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MySpace #1 US Destination Last Week

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the looking-for-a-stage-2-burn dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Hitwise is reporting that MySpace has reached the top, surpassing Yahoo! Mail as the most visited site on the internet for US users. Seeing a 4300% increase in visits in just two short years, this internet sensation has come quite a long ways. From the article: 'To put MySpace's growth in perspective, if we look back to July 2004 myspace.com represented only .1% of all Internet visits. This time last year myspace.com represented 1.9% of all Internet visits. With the week ending July 8, 2006 market share figure of 4.5% of all the US Internet visits.'"

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teh (fat) US-ians (-1, Troll)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703395)

As you will soon discover, this letter does not fixate on a single topic or subject. To be perfectly frank and honest, it started out rather focused but I soon found, as I worked on my primary hypothesis and sought corroboration from other sources, that I have quite a number of different things to say about teh US-ians. With this letter, I hope to make technical preparations for the achievement of freedom and human independence. But first, I would like to make the following introductory remark: Teh US-ians never stops boasting about its generous contributions to charitable causes. As far as I can tell, however, its claimed magnanimousness is utterly chimerical and, furthermore, if teh US-ians bites me, I will bite back. I'm not very conversant with teh US-ians's background. To be quite frank, I don't care to be. I already know enough to state with confidence that the unalterable law of biology has a corollary that is generally overlooked. Specifically, teh US-ians keeps telling us that everyone with a different set of beliefs from its is going to get a one-way ticket to Hell. Are we also supposed to believe that it commands an army of robots that live in the hollow center of the earth and produce earthquakes whenever they feel like shaking things up a bit on the surface? I didn't think so.

Teh US-ians complains a lot. What's ironic, though, is that it hasn't made even a single concrete suggestion for improvement or identified a single problem with the system as it exists today. Without a doubt, however, what I have been writing up to this point is not what I initially intended to write in this letter. Instead, I decided it would be far more productive to tell you that teh US-ians sees itself as a postmodern equivalent of Marx's proletariat, revolutionizing the world by wresting it from its oppressors (viz., those who develop an alternative community, a cohesive and comprehensive underground with a charter to stop its encroachments on our heritage). What do you think of this: Crazy ideologues must be treated with political justice, not with civil justice, as they are undeniably not real citizens? All in all, if we contradict teh US-ians, we are labelled benighted slumlords. If we capitulate, however, we forfeit our freedoms. Teh US-ians wants to toss quaint concepts like decency, fairness, and rational debate out the window. It gets better: It believes that all minorities are poor, stupid ghetto trash. I guess no one's ever told it that I deeply believe that it's within our grasp to develop a rational-empirical base for dialogue about its analects. Be grateful for this first and last tidbit of comforting news. The rest of this letter will center around the way that I am not up on the latest gossip. Still, I have heard people say that teh US-ians is doing more harm than good to its cause. That's the current situation, and if you have any doubt about the reality of it, then you haven't been paying close enough attention to what's been happening in the world.

Teh US-ians's shallow dream is starting to come true. Liberties are being killed by attrition. Fogyism is being installed by accretion. The only way that we can reverse these savage trends is to follow through on the critical work that has already begun. To be precise, it is always prating about how priggism is the only alternative to plagiarism. (It used to say that it has been robbed of all it does not possess, but the evidence is too contrary, so it's given up on that score.) There is one crucial fact that we must not overlook if we are to perceive our current situation as it is, rather than in the anamorphosis of some "ideology" such as vandalism or pessimism. Specifically, if I have a bias, it is only against slimy, reprehensible numskulls who separate people from their roots and cut their bonds to their natural communities. That's it for this letter. I hope that typing it was not a complete waste of energy. Unfortunately, I do realize that my words will probably trigger no useful response in the flabby synapses of teh US-ians's brain. I just felt obligated to go through the motions because teh US-ians should get with the program.

Perhaps you should see a doctor. (1, Offtopic)

Majik Sheff (930627) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703460)

You seem to be producing what is known as Word Salad [wikipedia.org] . This is possible symptom of schizophrenia.

I wish you well friend.

Re:Perhaps you should see a doctor. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703547)

It's just the complaint generator run for "teh US-ians."

Re:Perhaps you should see a doctor. (1)

Majik Sheff (930627) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703581)

Ah, that would explain it. That's one I hadn't encountered yet.

blwh (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703399)

And boy is that depressing

Re:blwh (-1, Offtopic)

bigman2003 (671309) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703479)

It might be depressing- and MySpace sites my look like crap.

But the part that makes me happy is that MySpace runs on ColdFusion.

It's impossible to say anything positive about ColdFusion here on Slashdot without being torn apart...and one of the reasons people complain about it is that some people don't think it's enterprise capable.

Well, the biggest site on the net runs ColdFusion, that sounds pretty damn good to me. No matter how the pages look, that doesn't matter. The important thing is that they load.

So now I can say it- I still run ColdFusion, and I still like it. I've been told that ColdFusion is dead. ASP is the only way to go. PHP is the only way to go, JSP is the only way to go, .Net is the only way to go, Python is the only way to go.

