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Porn Dominates the Spam Battlefield

timothy posted more than 8 years ago | from the bus-plunges-off-ravine dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "New York Times has published an article that explores the economics that control what type of spam shows up in your inbox. The study was done by CipherTrust and shows that porn spam is 280 times more effective than spam advertising pharmacy drugs. Paul Judge offered the following towards an explanation: 'If you look at some of the oldest and most successful forms of business on earth, they revolve around sex.'"

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Combo Ads (5, Funny)

neonprimetime (528653) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666658)

pron spam is 280 times more effective than spam advertising pharmacy drugs

I prefer the Combo ads, where it tries to sell you Viagra and shows you pictures of who you could use it on.

Re:Combo Ads (2, Interesting)

insideyourhalo (591645) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666723)

Better still is when the ads geolocate and give you a nice personal message refering to a town that doesnt even exist outside of a dot on a map. I have seen many ads to a local "town" that is literally a post office.

sort of depends (1)

not_a_product_id (604278) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667140)

I mean, if it it's the goatse man

Duh (4, Funny)

l5rfanboy (977086) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666659)

Snake oil is snake oil, but free boobies? PRICELESS

Re:Duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666691)

Someone should send out spam emails explaining how to get free porn.

It imagine it basically consisting of a USENET tutorial and a bittorrent primer with a list of the best torrent sites for porn.

Re:Duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15667033)

Shhhh....

The first rule of Usenet is that you don't. talk. about. Usenet.

Re:Duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15667093)

"Snake oil is snake oil, but free boobies? PRICELESS"

Actually they're free.

porn spam (1)

ScottLindner (954299) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666678)

We all get it and I'm sure we mostly delete it on the spot with all other SPAM. But I have to admit, if they were to give just a few "freebies" in the SPAM message itself they might be more effective. I mean.. I see a stupid head line, deliberately poor English and a cryptic URL that is typically broken by Outlook Express. Don't make me work for it! :-)

Seriously.. I've been getting more high risk stock SPAMs lately. Almost seems like a securities fraud case waiting to happen.

Re:porn spam (3, Funny)

jacksonj04 (800021) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666700)

What about us poor souls who use the preview mode which only shows a couple of lines of text only? We miss out on the free pics because all we see is something like "Algorithm Leotard Temple Quantum Holiday FR3E P-0R.N!" (An actual line from my spam bin).

Re:porn spam (5, Funny)

Willy Wong (905014) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666744)

The best spam email I ever got was the one saying "Genuine fake rolexes"

Re:porn spam (1)

LunaticTippy (872397) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666937)

I've been getting a lot of stock spam too. I checked several of them and sure enough, many of them go up the day I got the spam then down, down, down. Classic pump-and-dump. If only it were closer to 100% reliable I'd start shorting the stock when I get the spam.

Re:porn spam (1)

ScottLindner (954299) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667001)

I never bothered to check into it. I can't believe people are stupid enough to do it. You'd hope they realize that whoever is sending these things already bought their shares before the email went out.

Can't wait until the FTC gets involved. It probably won't take very long to figure out who's working in syndicate on this SPAM scheme. They're going to get hurt pretty hard. I mean.. after a while they will be able to figure out who is buying just before these SPAMs go out and start putting together the syndication. It may take a while, but they're going to get hurt pretty hard unless they stop it before it becomes noticeable enough for the FTC to get involved. Hmm.. maybe I should stop reporting these messages to spamcop.net and start reporting them to the FTC?

Re:porn spam (1)

LunaticTippy (872397) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667101)

It's worth trying.

I'm skeptical, since real analysts publish shady findings in real publications and make illicit profits without getting busted. Much.

Re:porn spam (2, Interesting)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667219)

"It probably won't take very long to figure out who's working in syndicate on this SPAM scheme. They're going to get hurt pretty hard. I mean.. after a while they will be able to figure out who is buying just before these SPAMs go out and start putting together the syndication."

Well, the NSA has their - emails, phone records, and bank records - it shouldn't take them too long.

Re:porn spam (1)

bcmm (768152) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667058)

The scary thing about stock tip spam ("XXXXX set to rocket on Wednesday!!!") is that presumably enough suckers buy it that it really does increase in price.

