draw the distinction between working in an unrelated area, or working in preparation of that new role. When it comes to future court litigation you really want to make the distinction as obvious as possible. What Google wants to do is make sure that any work (either officially or privately) cannot be misinterpreted as competition, if he doesnt have a role then he has no direct responsibility or benefit from any such work since it is outside the scope of his employment.

Stupid I know ... but its really just an ass covering exercise, chances are he will be toiling away in the basement somewhere and either mothballing it or getting someone else to signoff on the work as their own. And dont tell me you wouldnt sell your grandmother to work in Googles basement :P

Re:Curious statement (2, Interesting)

Laura_DilDio (874259) | about 8 years ago | (#15646072)

Picking the low-hanging fruit is not being a dick.

Microsoft is at the proverbial crossroads. Their products have stagnated -- there's been no real innovation for the consumer. The company caters to industry, even at the expense of the consumer -- they are at risk of a backlash.

Bill is retiring, and Ballmer is viewed by many to be a goofball.

Google is simply exploiting a competitor's weakness.

Windows Vista had better be spectacular or Microsoft will be the next IBM. No company can stay at the top forever.

Re:Curious statement (0, Redundant)

MarkByers (770551) | about 8 years ago | (#15646100)

Windows Vista had better be spectacular or Microsoft will be the next IBM.

It doesn't matter. People will upgrade to Vista anyway, because they will have no choice (assuming they want to play DRM'd stuff).

Re:Curious statement (1)

squidsuk (850172) | about 8 years ago | (#15646202)

It doesn't matter. People will upgrade to Vista anyway, because they will have no choice (assuming they want to play DRM'd stuff).

Not I, then.

I have no need of DRM'd material, I'd sooner make my own content together with other like-minded Creative Commoners, and I can live without any material that comes with digital restrictions strings attached.

If that makes me a latter-day Amish, so be it.

good for public appearance (1)

porkThreeWays (895269) | about 8 years ago | (#15646265)

For competition purposes it would make perfect sense for them to do it just to be dicks. They could probably just pay this guy to wash cars in a tube top for all they care (that won't happen though because they treat their people right).

Google is genius. I think people may forget that sometimes. This guy leaving probably wouldn't affect MS products very much. I'm sure they'll replace him with a just as highly skilled person. However, it makes Microsoft look like fools. This is bad for public persona, consumer confidence, and stockholders. Whether it's true or not, in the public eye there looks like there's a mass exodus of employees from MS to Google. This is the type of sensationalism that tends to make CNN Money, CNBC, etc, etc. Google is extremely smart for understanding this.

I applaud google for kicking Microsoft in the groin where so many other companies have been unable to. Way to understand the media ;)

On a side note... does anyone know the actual count of employees who left MS for google?

1 year vacation (2, Interesting)

Iphtashu Fitz (263795) | about 8 years ago | (#15645952)

Not a bad deal. I'm sure Google will end up paying him for the 1 year vacation.

Re:1 year vacation (4, Insightful)

canuck57 (662392) | about 8 years ago | (#15646042)

Not a bad deal. I'm sure Google will end up paying him for the 1 year vacation.

It really shouldn't be that way. If a company can stick a no-compete on you, then it is they that should have to pay you during the period that you cannot work in your profession. And if you do not have a job at the end of that period, they still should pay you up to two times the length of the clause.

So if you work for a company, and have a 1 year no compete, they might have to pay you up to two years. The US and Canada being at will employment should work both ways equally.

Re:1 year vacation (1, Insightful)

thrillseeker (518224) | about 8 years ago | (#15646070)

It really shouldn't be that way. If a company can stick a no-compete on you, then it is they that should have to pay you during the period that you cannot work

Was someone holding a gun at your head when you accepted the contract?

Re:1 year vacation (1)

Andrzej Sawicki (921100) | about 8 years ago | (#15646291)

Was someone holding a gun at your head when you accepted the contract?
Probably not, but I wouldn't bet against chairs on this one.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Re:1 year vacation (1)

Breakfast Pants (323698) | about 8 years ago | (#15646083)

"If a company can stick a no-compete on you"

The company doesn't 'stick' anything on you; I'm sure he didn't have to take that promotion from some mid-level manager to executive.

developers (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15645953)

developers developers developers developers

Re:developers (3, Funny)

OmegaBlac (752432) | about 8 years ago | (#15646005)

chairs chairs chairs chairs...

developers!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646220)

developers developers developers developers

developers (clap) developers, developers developers (employ, beg) developers developers!! (Breathe) developers developers developers developers... developers developers, developers... developers developers!!! WOOOOOOO!!! GIVE IT UP FOR ME!!! COME ON STAND UP STAND UP!!!

