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EA Confirms Major Wii Support

Zonk posted about 8 years ago | from the woot-wii-woot dept.

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Electronic Arts has confirmed they are 100% committed to the Nintendo Wii, reports Gamasutra. The largest game publisher in the U.S. has revealed six games currently in production for the console, which is scheduled to launch sometime in the Fall. From the article: "The EA statement on the matter comments: 'Each title will remain true to the hallmarks of its franchise but is being designed to maximize the power of the Wii hardware and take full advantage of the uniqueness and innovation of its one-of-a-kind controller.'"

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150 comments

Did Hell Freeze Over? (3, Funny)

Valthan (977851) | about 8 years ago | (#15713805)

EA innovating and not just re-releasing the same game with the trades made... I jsut got shivers running down my spine...

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (1)

trdrstv (986999) | about 8 years ago | (#15713837)

Any Word on Component Cables? Madden Wii was confirmed to have 16:9 widescreen and 480 progressive scan output.

Note: Yes, the Wii CAN do HD 720p or 1080i if it wants to. It'll be more powerful than the first X-box which can do this as well. Nintendo is just sticking to 480p as THEIR standard like they did with the gamecube (Hell the GameBoy Player supports 480p).

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (1)

CaymanIslandCarpedie (868408) | about 8 years ago | (#15713860)

Nope hells still plenty warm. They are just re-releasing the same games still. Just now you can play Madden 20XX on PS2, XBox, Wii, PS3, XBox 360..... No new games or innovation here, just tossing the same old games on one extra box.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (2, Insightful)

Valthan (977851) | about 8 years ago | (#15713880)

RFTA and tell me that changing the whole mechanics of a game is no innovation. They could have done what they normally do and just re-release it, same controls and all, they don't need to support the motion sensor of the Wiimote, last I checked it still has buttons to play games as well.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15713898)

From the E3 reports, frequently the remote is just used as a fancy controller button. It doesn't necessarily change game mechanics.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (2, Insightful)

CaymanIslandCarpedie (868408) | about 8 years ago | (#15713946)

You realize that to the game it doesn't matter if your twirling an analog stick, mashing a d-pad, or pressing the "Y" button. To the game its just input signals. Choosing to have a player pass the ball in Madden via moving the Wii controller instead of pressing a button is roughly the same amazing inovation on the games part as having the player pass via pulling one of the triggers instead of pussing a button. Nintendo had a lot of work to do getting the controller to work, but for the game developers its just deciding which input signal will trigger which events. About as exciting an innovation as if they changed an event from being triggered via the "Y" button to now use the "X" button.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (4, Insightful)

AuMatar (183847) | about 8 years ago | (#15713993)

From an engine standpoint, yes. From a playing standpoint- no. Pointing and moving the controller are entirely new control techniques for the player, using them as gameplay elements is innovation.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (1)

CaymanIslandCarpedie (868408) | about 8 years ago | (#15714059)

Agreed this may lead to better gameplay. IMO I just don't see what the game will be doing as any type of "innovation" since every game which has ever been updated or ported to any device with a slightly different controller has done the same thing (remap which input signals trigger which events). If we want to use the word "innovation" here, I think we save if for Nintendo for creating the new controller not for EA doing what basically every game before has already done.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (1)

Golias (176380) | about 8 years ago | (#15714114)

Pointing and moving the controller are entirely new control techniques for the player, using them as gameplay elements is innovation.

As opposed to pointing and moving with a thumbstick?

The Wiimote is interesting from an engineering point of view, but from a gaming point of view it's the most over-hyped "innovation" ever.

(Bracing now to get bitch-slapped in equal measure by fanboys and astroturfers.)

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (1)

giorgiofr (887762) | about 8 years ago | (#15714252)

Do not underestimate the power of the Wiimote. Powergloves, P5 gloves and countless (?) others have failed where the Wiimote might succeed. What other input devices do we use while playing a console game, beside the gamepad? Maybe a gun... I can't think of anything else. So this MIGHT be a significant innovation.
Oh and here's a hug - now get ready to be flamed to a crisp :D

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (1)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | about 8 years ago | (#15714461)

What other input devices do we use while playing a console game, beside the gamepad? Maybe a gun... I can't think of anything else.

The past few years have seen a flourishing of alternate input devices for console games: DDR pads, Guitar Hero axes, touch screens (if you consider the DS a proper console), EyeToy cameras...

I think the market has shown that new control paradigms can be market successes if properly supported (and no, Xavix showcasing their silly sports simulators in Guitar Centers instead of electronics stores doesn't qualify). It will be interesting to see how well the Wiimote concept lives up to its potential, and it's certainly too soon to say definitively whether it will succeed or fail.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (3, Interesting)

Jerf (17166) | about 8 years ago | (#15714363)

You realize that to the game it doesn't matter if your twirling an analog stick, mashing a d-pad, or pressing the "Y" button. To the game its just input signals.