Now is the time for me to say: "Can't we all just get along?"

Re:blwh (3, Informative)

bigman2003 (671309) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703507)

Nobody has replied yet...but I deserve to get flamed.

After some research, I found that they are running a huge mish-mash of different languages and middleware. Calling it ColdFusion at this point is pretty much incorrect.

So, I was wrong.

Re:blwh (5, Funny)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703517)

So, I was wrong.

      You must be new here. ;)

Re:blwh (2, Funny)

uncle_riley (655260) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703592)

To be fair, he only checked his facts after he had already posted

Re:blwh (-1, Offtopic)

rjstanford (69735) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703559)

Wow. Way to get double-mod points. Not that I believe you were going for them, but still...

Re:blwh (2, Interesting)

Joe U (443617) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703584)

Sorry, I'm going to have to flame you.

I program in CF, sometimes it just drives me NUTS! Its the tons of little problems that Adobe/Macromedia/Allaire won't fix.

Honestly, CF is on a slow decline. It had potential, but they were more interested in making a quick buck. (No service packs for CF5 is criminal)

And NewAtlanta is not much better. Could have come out with a $300 CF server, flooded the market and charged extra for support. But no, instead you get a free license that basically says you can't run hello world without asking permission and commercial one is $900. Why would I spend $900 for a CF clone? The original doesn't cost much more.

Re:blwh (4, Funny)

balloonhead (589759) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703596)

Not really - these aren't real people causing hits.

You'll notice the timing of the traffic surge with recent terrorist event and subsequent legislation.

It's mostly just PATRIOT act research by the gummint to check out prospective employees.

Not again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703405)

Good Lord, another myspace mashup ;)

Re:Not again (4, Funny)

tonsofpcs (687961) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703560)

All it means is they got slashdotted in the past week....

In Unrelated News... (5, Funny)

cyranoVR (518628) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703406)

In completely unrelated news, Yahoo! has announced that starting next month users of their free Yahoo! Mail service will have a new feature: pictures of scantly-clad 16 year-olds on their mail home page.

Re:In Unrelated News... (0, Troll)

Tsiangkun (746511) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703483)

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Re:In Unrelated News... (1)

andrewman327 (635952) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703513)

Where's the "+1 obscure allusion to recent /. story"?


In all seriousness, I wonder how much of that Myspace traffic is just from the spam bots that are responsible for so much of what is on that site.

Worthless. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703408)

Myspace is the most pointless, horribly designed site on the internet.

Re:Worthless. (5, Insightful)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703523)

Myspace is the most pointless, horribly designed site on the internet.

In other news, MySpace was designed.

Clue to all geeks everywhere:

Nobody cares that MySpace runs on code that is inelegant, nor that it results in sloppy-looking personal pages

It's a big ol' mess, but it's a big ol' mess that a lot of young folks find useful. End of story.

Re:Worthless. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703527)

Just to give you some perspective;
http://www.interacs.com/canyonrick/ [interacs.com]

Re:Worthless. (1)

8ball629 (963244) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703551)

Pointless? No. Horribly designed? In a programmer's point of view.

If you read the stats again you'd realize that it isn't pointless to many people because its ranked #1 in the US and apparently all of the features that have been "designed" into the website draw a lot of attention. Good AND bad attention, but attention is attention and attention is $$$.

As much as I despise the website with its all around immaturity and sloppiness, I wish I was a part of it because I could use some money right about now.

What does this say?? (-1, Troll)

abscissa (136568) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703409)

What does this say about Americans?? As if we didn't already know, they voted for G.W. Bush and now they want to log on to myspace to add his daughters to their friends list so they have some connections when they're out of coke. Must be nice to be born with a silver spoon in your nose.

NOTE TO REST OF WORLD: (1)

CmdrTaco (troll) (578383) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703586)

You still suck balls compared to the US.

News? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703412)

No, this is not news. Not for geeks or anyone else.

4300% (1)

The Hobo (783784) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703416)

Why didn't they take the epoch when the site started, so they'd go up by +inf%?

Re:4300% (1)

eklitzke (873155) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703514)

Because division by zero is undefined, not infinite.

Re:4300% (1)

The Hobo (783784) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703524)

I was referring to computer division by 0 [wikipedia.org] , which gives us the +inf by IEEE standards

What can we learn from this? (5, Interesting)

ThePineTree.net (984445) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703417)

How can we learn from this to make our sites better. Can we translate this type of activity to the 30+ crowd instead of just the teens?

Re:What can we learn from this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703458)

don't count on it in this youth-centric culture. just be glad you're male instead of female where you're an old hag by 30.

Piece of cake. (3, Informative)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703484)

Can we translate this type of activity to the 30+ crowd instead of just the teens?

At the rate that teens and 20-somethings are being dumbed down by visiting MySpace pages, the 30+ crowd that they will become will have lost any ability to grow out of using it.

1) Get a 16-year-old using MySpace
2) Wait 14 years - thus, 30-year-old still using MySpace
3) Profit!