Google has to watch out though ; (2, Interesting)

unity100 (970058) | about 8 years ago | (#15645957)

Back in '45, gestapo members were taken into then newly-forming cia. The next 40 years have been a period where cia was run like a watered-down gestapo.

Google has to watch out that the microsoft ex'es do not spoil the formation of 'do no evil' they got going on at google.

Its "don't be evil" (2, Informative)

ems2 (976335) | about 8 years ago | (#15646111)

The correct phrase is don't be evil. Check Google's site yourself [google.com] . It is surprising how many people can get a simple phrase like this incorrect.

Re:Its "don't be evil" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646231)

One doesn't have to be evil to do potentially evil things.

Re:Google has to watch out though ; (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646243)

"Google has to watch out that the microsoft ex'es do not spoil the formation of 'do no evil' they got going on at google.
"

Don't worry, Google have already blown that out of the water themselves.

Voluntarily blocking Chinese access to large volumes of data, anyone?

Do no evil / Don't be evil indeed. Google are just like every other company out there

Re:Google has to watch out though ; (1)

bcat24 (914105) | about 8 years ago | (#15646358)

Which is better for the Chinese, a censored Google, or no Google at all due to firewalling? I guess it's just a matter of opinion.

Re:Google has to watch out though ; (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646308)

Back in '45, gestapo members were taken into then newly-forming cia.

Bullshit. I challenge you to provide even one piece of evidence for this, Mr. Liar.

Too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646412)

Google has to watch out that the microsoft ex'es do not spoil the formation of 'do no evil' they got going on at google.

When they went public, they sold their souls. Inevitably, they will have no choice but to do evil.

Eating One's Own Dog Food (3, Insightful)

Distinguished Hero (618385) | about 8 years ago | (#15645967)

"Vic Gundotra ... has left the company to join Google. Gundotra worked at Microsoft as general manager for platform evangelism to get software developers to use Microsoft's software and online offerings." Hehe. I wonder how devoted he was to the job of "platform evangelism" given his willingness to defect / commit apostasy.

Ballmer hits the kill switch (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15645976)

Yes. Previous story is accurate. It can't shut down your computer, but WGA has other tricks up its sleeves.

What a visionary point of view (2, Informative)

KarMax (720996) | about 8 years ago | (#15645978)

"We are uncertain what precise role he will play when he begins working for Google, but he has a broad range of skills and experience which we believe will be valuable to Google,"
This catch my attention, i dont see too many companies with that insightfull and visionary view. (IMO it's amazing).


The link seems down here is the CC Mirror [nyud.net] . I can grab directly from the front page (I use Slashdotter, the firefox extension).

Re:What a visionary point of view (1)

Timesprout (579035) | about 8 years ago | (#15646017)

Maybe it more cynical that then, the more disruption Google can cause to MS management i.e. by luring people away, the easier it is for Google to compete with them. Not to mention fact they expand their knowledge of the inner goings on and future plans of MS.

The rats are abandoning the sinking ship? (0, Offtopic)

Petri Lagren (918096) | about 8 years ago | (#15645993)

Well... one can dream, right?

My take on this (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15645994)

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/politics/carcrush.as p [snopes.com]

Motherfuck racist bitch asshole Ray Nagin straight to hell. There can be no dispute that he single handedly fucked the people of New Orleans in the ass as he laughed about their loss.

Re:My take on this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646014)

Racist? But he's a black guy, right?

Re:My take on this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646130)

Yeah. Oh, so now blacks can't be racist? Man, people are fucking stupid.

So thing Gundotra guy thinks ... (0)

bitsformoney (514101) | about 8 years ago | (#15646018)

that Google will still be around in one year? Hm.

Re:So thing Gundotra guy thinks ... (1)

MarkByers (770551) | about 8 years ago | (#15646064)

Of course Google will be here in 1 year's time. What about Microsoft though? ;)

I heard Balmer was so mad... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646021)

Instead of a chair, he threw an entire desk!

Non-compete? Ugh. (5, Insightful)

Wylfing (144940) | about 8 years ago | (#15646024)

The Fine Summary sayeth:

he will need to wait one year before starting his new job because of a non-compete clause in his contract

That drives me insane. I had an employer once who tried to "get" me regarding a non-compete agreement, to wit he accused me of going after his customers. The problem was that no one could be excluded from that group -- he believed everyone on the planet was his customer. That's what I see when I read this. Google does not make operating systems or desktop software, they are a freakin' search company, and MS is not a search company. Yet MS identifies them as a competitor, just like they identify every company in existence as their competitor.

