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Kiefer Sutherland Headlines Dragonlance Movie

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the you-are-entering-a-parallel-world dept.

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Pre-production on the animated Dragonlance film is continuing apace, and the voice casting for the Companions has been completed. Kiefer Sutherland will be headlining as the voice of Raistlin Majere. Other case members will include Michael Rosenbaum (Justice League's Flash) as Tanis Half-Elven, Lucy Lawless as Goldmoon, Michelle Trachtenberg at Tika Waylan, and Jason Marsden as Tasslehoff Burrfoot. From the site: "The film is based on the first book in the Chronicles series, "Dragons of Autumn Twilight". The director is comics and TV animation veteran, Will Meugniot, and the screenplay has been adapted by George Strayton with plenty of involvement from Margaret and Tracy."

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Ding! (-1, Flamebait)

walnutmon (988223) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730355)

Who Cares?!

Re:Ding! (1)

MasterofGS (989146) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730367)

It's not really mature to make such post don't you agree? By the way, when will it be released?

Re:Ding! (1)

woozlewuzzle (532172) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730390)

Fall 2007 is the target according to the website

Re:Ding! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15730383)

I was just about to post the same freakin' thing. And in answer? I have no freakin' idea. Slow. News. Day.

By the way, how 'bout those wars in the middle east?

Oh great (4, Funny)

0racle (667029) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730361)

How am I supposed to ogle an animated Lucy Lawless?

Re:Oh great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15731203)

Forget Lucy. Remember the original Larry Elmore cover art? Goldmoon was smoking.

Justice League's Flash? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15730366)

He's also Smallville's Lex Luthor! It's a much bigger role.

Re:Justice League's Flash? (1)

JFMulder (59706) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730382)

And he actually makes a cool Lex Luthor. I never liked the movie Lexes. They always felt corny. I think the guy who played Lex in Lois and Clark was pretty good too (tough I haven't seen this show in years, it may be that my childhood memories are better than what they actually were)

Sutherland as Raistlan? I'm not so sure... (2, Insightful)

MrNash (907751) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730407)

I have a lot of trouble putting Sutherland and Raistlan together. It's probably just the whole Jack Bower thing, but Keifer Sutherland has built such a tough-as-nails, show no mercy personna around himself thanks to 24 that I'm having a lot of trouble picturing him as the sickly, yet sinister Raistlan. Granted it's a voice acting gig, so hopefully that will help with any potential suspension of disbelief issues some may have with this casting choice. :\

Re:Sutherland as Raistlan? I'm not so sure... (5, Insightful)

shotgunsaint (968677) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730529)

Yeah, but think about the breathy, nervous scientist in Dark City. I think he'll definitely be goot as ol' Raist.

Re:Sutherland as Raistlan? I'm not so sure... (1)

plague3106 (71849) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731042)

I didn't realize that was him in Dark City. That was such a great movie, its too bad it seems no one every saw it.

Thanks to cigarettes.... (1)

electrosoccertux (874415) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730743)

He's going to fill the role great. He's a perfect wheezing, coughing Raistlan.

But nonetheless this movie would be a billion times better with real people.

Re:Thanks to cigarettes.... (1)

MrNash (907751) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730760)

Keifer Sutherland smokes? I didn't know that. I wonder what his dad thinks about it. Donald Sutherland has a reputation for being very anti-smoking (maybe because Keifer smokes?).

Re:Sutherland as Raistlan? I'm not so sure... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15730832)

What do you care, when you can't even spell the characters name correctly?

Re:Sutherland as Raistlan? I'm not so sure... (1)

caseydk (203763) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731101)


The good thing is that the whole War of the Lance will now be over in 24 hours.

The bad thing is that Raistlin will have more kills than anyone... wait, I think that's how it worked out last time.

Re:Sutherland as Raistlan? I'm not so sure... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15731277)

Until I read the summary (which was after I read this post) I immediately had Sutherland as Tanis stuck in my head.

Re:Sutherland as Raistlan? I'm not so sure... (1)

RingDev (879105) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731935)

I always imagined Raistlan with a gritty voice. The whole 'living in constant pain' thing. Not high pitched and screechy, or super deep. But a solid, commanding, gritty voice, broken up by coughing fits.

-Rick

This article is a clumsy fake (2, Funny)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730417)

Not one of those names is replete with the required f'antasy punc'tuation.