Technically true, but who cares?

What we care about is the full system, from the output of the human brain back into the input to the game device. At that level, there can be large differences in button vs. stick vs. something else entirely. Plus, not all signals are created equally; "analog" signals can carry a lot more info than digital button presses.

Now, I don't know what EA's plans are, and I don't know exactly how accurate the Wiimote is. But, if the Wiimote is as accurate with the accelerometers as it should be, and if EA is going all out, they could set it up so that you actually make a throwing motion, with full control over direction and speed as quickly as you can make the motion. This would be a qualitative improvement over any existing control setup, which has no feasible way to extract this much information from the player in any way the player could hope to deliver it. There is going to be no other way to tap into our throwing circuits anywhere near as well, and those are extremely refined by Mother Nature.

To the game, it's just another input. To the human, it's anything but.

This is supposition. I think it's possible that the Wiimote will be able to handle this technically (this is actually just an accelerometer application, exact positioning would be irrelevant, so even if positioning is wonky there's no good reason this won't have a sensing accuracy far in excess of the signals your body can generate), but I would be somewhat surprised if EA implemented this, as it would be a lot harder than button translation. But they are talking the talk, so one can at least hope they are walking the walk.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (1)

Pluvius (734915) | about 8 years ago | (#15714158)

If I were you, I'd wait until I actually got my hands on EA's Wii games before I said that they were changing their mechanics in any fundamental way. Remember, this is EA we're talking about. They innovate, but almost always incrementally.

Rob

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | about 8 years ago | (#15714265)

The hands-on reports from E3 say that the Madden controls are vastly more intuitive on the Wii and apprently they have changed the mechanics beyond just changing the input device.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15713883)

EA CLAIMING to innovate. That's important. They do that all the time.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15713905)

I jsut got shivers running down my spine...

Me too. I am NOT looking forward to "John Madden 2007: Getting the Wii Thang' On"

Each "...true to the hallmarks of its franchise" (1)

nathan s (719490) | about 8 years ago | (#15713991)

It doesn't sound like it. They might tweak the interface for some of their old titles to take advantage of the new controller, but these are apparently going to be franchise games rather than original titles.

Re:Did Hell Freeze Over? (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | about 8 years ago | (#15714046)

Yeah, I think one of the Westwood guys got a really high position or something.

You got piled on, but you're right (2, Interesting)

ianscot (591483) | about 8 years ago | (#15714077)

EA is trying anyway. You're right, they could've just released new rosters and said the old controller was enough. They didn't just phone it in. If they actually get rebounding sorta right-ish in NBALive after so many years of painfully bad results, Heck will at least be a little cooler. Maybe not Hell...

EA was among the earliest 3rd-party developers to show major projects on the Wii, and from the start they were talking about Madden and how the controller would work. It's clear they've spent some thought on what a new controller might mean for their franchises.

And yeah, they are franchise games. Go figger, EA is known for sports titles, and they will continue to make titles for the major US sports (except baseball now) and some for the rest of the world. Yes, I would personally be very interested in a Rugby title similar to their existing games, but apparently that doesn't have enough market behind it.

It's already out there (1)

why-is-it (318134) | about 8 years ago | (#15714350)

I would personally be very interested in a Rugby title similar to their existing games, but apparently that doesn't have enough market behind it.

You mean something like this [easports.com] or this [electronicarts.co.uk] ?

Sports Games (2, Insightful)

TripHammer (668315) | about 8 years ago | (#15713811)

EA's sports titles on the Wii-mote sounds excellent to me. If they implement the analog control well, it might become the preferred platform for sports games. Seeing these titles excel on the Wii should boost Nintendo's street cred.

And the control's the thing (2, Insightful)

Crash Culligan (227354) | about 8 years ago | (#15714052)

EA's sports titles on the Wii-mote sounds excellent to me. If they implement the analog control well, it might become the preferred platform for sports games. Seeing these titles excel on the Wii should boost Nintendo's street cred.

A lot of people are talking about EA "dropping the ball" by just introducing the same old crud on the Wii that they've introduced on every other platform, and that people won't want to buy the same games all over again. They're mostly correct, but they're not taking one thing into account: the wiimote.

Yes, the games are the same old thing they've had on many platforms before, but this would be its first time on the Wii. The control scheme is an important part of the game no matter what platform it's on, and if the control scheme is sufficiently different on the Wii (that is, if they use the fancy new control to its fullest), then people will buy it that all important one more time. And if it does really well, the Wii will become a choice platform for certain types of games over the PS3 and X360.

