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UK Street Crime Rise Blamed on iPods

timothy posted about 8 years ago | from the disarmed-populace-has-nothing-to-do-with-it dept.

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CNET reports that the British Government today attributed the country's 22% rise in street crime to iPod robberies. This has hit CNET close to home. Guy Cocker, a CNET (Gamespot) journalist based in London, was mugged last week. The muggers held 'a semi-automatic weapon to the back of Cocker's head and told him, "we're taking all your stuff"'. CNET's solution to the problem is suggestions on how to conceal your iPod from attackers. These include 'The gaffer tape method,' 'The Coke can method,' and 'The Christopher Walken method.'

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799 comments

Thank god in a contry (5, Insightful)

JamesP (688957) | about 8 years ago | (#15748874)

wthout those baaad baaad guns this would have never happened!

Oh wait...

Re:Thank god in a contry (4, Informative)

Steve Cox (207680) | about 8 years ago | (#15748968)

In this particular case he didn't actually see a gun, he only thought it felt like a gun. Presumably there wasn't one involved because only a complete loon would chase after the muggers.

The number of guns (and related crime) in the UK is steadily increasing year on year, however thankfully the numbers are still small. The lack of guns in the UK might go some way to explaining the fact that 'only' (ie still far too many) 46 gun related murders occured last year (that figure comes from the same report) in the whole of the UK.

Steve.

share the risk (1)

mindserfer (209937) | about 8 years ago | (#15748875)

ipod insurance.
my pattent. ;P

Oh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748877)

iGod!!

Rights? What Rights? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748883)

What a shame the UK disarmed their citizenry... In the US I'd be more concerned on how to conceal my M1911 not my iPOD.

Re:Rights? What Rights? (1)

tcr (39109) | about 8 years ago | (#15748945)

Really?

I live in London, and I can't remember hearing about anyone being shot for their iPod.

You hear plenty about gun crime, though...

All kids pretending they're bloody American 'ganstas' or whatever.

a light touch with the clue stick (2, Insightful)

ElephanTS (624421) | about 8 years ago | (#15748975)

What a shame the UK disarmed their citizenry

Point 1: We were never armed to start with - this is largely an American idea "the right to bear arms" and is not seen in other parts of the world as a good thing.

Point 2: Technically we are subjects not citizens. (We have a monarch as head of state not a president)

Re:a light touch with the clue stick (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748993)

Point 2: Technically we are subjects not citizens. (We have a monarch as head of state not a president)

Try looking on your passport sometime. You are a citizen. The "we're not citizens" line is just something the Yanks tend to say to make them feel superior and has no basis in fact. It used to be true decades ago, but it's an extremely rare for somebody to be a British subject these days (if I remember correctly, you have to be born in a Commonwealth country outside of the UK in a particular decade with a particular lineage).

Re:Rights? What Rights? (1)

kahei (466208) | about 8 years ago | (#15749004)


Oh, the citizenry disarmed themselves.

Walken method (1)

MECC (8478) | about 8 years ago | (#15748887)

Needs more bell...

Oh I see (3, Insightful)

Carthag (643047) | about 8 years ago | (#15748889)

So it's our jobs' fault for giving us money that can be stolen?

The fault of car makers that cars get stolen?

I'm a bit confused.

Re:Oh I see (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748916)

> So it's our jobs' fault for giving us money that can be stolen?

No, no! I't Jobs's, Steve Job's, fault for giving us iPods.

Re:Oh I see (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | about 8 years ago | (#15748976)

I'm not too surprised. I would not be surprised if DeWalt gets charged with murder if a customer used the weapons they sold, previously called a circular saw, to dismember people while they bleed to death. I mean, if we're too pansy to prosecute the people that performed the action, then someone is going to look elsewhere for the blame.

Re:Oh I see (1)

edusmoreira (978831) | about 8 years ago | (#15749026)

Sure. CNET also reported that the country's rise in adultery is due to the increasing sales of state-of-the-art warm and cozy sofas. Give me a break.

Re:Oh I see (1)

arivanov (12034) | about 8 years ago | (#15749039)

You seem to misunderstand Antonio Bliar's PR droid Pinoccio No 34678 talk.

If a given news cannot be buried on a good day to bury bad news, the item should be polished in a manner in which there is no fault of the government. If anyone is at fault it is either paedophiles, or terrorists, the tories from whom they have inherited the rule or the bourgeois consumer (usually in this particular order).

