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Study Claims Men Play Female Avatars to 'Win'

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the not-sure-i-agree dept.

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mytrip writes to mention a News.com article about the rationale behind male players playing female avatars in online games. The article says that, while some players are probably exploring 'gender roles, many just want free stuff. From the article: "Kathryn Wright, WomenGamers's consulting psychologist, earlier this decade found that 60 percent of male players who don female avatars, or on-screen personas, do it to gain an advantage in game play. An enthusiast with the online handle Jackpot649 nailed the zeitgeist in his response to the About.com query: 'I'm a guy, but if I gotta look at an avatar all day, I'd sooner look at a female avatar. Plus, people give you more free stuff.'"

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Sounds like (1, Informative)

venicebeach (702856) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809574)

Autogynephilia [wikipedia.org]

This is why I treat all players in the game as men (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809608)

I give free stuff to people occasionally, but I don't think I've ever given something to a player because of their onscreen gender. I happen to know one of the people I regularly game with is a guy who plays female avatars, and probably a good percentage of the other 'women' I game with are really men. So, I really don't give a crap about someone's gender in game, because chances are, they aren't what their character is anyhow.

My Credo - I play games to have fun, not to meet girls. Doesn't mean I'll never meet a girl in game, I just don't *try* to meet any girls in game. Put another way, I just try to treat everyone equally - all with respect, and trying to be the best teammate I can if I team with them, and I form friendships without caring the gender of the person. I suppose in the process of that, some of the people I become friends with will be female, and some male.

The reason I mention this is, from time to time you see 'articles' on the internet about people who've met wives/husbands through an online game. While I'm sure this has happened occasionally, these 'articles' seem to be more marketting vehicles for the game in question than anything else. Someone who goes into the game trying to find a girlfriend (girls looking for guys would probably have a reasonable level of success finding guys - but maybe not guys they would really like, I dunno) is probably going to open themselves up to foolishness like giving gifts to impress a girl that is really a guy.

Re:This is why I treat all players in the game as (0, Troll)

AoT (107216) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809637)

And let's admit it, men like to control women, weather they be digital or real. Games just makes it easier for men to control beautiful women.

Re:This is why I treat all players in the game as (3, Funny)

BLAG-blast (302533) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809778)

And let's admit it, men like to control women, weather they be digital or real. Games just makes it easier for men to control beautiful women.

Nah, but the chick models in AQ2 were skinny and harder to aim at than the guy models.

Re:This is why I treat all players in the game as (1)

deceased comrade (919732) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809926)

Unreal Tournament always had huge bulking guys, while the female avatars were the size of their forearm. Less to aim at (even if where you hit wasn't entirely based off of what was on the screen) the more you'll try and fail to shoot at the person. I can see how this might also apply for other games, but I cant see the people playing MMORPGs giving free stuff to "girls", that just seems very 4th grade to me.

Re:This is why I treat all players in the game as (2, Informative)

springbox (853816) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809887)

And let's admit it, men like to control women, weather they be digital or real. Games just makes it easier for men to control beautiful women.

Don't be so ignorant. There are a lot of games where you're stuck with what your character looks like for a potentially long time. Since I have a choice, I don't pick the often fugly males. I don't know where you pulled your idea out of, but basing your opinion of everyone on a stereotype can be pretty offensive.

I play female in WoW (2, Interesting)

sgant (178166) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809869)

My alliance characters are all female because quite frankly, I would rather spend my time looking at a pleasing female form. But contrast that with my horde characters, they're all male. I wonder what that means....other than I spend way too much time playing that silly game.

Re:Sounds like (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809965)

I'd like to note two things about your article:

1) All those big warnings at the top about NPOV? They conceal the fact that the concept of "autogynephilia" is possibly the most debated idea/issue in the transsexual community, and has some pretty good evidence against it.