'Major Wii Support', huh? (5, Funny)

Millennium (2451) | about 8 years ago | (#15713814)

I hereby dub this The Jockstrap Announcement.

Re:'Major Wii Support', huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15713887)

If you can't be a Wii, at least be a Wii supporter.

Re:'Major Wii Support', huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15713943)

Maybe this means EA will start including their own "Hot Coffee" mods...

Re:'Major Wii Support', huh? (1)

Rimbo (139781) | about 8 years ago | (#15714154)

Given the sales figures of EA Sports titles, that's appropriate in more ways than one.

No original IPs (4, Insightful)

scrabbleguy (980944) | about 8 years ago | (#15713815)

It seems FTA that none of the six titles are original though. They are all new versions of old franchises and multiplatform titles (like The Godfather.) It's a little bit disappointing that we're not seeing more original works.

Re:No original IPs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714241)

It's a little bit disappointing that we're not seeing more original works.

Um, we're talking about EA here. They run franchises into the ground and then some.

Yay (-1, Flamebait)

Brothernone (928252) | about 8 years ago | (#15713820)

.... I suppose. If you like the same ol' crapy EA sports titles. I don't know how the Wii controller will make video game sports any cooler. I'd rather just go play sports outside... in the sunlight. (i'm sick, i know.)

Re:Yay (5, Funny)

Total_Wimp (564548) | about 8 years ago | (#15713926)

I don't know how the Wii controller will make video game sports any cooler. I'd rather just go play sports outside... in the sunlight.

Wow! Talk about your inovative controler. More than a two hundred piece skeletal structure and fully thought controlled through a high speed interface with zero lag. Perfect force feadback as well as heat/cold sensations and actual pain when you screw up.

The visual interface features perfect High Dynamic Range (HDR) lighting and infinate polygonal surfaces with fully translucent light scattering substructures.

The environment is not only fully destructable, but fully interactive. Every single object down to individual grains of dirt can be manipulated at will and that awesome controller lets you manipulate it through a 100% 3D range of motion including rotation, push and pull along every axis.

For sports games, why would anyone use anything else?

Oh yeah, you have to F***ing excersize. Screw that, I'm gonna try out that Wii thingy.

TW

Re:Yay (1)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | about 8 years ago | (#15713955)

I wish I could mod you funny because I laughed hard enough for my boss to hear (had he actually been in the adjacent office)

Re:Yay (2, Funny)

Volante3192 (953645) | about 8 years ago | (#15714014)

Yea, but you can't apply feature upgrades or patches easily, the dev tree is closed on release, and besides, it's completely closed source anyway.

Who knows what backdoors and exploits are left in a system like that...

Re:Yay (4, Funny)

wiggles (30088) | about 8 years ago | (#15714060)

But hey, it's the only system in the world where the trojans prevent the viruses.

Re:Yay (1)

Jimmy King (828214) | about 8 years ago | (#15714120)

More than a two hundred piece skeletal structure and fully thought controlled through a high speed interface with zero lag.

It sounds great, but over years of regular use I have found that mine has developed lag and continues to get worse. While it's certainly lasted long enough to not really warrant a complaint, the problem is that there's no way to replace it with a new, non-laggy one, and it's become too much a part of my life to just quit using it.

Re:Yay (1)

snuf23 (182335) | about 8 years ago | (#15714270)

And have you tried to source replacement parts? Even if you can find them they are expensive as hell. Either that or you need to take a trip to Mexico because they don't sell them over the counter in the US!

Re:Yay (2, Informative)

Knuckles (8964) | about 8 years ago | (#15714457)

high speed interface with zero lag

Actually IIRC there is significant lag of ca. 0.3-0.5 secs between input reaching your sensory organs and cerebrum reaction. Your brains just pretends to itself that it has zero lag. Reference IIRC somewhere in here [mit.edu] ,

Re:Yay (1)

bcat24 (914105) | about 8 years ago | (#15713978)

What is this "outside" of which you speak?

Re:Yay (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | about 8 years ago | (#15714183)

".... I suppose. If you like the same ol' crapy EA sports titles. I don't know how the Wii controller will make video game sports any cooler. I'd rather just go play sports outside... in the sunlight. (i'm sick, i know.)"

Ya.. I suppose. I don't know how posting a comment like this on Slashdot would be productive. I'd rather just go paint a picket sign and hover around Gamestop, outside I mean.. in the sunlight. I'm sick, I know.

Re:Yay (1)

Brothernone (928252) | about 8 years ago | (#15714345)

It's slashdot.. noob flaming is the only result of a comment like this. I enjoy good reading material for the restroom.