In this case it is the bourgeois consumer which should not have expensive gadgets which provoke thugs to rob him or her.

But surely it is no fault of Bliar government. Ever.

Blaming the iPod? (5, Insightful)

blcamp (211756) | about 8 years ago | (#15748891)


Really, now... is this the fault of the iPod and not the punk-ass thugs doing this crap?

Re:Blaming the iPod? (1)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | about 8 years ago | (#15748944)

It's not so much the fault of the iPod, but rather the iPod's distinctive white headphones. If you're walking around with black headphones then chances are that you haven't got an iPod but rather some poor quality* DAP which isn't worth trying to steal.

Either that or you're listening to music on your phone and then you'd get mugged for that anyway...

* Personally I use an iRiver with Rockbox

Simple solution (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748892)

Replace the earplugs with ones with black cables.

Re:Simple solution (1)

jonv (2423) | about 8 years ago | (#15748900)

or buy an iRiver :)

Re:Simple solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748960)

Or you could stay away from that clunky, mis-engineered piece of garbage, and stick with a quality music player.

Re:Simple solution (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15749008)

Ah, an inciteful comment (spelling deliberate).

The 'phones iRiver use are better quality than the buds used on iPods and the iRiver works with Linux and OGG (most versions, anyway: I think the H10 series cannot).

So why is the iRiver a piece of garbage?

Attractiveness or visibility? (4, Interesting)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | about 8 years ago | (#15749007)

Now there's an interesting question there - is the rise in iPod thefts due to the fact that iPods, associated with white earbuds, are more popular and hence worth stealing? Or is it simply because the white earbuds are more visible at night, thus making their owner a more obvious target?

Magnets?? (5, Interesting)

Alicat1194 (970019) | about 8 years ago | (#15748893)

From TFA The Coke can method Get a Coke can, drink the contents, rinse out the can. Carefully cut the lid section off the can. Superglue a small magnet to the inside of the upper lip of the can so that it's flush with the open top of the can.

a) Aluminium isn't magnetic, it wouldn't hold the can closed

b) Is it really that good an idea to have a magnet that close to your ipod?

Re:Magnets?? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 8 years ago | (#15748919)

Is it really that good an idea to have a magnet that close to your ipod?

Only if the secret storage mechanism inside is mag tape.

Re:Magnets?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748922)

Coke cans are made of steel

the "Christopher Walken" method? (5, Funny)

Paperghost (942699) | about 8 years ago | (#15748894)

I was hoping it'd show you how to dance like a maniac then fly off into the sky :(

Re:the "Christopher Walken" method? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 8 years ago | (#15748932)

I was hoping it'd show you how to dance like a maniac then fly off into the sky :(

It stinks.

The Solution (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748895)

Pass Concealed Carry Laws. If muggers knew they could get a cap in their ass, they'd think twice before committing these dastardly deeds.

This is must be why this story is about crimes in the UK and no in the US.

Re:The Solution (2, Informative)

Null537 (772236) | about 8 years ago | (#15748951)

Yeah, but the story in the US would be titled something like "City crime rate increasing for 10th straight year; homicide biggest crime increase"

Re:The Solution (2, Informative)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | about 8 years ago | (#15748965)

If muggers knew they could get a cap in their ass, they'd think twice before committing these dastardly deeds.

No they wouldn't. You see, over here (UK) we have a bill called the Human Rights Act. What it boils down to is that if you commit a crime then you can avoid jail because it's dangerous and infringes on your Human Rights.

This also means that you could sue the police for shooting you.

Re:The Solution (1, Insightful)

Luscious868 (679143) | about 8 years ago | (#15748981)

Pass Concealed Carry Laws. If muggers knew they could get a cap in their ass, they'd think twice before committing these dastardly deeds.

Yeah, because as a resident of Michigan, that has allows allowing you to carry concealed weapons, crime rates in cities like Detroit and Flint have dropped so much since those laws passed and citizens started carrying concealed weapons ... oh wait [freep.com] ... (and this is just one example I found quickly while scanning one of the websites of a local newspaper)

Re:The Solution (1)

Faluzeer (583626) | about 8 years ago | (#15749044)

Hmmm

So mugging NEVER happens in those states that allow concealed carrying? The reporter from CNET supposedly had a gun placed to the back of his head, how would having a concealed gun help in that situation? Would the reported have tried to go for his gun during or after the mugging? If so then there is the chance that the crime escalates to murder...