Re:Piece of cake. (1)

andrewman327 (635952) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703536)

I think it was on /. recently that adults are growing less mature. Now we know the cause!

Re:What can we learn from this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703498)

Fads happen?

Re:What can we learn from this? (4, Interesting)

cgenman (325138) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703577)

I wanted to write a humorous response, but the answer is simply: yes.

Basically, My Space does all of those sappy things that the internet was supposed to do years ago. The content is all by users. It's all about helping people network with eachother. It appeals to people's vanity as well as their curiosity. It happens to have a great underserved niche (indie bands) that tent pegs it even if they aren't the primary users. It's naughty. It's viral.

Basically, put control in the hands of your users, and let them work for the communal site. Find some underserved niche and add features to support their usage habits. Make sure everyone joins. Don't censor interesting stuff. Be a community builder rather than a content provider.

Let them build it, and they will come.

So this means... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703418)

that myspace.com is now offically the new sewer of the internet?

the downhill trend of quality of life continues

Re:So this means... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703606)

Don't worry, AOL is re-focusing.

Re:So this means... (1)

denttford (579202) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703614)

You know, this bit of news doesn't seem so bad - or at least unexpected - after I came across this [amazon.com] today. The review is priceless.
Priceless like plastic pink flamingos.

noooooooo!! (0, Offtopic)

nagashi (684628) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703419)

Al Gore would be turning in his grave if he wasn't a robotic zombie incapable of death, charged to guard the internet for all time.

Re:noooooooo!! (1)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703477)

Al Gore would be turning in his grave if he wasn't a robotic zombie incapable of death, charged to guard the internet for all time.

I knew it! Al Gore is the Ghost in the Machine!

Worrisome, but not unexpected (5, Insightful)

eplossl (242870) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703424)

Consider...

Today, we have online dating, message boards for everything, and web based chat everywhere. If a site isn't dynamic, it's quickly dropped by the online populace. The fact is, this is not unexpected. Myspace.com spent some time developing a site where people could blog and network. It worked for them.

The worrisome part of this is that people don't seem to understand how potentially dangerous this is. Consider the sheer volume of details some people (read: children) put on their myspace accounts. Parents SHOULD police this, but, all too often, they don't. The fact is that this service presents all too much possibility for children to get hurt. Consider also the single women all over who post their info online. Some of them realize that they shouldn't post that they live alone in an apartment in south-central LA, but others would very quickly post this sort of thing. Unfortunately, this again puts people at risk.

I don't think that the site should be stopped from operating, as I tend to be somewhat of the opinion that if you put your details out there for the world to see, it's your fault if something bad happens. OTOH, people need to think a bit more.

not a problem (5, Funny)

r00t (33219) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703554)

The "single women all over who post their info online" are 45-year-old fat males.

The "children" are FBI agents.

Having a unique name really sucks (5, Insightful)

foreverdisillusioned (763799) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703605)

When I first started messing around on the internet 10+ years ago, I used my first name for a couple things. Very quickly I caught on that this wasn't such a great idea, but what I didn't count on is lifelong archival and the rising power of search engines. You see, my first name and last name are rare to the point that I highly doubt anyone else in America has them both. Not completely weird or a made up word, it's just rather uncommon to encounter either one individually, and that makes the combination unique.

So anyway, you need only type my name into Google and have a complete record of every inane thing I ever said back when I was 15 years old. If there is anyone else in the world with the same name, they haven't ever used it on the net. Ok, so it's not particularly damaging information, but it does allow ANYONE to find out that I like Nirvana and Douglas Adams and RPGs and arguing with people. It's rather embarassing, really, to have your semi-profound adolescent musings completely exposed, availible for anyone to read at any time so long as they know your first and last name, but there's really nothing I can do about it. The original archives have been cached by Google and archive.org. Like it or not, I'm immortalized, and I really pity the fools on Myspace who have unique names, or even the ones with common names but specific addresses (or other identifying personal info) posted. In all liklihood every single trivial fact, every single inane/insane rant has been archived *somewhere* and it'll eventually turn up in a Google search. It's irreversable--it's a gigantic bell that simply can't be un-rung.

I shudder to think what would've happened if I made a truly questionable post under my real name. If some teen posts a rant on Myspace that could be construed as racist or radically anarchist or in any other way offensive or unpopular, that rant will be there perhaps for the rest of his life. It will be there every time he goes to apply for a job, and if he was foolish enough to provide such information as a home address he won't be able to claim it's not him. I don't know what there's any real solution for this except education. A lot of people out there don't see the point in anonymity, or even worse they view it as a weakness, a sign of guilt or triviality. Unfortunately, likely they won't start paying attention until criminals and potential employers/friends/lovers alike start turning to Google every time they get curious about their mark/employee/friend/etc.

Re:Worrisome, but not unexpected (1)

superchi (751308) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703609)

Don't worry. We just need a few more reports in the media of people losing their jobs and getting physically assaulted and maybe one or two really gruesome cases of cannabalism.

Once there was a time when it was fairly acceptable to hitchhike, but it only took a few horror stories (urban legends?) and now there are very few hitchhikers or people willing to pick up hitchhikers.