Re:Yay (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714228)

I'd rather just go play sports outside... in the sunlight. (i'm sick, i know.)

Heh. Try living in Phoenix. No, not sunlight... it burns... IT BURNS!!!

It comes down to... (1)

andrewman327 (635952) | about 8 years ago | (#15713821)

If there is widespread game support on all of the next-gen systems, this could come down to hardware, pricing, and marketing. I know that the opening salvo of the last round of the console war was largely games available after launch.

Great (1)

mrxak (727974) | about 8 years ago | (#15713823)

I'm not going to buy a Wii or any other console in this next generation, but I want the Wii to do very well since I think the technology and fun-aspect of it are very exciting. The "Wiimote" is pretty darn cool, and they seem to be interested in user-experience more than anybody else.

Re:Great (2, Interesting)

daeley (126313) | about 8 years ago | (#15714239)

I'm not going to buy a Wii or any other console in this next generation, but I want the Wii to do very well since I think the technology and fun-aspect of it are very exciting. The "Wiimote" is pretty darn cool, and they seem to be interested in user-experience more than anybody else.

So why won't you be buying a Wii?

Lost in Translation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15713826)

I am very interested to see how their basketball games transition to the Wii. I hope you will still be able to play all their games in the traditional manner.

In related news.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15713836)

....Hell has frozen over, as new development has actually ocurred at EA. Satan could not be reached for comment, but a spokesdemon for the Father of Lies states that "we expect the temperature to return to normal around this time next year".

Support (1)

acu_gumby (813517) | about 8 years ago | (#15713840)

It's good to see support from large companies for the Wii. It looks like there will be some quality games for this system.

Re:Support (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714063)

Yes, and EA's releasing games on the Wii too, so now we've been assured some crappy titles as well!!!

Wii all the way for us (3, Insightful)

SydShamino (547793) | about 8 years ago | (#15713841)

Even if I don't like EA as a company, everything I hear makes me feel that a Wii (and neither a 360 or PS3) is the way for us to go for this next generation, in terms of games options, fun, innovation, and of course cost. And this comes from a family that now has just a PS2 + PC games.

Other than the "poorer" graphics (intentional quotation marks), what bad stuff *has* come out about the Wii? Anything?

Re:Wii all the way for us (3, Insightful)

Dr. Eggman (932300) | about 8 years ago | (#15713895)

Its new name.

Re:Wii all the way for us (2, Funny)

C0rinthian (770164) | about 8 years ago | (#15714204)

Everytime the Wii is mentioned, I think of 'Gonads and Strife'

Re:Wii all the way for us (3, Funny)

snuf23 (182335) | about 8 years ago | (#15714384)

Yo! I was playing a video game, And this guy he was like "I got the wiimote" And I was like... OH MY GOD! WIIIIII!

Apparently we're not the only ones who have made the connection, there have been some YTMND pages involving the wii and gonads and strife.

Re:Wii all the way for us (1)

SydShamino (547793) | about 8 years ago | (#15714325)

*chuckle*

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

Re:Wii all the way for us (1)

27,000 (987534) | about 8 years ago | (#15714112)

There hasn't been a lot of anything coming out about the Wii. No news is good news, sure, but we lack a lot of technical data. Rumors of a launch date, rumors of hardware in production, educated guesses on price and stock quantity. We know nothing of the Virtual Console, which could be a whole circus of DRM and licensing (fortunately today's Nintendo isn't the same old 10NES Nintendo). We don't know how the DS will interact with the Wii.

It's good for Nintendo, of course. Certain other consoles have been buried in negative press and overhyped claims, which will hurt them if they ever launch...

Re:Wii all the way for us (1)

twistedsymphony (956982) | about 8 years ago | (#15714406)

well I own a 360 and I've been pretty damn happy with it. As an owner of all 4 last gen consoles I think I was the happiest with the Dreamcast and once that died an early death my opinion of the games available on the other consoles was overly apathetic with the exception of the occasional game here or there. The 360 got me excited about gaming again. It's hard to describe how amazing the Live integration really is. The Wiimote looks to do to controllers what the new Xbox Live has done to online services. It's not just multiplayer and it's nothing like Steam. Every new little feature has you going "damn thats great, why didn't game companies do this decades ago?!"

The only "NEW" thing the PS3 seems to be bringing to the table is Blu-Ray. And where I don't have any interest in that the console isn't worth the $600 price tag. I'll pick one up when it has a list of features or games I want for the price I feel they're worth. I've owned a PS1 and PS2 but I was least impressed with the PS2 last generation and Sony's arrogance, lack of innovation (unless you count shoving their other products down your throat as innovation), all for an overwhelming price has turned me off for the time being.