2) It's an issue in just the transsexual community. Despite what it might sound like, this tempest-in-a-teacup is about transsexuality, and is not about general male gender issues, and trying to apply it there will only be troublesome at best and most likely useless. Please do some reading on transsexuality (it's an issue you definitely need to read the actual literature on) before trying to blanketly apply any part of it outside of it, as the two are quite different.

Re:Sounds like (5, Funny)

megaditto (982598) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809996)

You are missing the point:

Females are mean, nasty, egocentric furies bent of World domination

The reason why girl-avatars get more stuff is because males are generous to females. The reason male-avatars do not get more stuff is because females are stingy and treat males like shit!

Online gaming has helped uncover the century-old conspiracy: females wish to exploit male generosity to climb to the top, giving little in return for our help.

What can we do about it?

SomethingAwful's experiments (5, Funny)

jpardey (569633) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809578)

On SA, there is a column, "Art of Warcraft." Recently, one of the editors has been posing as a female character not only to get massive amounts of gold, but also for the simple pleasure of humiliating gamers.

See Part 1 [somethingawful.com] and Part 2 [somethingawful.com] .

Re:SomethingAwful's experiments (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809776)

I think it is pitiful to take advantage of something we been programmed to do. It is like pretending to be gay, and than bashing him (or her) for liking you. Grow up. There is nothing funny about it. I don't know why it is okay to make fun of heterosexuals sexuality anymore than of gays,or of trans genders.

Re:SomethingAwful's experiments (1)

Arivia (783328) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809987)

If nothing else, all the uninformed associations to trans issues that come up every time this topic comes around show that transfolk get mired in this sort of idiocy, too.

Re:SomethingAwful's experiments (1)

ildon (413912) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809795)

"Recent" is a bit of a stretch, in internet terms at least. The article is 4 months old.

Re:SomethingAwful's experiments (1)

jpardey (569633) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809828)

Either way, you have to admire my 1337 karma-whoring.

Anyway, yeah, sorta recent, I should say. More recent than Jeff K.

Re:SomethingAwful's experiments (1)

anexkahn (935249) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809948)

This article is like hardcore true....I always play female caharacters for this very reason :) I like to get free stuff and get ganked like .02% less.

duh (1)

shidobu (672566) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809579)

this is a pretty simple logical syllogism, I'm not sure anyone didn't know this. A) there are people who will give in-game items to female avatars as a way of flirting B) there are other people who do anything possible for an ingame advantage C) free in-game items are an in-game advantage Ergo: people, males and females, will play female avatars in order to gain a playing advantage. what a shocker.

Re:duh (2, Informative)

grammar fascist (239789) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809631)

I've played a female character once, ages ago, on a MUD. I can't for the life of me remember why - probably thought it was funny. I definitely put one over on one of my best friends...

Anyway, when I first logged on, some high-level male character was in the guild. He dumped a bunch of gold on me, a nice suit of armor, a great sword, kissed me, and took off. It was weird.

And no, I didn't like it. :p Well, I did. Not the kissing part, the equipment part. But it seems like, online, men expect something sensual from you if they give you favors. I suppose it's not that unlike life in that respect.

Yes, but 60% is insane (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809711)

Yes, the concept isn't new, but the interesting part of the study is the numbers. The article claims that 60% of males using female avatars are attempting to gain some sort of an advantage.

Not only is that way higher than I would have expected; it's also far more than the number of players-with-female-avatars actually claiming to be female. In my own experience, the majority of 'females' will quickly admit to being male even without being asked; often with some bullshit defensive story about preferring to look at female characters' backsides. Even assuming that there are no real girls at all, that still doesn't tally with the study's findings.

Perhaps my own experience is atypical, but from my point of view the results still seem a bit fishy.