I suspect that the spammers or their contacts buy stock just before sending out the spam, wait for the price to be artificially inflated by thousands of idiots who think they've accidentally received a valuable tip intended for someone else buying it all up, then sell shortly before the rise they promised happens (as this is when the fools realise that they've been tricked and start cutting their losses).

Well no shit (4, Insightful)

grasshoppa (657393) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666679)

Seriously, is this news to anyone? All it takes to learn this is to flip on the TV to any station. Christ, even the local catholic church station. You'll notice they put the prettiest girl they have up on the tube. Why do you think that is?

Sex sells. I love it when they do this on religion stations especially.

Re:Well no shit (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666795)

The news isn't that sex sells, it's that sex sells at a rate 280 times higher than that of its closest competitor.

Actually... (4, Insightful)

TCQuad (537187) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667063)

The news isn't that sex sells, it's that sex sells at a rate 280 times higher than that of its closest competitor.

The closest competitor is pharmaceuticals (e.g., ads for Viagra/Cialis/Levitra).

So it's not just that sex sells at a rate 280 times higher than that of its closest competitor, it's that sex sells at a rate 280 times higher than that of its closest competitor, which is also sex.

all spam is sex (1)

LunaticTippy (872397) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667021)

I think all my spam is about sex. Porn is simply the most blatant.

Pills? Get harder, hairier, whateverer in order to get sex.
Make Money Fast? Attract sex partners with all that dough.
Fake rolex? attract idiotic materialistic sex partners with that bogus bling.
Collidge Degree Quik? Attract the bookworm type with your misspelt diploma.

Seriously, can anyone think of spam that doesn't convert to sex?

Re:all spam is sex (1)

Alexandra Erenhart (880036) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667129)

That's not spam problem. That's the problem with human focus. Hey, we're here to breed, so everthing we do is related to it, openly or disguised. It doesn't surprise me.

Re:all spam is sex (3, Insightful)

LunaticTippy (872397) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667270)

Sports spectatorship and war don't have much of a sex-link, but are both huge business. I don't get any spam along those lines.

Re:all spam is sex (1)

Phisbut (761268) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667167)

Seriously, can anyone think of spam that doesn't convert to sex?

Seriously, if you're a hetero man, can you think of anything you do that doesn't have "a slight probability of having sex" as a motive? The whole point of living is sex, no?

Re:all spam is sex (1)

LunaticTippy (872397) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667291)

1. Going camping with some friends.
2. Eating cheetos.
3. Fixing my mom's computer.

Other than that, it's all about sex.

beauty and sex (1)

Kunta Kinte (323399) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667028)

You'll notice they put the prettiest girl they have up on the tube. Why do you think that is?

Sex sells. I love it when they do this on religion stations especially.

Does human beauty always allude to sex?

Beauty is a broad concept. And appeals to us in many different ways.

Here's something from Wikipedia on beauty [wikipedia.org] ( I really hate to throw obvious Wiki quotes around, but people sometimes don't do the basic background research themselves )...

An "object of beauty" may be anything that reveals or resonates with a personal meaning. Hence religious and moral teachings have often focused on the divinity and virtue of beauty, to assert natural beauty as an aspect of a spiritual beauty (ie. truth) and to define all self-centered or materialistic pretensions as based in ignorance....

Paintings can be beautiful, so can Sunset, cars, locations, children. Don't you think your mother is beautiful?

In summary, I'd argue that beauty is basically implies a pleasant fascination in something. The exact nature of the feeling depends a lot on the situation.

Re:beauty and sex (1)

grasshoppa (657393) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667110)

While interesting, you'll notice I said pretty. And generally, pretty alludes to attractiveness, which is key to sex.

Re:beauty and sex (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667179)

And generally, pretty alludes to attractiveness, which is key to sex.
 
Not for many, if the attractiveness of some of the women my housemate have woken up to are any bearing.

And what is not to love about the Hoffmeister?

Re:Well no shit (1)

edunbar93 (141167) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667032)

even the local catholic church station.

What do you mean *even*? You don't know any Catholics, do you?

Hmmm .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15667214)

"Christ, even the local catholic church station. You'll notice they put the prettiest girl they have up on the tube. Why do you think that is?"