The wii on the other hand I'm really excited about. The controller looks to really shake up how we think about games and I really can't wait to see the kind of innovative titles that are bound to pop up on that console. The 360 had just enough good launch titles to get me to buy one and I was overwhelming surprised by the innovation offered in new Live service/dashboard so it's easy to say my impression improved after getting one and exploring all the features. The Wii has me just as excited and it hasn't even launched yet... and for the price you'd be a fool not to pick one up.

Wii60 FTW

Re:Wii all the way for us (1)

mikeisme77 (938209) | about 8 years ago | (#15714498)

I'm in the same boat as you (regarding the last generation)--had all 4 of them and the Dreamcast was by far my favorite. I STILL own more games for it than I do on any of the other 3 consoles--almost 30 games on the Dreamcast and just under 20 for the next closest console (either XBox or Gamecube--they both had really close counts and I don't remember which one had a game or two more than the other). I ended up selling my PS2 to my younger brother after not finding a 'must own' game on it for 2 years and only having about 10 games on it anyway (2 of which were actually his).

There was a lot of innovation going on for the Dreamcast launch (a lot of it from Sega), but after the Dreamcast died it seemed to fizzle out--Sega is now a shell of what it used to be (Naka and Suzuki both left to form their own development groups--or at least that was the last rumor I heard). PowerStone was never ported to the other consoles and has yet to see a sequel (although I heard something about them being re-released...) Shenmue is MIA now and Crazy Taxi died off after being ported to the other systems and maybe one more sequel after that. And what happened to the sequel for Skies of Arcadia?

Re:Wii all the way for us (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714413)

Howabout the fact that nearly all the games will be simple little POS tech demos that do nothing other then use a gimmicky input system, just like the DS?

"true to its fanchise"? (5, Insightful)

numbski (515011) | about 8 years ago | (#15713848)

Translation - they're all going to be sequels. No original content from us. We're EA, what did you expect?

Re:"true to its fanchise"? (2, Insightful)

MaestroSartori (146297) | about 8 years ago | (#15714071)

Yeah, because the first thing you'll think when you make a game that sells loads is "Ahh, now I've done that I never need to do it again and make even more money with a product people obviously want!"

What people should really be objecting to is crappy sequels, not sequels themselves. Whether EA's sequels are always crappy is very much a matter of opinion, I quite like some of them. And enough people buy them to keep those sequels at the top of the retail charts for a long, long time.

Re:"true to its fanchise"? (2, Insightful)

Edgewize (262271) | about 8 years ago | (#15714119)

Yeah. I'm tired of sequels too. Lets destroy all copies of The Empire Strikes Back, and burn all the comic books after #1 of any series.

George Bernard Shaw said that there are only two stories. Should we stop writing books because they borrow from old themes?

Just because something presents a familiar CONCEPT doesn't mean that it can't still be original in its execution.

Re:"true to its fanchise"? (1)

Clockwurk (577966) | about 8 years ago | (#15714227)

THe six titles are probably the following:

Madden 07
NBA Live 07
Tiger Woods Golf 07
FIFA 07
Fight Night Round 4
SSX

Re:"true to its fanchise"? (2, Informative)

twistedsymphony (956982) | about 8 years ago | (#15714442)

If you RTFA you wouldn't have to guess...
you only got half of them right:
The Godfather
Harry Potter
Madden NFL
Need for Speed
SSX
Tiger Woods PGA TOUR

zomg (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15713854)

first bitcches!

Re:zomg (-1, Flamebait)

Valthan (977851) | about 8 years ago | (#15713928)

Please refer to the top of the comments and notice that I was the one who in fact got the first, and you are quite, extremely late in your "firt" post.

It's About Time... (-1, Redundant)

creimer (824291) | about 8 years ago | (#15713862)

That EA gave a "wheeeeeeee!" :P

At least.... (1)

DrifterX79 (824302) | about 8 years ago | (#15713870)

At least something will be new about an easports title. I'm surprised they bothered to update their control scheme, when they could of said "just use gamecube controllers."

Wii and PS3 Love At EA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15713929)

My friend who worked on the Godfather game and many other EA games used to be really up on the Wii(or Revolution earlier this year). As an engineer he was absolutely fawning at getting to work with the PS3 hardware - he says he's never worked on a system as cool and crazy powerful compared to everything else like the PS3 before. And as a gamer he was excited about the Revolution and all sorts of crazy game ideas to go with the controller.

However, now that he has had a chance to work with the system and use the controller he has become a lot less enthusiastic. His attitude about the Wii is now closer to 'it's ok' Nothing really that revolutionary after the initial excitement about using the controller. He says the controller now is about as exciting as analog joypad input - can't really imagine going without it but nothing you really are thinking about when you use it everyday.

