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Microsoft Confirms New Music Player

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the it's-on dept.

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Udo Schmitz writes "It's official now. Reuters confirms the rumors that Microsoft wants to take on Apple's iPod and iTunes. From the article: 'Microsoft Corp. said on Friday it plans to release a new music and entertainment player and accompanying software under the "Zune" brand this year, in a belated attempt to challenge the dominance of Apple Computer Inc.'s iPod player ... Microsoft sources said Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft's entertainment and devices division, is working with J. Allard, vice president of its Xbox team, on the digital media player/software project.'"

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415 comments

Tacospeak (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760077)

No wireless. More buttons than an iPod. Lame.

Re:Tacospeak (1)

ShaneThePain (929627) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760114)

why is wireless important anyway? You still have to plug it in to charge it, might as well use a nice fast USB connection to move data.

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Re:Tacospeak (3, Insightful)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760240)

Networked sharing of devices between friends, the sharing of media (yes, even purchased media in a limited "Controlled Sharing" way according to the RIAA), direct shopping for music whenever you're in range of a hotspot.

That's some pretty nifty stuff!

Re:Tacospeak (1, Informative)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760116)

actually, they confirmed that there WILL be wireless. RTFA.

Re:Tacospeak (4, Informative)

snarlydwarf (532865) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760329)

Actually, you should RTFA.

Music industry sources told Reuters earlier this month that Microsoft disclosed plans to be in the market before Christmas with a media player that will allow users to download videos and music wirelessly.

That is the only place discussion of Wirelss capabilities is mentioned: it apparently is not mentioned in the release, instead Reuters says, "well last month, someone told us that Microsoft told them it had wireless..."

Hardly confirmed: it is reported as a rumor.

There is wireless (2, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760298)

Wireless is included. The really funny thing might be this is exactly the player Taco was wanting to see instead of the iPod.

Zune? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760078)

That sounds like an awfully cheesy attempt to play off of Creative's Zen brand.

Re:Zune? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760111)

"That sounds like an awfully cheesy attempt to play off of Creative's Zen brand."

Well seeing how this is likely a cheesy attempt to copy off of the iPod,
and how Vista is an awful, cheesy attempt to copy of OS X,
that's pretty well par for the course.

Re:Zune? (1)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760159)

A good name must be short and catchy. Eventually, with a market absolutely flooded with products and brands, things are gonna sound alike. There are only so many letters in the alphabet.

Re:Zune? (3, Funny)

ksheff (2406) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760160)

I wonder how much they spent to come up with that dorky name.

Re:Zune? (5, Funny)

Kenshin (43036) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760197)

To come up with a bad name, all you need to do is sit down and brainstorm for a few minutes.

To come up with a really horrbile name, you need to give a million dollars to a marketing firm.

Re:Zune?... How about the Mici? (1)

patrixmyth (167599) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760238)

I think they should have paid off the cereal people and called it the Mici (pronounced Mikey), as in Let's Buy a Mici, it plays anything! Just a thought, or some fraction thereof.

Re:Zune? (4, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760205)

They could of gone with MsPod.
or uPod
or PenisEnvy

Re:Zune? (0)

abirdman (557790) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760164)

You may be onto something there-- doesn't Creative hold the patent on the click wheel interface? Maybe Microsoft has entered into some alliance with them. (No, I didnt' RTFA so I don't know if the thing actually has a click wheel).

The one thing I know is that Microsoft is more than willing and able to take the barely tolerable DRM scheme in iTunes and escalate into a horrible, ugly mess that no one in their right mind would pay for. Yay.

Re:Zune? (1)

blindd0t (855876) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760199)

...and escalate into a horrible, ugly mess that no one in their right mind would pay for.

For a second there, I nearly forgot the context in which the above excerpt was being used and started to think you were talking about Windows.

Re:Zune? (1)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760319)

They should've called it the, "X-Pod."

Integration into WMP? (1)

ShaneThePain (929627) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760080)

I'll bet Windows Media Player becomes the next iTunes. Its already half way there right?

In any case, "Will it play .flac?"

I could buy one. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760088)

As long as it plays Vorbis, that is.

Re:I could buy one. (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760208)

. . .an integrated, seamless ecosystem for digital media. . .