I read that in High School (3, Funny)

Asahi Super Dry (531752) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730459)

It's my understanding that the book was basically an edited transcript of a Dungeons and Dragons game run by the authors. Is that in fact the case? Regardless (and this is of course just my opinion) it made me never want to read a book based on a game ever again. I can't think of a single thing I liked about it. If D&D really was the instrument of Satan then the guy has remarkably questionable taste.

Re:I read that in High School (4, Interesting)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730659)

that is actually true, the entire series apparently spawned from one of the author's theatrical performance of his D&D character one night.

Personally I found the main arc of the series to be really good (the Dragons of * books, didn't really care for any of the others.) I think I may have enjoyed it only for the characters.
As far as game related books, I do believe the Battletech book series was spawned by the table top RPG, and I find for the most part they were excellent.

I think the one thing that makes a successful fantasy/sci-fi book is the authors. I know that Micheal A Stackpole authored many of the Star Wars novels, as well as most of the battletech books I enjoyed.

now onto another topic, wasn't there already a Dragonlance cartoon in the 80's, and didn't it suck hard (removed violence to make it a kids show or something)? Hopefully this will be more oriented towards a mature audience.

Re:I read that in High School (1)

samurphy21 (193736) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730741)

As far as I know there wasn't any such cartoon. I was an enormous DL fan when I was an adolescent (28 now). The first book in the series was printed in 1984 (Autumn Twilight), so I guess it's possible, but IMDB has nothing on a Dragonlance entity of any kind, except this one, and a quick google search just brings back this same future release.

Re:I read that in High School (1)

carnifex0 (120168) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730795)

wasn't there already a Dragonlance cartoon in the 80's, and didn't it suck hard

You may be thinking of the Dungeons and Dragons [zaksrealm.net] cartoon which aired Saturday Morning from '83 to '85 on CBS.

Re:I read that in High School (1)

SomeoneGotMyNick (200685) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730802)

wasn't there already a Dragonlance cartoon in the 80's, and didn't it suck hard (removed violence to make it a kids show or something)?


There was a Dungeons and Dragons cartoon for Saturday mornings. You can see it from time to time on the Toon Disney Saturday and Sunday at 7PM. In fact, I watched it last night. It was not Dragonlance based as the latter came after the cartoons.

Close-ish (2, Informative)

BitterAndDrunk (799378) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730942)

Raistlin's rasping whisper was the result of one player's characterization.

Bupu, the gully dwarf, also was spawned from their sessions.

To claim it was a transcript, however, is a bit of a reach. The ideas came from the sessions, and the basic outline of the plot was based on the modules, but most of it was their own.

And the Legends series, AFAIK, was completely independent of the modules. I consider that series to be fantastic, much better than Chronicles. But both were fantastic. Fizban rules.

Re:I read that in High School (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731560)

Agreed... although the "Twins" trilogy was very very good also IMO (written by the same authors)... but once other authors started into the setting with the "Tales" book (and the three gazillion books afterwards) i lost all interest.

However, the first and second trilogy is a great read IMO. Also, "Dragons of Summer Flame" (the uber-long 4th book of the original "trilogy" which came out YEARS after the orginal trilogy and by the original authors) is not too bad either.

Re:I read that in High School (1)

reybrujo (177253) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731936)

Since I am an active contributor to the Wikipedia pages of Dragonlance, imagine how excited I am that, after so long, there are real news about this vaporfilm. Hopefully I will be able to watch it before I am too old to remember the series. At this point, I don't care who is helping with the voices, I just want to watch it! Shamefully, I guess I must thank Harry Potter for giving producers an excuse to continue with this project.

Personally, although the Chronicles trilogy is good, and the Legends trilogy is better, the Kingpriest is the best ever written, followed by the Ergoth one. As for novels, Spirit of the Wind and The Soulforge are very high in my list.

always been a fan (2, Interesting)

Kranfer (620510) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730470)

I have always been a fan of the Dragonlance books. For a year or so I even sat on the Whitestone council who does the new 3rd Edition D&D books for Dragonlance. Went to GenCon met Margaret and Tracy got recognized at the Dragonlance Author Reception etc... was great. Now I am slightly... well I don't like the idea of an animated Dragonlance film. Its something that can do JUST as well at the box office as LOTR did... and I just have a feeling that this MIGHT just MIGHT destroy it for me. I want to see a live action version of the movie.

Also what happened to Aron Eisenberg playing Tasslehoff? He volunteered to play it years ago and hes being pushed off? WTF? (BTW Aron is Nog on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine for those of you who don't know.)