We just need a "MySpace Killer" and then we'll find some equilibrium in this phenomenon.

It just goes to show.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703425)

That emo kids are rapidly taking over the country!

counting hits? (5, Interesting)

NynexNinja (379583) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703429)

How do you obtain their numbers? Are they using DNS? Are they putting sniffers on all the core routers? Is this even possible to any degree of accuracy? It seems this junk science is probably about as reliable as Neilsen ratings...

Re:counting hits? (3, Funny)

d34thm0nk3y (653414) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703462)

How do you obtain their numbers? Are they using DNS? Are they putting sniffers on all the core routers? Is this even possible to any degree of accuracy? It seems this junk science is probably about as reliable as Neilsen ratings...

And more importantly, does Netcraft confirm it?

Re:counting hits? (1)

tangledweb (134818) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703509)

What possible Netcraft data could you compare it to?

Hitwise is talking about user visits. Netcraft don't attempt to track user visits and never have.

that can be interpreted differently... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703430)

it's impressive that's it's now number one
but it also shows how vain and petty america is

Obvious! (4, Insightful)

PWNT (985141) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703434)

They picked the easiest market to sway, young adults. In addtion, lots of disposable income(advertisement goldmine!). Not withstanding its use (the website) as a hook-up for hookups.

Combining lots of barely post pubescent teens with raging hormones and disposable income contributes to this large growth. The website scaled and spread by word of mouth. This site is the best representation of a "free internet" as far as I can tell. Everyone who wants to be on it, can be on it. This includes the spectrum of bands looking for fans with a pro website, to teens looking for a connection, including the text choice of size 55 pink wingdings on a blinking blue background or whatever.

The site has support from everyone, the users, the advertisers, the creators, the owners. Everyone is getting something they want from it. This is how a business grows so rapidly.

To quote(paraphrase) someone, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..."

YESSZZ OMG OMG this is the rockz0rx (5, Funny)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703444)

We hit NO. 1 peeps, this EEE the SHEET Yo, just ballin'

THES IS out the ass omg OMG I am speechless

LOng live EMO! peace and love to all. and BOOBIES!

:kisses:

yours,
xxxzzzMYsPACErUlEsmEyyyyzzzxxx

Re:YESSZZ OMG OMG this is the rockz0rx (1)

aeinome (672135) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703463)

Throw in the newest pop band, pink on red text, and the <blink> tag and you're golden.

Re:YESSZZ OMG OMG this is the rockz0rx (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703464)

You forgot:

jus seein how you doin sexy

ok gorjus you butiful

It's like every 17 year old dipshit thinks he's fucking Don Juan when he uses the words "sexy", "gorjus", and "butiful" [sic].

Narcissism (5, Insightful)

caitsith01 (606117) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703449)

I may be alone in this, but I find MySpace for the most part intensely narcissistic and inane.

People are presented with a tool for publishing absolutely anything, about any topic they choose. Instead of presenting thoughtful, creative or otherwise valuable content, the vast majority elect to pointlessly ramble about themselves in minute detail or engage in endless back and forth with other users about nothing in particular. Which is fine, but it shouldn't have the legitimacy of other web content.

In many ways, the whole blog concept has perhaps lowered the barrier to entry for on-line publishing a little *too* far. When anyone can publish anything you want with virtually no effort, then it no longer requires that you be inspired or motivated before your inane ramblings are out there in cyberspace. The media has adopted the trend too, with 'blog' in the context of a news site all too often meaning 'poorly researched and largely content-free "reporting" on sensationalist subject matter.'

Perhaps it's time to move past the blog hype and to consider some method for differentiating personal diaries (i.e., what used to be a personal homepage), social chit chat (i.e., what used to be a bulletin board, IRC, or IM activity), and publications with actual content. Right now the net is awash with an ever-expanding tide of rubbish and there is very little to assist in finding the few really interesting and high quality publications amongst the garbage.

Ultimately it's depressing that, given the ability to communicate our ideas to anyone on earth, most of us can't come up with anything better than pictures of ourselves drinking too much and mass-produced but ineffectual rebelliousness.

Re:Narcissism (1)

wordsofwisedumb (957054) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703472)

That was extremely well worded and well thought out and deserves to be modded up.

Re:Narcissism (1)

Ian Peon (232360) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703503)

The vast majority elect to ... engage in endless back and forth with other users about nothing in particular.


You must be new here.

Oh wait, were you talking about Myspace...? Sorry.

Re:Narcissism (1)

2ms (232331) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703510)

dude it's not that bad. You make is sound like there being anything other than what you call "high quality publications" online is dreadful affliction, devastation, pestilence. Open mind a little no harm in people finding value in internet socially or any of million other ways people enjoy using it. Just b/c it not what you into doesnt mean it's garbage

What makes you think it's so hard to tell the difference between blogs, "social chit chat", and "publications with actual content" as you call, anyway?

Re:Narcissism (1)

kubrick (27291) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703511)

Instead of presenting thoughtful, creative or otherwise valuable content, the vast majority elect to pointlessly ramble about themselves in minute detail or engage in endless back and forth with other users about nothing in particular.