The story is on /. because some idiot stated that the rise in reported street crime was due to more people carrying mobile phones and ipods...personally I put the blame on the UK's politicians, they have :
1. Not sufficiently increased the capacity of prisons / remand centres (possibly due to political embarrassment)
2. Changed sentencing guidelines so that criminals are released earlier from the overcrowded prisions / youth remand centres.
3. Increased the amount of paperwork done by police officers so that they spend more time doing the associated admin work than they do trying to prevent crime.

Re:The Solution (4, Insightful)

Bogtha (906264) | about 8 years ago | (#15749046)

This is must be why this story is about crimes in the UK and no in the US.

Yeah, because letting people run around with guns really solved the USA's violent crime problem, didn't it?

Here's a thought (5, Insightful)

DrXym (126579) | about 8 years ago | (#15748896)

How about walking around without listening to music the whole time?

Oh, what a wonderful idea. (1)

Shivetya (243324) | about 8 years ago | (#15749015)

Let others dicate how you spend your time. After all your enjoyment should not come at the expense of some loser whose only method to have stuff is to take from others.

Yup, whats next? Let the government take my rights too? Better yet, let the government take my gun and my iPod and give it to this deserving soul who lost life's lottery?

I'd just wait for the enema sized Ipod (1)

technoextreme (885694) | about 8 years ago | (#15748897)

Then no one would want to steal them anymore. Also, does anyone find it mildly amusing that the example they give of an Ipod theft involves a cellphone and not an Ipod.

Re:I'd just wait for the enema sized Ipod (1)

iamthemoog (410374) | about 8 years ago | (#15748996)

According to some .cx websites, the current ipod already *is* enema sized...

Re:I'd just wait for the enema sized Ipod (1)

HaloZero (610207) | about 8 years ago | (#15749014)

Right, but because it's *gasp* iTunes Enabled, it's suddenly an iPod.

22%?? (4, Insightful)

Proud like a god (656928) | about 8 years ago | (#15748903)

98,204 - 90,747 = 7,457 More

7,457 / 90,747 = 8.2% Rise from the original level

22%? WTF?

Re:22%?? (4, Funny)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 8 years ago | (#15748961)

They must have stolen his calculator too.

Re:22%?? (1)

Gorath99 (746654) | about 8 years ago | (#15749019)

CNET is confusing different statistics.

This BBC link [bbc.co.uk] is more informative. The official figures are up 8%, but the British Crime Survey suggests it's actually 22%.

Defeating the object of an iPod? (3, Insightful)

fuyu-no-neko (839858) | about 8 years ago | (#15748904)

As far as I can tell, a big part of the reason for having an iPod is meant to be because it looks stylish. Basically, the whole point is for it to be seen. If you're going to start trying to disguise your iPod, wouldn't it be a better option to just get a cheaper and/or better music player from another company?

Re:Defeating the object of an iPod? (1)

Scuff (59882) | about 8 years ago | (#15749037)

The interface on an ipod is a lot better than other MP3 players. I've had a few other players before, and it's easier and faster to upload songs and playlists to an ipod, and much quicker to search through a long list of music and find what you want. The stock headphones needed to go, they hurt my ears, but that was simple enough. My ipod also has longer battery life than the rio and philips players i've had, but that's probably just because it's newer. as far as I know, there are plenty of cheaper mp3 players, but none that are better.

So who is to blame (2, Insightful)

Chrisq (894406) | about 8 years ago | (#15748906)

According to the article, the cause of street crime is 1) High tech gadgets like Ipods and phones. 2) Social conditions leading to poverty. shouldn't the criminals figure in these somewhere?

Re:So who is to blame (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748964)

How about the blacks who've infested London and whose only skillset is mugging and drug dealing.

Re:So who is to blame (1)

vidarh (309115) | about 8 years ago | (#15748972)

They do: Point #2.

Street crime is tightly tied to poverty

Re:So who is to blame (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 8 years ago | (#15749013)

It's part of the job(less) description.
If you're on welfare, you have to steal.