I am going to take this with a gain of salt for now I suppose. It has potential... but I don't like the idea of animated movies from a book. I didn't even like the animated version of LOTR. Can't connect with it as much. Ah well.

Re:always been a fan (2, Insightful)

fritzk3 (883083) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730998)

I think an animated/CG version of the film would make it easier, or more cost-effective, to generate the special effects (spells, dragon breath weapons) that come along with any D&D-based story.

I imagine it also makes it easier to draw the characters in ridiculous proportions (think of an over-muscled Caramon, or a Sturm with layer after layer of armor) without having to come up with the costumes or makeup that would accomplish the same effect.

I'd watch whatever version came out, just to see how that particular director interpreted the written word and the landscapes that he/she created from the descriptions in the books.

Kiefer is a horrible choice. (2, Insightful)

Jerk City Troll (661616) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730471)

Raistlin is a subtle, quiet-spoken, calm, cold and calculating character. Kiefer could not be more different. Based on his antics in 24 and other roles, he does everything over-the-top. His gestures and voice are always exaggerated and phoney. As silly as it may seem, Sir Ian McKellen, speaking softly might do it (I honestly do not mean to type-cast him, but the man is could be perfectly suited for this). (And damn, there is another actor I am thinking of who would be just as good, but I cannot remember the name at the moment.)

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15730671)

Bobcat Goldthwait?
Sam Kinison?
Gilbert Gottfriend?
Lewis Black? ...

Steven Wright?

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

twattock (976339) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730702)

I think Kevin Spacey would be perfect...

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (4, Insightful)

Telastyn (206146) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730950)

On reflection, I disagree. Kiefer was quite good as an anonymous voice in Phone Booth, which is similar to the calm malevolance needed for Raistlin. Add Kiefer's general raspy overtone and you've got the vocal parts for the character. I'm a little more skeptical of the Lawless choice though.

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

dragonsapp (307227) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730967)

And damn, there is another actor I am thinking of who would be just as good, but I cannot remember the name at the moment.

Could the name you be thinking of be: Christopher Walken http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000686/ [imdb.com]

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (4, Funny)

chuck (477) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731125)

You must be thinking of Samuel L. Jackson.

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (2, Funny)

DarthVain (724186) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731528)

Do you SEE the hourglasses in my muther fuckin' eyes muther fucker! I'm Raistlin Majere Bitch!

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

loucura! (247834) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731570)

Get these mother-fucking snakes out of my mother-fucking robe!

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

SuiteSisterMary (123932) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731790)

Now hand me my staff. It's the one that says 'magic muther fucker' on it.

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

AgentSmith (69695) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731596)

Hand me that Staff of Magius over there. Th' one that says "Bad Muthafucka" on it!

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

ajs (35943) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731146)

You're falling into a typical trap with respect to typecasting. Sutherland is a fine actor, and he's done some very good work in fantasy and SF. He'll play Raistlin just fine, and no, you don't need "that guy that played that other wizard" to play every wizard ever depicted on the screen. What's more, I'm not sure that Sir Ian would make a very good voice actor. He has a fine voice, but he's also a very physical actor. Sutherland, on the other hand has done a fair amount of voice work, and he does an excellent job.

Then again, you could argue that everyone in Hollywood these days is a voice actor, given the amount of dubbing your average movie has.

With respect to Raistlin, I'd be far more concerned about the screenwriter's and/or director's take on the story and characters than the choice for one particular actor.

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

sdibb (630075) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731244)

Oh, I dunno .. he has a good range, I think. Ever seen Dark City?

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

blincoln (592401) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731745)

he has a good range, I think. Ever seen Dark City?

Or Flatliners, or The Lost Boys. I haven't read any Dragonlance books since I was a kid, but I think this could turn out pretty well.

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

nuzak (959558) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731494)

> Raistlin is a subtle, quiet-spoken, calm, cold and calculating character.

It's a voice part. Sutherland can do soft-spoken too. But personally, I'd cast James Spader.

But really, this movie is going to suck as bad as the D&D animated series. This movie is probably going to suck worse than the Dungeons and Dragons movie. Not that anything could do the books justice except maybe a chipper -- those were seriously bad books (I'll admit to liking them when I first read them, but I also liked Velveeta when I was a kid too).

Re:Kiefer is a horrible choice. (1)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 8 years ago | (#15732128)

Raistlin is a subtle, quiet-spoken, calm, cold and calculating character.