Sturgeon was an optimist.

Re:Narcissism (1)

schnikies79 (788746) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703520)

You're far from alone. I've had the same feeling ever since blog became a buzzword.

I basically ignore most of what would be considered a blog or newsboard anymore. They are awash with the ramblings of 17 year old conspiratists that believe they have a better understanding of things than someone with a degree in the subject.

It's just depressing that you have to waste large amounts of time crawling through nothing to find something of value.

I signed up for a myspace acct (1)

aztektum (170569) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703537)

purely out of curiosity a year and change ago. since it started booming i use it to post garbage on myspace sites for random ppl who make me their friend. i do it when i am bored with reading online or doing anything productive. it's kinda cathartic.

Re:Narcissism (1)

idonthack (883680) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703539)

...the vast majority elect to pointlessly ramble about themselves in minute detail or engage in endless back and forth with other users about nothing in particular.
What did you expect them to do?

Re:Narcissism (1)

bryan_is_a_kfo (976654) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703571)

brings up the point that the vast majority of exhibitionists are not out there flaunting their intellectual side come friday night.

I might even say the vast majority of conversation is meaningless banter, and myspace (or livejournal, or wherever...) is just the online incarnation of that.

Re:Narcissism (1)

apflwr3 (974301) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703540)

I find MySpace for the most part intensely narcissistic and inane.

No shit. That's why it's so popular with 13-21 year olds, who for the most part are also intensely narcissistic and inane.

s/Narcissism/sex (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703550)

Most people think MySpace is pretty stupid and a waste of time yet they still have a myspace page. Why? Because it's a place to "hook up". In the end MySpace is just another avenue for sex. And that's why it's number one.

Re:Narcissism (5, Insightful)

aussersterne (212916) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703555)

While I agree that MySpace is inane, it's also unrealistic to expect that if you give millions of people a platform, they'll come up with anything inspirational, informative, or meaningful.

The vast majority of people are merely average Joes. Everyone cannot be Einstein, nor can everyone be Crichton. That's just the way it is and the way it always will be. Most people don't post anything deeper because most people simply aren't deeper, and it's unlikely that they ever will be, in particular when they're born, raised, and socialized in a consumer orgy of a society that is itself incredibly inane.

Not only have most people in our culture never had a deep thought, but most of them have never even been exposed to a deep thought. Deep thoughts aren't good for markets, they tend to reduce superficiality and overconsumption, which are the two things the growth and maintenance of our society most depends on.

Re:Narcissism (1)

Joe U (443617) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703590)

it's also unrealistic to expect that if you give millions of people a platform, they'll come up with anything inspirational, informative, or meaningful.

And you say this on Slashdot of all places.

How is this different from /. then? (1)

illuminaut (399) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703608)

Most of what you said applies to the comments on this site. Different target audience, same inane narcissism.

Find this hard to believe. (4, Interesting)

extra the woos (601736) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703450)

I find this difficult to believe. I would think that google would have more visits than myspace, for sure.

Re:Find this hard to believe. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703491)

Google (search) points you to non-google sites, whereas myspace just leads to more and more myspace.

Re:Find this hard to believe. (2, Informative)

DigitAl56K (805623) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703541)

The Google search engine is not a 'destination'.

Re:Find this hard to believe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703603)

My homepage is Google.com

MySpace replacement (4, Funny)

Ruins (981807) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703453)

Project Name: "A Life"
Project Goal: Obtain "A Life" and do something with it once obtained.
Probability of success:
(World Population - Number of people on MySpace) / World Population

Re:MySpace replacement (1)

walnutmon (988223) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703488)

Instead of blogging on myspace, I will use this project, to blog about myspace... on slashdot...

Re:MySpace replacement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703490)

Artificial Life, you mean?

I think we're at the point where it might make sense to create something sentient and intelligent, since we're clearly not cutting it. Myspace proves this.

Re:MySpace replacement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703518)

Already done in NiGHTS [wikipedia.org] . Oh those crazy little creatures messing with the music.

In a recent study (1)

whogben (919335) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703455)

researchers determined that at least 4.5% of all US Internet visits are extraneous, and terminated them in order to conserve energy.

Really? (4, Funny)

Comatose51 (687974) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703457)

I didn't realized that pedophiles and their victims make up such a significant portion of the Internet population. I kid, I kid.

Re:Really? (1)

rjstanford (69735) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703556)

I didn't realized that pedophiles and their victims make up such a significant portion of the Internet population. I kid, I kid.

Well, at least you're not a victim... (emphasis added for those who wouldn't otherwise get the joke)

understanding myspace (4, Interesting)

argoff (142580) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703466)

Myspace is driven and pushed by "old media", not "new media". It is old media's way of saying, well if people must bypass our traditional control over information and content for the internet - let's try to make it our internet and not someone elses. For example, their obsession with "child predators" as of late probably has little to do with protecting children and everything to do with making sure that their system is fenced off from "that big nasty mean world out there". No, not the nasty world of child abusers, but the nasty world that breaks their distribution monopoly on information, news, and content.