Re:Yes, but 60% is insane (2, Interesting)

werewolf1031 (869837) | more than 7 years ago | (#15810161)

often with some bullshit defensive story about preferring to look at female characters' backsides.
I call bullshit on your supposed bullshit. Honestly? That is exactly why I play female characters in Guild Wars. I mean, c'mon, which would YOU rather look at for hours on end? The backside of some burly male warrior, or the nicely curved backside of any of the female characters? Since there's no inherant gameplay advantage to a character being either male or female in that game (stats are identical and gender is strictly a cosmetic aspect), might as well go with whichever one finds more aesthetically pleasing. Not exactly rocket surgery here, folks. And most fellow gamers realise pretty quickly that I'm a guy, because -- shocker! -- they do exactly the same thing for exactly the same reason.

And really, have you seen the female rangers in that game? Eye candy indeed...

U need a study? (3, Insightful)

in2mind (988476) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809583)

They had to do a study find that men hide behind female avtars?

Its been going on in Chat for ages.
Men like to look at female avtars. Whats new?

Re:U need a study? (2, Insightful)

Fallingcow (213461) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809607)

I even do it on single-player games.

Why?

1. The visuals factor, which has already been discussed. I'd rather look at a chick's butt than a guy's.

2. Even single-player RPGs usually give an advantage to female characters. Everything's a little easier, and there are a few more things you can do, in, say, Fallout II, if you play as a woman. Rarely can you NOT do something that a guy can do (i.e. sleep with a woman, though the guys, notably, can almost never sleep with other guys) and often you can do things that the guys can't.

Re:U need a study? (4, Interesting)

owlman17 (871857) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809678)

Yes, in Might and Magic I, your party had to be all-female if you wanted to survive, make it to the end. Without giving too much away, there's an important town there that drains your hitpoints per step for male characters. Not a few of my friends had to revamp their line-ups midway in the game. I started a bit later than them, so my party of six were all females right from the start.

In that game, its not just an advantage to be female. Its essential.

Re:U need a study? (1)

ultranova (717540) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809691)

3. Since I'm already taking on a role completely different from what I normally wear, why not go all the way ? Most RPG main characters end up single-handedly saving the world, so they already have nothing to do with me - so why should they be the same gender ?

4. Most female RPG sprites are better looking than male ones. This isn't as relevant anymore, since most polygonal characters are awfull-looking no matter their gender ;(.

5. And of course, sometimes you don't have a choice - think FF6 or Valkyrie Profile. The main character just happens to be female and that's that. Live with it or die trying ;).

Re:U need a study? (1)

a_ghostwheel (699776) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809703)

2. Even single-player RPGs usually give an advantage to female characters. Everything's a little easier, and there are a few more things you can do, in, say, Fallout II, if you play as a woman. Rarely can you NOT do something that a guy can do (i.e. sleep with a woman, though the guys, notably, can almost never sleep with other guys) and often you can do things that the guys can't.
Not always. E.g., if you take games like Baldurs Gate 2 or Jade Empire - romance options for male characters are much richer and better developed then for female.

WoW is the rare exception (1)

Myria (562655) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809730)

WoW has absolutely no gameplay difference between male and female. The stats and items are identical for both genders. Men can even wear the item "White Wedding Dress". =)

You can also /kiss /flirt etc. to either gender no matter yours.

Melissa

Re:WoW is the rare exception (1)

pyrrhonist (701154) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809910)

Men can even wear the item "White Wedding Dress". =) You can also /kiss /flirt etc. to either gender no matter yours. Melissa

It's butch lasses like you that ruin the premise of a perfectly fine article. ;)

Specifically... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809967)

If a good-aligned female character (non-lawful, I asume) talks to the streetwalker in Neverwinter nights, she can get some information. If a male character talks to her, he gets solicited. Oh yes, and Chun-Li is very fast and has long reach with kicks.

Re:U need a study? (1)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809852)

What's new is people who study such things are coming to realize that most people have not spent a great deal of time thinking about "exploring gender roles" when they pick up their mmog.

I'm not sure what kind of people go and explore gender roles, I hope it works out for them, but if you're gonna play a mmog and group with me, try to focus on the damned game and its objectives.