You mean, like Keifer as the vampire David in "The Lost Boys"? Yeah, he could never pull that off. <rolls eyes at kids these days>

It's going to be crap (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15730509)

How do I know? In browsing their website I found these two little nuggets:

Who's written the script for the film?
The script for the film has been adapted from "Dragons of Autumn Twilight" by George Strayton. Strayon has penned several episodes of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and was a key staff writer on Xena: Warrior Princess.

What will be the running time for the film?
The movie is an animated feature film and will have a running time of approximately 90-100 minutes.

So it's written by a guy whose best work is absolute tripe. The dialogue of Xena and Hercules is one of the worst parts of those shows. And 90-100 minutes is not "feature length" for a book adaptation like this. 120 minutes would be a bare minimum, and 150 would make me feel a lot more comfortable. I would love to think this movie is going to be decent, but right now it looks like a disaster.

Re:It's going to be crap (4, Insightful)

Achoi77 (669484) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731140)

Here is a quote from Margaret Wies:

...Suffice it to say, Tracy and I have been working with the production team for over a year now. They've been wonderful to work with! They've allowed us to have script approval and asked for our suggestions. They've shown us all the art work and allowed us approval on that (as well as the WoTC art director in charge of Dragonlance)...

Weis and Hickman haven't lost complete control (yet), so let's reserve judgement untill we start seeing more material. They'll have a say on the script, and I don't think they are willing so mess this chance by jumping the shark on their fans.

I do think, however, that 90-100 minutes will be way too short. I'm actually more worried that the movie is animated! :-( If it looks like a Don Bluth film, I'm gonna cringe.

It's *NOT* going to be crap (1)

jhines0042 (184217) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731455)

I know from first hand experience that the gentleman who is writing the script is a fantastic RPer and I personally feel confident that he will do the series justice, especially if he is working with Margaret and Tracy.

Joe H.

Re:It's going to be crap (1)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731468)

If it looks like a Don Bluth film, I'm gonna cringe
Why would you say that exactly? Not that I am disagreeing with you, but "The Land Before Time" was showing at a diner I grabbed lunch at yesterday and I ended up in a conversation about animation styles. I would like to hear your take on the Don Bluth stuff and see if it meshes with my own.
It is obviously well behind the times, but there were interesting features that marked it as Don Bluth for me. I'm not quite sure if they were actually flaws, or 'features'. Anyone have any comments?

Re:It's going to be crap (1)

ajs (35943) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731184)

Certainly the screenwriter is a key player, but I don't think you can judge this guy. It's not that his "best" work was on Hercules/Xena, it's that his only work was on Hercules/Xena. He's essentially an unknown that got a break on a rather cartoony series and it's related shows. That doesn't mean he's a waste of hydrocarbons.

I'd wait and see what he does with it, and what the director does with it.

Though, keep in mind that those books weren't exactly Lord of the Rings. I'm expecting a movie that's going to have to have kender (sigh) and a plethora of posturing mages. The only thing that will be really interesting is to see what the take on the dragons will be. Anything else that's good about it will be cream.

Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (3, Interesting)

Nova Express (100383) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730540)

  1. Neuromancer
  2. Bridge of Birds
  3. Eon
  4. Permutation City
  5. The Shadow of the Torturer
  6. Childhood's End
  7. The Diamond Age
  8. Perdido Street Station
  9. Hyperion
  10. A Fire Upon the Deep

What all these have in common is that they would be based on original novels, rather than, say, spinoff novels based on a particular campaign setting based on a particular Role Playing Game based loosely on The Lord of the Rings. Really, do we need a movie based on Dragonlance anymore than we need, say, a novelization of the video game Doom? (You've got to hand it to Linaweaver and ab Hugh for written four books based on a game who's actual description would be "He ran. He ran. He shot the monster. He ran. He shot the monster. He flipped a switch. He shot the monster. He got a bigger gun. He shot the monster...")

How about making a movie based on the best speculative fiction has to offer? Sure, 9 times out of 10 Hollywood is going to screw it up. But that's true of anything Hollywood touches. Why not at least reach for greatness?

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (2, Insightful)

paedobear (808689) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730587)

Most of those are unfilmable - Hyperion certainly is. It'd require a TV series - perhaps several seasons worth of TV series - to work.

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (2, Insightful)

crawling_chaos (23007) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730657)

And in the current religious and political climate, Childhood's End is a total non-starter as well.

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (1)

Xaositecte (897197) | more than 8 years ago | (#15732069)

I've always thought it would be a wonderful plot for something along the lines of The Twilight Zone or The outer Limits.