Re:Non-compete? Ugh. (2, Informative)

enclaved (570296) | about 8 years ago | (#15646056)

Google does not make operating systems or desktop software, they are a freakin' search company, and MS is not a search company. Yet MS identifies them as a competitor, just like they identify every company in existence as their competitor.

Google Desktop [google.com]

Windows Live Search [live.com]

I could probably go on and on about the products both companies make that directly compete with one another. MSN messenger Gtalk Hotmail Gmail etc etc.

Re:Non-compete? Ugh. (1)

Null537 (772236) | about 8 years ago | (#15646079)

they are a freakin' search company, and MS is not a search company.

...*cough* [msn.com]

Re:Non-compete? Ugh. (1)

Millenniumman (924859) | about 8 years ago | (#15646124)

They don't identity Burger King as a competitor.

Re:Non-compete? Ugh. (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | about 8 years ago | (#15646281)

They don't identity Burger King as a competitor.
...Yet. Just wait until they acquire McDonalds and make it MicroDonalds.

Re:Non-compete? Ugh. (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | about 8 years ago | (#15646351)

Those agreements usually say competitors, customers or supplies.

Burker king counts!

Re:Non-compete? Ugh. (2, Insightful)

martinussen (986404) | about 8 years ago | (#15646132)

Google does not make operating systems or desktop software, they are a freakin' search company, and MS is not a search company. Yet MS identifies them as a competitor, just like they identify every company in existence as their competitor.
If a company is a threat to their current portfolio has never been very important to Microsoft. Remember why IE was crufted together in the first place? Netscape wasn't a direct threat to Microsoft (granted, the existence of a familiar browser on a different platform would make it much more appealing to switch), but they were the New Great Thing. And the existence of New Great Things shows people that it's possible to compete with the big guys. There are several bloody good reasons for Microsoft to fear Google. One, they are a major threat to the MSN search engine. Two, they are rapidly expanding and making substitutes for current Microsoft products, mostly web-based. It is only a question of time before the two companies are competing over the same niches. Three, Google keeps "stealing" their employees and are hiring excellent engineers who could otherwise have been making stuff for Microsoft.

non-compete? (1)

SideshowBob (82333) | about 8 years ago | (#15646032)

Aren't those are unenforceable in California?

Re:non-compete? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646163)

Yes.

Re:non-compete? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646261)

I'm a lawyer posting anonymously. The answer, in a nutshell, is not entirely. There are circumstances under which non-competes can be enforced. In this instance, I'm guessing that Microsoft is still paying Vic for the year he's not working, e.g. they can buy his noncompete by paying severance. The idea behind not allowing noncompetes in CA is to allow ppl the opportunity to earn a living, not so much a guaranteed right to work starting on day one.

Re:non-compete? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646340)

Another lawyer here. Cal Business and Professions Code 16601 has been read to allow noncompetes from other states to apply when an employee moves to CA. For example, Vic signed a noncompete in Washington valid under Washington law. He can't get around it by moving to California. Them's the breaks.

He'll need that year (4, Funny)

zecg (521666) | about 8 years ago | (#15646040)

Company policy all of a sudden not allowing him to be evil must be quite a thing to adapt to after Microsoft.

it's (1)

present_arms (848116) | about 8 years ago | (#15646078)

like rats jumping ship :)) (i'm not saying she is a rat btw)

Re:He'll need that year (1)

owlnation (858981) | about 8 years ago | (#15646169)

Company policy all of a sudden not allowing him to be evil must be quite a thing to adapt to after Microsoft.
Yes, this could be a challenge, especially considering his MS job title - General Manager for Platform Evangelism.

I find it hard enough to view "evangelism" as being a positive concept in any context; to my mind it seems closely akin to brainwashing. So to be in charge of that for MS... urg...it just sends shivers down my spine...

How many lights can you see...drink the Koolaid...how many lights...Bill is your friend...how many lights...

Power doesn't come out of the barrel of a gun (5, Insightful)

hey! (33014) | about 8 years ago | (#15646110)

Chairman Mao's mordant quip notwithstanding.

No.

Power comes from the perception arising in the brains of others that you've got power.