Nee DRM monopoly.

KFG

In related news (5, Funny)

plover (150551) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760094)

In suspiciously coincidental news, Steve Jobs has been seen taking chair-throwing lessons.

Re:In related news (2, Interesting)

mysqlrocks (783488) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760149)

In suspiciously coincidental news, Steve Jobs has been seen taking chair-throwing lessons.

I'm sure Steve Jobs already has a plan to deal with this. It wouldn't surprise me if he tempted Microsoft into creating an iPod competitor and has some sort of elaborate trap waiting for them. The iPod helped make Apple relevant again, competing with it just gives it even more legitimacy. I'm sure Steve Jobs is pleased and we'll see some more chair throwing soon enough in Redmond when Apple unveils their master plan.

Re:In related news (3, Funny)

MassEnergySpaceTime (957330) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760340)

Oh, I know what Jobs has in mind: a sequel!

Person 1: Hi, I'm a Zune.
Person 2: And I'm an iPod...

Zune? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760097)

Zune is soon to be doomed.

Whoooo! (1)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760100)

May I be the first to say "Whooooo"? Anyway, the two factors for me in whether I'll buy it will be price and (video) content. As for the content porting rumors I've heard (supposedly Microsoft will provide free copies of any music purchased on itunes) I'll buy it either way - at worst I'll just burn/rip my collection. Yes, it's a hassle and reduces quality, but my non-audiophile ears won't hear it and if it's much cheaper or has much more content, it'll be worth it. Good to see some competition with potential here! My old ipod mini will turn two years old in March and my extended warranty will expire so I have a feeling I'll be looking for a replacement about a week later.

Might be a little longer than you think (1, Informative)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760272)

My old ipod mini will turn two years old in March and my extended warranty will expire so I have a feeling I'll be looking for a replacement about a week later.

My 1st gen iPod is still going strong, I'm not sure how many years later...

Also, the rumor was one of the things it includes is Wi-Fi so I'd take a careful look at form factor and battery life before you become convinced this is the arrival of the iPod killer that has been foretold.

Re:Might be a little longer than you think (0, Offtopic)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760302)

My mini crashed into warrantyland twice in the first year - once while I was hospitalised (for months). Here in Israel the warranty repair took 4-5 weeks. While in hospital I had no music at all.

Re:Might be a little longer than you think (1)

vk2 (753291) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760333)

Well - if you keep hitting your maids with that thing no wonder you need to return it twice. And whats up with the hospitalization did any maid return the favor? :-)

Re:Whoooo! (0, Troll)

PapaLeo (629172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760278)

So . . . how long you been working for Microsoft?

Re:Whoooo! (1)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760315)

I will evaluate the product based on its pros and cons relative to the competing product.

Recently I was hospitalised for four months. Three weeks into my stay, my ipod died. This had happened before and I quickly got used to just reading but in a hospital you're desperate for stuff to do. I got it back 6 weeks later from the warranty place. By that time, I'd just bought a damn laptop.

Nice name! (5, Funny)

blugu64 (633729) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760101)

"Zune"?

It just me or does Zune sound like some OSS dev tool?

Re:Nice name! (5, Funny)

plover (150551) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760109)

They needed a name that would fit on this box. [youtube.com]

Close, Amiga actually. (5, Informative)

fuego451 (958976) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760185)

From these [aros.org] guys.

And from their developement tool page:

Zune is an object-oriented GUI toolkit. It is nearly a clone (at both API and Look&Feel level) of MUI, a well-known Amiga shareware product by Stefan Stuntz. So MUI developers will feel at home here; others will discover the concepts and qualities that Zune shares with MUI.

I wonder how aros.org feels about this?

Re:Nice name! (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760283)

Bless you.

Iron Mike's new player? (4, Funny)

TommydCat (791543) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760104)

Zis makez me zooo eczstatic!

If this follows the suit of previous MS hardware it should be of good quality and support, but how smart is it to compete against those manufacturers supporting your Plays For Zure standard?

If someone comes up with wireless (WiFi or bluetooth) syncing as well as good sound quality (also meaning it'll support a [DRM-free] lossless codec), I'll be sold, but until then I'll hang onto my 3-year-old iRiver unless it breaks.