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (1)

Ansonmont (170786) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730783)

True. One rule of thumb I have heard that seems to make sense sometimes is that "B" grade books can make "A" films (sometimes), but that "A" books are usually too complicated to transfer successfully. The example usually cited is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit." It was a book first. Worth considering.

-A

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (1)

rho (6063) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731024)

Some are, but Diamond Age would be a brilliant movie. It would take some work, but it could be Metropolitan with special effects. There's an interesting moral angle to explore and plenty of opportunities for stunning visuals.

Biggest problem is it would require considerable rework to pare down the number of characters.

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (1)

jackbird (721605) | more than 8 years ago | (#15732014)

I'm not sure. Stephenson is so heavily dependent on descriptions of characters' perceptions of their world that I would think it'd be really hard to film his work, even something structurally simpler like Zodiac. Sure, neo-victorians riding diamond airships around could be visually stunning, but the society portrayed is so different from ours it'd be hard to film without a lot of boring speeches.

Perhaps a treatment using a few vignettes, a la Sin City or Mystery Train could work, though.

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (1)

blincoln (592401) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731833)

I think Eon could be filmed. Like all of Bear's novels that I've read, it would be a big project, but not impossible. Of his stories, I especially think that one, Anvil of Stars, and Queen of Angels would all make excellent films if done properly.

A Fire Upon the Deep would be *really* tricky to pull off, although not as much as A Deepness in the Sky.

Neuromancer and The Diamond Age could both be filmed relatively easily... if they were simplified to the point of losing the things that make them really cool. I'm thinking of that very bad screenplay version of Neuromancer that was floating around online in the 90s. It had most of the same characters and a similar story arc, but it just wasn't any good. Gibson and Stephenson cram in so much detail and plot convolution that would never make it to the screen. One of the things I always remember about Stephenson's novels is that they're told in third-person, but most of it is sort of told as if the third person is the character the scene is about, presenting it through the filter of their experience. I can't imagine that happening on screen. Something like the Cap'n Crunch section of Cryptonomicon, or the part in All Tomorrow's Parties where Gibson describes the hitman just would not work at all.

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (1)

the_womble (580291) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731013)

There is a probably more money in doing this than in what you suggest.

The game already exists and its sales will be boosted. There may also be more value in boosting sales of the comparatively little read Dragonlance novels that the more successful books you mention.

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (1)

PMuse (320639) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731160)

Time of the Twins / War of the Twins / Test of the Twins would have been a better choice than these Chronicles books. It has a more manageable cast that reduces to the members of a love triangle, with everyone else as extras. It has betrayal, scheming, action, and lurking evil. Much more compelling and easier to write a screenplay about.

Bonus: The Twins is very doable in live action (in the post-Peter Jackson LotR era).

Re:Ten Novels I'd Rather See Made Into Movies (1)

sitarah (955787) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731631)

Hyperion has been in movie-territory for awhile now. Leonardio DiCaprio had reportedly shown interest and isn't officially attached according to Dan Simmon's page, but Dan does mention a 'top-flight movie star'.

However, I have heard about this for at least 2 years now, and screenplays do sit on shelves for years in some cases.

http://www.dansimmons.com/news/movies.htm [dansimmons.com]

i for one, welcome our draconian overlords (1)

rayde (738949) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730569)

i've been a fan of the Chronicles since i first read them probably 10 years or so ago. they've been the favorite books for me and my group of friends, and I know there are others out there who are just as pumped about this as we are. plus, with 24 star Sutherland aboard, it's bound to get much needed publicity.

i'm curious as to why they chose to do it in CG... perhaps they're going for a younger demographic? that would be unfortunate, as the Chronicles had a sinister tone to them. (closer to the LotR trilogy than to the Hobbit, for those of you who have never read Dragonlance)

Re:i for one, welcome our draconian overlords (2, Informative)

MendicantMonkey (649859) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731091)

i'm curious as to why they chose to do it in CG...

I don't believe it is in CG. Unless I missed something on the site, the director's entire body of work is Saturday-morning style children's cheap TV animation. On the bright side, Larry Elmore, who did the book covers, is listed as Lead Artist on the project.

You know what I like about Slashdot? (5, Funny)

Canthros (5769) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730589)

It's that, every so often, you guys make me feel like less of a dork, if only by comparison.

Re:You know what I like about Slashdot? (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731723)

Stop kicking sand in my face, you big bully.

Raistlin = Conner McLeod (1)

stlhawkeye (868951) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730597)

Chris Lambert should voice Raistlin. Just check out his Raiden in Mortal Combat.