- They were out of boys?
- Because the prettiest boys were helping Father Jim with his frock?
- The prettiest girl is the one whose oral skills the TV producers like to capture with their cameras?

Sorry, my bar mitzvah stand-up calendar is all full for now ...

yeah? (1, Funny)

MrSquirrel (976630) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666680)

All your spam are belong to porn!

5.6% Click-Through Rate? (2, Insightful)

gvc (167165) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666684)

I like the unsubstantiated side-bar claiming that porn spam had a 5.6% click-through rate. I suppose that's 5.6% of delivered spam? How could this possibly be measured? I'm not saying it can't be approximated but a sidebar and a couple of quotes are hardly sufficient evidence.

Doomed (3, Insightful)

Alfred, Lord Tennyso (975342) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666741)

My God, I hope that number is inflated. The economics of spam are always based on, "Well, even if only 1/100 of 1% results in a purchase, it's profitable for them". If 5.6% of porn spams actually are actually clicked through, it means that spam is getting way, way more attention than the threshold, and the spams are never going away, even though only a fraction of those click-throughs result in sales. Crap.

(Looking is, for the most part, free, except that if you're clicking through porn spam you're probably doing it on an un-updated version of IE, and now you're relaying spam, too.)

Re:Doomed (1)

RingDev (879105) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666859)

Unless you don't have a local mail client ;) I really wonder how many of these issues I avoid completely by relying on web mail...

-Rick

Re:5.6% Click-Through Rate? (4, Informative)

Respawner (607254) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666776)

If i'm not mistaken the img's from spam isn't included in the email itself, but it's on a webserver, so if you simply count the number of send spam vs number of unique visitors to those img's you have the delivery rate, check those ip's against the ip's of the people following the link and you not only have the click-through rate, but you also have the number of people who click-through more then once ;-)

Re:5.6% Click-Through Rate? (1)

schon (31600) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666877)

Oh come on - surely you're not implying that spammers lie are you?

Re:5.6% Click-Through Rate? (1)

gvc (167165) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666897)

No, I'm implying (actually saying flat-out) that spam filter vendors lie to the press, and the press (including Slashdot) eat it up like candy. This isn't the first and won't be the last "product placement" Slashdot article.

Re:5.6% Click-Through Rate? (1)

LoyalOpposition (168041) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666906)

I like the unsubstantiated side-bar claiming that porn spam had a 5.6% click-through rate. I suppose that's 5.6% of delivered spam? How could this possibly be measured? I'm not saying it can't be approximated but a sidebar and a couple of quotes are hardly sufficient evidence.

They probably got that from an email. You know? BUY our Unsolicited Marketing Email package and get a guaranteed 5.6%* click through rate!

* Only guaranteed for pr0n. Other types of email may have a different click-through rate.

-Loyal

Backslash (1)

neonprimetime (528653) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666687)

I hope timothy [monkey.org] creates a backslash [slashdot.org] article on /. for this one! So we can talk about it twice [slashdot.org] !

In a word... (4, Funny)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666689)

In a word... "duh".

What is going to grab anyone's attention more? "We ship quadraphexametaline to your door for a flat rate of $9.99 - click here to order" or "18 year old Mariana Gottemoff does immoral things with a bearclaw - click here to view"

Re:In a word... (1)

Bacon Bits (926911) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666828)

No, no. This is the Internet. The proper word is "ORLY?".

Re:In a word... (2, Funny)

edunbar93 (141167) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667073)

What is going to grab anyone's attention more? "We ship quadraphexametaline to your door for a flat rate of $9.99 - click here to order"

Clearly, they're missing out on something here. They need shorter brand names to use instead of chemical names. Like "Roofies" or "Crystal Meth".

That would sell for sure. :)

Re:In a word... (1)

writermike (57327) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667212)

"18 year old Mariana Gottemoff does immoral things with a bearclaw - click here to view"

Actually, it kind of depends on the bearclaw.

Animal or Pastry?

how to stop 99.99% of spam in the r.o.t.w (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666693)


simply filter the $ symbol, i did this at home and spam disappeared overnight never to return and as my company has no dealings with anyone using that currency it didnt stop any legit mail from getting through

now if only Gmail would let me do the same we will be onto a winner

Re:how to stop 99.99% of spam in the r.o.t.w (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666929)

Hmmm...