They are the "bread and circuses" of the information age. Feed em crap, keep em happy, and most of all keep their eyes and ears distracted from political and financial issues of the real world. Like them or hate them, you gotta admit theyre doing a hell of a job at pushing the hype. IMHO, it is truely amazing.

Myspc Sux! LOL! (3, Insightful)

walnutmon (988223) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703474)

It seems to me that myspace is wildly popular, and that it is also the target of a whole lot of criticism from people who actually know how to use the internet.

The general anti myspace rhetoric is usually, "we can already have our own web pages", which labels myspace as a somewhat redundant service with advertisements.

What I rarely see about myspace, is what a brilliant idea it is. Not everyone knows how to create a website, but most people have the capacity, and interest to learn how to use myspace. Instead of looking down on myspacers perhaps those of us who know how to use the internet should learn how to cater to those who are not technically savvy. Isn't that the idea of selling technology? Making things that normally wouldn't be accessible to everyone accessible?

Of course, whenever one of my friends asks me if I have created a myspace page yet, I always reply by calling them a worthless tool. Weird eh?

Re:Myspc Sux! LOL! (1)

ashman512 (987591) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703598)

I agree with you that Myspace can be used as a tool for those without the knowledge to create their own web pages, but part of the problem is that the majority of the people who use Myspace don't even know how to design their Myspace homepages in an appealing manner. I don't know how many countless times I've looked at people's Myspaces, only to be met with horrible font and color schemes, and a large amount of pictures, movies, and music that takes forever to load up. This is also added to the fact that many people fill the page with random junk, such as various quizzes and other random things that they've gotten off of other websites, and that the comments that people have are normally incredibly repetitive and inane. There are some Myspace pages that actually do look good, and have actual content to them. However, most of these are either made by people who already have webpage designing experience, or bands who have someone design there page for them.

The triumph of "old media" (3, Insightful)

Animats (122034) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703476)

Alexa says that the top five sites today are, in order, Yahoo, MSN, Google, Myspace, and eBay. Of those, only Myspace is owned by an "old media" company, and only Myspace is growing significantly. This may be the first time that a top Internet site was owned by an "old media" company. (Myspace is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation [www.newscorp] ). It makes sense; Myspace is to the Internet as tabloid journalism is to the newspaper industry. News Corp now has a leading position in both.

Orkut (1)

Jacek Poplawski (223457) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703480)

...and Orkut is still nr 1 in Brasil, is there any alternative website that you can recommend?

Hmmm could /. have antyhing to do with it? (1)

FragHARD (640825) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703487)

Just makes me wonder if slashdot is somehow responsible for a slight jump... after all they did just run a story about opendns and how it makes myspace faster. Myself like many others I am sure wanted to see if this was true, so I tried it out...didn't seem any quicker I also tried it out through several other dns servers, They all faired on average about the same depending on the time of day. Just in my testing I probably generated 75-100 hits... gotta be thorough. Disclaimer: I have never visited the myspace site before this.. and probably never will again. Well unless slashdot runs another article mentioning it...

Ahhhh, Now I see! (1)

Kumochisonan (704897) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703495)

That's why my series of tubes are blocked, and it takes up to four days to get my internets down onto my windows!

I sure hope that my truck full of internets arrives soon...

There is a lesson to be learned here, my friends.. (1)

AWhiteFlame (928642) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703497)

See telcos? If you really want to make money, just support and lobby for a complete net neutrality bill which has a clause excluding Myspace.com from neutrality! Then you'll be rich, and we'll have net neutrality(ish)!

Observation on Microsoft re: MySpace (4, Interesting)

afabbro (33948) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703506)

I find this interesting in a Microsoft context. Microsoft has consistently tried to gather a bigger share of the Internet pie and consistently failed. First, MSN never got near AOL back in the walled garden days. Then MSN never got near Yahoo in the directory wars. Or near any of the major search engines, much less Google. MSN Home or Communities or whatever never got any kind of traction when blogging sprung to life.

And now, a startup is the #1 site (or even if you question the numbers, pretty obviously in the top five) and there is nothing Microsoft has to show.

Sure, you can say Microsoft makes its money in other places, they're an OS/app company, etc. but they sure spend a lot of money on MSN, trying to get more Internet eyeballs. To me, an outside observer, it just seems that they are eternally reactionary and a couple years behind, despite having practically unlimited resources. What an indictment.

Prediction: (5, Funny)

John Garvin (229844) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703519)

90% of the replies to this story will amount to "I believe I'm too cool for MySpace."

Re:Prediction: (1)

Goobergunch (876745) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703568)

I believe I'm too cool for MySpace.

Re:Prediction: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703600)

make that 99%.....I don't think anyone here is smart enough to realize that they're just not the target audience....if it was as bad as you would all like to pretend, there wouldn't be 92+ million users; period. (Even if half of them ARE bots/scams/etc.)

Bottom line, there aren't very many 17 year old girls on slashdot, and there aren't a lot of aesthetically challenged 40 year old 'nix gurus on myspace. Be happy for that.