Re:Raistlin = Conner McLeod (1)

twattock (976339) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730742)

Aye Blossom

A more sinister voice... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15730607)

I don't recall his name but he played Rochford in the Three Musketeers movie from the mid 90's or so. Keifer was playing the role of Athos in that movie(and Chris O'Donnell was in it too.) That guy has the evil-like raspy voice that Raistlin needs. I wanna know who is gonna be the voice of Sturm Brightblade. Being the proud and noble knight that he is he will need a fitting voice. Micheal Dorn (Worf from Star Trek:TNG and DS9)comes to mind.

Why use "actors"? (3, Insightful)

mungtor (306258) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730676)

Why bother with Keifer and Lucy at all? Why not hire some real voice actors to bring some personality to the characters? That way we could become involved in the story and the characters without having to think of Xena at all.

Billy West is right... this is a strange trend of animating characters around who you want to do the voice rather than the other way round.

Re:Why use "actors"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15730957)

I'd thought the same thing. Actors are not voice actors. They suck at it, and even if they were good it would defeat the purpose of paying them millions to do the part in the first place. They want to attract people to these movies by using big, common names and then of course they need to actually sound like themselves or no one will recognize them. So sure, why not, let's have the dom from Eurotrip and the overacted scientist from Dark City head up a fantasy cartoon. That'll be positively...not watched by me at all.

Re:Why use "actors"? (1)

ajs (35943) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731207)

Sutherland's voice credits: The Wild, 24: The Game, The Flight That Fought Back, The Land Before Time X: The Great Longneck Migration, Watership Down TV series, Armitage III: Poly Matrix (a dub, I presume), The Nutcracker Prince, NASCAR 3D: The IMAX Experience.

He's not new to voice acting, so I don't see why his work in non-voice roles should disqualify him.

Re:Why use "actors"? (1)

mungtor (306258) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731601)

OK, but you have to admit that none of that is anything that people would remember. The Land Before Time X? Voice work in direct-to-video stuff? Video games? I know that Samuel L Jackson has voice credits in GTA: San Andreas, but I hardly think of his as a voice actor.

I don't think that his non-voice acting should disqualify him simply because he does it. It should disqualify him because he does it poorly, IMO. There are people who are better qualified and will create a better quality product. Getting one name in the credits for some drawing power is understandable, but loading up on them just seems like a bad idea.

Re:Why use "actors"? (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731700)

Because this is Hollywood, and the thought of making a movie without any stars whose names they can slap on the posters terrifies them. Why would anyone go to see an animated movie with a bunch of voice actors they've never heard of? Because it would be a better movie? Ridiculous!

This isn't Japan, where voice acting is considered a career unto itself and there are celebrities known for nothing but their voice acting. Sadly.

Still, there are actors in the States who can voice act well enough, and I think Keither is one of them.

What?!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15731732)

"Why bother with Keifer and Lucy at all? Why not hire some real voice actors to bring some personality to the characters? That way we could become involved in the story and the characters without having to think of Xena at all."

And why would I not want to think about Xena?! I think about Xena quite regularly. Quite often 4 to 5 times a day (more if I don't develop a chafing rash).

they don't want you to think of Stimpy either... (1)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731931)

Often it's the stuff the other poster mentioned about they want to put names on the movie posters.

Pixar doesn't use the actors names on their posters, but they also want certain kinds of voices. As versatile as Billy West, Tom Kenny or Elizabeth Daily might be, they end up either sounding boring or like cartoon voices. Neither is something the movie companies are looking for.

Billy West is right. And usually the reviewers and attendance respond positively to these techniques. I agree there are downsides to it too, it makes it difficult to make character-driven animated movies, instead creating "star vehicles". This isn't much different than the non-animated movies made by Hollywood.

I wonder (1, Funny)

skribe (26534) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730709)

I wonder if we'll see a ring of dwarves thrusting hauberks at the heroes.
Or whether the 'good' priest will disappear for a while just like in the books, where even the authors found him so dull that they forgot to include him for several chapters.

Re:I wonder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15731878)

Wow, it's been awhile since I read it. I don't remember the mail-shirt thrusting dwarves at all.

Priorities (2, Interesting)

samurphy21 (193736) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730812)

I was just scrolling through /. this morning, and I was like "Oh.. Inflatable space station, huh? That sounds kind of interesting, future of mankind and all that.. I'll check that out.. OMG DRAGONLANCE MOVIE FTW!"