Even more so, it comes from the perception that you are gaining more of it in the future. It's almost as if the human mind projects the trends outward and tries to jump on the right bandwagon. I experienced this in the 80s and early 90s as people began to abandon other platforms for Windows. There was almost a sense of panic, that if you didn't get in soon enough you would be crushed.

It follows that if the perception starts that you are losing power, you will lose it, and people will think about the consequences of tying themselves to you for too long. Lenin captured an empire pretty with little more than an audacious show of confidence in the face of deflating imperial fortunes.

Microsoft's mind share survived the massive storm of the antitrust suit. But that was easy. But a steady trickle of news of people going over to a competitor with growing mindshare and momentum hurts them far beyond whatever those individuals could posisbly to them working for the competition. In the context of the Vista delays, a trickle of executives jumping ship tends to look the vanguard of the proverbial rats.

1 year non-comp?? (2, Insightful)

bogidu (300637) | about 8 years ago | (#15646136)

That's amazing. Many companies use this 1-year non-comp clause in their employment agreements that are usually nothing more than a way to lock employees into working for their company and effectively holding them hostage to whatever salary range that they originally agree. Only those select few individuals that make god-like salaries have the ability to quit a job, wait a year, then start with a new company.

The real question... (-1, Troll)

wbren (682133) | about 8 years ago | (#15646142)

The real question is: will Google be in a position to hire people in a year? Or will this bubble burst before then?

Easy questions (1)

MarkByers (770551) | about 8 years ago | (#15646249)

Yes. No.

Coming soon to a theatre near you. (0, Offtopic)

elgee (308600) | about 8 years ago | (#15646143)

Attack of the Killer Klowns from the Planet Redmond.

Tagged chairthrowing (1, Offtopic)

scwizard (941758) | about 8 years ago | (#15646168)

I officially love slashdot's tagging system. It's really accurate and descriptive.

Dear Steve Ballmer... (3, Funny)

Comatose51 (687974) | about 8 years ago | (#15646174)

Dear Steve Ballmer,

At the rate Microsoft is losing executives to Google, you might be wondering how Microsoft is going to fill its ranks in the near future. Have no fear. I represent a client who have decades of managing large scale operations. His track record of coming up with complex plans for achieving great goals and his resiliency after failures speak for themselves. Most importantly, I can guarantee you that he will never, ever join Google because, like Microsoft, he too is inherently evil and hellbent on world domination.

I give you, Dr. Evil.

Best wishes,
-Headhunter Inc.

Re:Dear Steve Ballmer... (2, Funny)

ms1234 (211056) | about 8 years ago | (#15646343)

From the description I was expecting Darl.. :)

Re:Dear Steve Ballmer... (1)

Comatose51 (687974) | about 8 years ago | (#15646374)

Evil though he may be, MSFT also wants competence. Darl and the SCO crew would be disqualified based on that alone.

If he chose to leave... it's his own damn fault. (4, Interesting)

mark-t (151149) | about 8 years ago | (#15646194)

Non-competes are often very easy to enforce the person left his earlier job voluntarily.

They are quite tricky to enforce if it can be shown that the change in careers was not completely voluntary, however. (Either being let go for reasons beyond the employee's control, he was under duress, constructive dismissal, etc...).

I'm gunna ****ing kill (3, Funny)

DittoBox (978894) | about 8 years ago | (#15646200)

I'm gunna ****ing kill those chair jokes! I've done it before and I'll do it again. I'm gunna ****ing kill those ****ing chair jokes!!

POLL: Future career prospects for Steve Ballmer... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646201)

  1. Uncle Fester look-alike
  2. Furniture mover



Cast your votes now!

platform evangelism? (5, Funny)

alexandreracine (859693) | about 8 years ago | (#15646213)

Gundotra worked at Microsoft as general manager for platform evangelism...
What's that? Now you have to pray for your Microsoft software to work correcly?

Chair Companies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646285)

In other news, the suppliers of office chairs to Microsoft have recently become millionairs.

No chairs will be thrown over this departure (2, Insightful)

melted (227442) | about 8 years ago | (#15646384)

No chairs will be thrown over this departure. The dude was a bullshit master. And not just that, but he was managing other bullshit masters, which kind of means he didn't have much time to spout bullshit outside MSFT. There are millions of bullshit masters in the US, especially if you pay them Gundotra's salary. Chairs will be thrown if senior engineering staff (of Bosworth and Lucovsky level) departs. Those folks are harder to replace and Google should start targeting them instead if they want to piss off Ballmer.

plnus 1, Troll) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15646398)

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