An old axiom (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15810009)

The Internet:
Where the men are men,
the women are men,
and the 16 year old girls are FBI agents.

slash-summary (5, Funny)

underworld (135618) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809590)

i for one welcome our gender bending.... *sigh* (you can fill in the rest)

-or-

1. sign up for online game
2. assume female identity
3. ??
4. profit

-or-

in soviet russia, female avatars play games as you

-or-

well... you get picture....

Re:slash-summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809777)

I, for one, welcome our question-mark-profitting, soviet-russian, white-wedding-dress-wearing, mail-order-female-avatar brides. Or something; I forgot where I was going with this. but you get the picture...

The Internet is for Camwhores (2, Insightful)

Sarusa (104047) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809622)

People even do this on text based mu*s. It's got to be nearly as old as the internet.

You could almost say this is a step towards equality though it's inequality in exploiting uncomfortable (if true) gender stereotypes.

I guess the only question left is whether women playing men are more likely to give stuff to female characters.

Re:The Internet is for Camwhores (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15810091)

No man, the Internet is for porn!! [google.com]

So grab your d**k and double click 'cause the internet is for porn!!!

Trying to be given in-game items? (3, Funny)

stonertom (831884) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809643)

Are these people crazy, flirting with/giving gifts to those with female chars? Is there some slight chance there gonna get them to take off there Armor and /sleep with them? If you want to find rendered nudeness there's far better ways than through MMOs

It's just a matter of control. (4, Funny)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809657)

For many in the non-stop-gaming demographic, a female avator is the closest they'll come to having any personal influence over where, and up to what, a relatively large pair of breasts will be.

Re:It's just a matter of control. (1)

Fulcrum of Evil (560260) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809751)

Ah yes, tapping into the sequestered nerd stereotype. Tell me, would controlling a smaller set of breasts to some degree be a lesser achievement? I find that breasts look best when matched to the women who own them. Since I like smaller women, they tend to have smaller boobs. Eh, whatever.

Re:It's just a matter of control. (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809938)

Is there by chance any game where women shoot bullets or lasers from their breasts? Nobody would want to play as a guy because they only have *one* gun.

Don't forget closet transsexuals (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809668)

I'm a man. I play female characters because I wish I were female, and get no other chance to express myself. I don't do raids in WoW because of Ventrilo.

Re:Don't forget closet transsexuals (2, Interesting)

WWWWolf (2428) | more than 7 years ago | (#15810129)

And don't forget the almost-but-not-quite transsexuals. I don't, shall we say, feel strongly enough about this to get myself operated, but if there was a widget to turn me to a woman for a day at time, I'd be first in the line. RPGs, however, are good enough a simulation. =)

I also play female characters because it helps me see the world from a different viewpoint. I write stuff. I want the fiction to have interesting characters. It helps not just to see how the world seems to treat females but experience it first-hand.

Also, I don't really know about the fantasy races - people rarely engage in roleplaying online so deeply that they'd actually treat, say, humans and elves fundamentally differently. Try playing a female character, and you see the difference right away, even in RP-light places.

That's basically it (3, Insightful)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809673)

but if I gotta look at an avatar all day, I'd sooner look at a female avatar.

That's the beginning and end of it for me. I don't consider myself to be the characters I play. I'm more of a puppeteer pulling the strings.

Re:That's basically it (2, Informative)

Murodese (991864) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809704)

Confirmed. Also, often female characters have had far more time put into things like animation - hoping to hook male gamers. This has the additional side-effect of making the female characters look a lot more 'smooth', and just generally makes for a more enhanced gaming experience. People read into things like this far too often for no good reason, it seems.

Re:That's basically it (1)

heli_flyer (614850) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809845)

I played an Amazon in Diablo II for two reasons. One of the reasons was yeah, I'd rather stare at a female character all day. The other was: amazons are the only char class with long-distance weapons. I must have been playing incorrectly, because nobody every gave me free stuff.