I won't go into what he says about the 360...But I am surprised EA is still giving token support to the console. The 360 is doing worse than the Dreamcast and EA didn't bother to port any of their games to the system.

Parent = Anonymous Coward Sony Fanboy Troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714062)

Anonymous Coward Sony Fanboy Troll strikes again ...

Seriously, when are you going to give up? Every day you either post that the PSP is poised to replace the Gameboy, the DS is crappy compared to the PSP, that the PS3 will dominate the next generation wars, or that Developers are disapointed with everything except for the PS3. The odd thing is that every one of your claims goes against common sense and what is obvious to everyone else.

If you seriously are/know developers get an account and post under it; otherwise shut the fuck up.

Re:Wii and PS3 Love At EA (3, Interesting)

timster (32400) | about 8 years ago | (#15714070)

People get used to things after a while. Film at 11.

Personally the touchscreen on my DS doesn't seem like a big deal to me anymore, but that doesn't mean I like Trauma Center or Meteos any less, and neither game would be much fun without the touchscreen. Of course, your game developer friend isn't playing all the new games in the works for the Wii, as they haven't been released yet. I'm sure that swinging the controller around on the devkit demo does get old after a while.

Re:Wii and PS3 Love At EA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714130)

Regardless, the Wii is slowing turning from the 'industry rocking system that will bring innovation and gameplay and defeat the pointless race for more polys" to "GameCube+ with a pointing device bolted on". I don't doubt that the Wii will fly off the shelves even if it goes for the higher price point of 250 instead of 200, but a year from now? Two years? How viable is the system going to be?

I haven't gotten to use the controller nearly as much as my friend has and but the little time I did use it it was cool but so far the few games I've seen are not really that innovative other than 'swing your Revmote' vs 'swivel your thumb on your joypad'.

I've been looking through the release list of Wii games that are in the pipeline for the first year or so and there is a tremendous amount of standard console games with a little bit of pointing/swinging added to them. So far the only game that really makes the Wii seem worth it is the new Mario.

Perhaps there are others I've missed.

Re:Wii and PS3 Love At EA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714202)

GameCube+ with a pointing device bolted on

Ok ...

Anonymous Coward Sony Fanboy Troll,

You're so misinformed that it isn't even funny. In producing the Wii the GPU and CPU both use a 90nm process (as compared to the 180nm process used on the Gamecube), it has been confirmed by ATI that the GPU has been built from the ground up for this system and IBM has confirmed that the Wii uses a custom CPU that is not based on the Gamecube's Gekko processor; in fact, being that they are using a 90nm process and the timing of the creation of the CPU it is very likely that they are using a PowerPC 970 (G5) based CPU. ATI has already made statements like "We have only seen the tip of the iceburg of graphical power on the Wii". In fact the only games we have seen are in a similar point in their life that Perfect Dark Zero was in with the "Wall Guy" screenshot.

Unless you have a link I don't want to hear any more of your astroturfing.

Just shut up.

Re:Wii and PS3 Love At EA (2, Funny)

blighter (577804) | about 8 years ago | (#15714113)

Ah the anonymous Sony astroturfer!

It's just not a console article without you!

Let's see, the article's about the EA's support for the Wii so you mention right off how awesome the PS3 is and finish with a superfluous dig at the 360.

You know, I should probably be annoyed at the low level of the astoturfing on display here, but somehow running across your posts always brightens my day!

Thank you Sony-Shill!

(Hey! Here's an idea! How about you register for an account and then I can find your comments more easily! You could even use the name "Sony Shill"! Unless you already registered for an account and were moderated into oblivion [not the 360 game though, because we all know that really super-duper sucks, right?! LOL!] and so had to resort to anonymity to fulfill your contractual astroturfing duties...)

Re:Wii and PS3 Love At EA (1)

computertheque (823940) | about 8 years ago | (#15714191)

If all they are doing at EA is adapting current games to a new control scheme, then yes, they are not going to be excited about it. They're thinking about it in all the wrong ways.

Re:Wii and PS3 Love At EA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714249)

"If all they are doing at EA is adapting current games to a new control scheme, then yes, they are not going to be excited about it. They're thinking about it in all the wrong ways."

So EA is thinking about it an all the wrong ways when they are putting all their sports games on the Wii? Or their first person shooters?

Not to defend EA and their games that I rarely play, but what is there beyond the revmote being used to point at things or detect gestures that game companies are supposed to be doing? There is a lot of talk about innovation and the Wii but where are these innovative games?

Re:Wii and PS3 Love At EA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714362)

There is a lot of talk about innovation and the Wii but where are these innovative games?