M[DollarSign] doesn't have the same ring to it.

Foreign languages (1)

grahamsz (150076) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667221)

I wish gmail would let you block foreign languages. I get a lot of chinese and korean spam and even if it wasn't spam i wouldn't be able to read it.

However, these filters are really unfortunate for people who do work in things like the mortgage business... they have lots of problems with spam filters catching their email.

Couldn't RTFA (5, Funny)

CPT Carl (222361) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666694)

I've gone blind and can't see my monitor. Plus my palm is too hairy to click the mouse.

Its not just the spam, dial my sig...

Other remarkable breaking news.... (1)

Z1NG (953122) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666697)

And another stunning news report: the sky is blue.

Re:Other remarkable breaking news.... (0, Troll)

bcat24 (914105) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666743)

O RLY?

Re:Other remarkable breaking news.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666815)

That's not the only thing turning blue. Goodness, these emails are great.

I must be too old (4, Funny)

joshv (13017) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666710)

I must be too old, all I get are c 1 a l a s and v 1 @ g r 4 SPAM. Perhaps if I bought some, then I'd start getting porn spam so I could put my prescription to good use...

Re:I must be too old (1)

Alexandra Erenhart (880036) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666959)

hey, I get tons of those too, and I'm a WOMAN... I have no use for cialis!! Plus I not either OLD. Stupid spam. At least if they spammed me with more female-focused pr0n or even hentai I'd kinda look at it... but I'm not really interested in buying drugs to help me get a hard-on. But is called spam for some reason. No real market target, so they go for what they think is the most common user: males in their 16-40

Re:I must be too old (1)

laffer1 (701823) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667076)

I've read statistics in the past saying women use the internet more than men. Perhaps more men are stupid enough to click on spam?

Re:I must be too old (1)

Alexandra Erenhart (880036) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667150)

Must be what someone else said on a post below. When men think with their other head, they do stupid things. And because females don't have that, they're harder to lure, at least with porn. Females fall with other kinds of offerings.

Re:I must be too old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15667142)

they go for what they think is the most common user : males in their 16-40
I think you mean 10-*

A good one I received today (2, Funny)

dema (103780) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666712)

I have one email address that gets tons of spam everyday, here's a nice random grab (:

From: "Lauren Tom"
Subject: New and hot ladybo y see all of them
Date: Wed, July 5, 2006 11:28 pm

Hot and new s h e m a l e Recently added p
o r n Modern girls like to grant their wish with enormous frankfurters they have
rush inside and enjoy http://www.asianlb.com/ [asianlb.com] This woman has very huge bolt in her
pants She has knob under her dress and knows how to use it correctly
These exceptional ladies will bring Inimitable amusement for all who visits them
Keen scenes of ladyboys who divert near you are the best to observe

suprise suprise its an American site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666772)

seems Spamhaus is right 80% of spam is by Americans

Name: Digital Assets inc
Last Name: Digital Assets inc
Address: Us Gadsden AL 256 543 7442
City: Gadsden
State: Al
Zip Code: 15769
Country: US
Company:

Re:A good one I received today (1)

T_ConX (783573) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666813)

I wonder if the name has anything to do with this Lauren Tom [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:A good one I received today (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15667155)

enormous frankfurters they have

Now even Yoda is getting in on the spam business...

porn and new media (0, Offtopic)

kisrael (134664) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666714)

They say porn is one of the early drivers of new visual media, from the printing press to moves to cable to video and dvd to the internet.

Re:porn and new media (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666926)

The parent may not have been particularly insightful, but I don't see how it was off topic. Moderators should have a "remove last moderation" option.

Key line from TFA (4, Insightful)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666724)

Mr. deSouza pointed out that many spammers work on contract for other people's businesses. "If you're contracted by a company that sells watches or drugs, you might be perfectly happy spamming about watches or drugs," he said.

Very true, and this is why I've said for a long time that if we ever want to do anything about spam, there's a way to do it without infringing on anyone's freedom of speech: follow the money. You have the right to send any e-mail you want, including spam, and that's the way it should be. You do not have the right to commit other crimes -- e.g. fraud, practicing medicine without a license, etc. -- just because it's "DIFFERENT, this is on the INTERNET." Go after the people who are paying the bills, and most of the "spam kings" will find themselves out of business in short order.