Re:So who is to blame (1)

vadim_t (324782) | about 8 years ago | (#15748992)

Aha, another example of this interesting "american logic" (haven't seen it much anywhere else). Some people seem to have the bizarre idea that things exist by themselves in some sort of vaccuum with no causes. As in, terrorists don't have reasons, they're just evil. Criminals all appear out of nowhere, and so on. It's almost as if all the things that were bad in the world were just spawned magically by Satan, and the one solution to all of those problems is to kill/bomb/imprison the perpetrator.

You're saying here, "Criminals are the cause of street crime". And does that say anything useful at all? Crime, by definition is committed by a criminal. Saying "crime is caused by criminals" is about as useful as saying "fishing is caused by fishermen". Well, duh.

Now, if you want to erradicate crime, you can do it in several ways. The "american logic" way is to put the ones that do it into prison, and do nothing else after that. The intelligent way is to take a look at the causes: Why are these undesirable actions being commited? How many of the criminals do it because they're just jerks, and how many because that's what they resort to in order to eat? What are the causes leading to the crime, and is there anything we can do to try to prevent it from happening in the first place?

Weapon? (5, Insightful)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 8 years ago | (#15748907)

Summary:

The muggers held 'a semi-automatic weapon to the back of Cocker's head

TFA:

His assailants held what felt like a semi-automatic weapon to the back of Cocker's head

For all I know an opened glass coke bottle feels exactly like a semi-automatic weapon when it is pressed into the back of a persons head. The words felt like make all the difference.

Re:Weapon? (1)

RockModeNick (617483) | about 8 years ago | (#15748949)

It's VERY hard to get a handgun into that country, I'm 9/10 sure it wasn't real. A kids cap gun feels like a semiautomatic handgun if a scary street prerson shoves you backwards against a wall and puts in to your head without you seeing.

Re:Weapon? (1)

paedobear (808689) | about 8 years ago | (#15748953)

Given how rare guns are in the UK, you'd assume a criminal with one would be out there commiting properly profitable crimes.

Re:Weapon? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748954)

Exactly. Anal/oral sex with a man feels exactly the same as with a woman.

Re:Weapon? (2, Insightful)

aallmighty (839195) | about 8 years ago | (#15748991)

In what way did it feel semi-automatic???

Re:Weapon? (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 8 years ago | (#15749038)

Are you going to stand there and gamble whether it's a real gun or not that's being pressed against the back of your head. I'd probably just trust the robber's words instead of taking the 50/50 chance of dying.

a Londoner writes ... (4, Insightful)

ElephanTS (624421) | about 8 years ago | (#15749060)

As a Londoner I'm pretty sure there was no gun involved. This guy was the victim of the classic 'banana in the small of the back' scam as portrayed in so many movies. It can be scary if the guy looks mad enough. Happened to me once, 5 years ago and I never saw the gun - just a 6'4 crackhead. In the end I just walked away with half of me just waiting to be shot in the back. It didn't happen fortunately.

As someone else said, if you've got a real gun in London you're not jacking iPods with it - you're doing something a little larger in scope. However, I'm not sure that this isn't changing with some younger people - gun crime is certainly increasing.

I have a solution (2, Funny)

Bin Naden (910327) | about 8 years ago | (#15748910)

Just don't wear those white earbuds and I probably ... I mean, they probably won't notice that you have iPods.

Walkman ? (1)

jonv (2423) | about 8 years ago | (#15748912)

Did this happen with the Sony Walkman in the 80s ? On the daily commute it seems everyone has an iPod - was it the same with the Walkman ?

Re:Walkman ? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 8 years ago | (#15748940)

was it the same with the Walkman ?

Perhaps not walking around. The walkman wasn't that portable. But a lot of people used them in the car or at home.

Re:Walkman ? (1)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | about 8 years ago | (#15749041)

It was a slight issue in the early days of Walkmen, when they were still a premium item. Soon enough, the price fell and they weren't an automatic "OMG RICH PERSON GADGET!" anymore. Of course, it helped that people had had small cheap transistor radios for decades, so seeing just the headphones on someone didn't guarantee they were connected to a $100 Walkman instead of a $10 radio. It was the same again with the advent of the Discman, but again if you shoved it in an inside pocket your $100 Discman was indistinguishable from a $20 Walkman. The same has happened with cellphones, watches, and any other small, expensive, widespread gadget that lots of people have, and most of the remaining population want. After iPods, it'll be something else.