The NEW Internet (2, Insightful)

LittleBigScript (618162) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703530)

I think you all aren't going to like this, but Myspace is beginning to become what people (under 30) mean when people ask if you are "on the internet?" This is similar to when people ask if you have a phone, they mean a cell phone.

I saw a movie preview yesterday on tv where it didn't list a website, but a myspace address. It may be a good thing that your content provider will become a social networking site, so you could look at your content in virtually the same way on every computer which is connected.

But doing the same thing the same way as everyone else isn't what being a nerd is all about, right?

Re:The NEW Internet (1)

tpemble (941481) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703597)

It will be replaced. Don't you remember when every website address was accompanied with the "AOL Keyword"?

Car Crash (1)

SirSlud (67381) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703538)

Of couse, because its massively popular, and its also the worlds most gruesome 24/7 car crash. A substantial portion of that traffic has to be from the 'how bad can it get' voyeristic traffic.

That said, there are a number of top folks in lots of musical/artistic/etc displinines who realize that its a decent way to provide a forum for their fans. (For me, its the number of top flight DMC DJs and Ninja Tunes artists who offer free videos and music across the site.) I wonder if that will stop if it becomes too popular and too noise-to-signal.

I am sick and tired of these covert ads for Myspac (0, Offtopic)

gd23ka (324741) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703542)

Personally I am sick of Slashdot using every pretense just to put the word Myspace on the main page.
Myspace and security violations, Myspace and college kids denied internships, Myspace and whatever.

Slashdot, get yourself advertising clients that are more in tune with your readership because you're
alienating it bigtime. Most of us are no longer in college and don't put up nude pictures of ourselves
captioned 'Man that pot was awesome but I was too stoned to wank myself'.

So let's see, how's this for an ad? If you want to network with people to do business with then I suggest
you go to http://www.openbc.com/ [openbc.com] (open business contacts). It's some of what Myspace may be contemplating of
becoming for the 30+ crowd but fuck them. They're too late in the game for that.

Oh and here is a listing of Myspace dross since last May: (there's more but let's leave it at that)