Re:That's basically it (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 7 years ago | (#15810082)

your attitude toward the other players has a fair bit to do with it. I started a female night elf hunter (yay for stereotypes) in WoW and purposly played dumb when I was starting. I got loads of crap. Until I couldn't stand the idiots giving me bad advice. It seems that when you correct them once the illusion is shattered and the stuff goes away.

Re:That's basically it (1)

Yrd (253300) | more than 7 years ago | (#15810183)

Same thing for me. The female running animation in City of Heroes is much nicer, too.

funny....... (1)

Rooked_One (591287) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809676)

when I see people in the games I play, if they happen to have a female-ish name, I always give them the same thing - a clip of hot lead.

This is news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809679)

Stuff that matters.

I feel like... (1, Insightful)

Ninwa (583633) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809687)

I've read this article, or similar probably a good dozen times. Why is this such a popular discussion? Is there some sort of stigma attached to a male roleplaying a female character that I'm unaware of? I've been playing MMO's for over five years, and in all of my experience I've never had a big-chested mage ask me for free items on the premise that they're female. It's always the female avatars going, "sup, wanna hunt?" and you immediately know their gender. Alternatively, "ekek ^^; brb my sis wants on the pc", you know it's female. There's really know question involved.

Besides, who the hell cares?

It's a stupid stupid stupid thing to "research" in my oppinion.

Feel free to tell me I'm wrong.

126 Battle Mage - Asheron's Call - Male
99 Ranger - NexusTK - Male
60 Rogue - World of Warcraft - Female
50 Shaman - DAOC - Female

Me - Male

Re:I feel like... (2, Insightful)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809785)

It's always the female avatars going, "sup, wanna hunt?" and you immediately know their gender. Alternatively, "ekek ^^; brb my sis wants on the pc", you know it's female. There's really [no] question involved.

Nice to know you're so shallow.

The only women I personally know who play or have played MMORPGs are very much the "sup, wanna hunt" type. Those I met via the MMORPG who I know to be female are as good-or-better on average than the men.

Women can and do roleplay, be it tabletop or PC, on a level just as good as the men. They tend to be a bit weaker (in gross average) in some other departments of the game, but no more than a guy who's just a moron. (You know, the kind who presumes he knows how the game works, and anyone who disagrees is either a noob or a chick.)

Re:I feel like... (5, Interesting)

Hannah E. Davis (870669) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809890)

Interestingly, I'm a girl in real life, and since I don't act super-girly unless I'm really bored and actually want free crap for my character (which is pretty rare, especially since I can't keep the cute persona up very long), people often assume I'm male. My male friends, on the other hand, know exactly what the average gamer guy expects a girl to sound like, so they roleplay it to the max. Needless to say, they get guys fawning all over their female avatars with no questions asked.

As a rule of thumb, if a person says they're female and acts normal, they probably are. If, on the other hand, they act sickeningly cute and helpful and otherwise girly, it's typically a safe bet that you're dealing with one or more of the following: a man, a pre-teen girl, or a really fat/ugly girl who acts cute on the internet to get the attention she so desperately needs.

Re:I feel like... (1)

beoswulf (940729) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809922)

As a rule of thumb, if a person says they're female and acts normal, they probably are. If, on the other hand, they act sickeningly cute and helpful and otherwise girly, it's typically a safe bet that you're dealing with one or more of the following: a man, a pre-teen girl, or a really fat/ugly girl who acts cute on the internet to get the attention she so desperately needs.

No wonder you can find real, normal females in internet games today. MMORPGs have turned into my ex's soap operas. If the Queen has balls, it's because she's probably a guy, in WOW at least.

Re:I feel like... (1)

WWWWolf (2428) | more than 7 years ago | (#15810162)

Why is this such a popular discussion? Is there some sort of stigma attached to a male roleplaying a female character that I'm unaware of?

Because deep down, players really really wish the female character they see is actually female, and the male characters are actually male. They feel there must be something wrong, might even feel downright betrayed, if the person behind the character actually isn't the same gender as the player.

Sure, everyone says it's okay to play opposite gender. They just feel bad that they can't figure out which gender the player really is, even when that doesn't matter at all. It's probably one of those subconscious fears that are hard to drive out.