Re:Iron Mike's new player? (1)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760134)

RTFA, friend. It WILL have wireless.

Music industry sources told Reuters earlier this month that Microsoft disclosed plans to be in the market before Christmas with a media player that will allow users to download videos and music wirelessly.

Re:Iron Mike's new player? (1)

TommydCat (791543) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760172)

Read my own zentence again... the part after the "and" ;)

If the zound quality is good enough for critical listening and really iz coming to a ztore near me zune, I juzt may get one!

Re:Iron Mike's new player? (1)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760223)

I have it on good authority (common sense, knowing Microsoft) that it will SUPPORT lossless codecs... but I doubt they'll be selling that. On the other hand, as was recently proposed by an arstechnica journal, selling lossless versions of media for an extra 20-30 cents just might work, not to mention give Microsoft another line of publicity in the papers ("perfect quality" sounds good!) I saw the "and" but wasn't sure that that was the clincher ;)

Re:Iron Mike's new player? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760245)

Might do more than just work. I've only bought one record online in my life and it was because it was available as flac. Selling lossless versions of music would bring me into the market altogether.

er...........supposing it was drm-free :(

Re:Iron Mike's new player? (1)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760330)

The thing is, lossless music is a niche market. You want it, your friend wants it, DJ's want it. The average consumer is more than happy with good quality. Perfect isn't really needed by most (including me, though I certainly wouldn't MIND the option to pay more for perfect quality for songs I REALLY love).

Re:Iron Mike's new player? (5, Funny)

HTTP Error 403 403.9 (628865) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760323)

RTFA, friend. It WILL have wireless. Music industry sources told Reuters earlier this month that Microsoft disclosed plans to be in the market before Christmas with a media player that will allow users to download videos and music wirelessly.
You're absolutely correct - Microsoft always ships on-time.


Oh wait...

"In April 2002, Microsoft's Allchin announced that Longhorn (later renamed Vista) would ship in the second half of 2004."

Re:Iron Mike's new player? (1)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760351)

actually it was the word "wireless" that we were focusing on. This thread was about that... the line was a quote from the article that I forgot to give ""'s to.

Full Text (1)

droe42 (752882) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760106)

Here's the text. Other than it is "Zune" to be out, the article gives very little information about the player. I'm resisting making any jokes about XP being "Zune" to be out in the fall of '04.
SEATTLE, July 21 (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Friday it plans to release a new music and entertainment player and accompanying software under the "Zune" brand this year, in a belated attempt to challenge the dominance of Apple Computer Inc.'s (AAPL.O: Quote, Profile, Research) iPod player.
Microsoft confirmed the plans for an entertainment device and software in a statement after touting those products to record companies in recent months.
The world's largest software maker faces an uphill climb in closing the gap on Apple's iPod media player and iTunes Music Store, the runaway leaders in their respective areas.
The iPod holds more than half of the digital media player market, according to research company NPD, while iTunes accounts for over 70 percent of U.S. digital music sales.
"Creating a lifestyle device, Microsoft is clearly going to face a battle here," said Michael Gartenberg, research director at JupiterResearch. "It's going to be hard for them to create the same level of cachet that Apple has with the iPod."
Music industry sources told Reuters earlier this month that Microsoft disclosed plans to be in the market before Christmas with a media player that will allow users to download videos and music wirelessly.
It will also try to replicate Apple's simple approach to providing an integrated, seamless ecosystem for digital media is seen as the key to its success with iPod/iTunes, the sources said.
Microsoft sources said Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft's entertainment and devices division, is working with J. Allard, vice president of its Xbox team, on the digital media player/software project.
Allard's involvement is seen as significant because he is one of the few executives at Microsoft with experience in launching a consumer electronic device from scratch with the X-Box gaming system. His involvement suggests that gaming might be part of the media player.
Microsoft said it did not have a spokesperson available for comment.

Re:Full Text (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760187)

If you want to post an article text, do that as an anonymous coward, so you don't get karma bonus you don't deserve. You're not karma whoring, are you ?

Naming Convention (5, Interesting)

0xABADC0DA (867955) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760122)

In keeping with each system's naming conventions:

Apple:
iTunes

Microsoft:
My Zunes

In other words, Microsoft is even ripping off the name, but making it crappier.