Anonymous Coward Sony Fanboy Troll,

First off, Nintendo is not going to announce any inovative titles that are going to be released after launch for fear of them being ripped off by Sony or some disreputable third party (http://psp.ign.com/objects/804/804004.html). Secondly, they're trying to produce as many conventional games in unique ways at this point in time (Excite Truck, Mario Galaxy, Project Hammer). Also note that games like Wii Sports seems pretty inovative compared to every game that is being released on the PS3.

Finally, just shut up! People are tired of having to mod you down.

Re:Wii and PS3 Love At EA (5, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | about 8 years ago | (#15714237)

He says the controller now is about as exciting as analog joypad input - can't really imagine going without it but nothing you really are thinking about when you use it everyday.

Sounds perfect. I wouldn't want it any other way. Any other way would imply that the controller was difficult to get used to. Just like the first use of an analog controller in Mario 64 seemed weird and exciting just on its own, pretty soon I got used to it and was more interested in how I could make mario run around than specifically thinking about the analog controller.

If the result of the Wii is that in the subsequent generation people consider motion-sensitive 3D-positioned controls to be both as fundamental and mundane as analog joysticks are today, then I don't think you could call it anything but a smashing success.

Re:Wii and PS3 Love At EA (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | about 8 years ago | (#15714402)

can't really imagine going without it but nothing you really are thinking about when you use it everyday.

That's what makes a good controller, the fact that you no longer have to think about it. It's an interface, a tool, not the game itself.

This seals it. (1)

Ryan Amos (16972) | about 8 years ago | (#15714025)

Wii will be the console of choice for the next gen, followed by XBox 360, then PS3 as a close 3rd.

The only "if" in Wii's corner was EA's sports franchises. This pretty much guarantees it as long as the final Wii controller has enough buttons.

Re:This seals it. (2, Insightful)

rev063 (591509) | about 8 years ago | (#15714336)

But why would the Wii controller need more buttons, even for an EA game? That's the whole *point* of the Wiimote -- rather than having a zillion buttons to map to the various actions in the game, you use gestures of the controller itself. If it works out, playing games should be more like playing sports: easy to pick up, but with practice of the gestures comes mastery.

Re:This seals it. (1)

Dan Ost (415913) | about 8 years ago | (#15714415)

Aren't you being a bit presumptuous?

The 360 is selling so poorly that even mediocre sales will put both the
Wii and the PS3 ahead of it. Nobody's played the PS3 yet, so it seems
silly to write it off the page as being unable to compete (although I
do agree that the initial price is daunting). Most of the interest in
the Wii is because it's the console that we have the least information
on. Once it's out and we've had a chance to evaluate the possibilities
of the new controller, then we'll be in a position to speculate how things
will play out in the long run.

Wait until we've had a chance to play them all before deciding the fate
of the industry.

This is news? (1)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 8 years ago | (#15714075)

"Electronic Arts has confirmed they are 100% committed to the Nintendo Wii..."

This is news? I don't think so.

News would be: "The biggest game software vendor declines to write games for the industry's next major platform, thus ceding leadership to bit players X, Y and Z."

Re:This is news? (1)

DrEldarion (114072) | about 8 years ago | (#15714095)

Seriously. This story needs to be modded -1, "Duh".

Re:This is news? (1)

Metroid72 (654017) | about 8 years ago | (#15714245)

I don't know what angle are you using here, but if you look at the business impact of this, it's a MAJOR piece of news. Ever since the "couch-potato sport's simulation lovin" crowd was identified as a major videogame consumer, having EA on your side can make or break your console efforts.

I don't like sports simulations, so this means nothing to me either, but software drives console penetration that drives more software to be developed/brought over from Japan. And that's where the sweet things start happening.

Welcome EA! But step aside, I'll be checking out the Adventure/RPG sections.

Re:This is news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714306)

EA didn't support the dreamcast, and it died. So this is news. Or it would be, apart from the fact that I already knew all these games were coming to Revolution (gah, wii) anyway because they were all announced seperately beforehand, mostly at E3... I think the only new information here is that there will be a rev SSX port.

No surprise there. (1, Funny)

kabocox (199019) | about 8 years ago | (#15714089)

Um, I can't really say that I'm surprised at all. Come on Sega could make a new hardware platform and EA would make a few games for it. EA will be making games for all 3 consoles.

You know if EA really wanted to make some news; they'd start a nude sports series that was adult only that was the same exact games except that the players were all nude. O.k. the only games of that line that I would want is women's track & field, women's ice skating, women's swimming & women's tennis. I wouldn't want Nude Madden 2006 at all.

Re:No surprise there. (1)

edmicman (830206) | about 8 years ago | (#15714234)

I think I'd personally go for "women's beach volleyball"...