I haven't even read Dragonlance for over a decade, but I'm stoked. Even if the movie is terrible, its like tasting some forgotten candy you haven't had since you were a kid, even if you found the candy in the couch.

Re:Priorities (3, Insightful)

ultranova (717540) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731226)

I haven't even read Dragonlance for over a decade, but I'm stoked.

I have, and I'm scared :(.

The Chronicles were good, as were the Legends, but after that quality went down faster than a dragon that's been turned to stone mid-flight, and the ending of "War of Souls" had to set some kind of record in sheer stupidity. Constant retcons didn't help either. Or maybe it was because Dragonlance gods were turned into glorified janitors a la Forgotten Realms that it got a bit difficult to take the whole thing seriously. Takhisis, especially, became truly pathetic, in more ways than one... Oh well, another cash cow milked to death and beyond.

So, this movie might be good, but more likely it's a thinly veiled commercial that sucks harder than the whirpool of the Blood Sea.

Re:Priorities (1)

Nycteris_a (829110) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731356)

I exactly agree. It's like candy - it's fun and not very nutritive. Sure, the books weren't LotR but what is? I absolutely loved the characters. I hope the best for this film. I anticipate that the movie will be like the Terry Pratchett movie adaptations, to be honest. Not the best, not the worst. Quirky and fun for those who already loved the world.

Intro (2, Funny)

Zann (989340) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730819)

My name is Raistlin Majere, and this is the longest day of my life.

Keifer Sutherland? Great... (3, Funny)

rob1980 (941751) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730838)

His lines are all going to be:

1) Dammit!
2) We are running out of time!
3) Dammit, we are running out of time!
4) DAMMIT!

I'd be worried if it is like the books (2, Funny)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730917)

If making this movie is anything like the books, I would half expect the recording studio to explode after the actors leave the building.

It drove me nuts in Margaret Weiss' books. Every friggen place blows up the instant the heroes leave. Even if they win it blows up. "Yahoo, we just defeated the 'more baddest creature yet', for good measure, lets set it on fire, taking out everything in a 30 mile radius as well. Also, I peed in the well. Before we go, lets stab this guy trying to build a road."

Don't use the latrine, it is rigged with C-4. Maybe thats why they needed Jack Bauer?

I for one... (0, Troll)

modi123 (750470) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730927)

... will be the first to welcome our masked Dragon Over(high) Lords...

TSR/WoTC movies (1)

dredson (620914) | more than 8 years ago | (#15730954)

This opens the gates for a more D&D movies Dark Elf Trilogy [wikipedia.org] or IceWind Dale [wikipedia.org] movie. Or Magic The Gathering [wikipedia.org] movies would be cool, too.

Re:TSR/WoTC movies (1)

bateleur (814657) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731208)

Magic the Gathering is hardly ready to be a movie given that it has such trouble even generating readable novels. The novels went through a brief period of being somewhat less dreadful, but unfortunately this translated predictably badly across to the actual card game.

Riftwar Saga anyone? (1)

Brix Braxton (676594) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731056)

Dragonlance is a big deal - can't wait to see it but I was personally hoping for some Raymond E. Feist action coming to the big screen. Ever since Dragon Heart came out I'd been thinking that it was now possible to bring all of these great books to the screen - hopefully this opens more doors (just like lord of the rings did).

Re:Riftwar Saga anyone? (1)

shawn_f (620177) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731109)

I agree! Raymond Feist books will make for a great series of movies...

Re:Riftwar Saga anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15731585)

I'm sure there will be a flood of such book to big screen conversions - especially in the light of Harry Potter and LotR. Not only did these movies show that there is an interest in fantasy settings, but they proved that, finally, fantasy movies could be brought to the big screen and done justice in terms of settings and effects.

My only fear is that, in the gold rush, there is the danger of classics being plundered and awful cash-in movies being made. At least Jackson was sympathetic to his source material (I don't agree with a lot of what he did, but I can at least see that he cared about what he was doing and I can respect that). It will only take a handful of flops to undo all the good work that's been done so far.

Somewhat off-topic - Dragonlance video games (1)

dorbabil (969458) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731076)

One of the first CRPGs I ever played was a Dragonlance game. I recognise all of these names, but I can't remember what the name of the game was. I remember that the goal of the game was to take your paltry band of adventurers (including Tanis, Goldmoon, and so forth), make your way down this hexagonal grid, finding items and rescuing refugees along the way, and then fight your way through a mountain cave that was only open certain times during the day. Does anyone have any idea what the name of the game was?