Re:Naming Convention (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760179)

In other words, Microsoft is even ripping off the name, but making it crappier.

I was going to say "by 'it', do you mean the name, or the player", but zune realized that the obvious answer would be "both".

In other news, the first digital media player security exploit is also in development and is expected to be released to the wild real zune.

Re:Naming Convention (1)

ScottLindner (954299) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760186)

Good catch!

Re:Naming Convention (4, Insightful)

Kenshin (43036) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760226)

It goes even further than that:

Creative: Zen
Microsoft: Zune

Apple must be somewhat pleased, as I imagine this will take Creative's army of lawyer's focus off them.

Re:Naming Convention (1)

Bloke down the pub (861787) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760293)

LiveZunes, shurely? P.S. I advise anyone who has MSN 7.5 installed to stick with it.

Re:Naming Convention (1)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760336)

About the only thing Microsoft has going for them is their proper use of grammar,...

Won't budge iTunes market share one iota (1, Flamebait)

Dino (9081) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760132)

At least not on my Mac....

Why Not? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760230)

Because you're a fanboy?

What if it's better and cheaper?

Re:Won't budge iTunes market share one iota (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760233)

Most people I know that use iTunes use Windows...

Re:Won't budge iTunes market share one iota (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760324)

Ha ha, you paid a lot of money for a crappy Mac AND a crappy iPod.

Market Speak (5, Funny)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760133)

Lemme guess... consumer multimedia is Microsoft's house and they're not gonna let Apple take food off their plate.

Re:Market Speak (5, Insightful)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760270)

Well, yeah, pretty much. Microsoft has already largely staked their future on this. It's the cornerstone of Trusted Computing.

KFG

sing and dance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760137)

Who needs a music player?.
Everyone that meets should dance and sing instead just like in the Wizard from OZ.

Re:sing and dance (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760287)

Who needs a music player?.

That's "Lifestyle Device," Bub. Jeezum Crow, get with the program.

KFG

Re:sing and dance (1)

Bloke down the pub (861787) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760306)

Sir, I went out and bought a hat specifically so I could take it off to you.

Or (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760312)

Or like Cop Rock.

You still sure you want everyone that meets to dance and sing?

With a pedigree like this... (5, Funny)

faust2097 (137829) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760142)

"Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft's entertainment and devices division, is working with J. Allard, vice president of its Xbox team, on the digital media player/software project"

Does this mean they'll spend $6 billion on it and end up capturing 23% of the market? Because this team is really, really good at that.

Description (4, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760144)

Set your music in motion
With support for up to 15,000 songs and up to 150 hours of video on a 2.5-inch QVGA color display, iPod^H^H^H^H Zune gives you the ultimate music experience -- sight and sound -- in a lighter, thinner design. Available in classic white^H^H^H^H^H Blue and dramatic black^H^H^H^H^H Blue."

Re:Description (1)

Naomi_the_butterfly (707218) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760266)

Where's this from?

Re:Description (1)

Bloke down the pub (861787) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760317)

The sig, Rush. Rush, Canada.

Woohoo! (5, Funny)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760148)

Go Microsoft! Delivering 2003's technology today!

No, there's a world's first in this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760289)

Coming Zune: The world's first digital media player buffer overflow security exploit.

Re:Woohoo! (1)

sootman (158191) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760290)

BRB, gotta go invent 'Zunecasting.'

Re:Woohoo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760310)

No. It's "Microsoft. Delivering yesterday's solutions tomorrow!!".

Re:Woohoo! (1)

nutshell42 (557890) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760348)

Go Microsoft! Delivering 2003's technology really Zune!

DRM? (1)

u-235-sentinel (594077) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760152)

Any word whether they will remove/support DRM on their player?

Personally I don't care for Microsoft... period. I'd consider their solution only if it was without DRM and easier to use than the Creative labs MP3 players I currently use.

Re:DRM? (2, Insightful)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760209)

Do you mean whether it will require DRM? All the current portable media players will play non-DRM media in some format or another, so I don't really understand the issue. Even that other player that's a four letter word doesn't require DRM media to operate. If you are against the player even supporting DRM, then you'll probably have a problem with this one too because I doubt Microsoft would sell a player that doesn't support DRM at all, afterall, Plays For Sure is a Microsoft technology, and I doubt the larger rights holders (the __AAs) would licence their media without it.