Re:No surprise there. (2, Insightful)

masklinn (823351) | about 8 years ago | (#15714273)

Come on Sega could make a new hardware platform and EA would make a few games for it.

EA didn't actually port any game to the DreamCast... so no.

Not that this was a bad thing for the DC though.

Half-naked EA innovation (1)

dstone (191334) | about 8 years ago | (#15714470)

You know if EA really wanted to make some news; they'd start a nude sports series that was adult only that was the same exact games except that the players were all nude.

Shade your eyes. EA Sports Triple Play Baseball (either '98 or '99) for PC & Playstation had a secret team that consisted of the software developers and artists in their underwear. Cheat codes are available somewhere for that.

Re:No surprise there. (1)

torqer (538711) | about 8 years ago | (#15714480)

Adult only track and field. Hmm... I'd love to see the "pole" vault.

Re:No surprise there. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714555)

They could do an update of that Custer game from the early '80s.

Please sir, may I have another? (3, Insightful)

Anthony Boyd (242971) | about 8 years ago | (#15714092)

EA is reknown for treating employees less than fairly. And I don't really like many of their games. But strong 3rd-party support is something that Nintendo has been lacking, and this helps to dig them out of the hole just a little bit.

If Nintendo could get similar statements from other big companies, it would do so much for their prospects. I would really like to see Blizzard, Bioware, and Obsidian doing Wii games. I respect their PC games, and I think they could help to up the ante.

Also, I'm starting to get excited about Nintendo's new console for a different reason. People have struggled with RTS console games [penny-arcade.com] , due to the controllers. But couldn't the Wiimote work similar to a laser pointer? If so, wouldn't that open up some better control mechanisms for RTS console games?

-Tony

Re:Please sir, may I have another? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714230)

While the idea of using the 'wii-mote' for the control of an RTS is inticing, most developers have expressed concerns with the graphical prowess of the Wii and it's abilities to render units with enough detail to see from across the room. Because it lacks the high-definition support I highly doubt that there will be many RTS games for the wii.

Re:Please sir, may I have another? (1)

masklinn (823351) | about 8 years ago | (#15714287)

People have struggled with RTS console games, due to the controllers. But couldn't the Wiimote work similar to a laser pointer? If so, wouldn't that open up some better control mechanisms for RTS console games?

mmm...

How about no?

A pointer isn't enough for an RTS by a long shot, it'd be barely enough to play Warcraft III, and Warcraft III isn't the most complex RTS out there by a long shot.

Console's low res would also mightily blow.

Re:Please sir, may I have another? (1)

Knuckles (8964) | about 8 years ago | (#15714496)

A pointer isn't enough for an RTS

That's why there are buttons on the remote, the nunchuck with an analog stick and buttons (and also positional input), and optional attachments.

I for one... (3, Funny)

Ant P. (974313) | about 8 years ago | (#15714179)

am screaming in horror at this.

More bad news for the PS3 (1)

CubeNudger (984277) | about 8 years ago | (#15714192)

I bet this is more about EA realizing that the PS3's high price is gonna boost the Wii's market share than about a desire to spend a lot of money developing unique ports for a third place (according to CW) console. Am I the only one who remembers EA not porting to the Dreamcast because of their (somewhat self-fufilling) prophecy of PS2 dominance? I still bet Madden will suck though.

Re:More bad news for the PS3 (1)

trdrstv (986999) | about 8 years ago | (#15714403)

Sega Screwed EA during the Saturn Days. That's why the Dreamcast didn't get their support.

If EA is in... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714242)

While EA may not have a great track record for orginality, they are still an industry heavyweight.

This means that if EA is supporting the Wii, other big publishers will most likely step up and offer titles as well. This leads to more AAA titles and (hopefully) more innovative games that will truly make use of the Wii-mote.

There are hundreds of crap games for every Starcraft / Sims / Civ out there, afterall.

Sweet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15714359)

Sweet

This could hurt Sony (1)

vix86 (592763) | about 8 years ago | (#15714370)

This is likely to be one of the first blows to Sony's PS3. While I know the vast majority of /.ers arn't fans of EA, the public tends to say otherwise. Their flagship title, Madden, will bring a lot of people to the Wii. I figure in the coming future we'll see a lot more announcements like this.

The real people that are going to determine if the PS3 "wins" or the Wii "wins" are the develops/publishers. Whatever system they decide to release on most is the one that everyone is going to flock to because they want those games.

...and the bad jokes keep coming. (2, Funny)

Senzei (791599) | about 8 years ago | (#15714440)

Nice title "EA Confirms Major Wii Support". I, for one, did not know EA was getting into the underwear business. Not at all suprised they are the kind of tightasses that would only make briefs.
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