Re:Somewhat off-topic - Dragonlance video games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15731898)

champions of krynn, maybe? followed by death knights of krynn, and can't remember the last one.. ?? of krynn....

Re:Somewhat off-topic - Dragonlance video games (1)

bensode (203634) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731989)

I believe you are looking for the "Krynn" series from SSI. Loved those games on my Commodore 64 ...

http://www.mobygames.com/game_group/sheet/gameGrou pId,209/ [mobygames.com]

Re:Somewhat off-topic - Dragonlance video games (1)

dorbabil (969458) | more than 8 years ago | (#15732129)

Actually, I did play those, but they aren't what I'm thinking of. The Krynn games, if I recall correctly, played like kind of crude version of modern AD&D (i.e. Baldur's Gate) games. I don't really remember how the overworld worked, but wandering around in towns and dungeons were done in first person, and encounters were an isometric tactical battle. The game I'm thinking of had a hexagonal grid for an overworld, and the encounters and dungeons were all managed by the same isometric tactical method (I think it may have been "real time", and not turn based like the Krynn games). One thing that I really remember is that if you completed the final dungeon, which involved defeating the final boss and exciting the room behind him, you'd get a score tallied up from how many of the refugees you saved and how many of your hereos had survived (as well as the equipment and experience levels they had at endgame). I think it was easy to "cheat" and just rush to the end, but the final boss was very difficult, and even if you beat him (which could be done, IIRC, by just sending all your mages to kamakazi with fireball spells), your score would probably suck because you didn't save anyone.

Re:Somewhat off-topic - Dragonlance video games (1)

Sizzlean (820489) | more than 8 years ago | (#15732351)

I believe it was Heroes of the Lance. Sort of like Hillsfar in that it was in the same world but used significantly different mechanics than the "gold box" games. IIRC it was in a silver box.

Re:Somewhat off-topic - Dragonlance video games (1)

orielbean (936271) | more than 8 years ago | (#15732264)

Dark Queen of Krynn, and there were 2 other games as well, whose names escape me. Look up Gold Box series for those old TSR games. Those were fantastic, in the same engine as Pool of Radiance.

He's not new to animation... (1)

csoto (220540) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731083)

he played Littlefoot's daddy in The Land Before Time X. Don't ask me how I know...

Re:He's not new to animation... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15731493)

Ah, a classic...

Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15731378)

I've been wanting this movie to come out for quite some time, and now they get some cheap hack [imdb.com] to direct it. So, let me guess. I'm supposed to be thrilled that the guy who directed such winners as "The Secret Files of the SpyDogs" [imdb.com] and "The Real Ghost Busters" [imdb.com] gets to screw around with one of the most influential books of my childhood?

Keifer. That'll do. (1)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | more than 8 years ago | (#15731576)

David: Now you know what we are, now you know what you are. You'll never grow old, Michael, and you'll never die. But you must feed! , the creepy doctor from Dark City, and the son of Donald Sutherland. I think his voice will match.

Oh boy. (1)

Fantastic Lad (198284) | more than 8 years ago | (#15732031)

I remember reading the first book when I was fifteen. It had a nice cover and the story was engaging enough. Nothing spectacular, but worth the cover price I suppose.

I tried reading the next one in the series, but I just sort of stopped caring about half way through. "The writers actually recorded their own play sessions? Really? No, seriously. --They write these books from their game notes? Really? You're joking, right?"

I just couldn't get past this aspect, and I don't know if my response was entirely fair. Just because my D&D games happened to be dumb didn't mean that a group-created novel would necessarily stink. --And it didn't stink. It just wasn't particularly brilliant. There were no big ideas or grand vision to be found in the Dragonlance series. --Though I'm told that as the books progress, the story becomes filled with Mormon imagery to reflect the writer's religious bias, but that's hardly a selling point. Otherwise, it's just a fun swords and sorcery yarn. Innocent Popcorn; good hearted but ultimately meaningless. Kind of like Salt Lake City.

Whatever the case, I just couldn't manage to get into the series. --Although writing a book series based on a D&D game was also perhaps one of the most clever marketing tactics I've seen in publishing. I mean, they still keep those books in print after all these years! Not many pulp fantasy novels can make that claim.


-FL

I Can See It Now (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 8 years ago | (#15732135)

Caramon: There is a big dragon coming towards us!
Raistlin: Caramon, you and Sturm get the sword protocols! I will open a socket to the magic protocols while Tanis handles the arrow protocols!
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