Remember the video (2, Funny)

Bromskloss (750445) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760155)

...showing what one can expect the package [google.com] to look like. :-)

Where would Microsoft be today (5, Insightful)

imaginaryelf (862886) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760174)

If they didn't have Apple to emulate?

Odd (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760255)

Where would Microsoft be today...If they didn't have Apple to emulate?

That sounds somehow familiar to me... :-)

Re:Where would Microsoft be today (1)

TommydCat (791543) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760350)

Oh please... both companies can still take lessons from Xerox PARC [xerox.com] . This link points to a cool idea for a Plays Anywhere technology which could eliminate much of the proprietary format/interface issues.

I don't know about you... (5, Funny)

MK_CSGuy (953563) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760176)

But I don't believe it 'till Netcraft confirms it

Another Loss Leader (2, Insightful)

mpapet (761907) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760181)

At this point it's about pride at Microsoft because none of their peripheral vendors can make a dent in Apple's market share.

They knock-off the iTunes and buy a bunch of media ads for the holiday sell-a-thon. By now the've paid for the retail slots too.

I think they've missed the boat though.

What does it say about market confidence (5, Interesting)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760182)

when MS announce they are going to compete with apple in this market, and Apples shares go up?

And it is not a media device, it is a lifestyle device...sheeesh.

And if they merge with a certain game company (0)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760189)

They can call it the Zune-Wii.

some features i wish it had (1)

johnty (558523) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760192)

if it could have the following:

-drag and drop functionality for ALL files
-decent mic input, as well as a line input for uncompressed recordings

then i'm totally getting one. those two above points are what kept me away from the iPod (even free ones offered by TD Canada, etc).

Re:some features i wish it had (1)

rockchops (866057) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760263)

>> drag and drop functionality for ALL files

and iTunes/iPod doesn't have this? :-/

Re:some features i wish it had (1)

MoneyT (548795) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760281)

It may interest you to know then that the video iPods support 44.1 Khz stereo recording. Granted you still need an imput device but they do support it.

Not quite the processor wars... (1)

cloudkiller (877302) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760194)

The processor wars were great for the consumers. AMD had a better product and they just seemed like such a lovable company. However in this portable media player war, the market leader is already the good guy. So my question is what happens when the underdog is not someone to pull for? Leave it to M$ to ruin the concept of the underdog.

No thanks (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760201)

My ipods do their job well. Simple to operate and 'just works'. ( oh and it looks nice too, which is plus ) What does microsoft offer that the ipod doesnt?

Re:No thanks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760316)

"What does microsoft offer that the ipod doesnt?"

You're at a party and it's your turn to plug your Zune into your friend's stereo. The vibe is great, you've got a killer track cued up, it's gonna shake the house and all the babes will go "Wooooo!" You plug it in, flip the aux selector, and the music player blares, at top volume...
"The owner of this stereo is different than the owner of this song. Looking for a network connection..."
That's WGMA - Windows Genuine Music Advantage.

Re:No thanks (1)

iMac Were (911261) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760344)

I totally don't see the attraction myself, but the answer is pussy.

am I the first?!?! (1)

hobo sapiens (893427) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760206)

Seen it. Larger than a Tic-tac. No bluetooth. Lame.

to be released Zuner or later... (1)

wolftone (609476) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760210)

Will this be released Zuner than longho-- I mean Vista?

I wonder (1)

Salsaman (141471) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760217)

Will it play ogg vorbis files ?

Another "me too" product from Microsoft. (5, Insightful)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760218)

Microsoft's "me too" products have not been very successful in the last several years.

An organization that doesn't have the creativity to create something often doesn't have even the creativity necessary to copying it successfully.

--
Are you willing to pay [costofwar.com] a lot to kill Arabs?

Re:Another "me too" product from Microsoft. (1)

P3NIS_CLEAVER (860022) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760352)

I hate to remind you of this, but All of microsoft products were 'me too' products. Some are successful, and some are not.

Not the first Microsoft MP3 player ! (5, Informative)

Daas (620469) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760242)

Microsoft have already done the software on the Toshiba Gigabeat S series... It can be syncronised with an Xbox 360, plays video, has FM support and sells for about the same price as an iPod. It uses a portable Media Center edition.