How About the "Stick a Gun in Their Face" Method? (0, Troll)

aquatone282 (905179) | about 8 years ago | (#15748913)

Oh, this is the UK, where only criminals have firearms.

My bad.

Re:How About the "Stick a Gun in Their Face" Metho (4, Insightful)

vidarh (309115) | about 8 years ago | (#15748956)

Yes, it is the UK, where practically noone ever get hurt by guns. Go read the WHO's World report on violence and death [who.int] and compare the per capita firearms related violence in the UK compared to the US.

(Before anyone turns this into a matter of gun control alone, note that countries like Switzerland and Norway, with HUGE amounts of weapons in private ownership, including AG-3's in about 1/3'd of homes in Norway, have firearms related violence rates not much different from the UK - it's much more complicated than gun control or not)

Re:How About the "Stick a Gun in Their Face" Metho (2, Insightful)

RockModeNick (617483) | about 8 years ago | (#15748987)

I think gun control is an all or nothing deal.. either you do it perfectly, and it reduces crime, or you dont' do it, and upstanding citizens being able to shoot back reduces crime... the US half-ass approch is what doesn't work.

Re:How About the "Stick a Gun in Their Face" Metho (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15749061)

The issue is really how the society feels about violence.

In a society where violence is abhorred, for instance a Buddhist one, you need do little more than wave a fist at someone to have your way by force.

In a society where violence is admired, such as Columbia, the US, Israel or Afghanistan, the slightest hint of an insult will bring automatic fire and RPG rounds in. Collateral damage makes things even more fun, so long as all the deaths are of sub-humans such as Lebanese women and children.

We need to question why violence is admired in some societies. For the Israelis, of course, it's a matter of religion. But why do the US like murdering people?

Re:How About the "Stick a Gun in Their Face" Metho (1)

rbarreira (836272) | about 8 years ago | (#15748983)

Yeah, let's all fight fire with fire. Everyone knows it works!

Headphones (1)

laursen (36210) | about 8 years ago | (#15748914)

'The gaffer tape method,' 'The Coke can method,' and 'The Christopher Walken method.'
changing the very destinctive white headphones is probably the best idea imho.

Re:Headphones (1)

enigma9 (812497) | about 8 years ago | (#15749030)

If you use the Christopher Walken method, then the headphones won't be white anymore.

The best solution could be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748918)

...give an iPod to everyone, so none would rob it.

Mr. Jobs won't be pissed off, I guess.

Gun Control Works! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748921)

Seeing as how guns are banned there how could this have happened? Oh yea... gun control doesn't work. Moreover for the cops. "Halt! Or I shall be forced to say Halt again!"

Bloody Bad Math! (1)

woolio (927141) | about 8 years ago | (#15748925)

robberies across the UK have risen 22 per cent in the last year, from 90,747 to 98,204

Wow... Some how a increase 7457 robberies over the previous year's 90747 total is 22 percent???

I guess the muggers have been stealing people's math skills too....

[For the numerically challenged, the stated figures represent less than a 10% increase, not a 22% increase.]

Re:Bloody Bad Math! (3, Informative)

Proud like a god (656928) | about 8 years ago | (#15748941)

I posted the fact that it's about 8% above, and found a BBC article [bbc.co.uk] that explains it's a 22% rise in robberies to 311,000, involving a 10% rise in gunpoint robberies and with street robberies and muggings jumping by 8%.

Re:Bloody Bad Math! (1)

rbannon (512814) | about 8 years ago | (#15748959)

8.2%

This guy is amazing (3, Insightful)

kripkenstein (913150) | about 8 years ago | (#15748926)

TFA misses out on the interesting bit of the article:

"His assailants held what felt like a semi-automatic weapon to the back of Cocker's head"

Wow, he can differentiate a semi-automatic from a nonautomatic from an automatic, just based on how it presses against the back of his head.

Note how the Slashdot summary changes things:

"The muggers held 'a semi-automatic weapon to the back of Cocker's head"

Re:This guy is amazing (1)

woolio (927141) | about 8 years ago | (#15748938)

Indeed.

I bet he was robbed with a toy gun.

Re:This guy is amazing (1)

tweek (18111) | about 8 years ago | (#15749029)

It must have been a toy gun since personal firearms are illegal in the UK.