Re:Key line from TFA (2, Insightful)

djmurdoch (306849) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666945)

You have the right to send any e-mail you want, including spam, and that's the way it should be.

No, you don't have that right, and you shouldn't. It's my mailbox, and you can't use it without my permission.

Go after the people who are paying the bills, and most of the "spam kings" will find themselves out of business in short order.

In your world, where everyone has a right to put something in my mailbox, you'll just start getting mainstream ads instead of scams. I don't want to live in that world.

No just sex (4, Insightful)

wbean (222522) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666725)

Certainly sex has been at the heart of a lot of new industries -- Polaroid cameras, VCRs, Internet, camcorders but it isn't the only common thread shared by the spam in my 'junk' mailbox. Almost all of the offers are either illegal or of dubious legality. Fake Rolex watches, under-the-counter drugs, porn, financial scams. The thing that they all have in common is that they cannot advertise through legitimate channels. Spam is the electronic eqivalent of the guy in the trench coat hanging out in the dark alley who makes a furtive offer under his breath as you walk by.

Re:No just sex (1)

Alexandra Erenhart (880036) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666983)

With the difference that the dark alley isn't yours, so that guy isn't really using your space to sell. Not like spam, which actually uses your mail capacity. Well, in the gmail era, some MBs of spam is nothing, but at least when the mails had from 1MB to 25MB top, it was horrible.

Basic Human Needs (4, Interesting)

aymanh (892834) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666728)

Porn spam is common and effective because sex is one of the basic human needs [wikipedia.org] , so it's natural that more people are attracted to porn spam than Rolex watches for example. This is what first came to my mind when I read the title, and it turned out the article revolves around this idea.

The article requires login by the way, and BugMeNot [bugmenot.com] comes to the rescue.

Re:Basic Human Needs (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666835)

I don't know that porn spam is all that common. Thanks to someone deciding to use my domain in their forged From: headers, I now get a couple of thousand spams per day. I don't read through them all (of course!), but the majority are for fake Rolex watches and similar, medication, home loans and degrees. I can only remember ever getting a very small handful of porn spams (less than a dozen).

Of course, YMMV.

Re:Basic Human Needs (1)

Detritus (11846) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667229)

Consider yourself lucky. I used a throwaway Yahoo Mail account to register with a questionable web site. Ever since, I've been bombarded with porn spam, every day. They also ignore all unsubscribe requests, even though they claim to honor them and obey all laws on bulk email.

Duh! Which would you click?! (1)

Tribbin (565963) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666729)

Which would you click?

A man showing off his muscles with a shrunken dick in a 'ball-squizer' advertizing a big bottle with pills, or, spread leggs.

Hmmm, interesting idea... (5, Insightful)

celotil (972236) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666731)

Paul Judge offered the following towards an explanation: 'If you look at some of the oldest and most successful forms of business on earth, they revolve around sex.'"

Well, duh . :)

Look at how we were put together. Whether you're a Christian - "Go forth and multiply" - or simply following simple biological design, we were born to breed, all life is.

Using porn - the modern, supposedly "illicit" form of personal pleasure that doesn't involve the use of exterior drugs (not produced by the body) - marketing appeals to our basest instincts. How could it go wrong?

Re:Hmmm, interesting idea... (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666774)

How could it go wrong?

Because the Magic Book says so.

Makes sense (0, Troll)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666738)

And why not? When a guy thinks with his other head, he tends to make rash and usually flawed decisions. So you let him do the thinking with that and voila, gravy train. Come on, should this be a shock?

Couldn't read the article (I don't subscribe to the NY Crimes [and I was calling it that long before Congress got into the act]) but did they do a breakdown by gender, because of course all the porno spam seems to be aimed at men, so I would think that they would be affected 20 times as much as women. Perhaps there's a new, untapped spam market: porno for women.

Re:Makes sense (2, Funny)

nelsonal (549144) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666858)

Yeah, but who wants to type a whole romance novel in which the heroine meets a bad boy, sleeps with him until they break up and return to reveal he has both a heart of gold and a boat full of it, too!