See the CNET review : http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-11396_7-6550266-1.htm l [cnet.com]

Ah, and has DRM (yeah !)

Daas

the UI will doom "Zunes" (3, Interesting)

freeradica1 (891828) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760246)

Part of the reason ITunes is popular (and one of the reasons that I use Winamp instead of WMP) is that the user interface for Windows Media Player sucks. Likewise, Firefox isn't only more functional than IE, it also just looks and feels better and cleaner. Even if "Zunes" had a better name, a seemless interface with online music stores, and no annoying DRM gimmicks, I would probably still pick another media player. Because Microsoft's UI's just suck. Microsoft's been sitting around waiting for the past 5-10 years for someone to come along with sleaker media players and browsers (and a cleaner OS), and now it's paying the price.

Microsoft Confirms "New Music Player" (2, Funny)

sootman (158191) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760249)

Editors: you misspelled 'iPod Killer" :-)

You slashdotters! Can't you see the big news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15760256)

Why is it so hard to actually anyone reply anything here besides the usual MS whine? Zune got a lot of potential bringing the music player market to a new step: a community based player, something you not only use to hear music but to connect to a community.

That's something that might make the iPod seem so 2006 and force apple to really inovate in their own product to keep on the competition: something they have not done at all, besides the more capacity+more sleek evolution.

An iPod killer that doesn't try to mimick the iPod is actually what this market is really needing right now. And shaking the iTunes monopoly might be really healthy.

in case you missed, the reall hot site is
http://www.comingzune.com/ [comingzune.com]

hell. stop whining.

alexandre van de sande

desperate, pathetic (5, Insightful)

boxlight (928484) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760264)

Apple not only has a stranglehold on the music player market, they have insane product loyalty, and they own the elusive "cool factor" with the iPod brand.

At this stage, for Microsoft to try and get into this market comes across as desperate and pathetic. Microsoft can't use Windows as leverage in this proposition -- like they could when they killed the well-rooted Wordperfect, Lotus123, and later Netscape -- so the only way Microsoft can make a dent here is for them to do something extremely innovative. That's simply not Microsoft's M.O.

This time next year: MS "Zune" is a distant memory, and iPod/iTunes owns 85% of the online movie rental/download business, and Apple has begun to make serious inroads in the "home media center" market.

boxlight

Too little, too late (1)

mollog (841386) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760286)

As usual, Microsoft waits for someone else to develop some new technology and a new market, then it tries to use its dominant position and money to take the market over. Microsoft claims that it innovates. That claim is crap. And this time I think they will fail to take over a product/technology. I expect Apple will cut its prices and make it unprofitable for Microsoft. Apple has probably already made enough money on the ipod and itunes.

This is one way for Microsoft to 'compete' in the marketplace; they take the profit out of a business. It's a way of reducing a competitor's profit margin. But they can't continue to lose money and hope to stay in business. They're seeing the erosion of their business in several fronts; servers are going with Linux, desktop apps are using open data formats, etc.

One benefit is that itunes and ipod will come down in price.

I thought it was a fake news story... (1)

mypalmike (454265) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760291)

But it looks like they'll be shipping Real Zune Now.

Name? (4, Funny)

mtec (572168) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760309)

Zune's a name like Tune, (how odd!)
Just lacks an 'i' and lacks a 'Pod'.

With marketing and Xbox gloss
They'll gain a share but take the loss.

With 40 billion stock bought back
Ballmer might just dodge the sack.

But Jobs would say the chance is slim,
and silhouettes will come for him.

Oh such a clever site.. (1)

InfraredAD (904482) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760328)

Viral Marketing 101... and it's lame... the comingzune.com site is just a spin off of the 360 marketing me thinks. I hope it fails, miserably. Maybe MS will get a clue and stick to being on the Desktops of (most) cubicles.

will WGA verify that all ipod files are illegal... (1)

hAckz0r (989977) | more than 7 years ago | (#15760343)

...erase and replace them with M$ versions of same, charge your account for it, and prevent you from reinstalling that nasty "iCounterfitMusic"(TM) ever again. But I am sure "Mr Music/video-clipy" will look real cute dancing on your screen while its blasting away. ;)
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