Re:This guy is amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15749031)

or maybe a candybar

Don't show you've got an iPod (1)

Breetai (14095) | about 8 years ago | (#15748927)

Why must everybody show off they're wearing an iPod? The white earbuds are a dead giveaway. Every mugger in the street will know you've got expensive gadgets on you. Just buy an extra headphone or other color earbuds and you wil stand stand out a lot less.

I've got an cowon Iaudio 5 which also uses white earbuds to imitate the iPod look. I'm not all too happy about that. If I were walking in a big city and ran the risk of being mugged, I would problably get myself some other earphones. Even if it were to not look like a simple iPod user.

Raises the question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748929)

If the "semi-automatic weapon" was pointed at the back of his head, how did he know it was a semi-automatic weapon?

I live in a large UK city, I've been in extremely dodgy circles in my time, and the only time I've seen a gun is on television or when I've been abroad.

Not that I don't believe there's gun crime in the UK, but I think the chances of him being mugged by somebody with a semi is far, far smaller than him just exaggerating for a good story.

Re:Raises the question (1)

timothy (36799) | about 8 years ago | (#15749002)

I've been mugged at gunpoint only once ... and it was with a semiauto. The feel of it against one's neck is different from that of a revolver, at least if it's a semi with the (conventional) large flat surface at the naughty end of the barrel; some (such as any autopistol with a threaded barrel, such as Glocks for the Scandivian market) wouldn't have that of course, but if someone pushes a 1911- or Hi-Power-style pistol into your neck, I think you'd notice the feel of it.

timothy

Easy solution (1)

cyrax256 (845338) | about 8 years ago | (#15748930)

Buy... the new iPod Invisa! [youtube.com]

Built-in weapon (1)

fusto99 (939313) | about 8 years ago | (#15748962)

This just in: Apple is coming out with a new ipod with a hidden switch blade built in. Oh wait, now you can't take your ipod on a plane with you.

This surprises people? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15748967)

Let me see if I've got this straight.

* People are walking around with expensive items clearly visible on their person.
* Other people are coming up to these people and stealing said items.

Surely these people wouldn't walk around with hundreds of pounds of cash clearly visible on their person; why would they think that walking around with expensive electronics would be any different?

Fucking publicity (1)

rbarreira (836272) | about 8 years ago | (#15748971)

The Coke can method
Get a Coke can, drink the contents, rinse out the can. Carefully cut the lid section off the can. Superglue a small magnet to the inside of the upper lip of the can so that it's flush with the open top of the can. Place the iPod inside and put the lid on the can. If you've cut the can correctly, the magnet should hold the lid tightly shut. Unless your mugger is exceptionally thirsty, they're unlikely to steal your Coke. Anti-mugger rating: 9/10

Oh too bad, I was going to do this but the only drink I drink from cans is beer, not coke...

(damn publicity)

Real cause? (1)

aadvancedGIR (959466) | about 8 years ago | (#15748978)

I can't help thinking it may be linked to this massive effort in fighting terrorism. How can you put so many policemen on that and still have enough in the street really protecting the people?

It'll turn out to be bogus (2, Interesting)

igb (28052) | about 8 years ago | (#15748998)

just as the `mobile phone theft' epidemic was bogus. Reports of the theft of phones rose. But thefts of phones as reported via the British Crime Survey (which interviews a large number of people and asks them what crimes they've experienced) showed essentially no such rise. Conclusion? People who had lost their phone (often not insured, and if you're a child, liable to piss off your parents) or wanted a new one (clearly not insured) were reporting them stolen. Result? A massive rise in reported crime. But when you interview people in a survey, who at that point have no incentive to over-report, the `crime' goes away. It's like the purported rate of burglary (as seen through reported crime) doesn't match the surveyed results: because the police are unlikely to turn up and do a forensic job over the tidy break in that did no damage and just took some consumer durables, it's safe to report even if it didn't happen. Insurance fraud is the crime that even the middle-classes think is victimless.

ian

The one place... (4, Funny)

countach (534280) | about 8 years ago | (#15749003)

"he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide somethin'"

I give up. Where??

Re:The one place... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15749024)

Up his ass.

Like blaming the victim... (4, Insightful)

SpiralSpirit (874918) | about 8 years ago | (#15749018)

Do you blame car thefts on the awesomeness of a car? How about rape on the attractiveness of the victim? Why then would you blame ipods for getting stolen? Blame the criminals.