Porn vs. Medicines (2, Interesting)

acoster (812556) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666745)

They also forgot to consider a few points: 1. Someone who wants prescription drugs will either buy on a pharmacy (usually cheaper), or probably ask someone they know before taking into account that weird email that sells X4N4*, z0l0f7 and other medicines. 2. Most people tend to ignore those spams (from pharmacies), as most of the people don't care about that, whereas when it comes to porn, well, one always get a freebie on the website... and everybody loves porn ;)

Porn spam stories (4, Funny)

krell (896769) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666746)

From the looks of it, porn spam news items on Slashdot are a lot more successful than medical spam news items.

A very simple reason (2, Interesting)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666768)

With naked boobies, you can send a sample. Most people are already quite happy to LOOK at some of those milk bars, they needn't swallow to enjoy it.

It's different with pharmacies.

And, don't forget, there's always the hope that you might get free pr0n. Maybe just one or two pics, but hey! Free v14gr4, that's unheard of. Not even a pill.

Not that I'd need it, I just recently enhanced my malehood! I got a new sports car...

No kidding about porn... (3, Interesting)

TomTraynor (82129) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666777)

I have been keeping tally on one of my 'freebie' accounts since June last year.

2005:
    Porn = 651
    Legit = 1,017
    Spam = 302
    Phishing = 59

So for for 2006:
    Porn = 1,587
    Legit = 870
    Spam = 1,713
    Phishing = 74

Curious (1)

kanzels (975208) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666781)

I'm just curious if there's somebody who bought something after seeing such spam. Isn't it just waste of time and bandwidth?

Re:Curious (1)

T_ConX (783573) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666887)

If people are doing it, then there is at least someone who is buying this stuff. Spam doesn't cost a lot to produce, so even if you send out spam to six figures worth of addresses... it doesn't cost you much. If just a few of those come back with orders for whatever your selling, then you could make some money.

Internet porn, works the same way. Spam a link to a small thumb gallery with offers of getting a full movie with a $20 a month membership. Some will resist the temptation, others will not... Profit!

Re:Curious (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666927)

Spam is like pollution and environmental destruction. It doesn't make any difference that you are wasting precious air, water and soil resources, so long as you get all the benefits, and somebody else pays most or all of the costs.

So, if somebody else is paying for the bandwidth, there is no such thing as a figure that constitutes "practically nobody" that is distinct from "exactly zero". For practical purposes, if you spend an hour on an add that a million people see and only a hundred respond to, you've spent your time reasonably profitably. If you had to pay a magazine or television network for a million eyeballs, you'd need a lot more buyers.

Gasp! (3, Funny)

spykemail (983593) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666783)

What? The internet is for porn? Say it ain't so!

Seriously, it's all people think about, though perhaps not actively. Sure we love technology, but even when I'm using Mac OS X every few seconds my brain strays to thoughts like "I wish I knew a beatiful woman who uses Mac OS X" or "wow, some naked female professional tennis players could really spruce up the next OS X commercial."

what if?? (2, Insightful)

westfalen (169035) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666814)

hmm, maybe the click rates would be higher if the drug ads offered free porn if you went to their website?

in any case this article is really missing the point - people just don't buy drugs over the internet - duh! drugs from an unknown source can be deadly, whereas porn is harmless and a relatively established internet business.

No page hits (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666849)

If you're going to get any ad revenue off this story you're going to have to explain this 'sex' thing to your typical readers.

*case in point* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666852)

WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Of course it's 280 (1)

Bromskloss (750445) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666857)

porn spam is 280 times more effective than spam advertising pharmacy drugs
I click on zero drug spams, and 280 times as much on porn spam. Who on earth falls for spam?! Don't they (the spams) shout "I will fool you!" high enough?

Re:Of course it's 280 (1)

Davey McDave (926282) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667232)

Uh, wouldn't that be you clicked on one drug spam, and 280 porn spams?

Spam battlefield? (1)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666870)

I don't remember the last time I got spam... Yup, couple of weeks ago. It's hardly the problem it was.

 

At last! (0, Offtopic)

palad1 (571416) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666874)

Victory is mine!

Not all spam is bad. (-1, Offtopic)

Douglas Simmons (628988) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666890)

Go to the site in my .sig and you'll see that this spam post is the best thing that's happened to you all day. NSFW.