MySpace #1 US Destination Last Week
On July 12th, 2006 with 39 comments
An anonymous reader writes "Hitwise is reporting that MySpace has reached the top, surpassing Yahoo! Mail as the most visited site on the internet for US...
Main The Internet, News
Score: 8.3
Adware Spreads Through Myspace
On July 10th, 2006 with 201 comments
Sandbagger writes "Here's an interesting problem for MySpace -- groups of websites that entice MySpace users into placing videos onto their profile pages...
IT Spam, Security, The Internet, IT
Score: 7.4
New(?) Anti-Fraud DNS service
On July 10th, 2006 with 184 comments
knownsense writes "A new DNS system to foil spammers, abusers, and other ills of the Internet is around the corner, reports Wired. It claims to be more...
IT Networking, The Internet, IT
Score: 2.2
The Man Behind MySpace
On July 4th, 2006 with 186 comments
An anonymous reader writes "The Guardian has an article looking at the life of Chris DeWolfe, a co-founder of the popular MySpace community site. The article...
Main The Internet
Score: 6.1
The Information Revolution
On July 3rd, 2006 with 36 comments
Aeonite writes "The Information Revolution subtitled, The Not-For-Dummies Guide to the History, Technology and Use of the World Wide Web, is the second in a...
Book Reviews Book Reviews
Score: 0.6
Congress May Add Record Requirements to MySpace
On June 30th, 2006 with 343 comments
An anonymous reader writes "CNet is reporting that Congress may be working to extend the record retention requirements they're already working on for ISPs to...
Your Rights Online United States, The Internet, Politics, Your Rights Online
Score: 7.0
Summer Camps Join Fray Against MySpace
On June 23rd, 2006 with 251 comments
The New York Times reports that now even summer camps are raising concerns about social networking sites such as MySpace, Friendster, and Facebook. Camps are...
Your Rights Online The Internet, Your Rights Online
Score: 5.9
Teen Sues MySpace Over Sexual Assault
On June 20th, 2006 with 979 comments
kaufmanmoore writes "A 14-year old is suing myspace for $30 million claiming the site failed to protect her from a 19-year old she met through the site. The...
Your Rights Online The Courts, The Internet
Score: 8.0
A New Search for MySpace
On June 16th, 2006 with 146 comments
garzpacho writes "Businessweek is reporting on MySpace's new strategy. They're going to pit the large engines against each other in a bidding war to provide...
Main Businesses, The Internet
Score: 7.0
More Warnings Against Oversharing on MySpace
On June 11th, 2006 with 383 comments
Skapare writes "Your next prospective employer might be watching your MySpace page, according to a story at the New York Times. And if you think Facebook is...
Main Businesses, The Internet
Score: 5.9
Why Web 2.0 Will End Your Privacy
On June 5th, 2006 with 233 comments
An anonymous reader writes "This is a pretty good insight into some of the dangers of social networking and website customisation -- marketing and loss of...
Your Rights Online Privacy, The Internet, Data Storage, The Almighty Buck, Your Rights Online
Score: 2.2
Slashback: ASIMO History, CSIRO WiFi, Net Neutrality
On May 31st, 2006 with 87 comments
Slashback tonight brings some corrections, clarifications, and updates to previous Slashdot stories, including a short history of Honda's ASIMO. Also, Intel...
Your Rights Online Slashback, Software, The Courts, The Internet
Score: 1.5
Teens Arrested in MySpace Extortion Scam
On May 27th, 2006 with 193 comments
An anonymous reader writes "Two New York teens have been arrested after trying to extort $150,000 from the makers of MySpace, the popular online community...
Your Rights Online The Courts, The Internet
Score: 8.0
IL School District to Monitor Student Blogs
On May 25th, 2006 with 438 comments
tinkertim writes "According to a Yahoo article, a school district in Libertyville, IL will be holding students accountable for illegal actions discussed in...
Your Rights Online Privacy, The Internet, Your Rights Online
Score: 2.1
Google: The Missing Manual, Second Edition
On May 17th, 2006 with 155 comments
Graeme Williams writes "In thinking about Google: The Missing Manual, Second Edition it occurred to me that the Google search box is like the Tardis -- there's...
Book Reviews Google, Book Reviews
Score: 0.5
No Space for MySpace?
On May 12th, 2006 with 272 comments
conq writes "BusinessWeek looks at the flaws in the bill proposed by the House of Representatives that would block access to social networks and Internet chat...
Your Rights Online Censorship, The Internet, Politics
Score: 3.9
Politicians Target Social Sites For Restrictions
On May 11th, 2006 with 497 comments
cnet-declan writes "Politicians are looking for reasons to convince citizens to vote in November, and polls say suburban parents are worried about the...
Politics Censorship, The Internet, Politics
Score: 1.7
Kevin Carmony Responds to Criticism
On May 9th, 2006 with 300 comments
sharkscott writes to tell us that LXer's Don Parris took a few minutes to get Kevin Carmony's response to the large amount of criticism he has been taking over...
Linux Editorial, Linux
Score: 2.1
One Second Ads Hoping To Grab Your Eyes
On May 6th, 2006 with 105 comments
otis wildflower writes "C|NET reports that GE will be airing a new advertising campaign called 'One Second Theatre'." From the article: "'GE One Second...
Main Media, Index
Score: 1.7
AOL to Enter the VoIP Ring
On May 5th, 2006 with 93 comments
FiveDollarYoBet writes "Looks like AOL is entering the VOIP racket. The service is free but it's really a Skype clone with a copper local number. They're...
Main America Online, Communications, The Internet
Score: 2.3
MA Attorney General Seeks Myspace Changes
On May 4th, 2006 with 292 comments
kaufmanmoore writes "Massachusetts' Attorney General Tom Reilly is saying that Myspace is not doing enough to protect children from sexual predators and is...
Your Rights Online The Internet, Your Rights Online
Score: 8.1
Analysts Talk Online Gaming Services
On May 3rd, 2006 with 17 comments
Gamasutra goes right to the source, starting with the first column in a new series querying analysts directly about gaming-related issues. Today they've got...
Games Businesses, The Internet, Games
Score: 2.0
A Grand Unified Theory of YouTube and MySpace
On April 28th, 2006 with 166 comments
Ant writes "Paul Boutin's Slate article explains the factors contributing to the success YouTube and MySpace: they are easy to use (usability), and they don't...
Main The Internet, Entertainment
Score: 7.2
Cops Walking the MySpace Beat
On April 16th, 2006 with 278 comments
theodp writes "Meet the point-and-click police. Newsweek reports that a growing number of ordinary officers are working a new beat, turning to MySpace to...
Your Rights Online The Internet, The Courts

Re:I am sick and tired of these covert ads for.... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703575)

Do you really think that myspace has to advertise?

On Slashdot? Or anywhere?

C'mon. Get real. Perhaps /. is running these stories because they're in the news; for better or worse, myspace is part of the internet culture, and this is one place where it can be discussed outside of itself.

And what percentage of the traffic is bots? (3, Interesting)

micheas (231635) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703548)

I received 55 friend requests today none of them from real people. (Well I haven't looked at all of them, but the few I clicked on were from profiles that identified them selves as 18-22 single female, and all had lots of male "friends" they all more or less looked like ads for dating services, promos for bands, etc.)

It is kind of interesting that myspace seems to hold up under all the spam, even though they don't seem to do much about it (or are at least losing the war badly)

Hmm, time to go check out freshmeat for a myspace invite script.

FailzorS.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703549)

you join 7oday! yes, I work for

And the worst part about it... (1)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703557)

none of them friended me! [myspace.com]

I'm totally gonna go emo!

Consent is King (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15703591)

Anything that facilitates consenting individuals getting together is bound to be a success.

quickly QOS limit their line ... (1)

freaker_TuC (7632) | more than 8 years ago | (#15703616)

.. before they take over the Internet.

I guess I hereby welcome our dark web2.0 lords in our vicinity ...
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