Ipod ppffft (5, Funny)

Soupy69 (988115) | about 8 years ago | (#15749021)

See in Scotland we dont have Ipods yet, but ukele and banjo crime has gone through the roof

The Other Christopher Walken method (1, Troll)

Mayhem178 (920970) | about 8 years ago | (#15749022)

Just take your Weapon of Choice along with you when you're walking around flashing your iPod to everyone acting like a pompous jackass.

TFA is missing the point. (1)

stsp (979375) | about 8 years ago | (#15749025)

What can you do to foil the 22 per cent rise in people out to steal your iPod?
What can be done for the 22 per cent so they do not even want to think about mugging anybody, but do something worthwhile instead?
Besides, if the guy actually had got shot in the head, would this still be about the iPod?

Blaming the iPods is easier than blaming the pols (2, Insightful)

Brian Stretch (5304) | about 8 years ago | (#15749028)

Is all this crime the result of shiny inanimate objects or really stupid policies [city-journal.org] ?

One favorite paragraph:
It is not difficult to guess the reason for the senior policeman's anger. My wife had forced his men to record a crime that they had no intention whatever of even trying to solve (though, with due expedition, it was eminently soluble), and this record in turn meant the introduction of an unwanted breath of reality into the bogus statistics, the manufacture of which is now every British senior policeman's principal task--with the sole exception of enforcing the dictates of political correctness, thereby to head off the criticism levied at them for many decades by the liberal Left--not always without an element of justification. Proving their purity of heart is now more important to them than securing the safety of our streets: and thus Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

Also, nice to see that gun control laws work the way we Second Amendment supporters said they would.

Other Figures from the same survey (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15749033)

The same survey also shows that murders are down 12% at 765, while attempted murders are up 25% at 922. So while the overall level murderous activity has gone up, people are getting worse at it.

iPod (1)

toxicity69 (925460) | about 8 years ago | (#15749035)

Yeah I think its pretty obvious that the places where you could get your iPod jacked probably aren't the places you should be listening to music. If you are walking around London, for example, or any other city for that matter, you need to listen for traffic. Trains or planes are generally the best situation to use an iPod in when you are moving. Having said that though the main problem with the iPods is the distinctive white earphones + cable. If I see those I know that person has an iPod whether I can see it or not. Crime is so bad in my area of the UK I generally only leave the house with a credit card (which can be cancelled) and a lighter. (I'm a smoker)

Summary of recomendations (5, Funny)

DigitAl56K (805623) | about 8 years ago | (#15749042)

Here are some of the recomendations from TFA:

  1. Don't wear earbuds, headphones, or use any attachment that might make sound incase a mugger in close proximity detects it
  2. Avoid dressing in black and dancing like a zombie in public [youtube.com]
  3. Be prepared to one-up your semi-automatic carrying attacker [youtube.com] at all times
  4. Wear not one, but an array of bullet proof iPods [businessweek.com] to form a bullet proof iPod vest
  5. Ensure that, for your own safety, your government is monitoring your phone calls. In a post-911 world we must all take additional steps to ensure the iTerrorist threat is neutralized

If, after following all of the above guidelines, your iPod should happen to be stolen, contact the RIAA as quickly as possible and inform them of all the illegal music you have stored on it, then wait for them to subpeona your assailiant and recover your costs in an out of court settlement.

APPLE: iPod Gen 6 needs "iExplode" button .. (1)

torpor (458) | about 8 years ago | (#15749045)

.. where, if yours isn't the fingerprint its used to, it explodes a la 'robbery ink' packages they put in the cash drawers ..

Seriously? (1)

spykemail (983593) | about 8 years ago | (#15749051)

What are they going to blame for the crime wave next, fashionable clothing? Nice shoes? Just buy an ugly looking pair of headphones and put your iPod in your pocket on random, problem solved.

You forgot one... (1)

digitaldc (879047) | about 8 years ago | (#15749057)

...the iPod in Uranus method.

In France ..... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15749062)

In France they just passed some legislation that would force criminals to target non-iPod music players at a rate that is the same as iPod's themselves. They will also force Apple to make open their "design standards and guidelines" to allow other manufacturers to create music players that are just as desireable to theives as iPod's are.
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