Porn a distant second in my inbox (1)

russotto (537200) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666893)

Apparently the spammers figure I'm blind or something (maybe from all the porn they think they sold me in the past?), because I'm getting more ringtone spam than anything else lately.

I just want to know... (2, Funny)

g0hare (565322) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666901)

Who told them I can't get it up and I'm underendowed?

Re:I just want to know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666944)

Who told them I can't get it up and I'm underendowed?

One day in the future a prospective employer will be doing checks on your resume and find this post, and fail to understand the context in which is was posted. Feeling sorry for you, or not wanting men with vast lengths around them, they will hire you.

#2 - The Penis Patch (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15666915)

AOL's most recent twelve-month Top10 list:

1) Donald Trump Wants You - Please Respond (popular recognition)
2) Double Standards New Product - Penis Patch (sexually oriented spam)
3) Body Wrap: Lose 6-20 inches in one hour (body improvement products)
4) Get an Apple iPod Nano, PS3 or Xbox 360 for Free (technology offers)
5) It's Lisa, I must have sent you to the wrong site ("personalized" correspondence)
6) Breaking Stock News** Small Cap Issue Poised to Triple (stock scams)
7) Thank you for your business. Shipment notification [77FD87] (bogus transactional spam)
8) [IMPORTANT] Your Mortgage Application is Ready (mortgage-related scams)
9) Thank you: Your $199 Rolex Special Included (high-end "deals")
10) Online Prescriptions Made Easy (pharmaceutical)

--
Donald Trump wants you to use the Penis Patch, and
lose 6 inches in one hour (check your Rolex) using
your PS3 while you fill out a mortgage application
as your latest stock purchase triples its value...

Online drugs = huge risk (2, Insightful)

andrewman327 (635952) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666932)

There is a gigantic risk when ordering pharmaceuticals over the Internet without the aid of doctors of pharmacists. You could easily end up with a pill that does nothing whatsoever or worse. Expired or fake drugs could cause serious injury or death. There is not that risk with online pr0n. People screw up their computers badly on some of these websites with spyware, but they generally live to tell about it unless the wife walks in.


Disclosure: I am currently employed by a pharmaceutical company, but my low opinion of buying drugs through spam pre-dates my employment.

Porn Dominates the Spam Battlefield (0, Offtopic)

Kid Zero (4866) | more than 8 years ago | (#15666938)

Dominates? *snicker*

Best Title in awhile, guys. :D

Re:Porn Dominates the Spam Battlefield (1)

Provocateur (133110) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667145)

If this is war...

Where do I suit up? With an appropriate codpiece, of course.

What About Children Who Get Spammed With This? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15667018)

What about children who get porn spam?

I think the spammers should be held accountable for that.

How do they know they're not spamming children with advanced sex education?

This spam is a modernist literature masterpiece. (2, Funny)

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Volume (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667080)

As far as volume, my yahoo account got on someone's list and I get 3 or 4 e-mails a day for various "Vouchers" (This WAS a low-spam account, until I joined a few linux mailing groups). If half the vouchers were real I'd have so much free crap I wouldn't know what to do with it. Coach handbags, United airlines tickets, Pizza-hut, and about a dozen or so other brands. No porn though that I've noticed.

My hotmail account on which the spam filter used to work really nicely and send everything to junk, has recently stopped. Not a single e-mail is being caught by the spam filter and is showing up right in my inbox. Its mostly porn, I'd say 90%, or v1aaagrrrra (sic).

Strange balance (3, Funny)

theonetruekeebler (60888) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667108)

I'm trying to figure out the balance here: All spammers ever offer me is porn and penis enlargement pills. What I want to know is, if all I'm doing is jacking off to porn, why the hell does it matter how big it is?

Re:Strange balance (1)

rehtonAesoohC (954490) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667248)

The spammer's point of view is that if the one eyed snake is big enough, you shouldn't have to charm it yourself.

Begging the Obvious Question (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 8 years ago | (#15667201)

porn spam is 280 times more effective than spam advertising pharmacy drugs...If you look at some of the oldest and most successful forms of business on earth, they revolve around sex.'"

But doesn't Viagra also revolve around sex?

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