It's not really the case of approving of the thing. It's about uncertainty.

Well, that's just my theory. I've noted people act much more rationally if I state plainly in the character descs that I'm actually a guy. =)

Creepy (1)

bjason82 (820735) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809694)

I play entropia universe and it seems as though most people I have come in contact with stick with their natural gender identity. I also found out that one female avatar was actually a dude and everyone I know in-game thought it was creepy. Then again it is way more economical in entropia to be female because clothing and armor is much cheaper. So if i were to ever create a female avatar I wouldn't be running around with a frity name like daisy-sunshine, but instead I'd go for something more macho as to not deceive anyone.

Re:Creepy (2, Informative)

grammar fascist (239789) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809738)

So if i were to ever create a female avatar I wouldn't be running around with a frity name like daisy-sunshine, but instead I'd go for something more macho as to not deceive anyone.

You'd have the fear factor going for you then, too. Women named "Butch" are just scary.

OMG! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809747)

You mean you are a guy daisy-sunshine?! oh my god! You fooled me!

Re:Creepy (1)

Merusdraconis (730732) | more than 7 years ago | (#15810102)

I've noticed the same thing on a couple of other MMOs I've played - Puzzle Pirates and AT Tale In The Desert both seem not to have a lot of men playing women. It probably has a lot to do with the gender imbalance - YPP and ATITD both have pretty even male/female splits, whereas WoW, not so much, and if there are actually women in the game it's going to be more likely you'll be mistaken for a woman. Often guys who want a nice ass to look at won't bother in that case.

I know I did (1)

Kuvter (882697) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809700)

In WOW that's exactly why I played female characters, and it works.

I also had female friends who would play as male characters just so they wouldn't have to deal with guys flirting with them.

Re:I know I did (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15810192)

I did it for 10 years, not gaming but another area.

And I almost feel like calling this article a dupe. This is another view of the same situation described in that other gender related article yesterday - the Red Hat women's group. Look at all the gender stereotypes coming out in the comments. Guys, this kind of stuff shows what your 'real' thoughts are about gender differences. While gender 'should be' as irrelevant in a work or programming or gaming situation as someone being left-handed or having blue eyes, it's really not.

No Surprise, MySpace Experiment (4, Interesting)

otisg (92803) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809724)

This should be no surprise. About half a year ago I went to one of the BarCamp gatherings where a couple of people presented the results of their study of MySpace, where they found similar behaviour. But they found a lot of other interesting stuff. Here is the link: http://ejohn.org/blog/tags/barcamp/ [ejohn.org] (there is some actual code there) - scroll down to "Presentation 2: Subverting Social Networks (4:45pm, Sunday)" or just hit the slides directly: http://ejohn.org/files/social.pdf [ejohn.org] .

Duh: (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809725)

That's what MMORPG is:

Many
Men
Online
Role
Playing
Girls

Whatever... (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809779)

I tend to pick from both, more on such basic premises as to what fits the character... for example fighter, ranger and paladin are always male... don't know why, but women in heavy armor just doesn't snap. I do prefer sorceresses over sorcerors/mages, I suppose mostly for the thought of a timid little woman kicking major ass. Necros are male tho, dunno why but a female necros creep me out more. Women can be warriors though, but then barberian (amazons) or assassins. And any dwarf in an RPG is male, sexist as it might be but the female dwarfes stay at home. Healers/Clerics/Priests can be both. About the avatar: Seriously, get a life. Or even a porn movie.

Re:Whatever... (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809838)

Too true. In general, I play casters as females and other classes as males. Why? Because robes look good on female avatars, and not on males. Purely an aesthetic thing on my part.

I want the link! (1)

frickendevil (977786) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809799)

Can anyone give me the link to the government website dedicated to giving out grants to useless studies? I have a few ideas that could make me rich.

Study Claims Men Play Female Avatars to 'Win' (2, Funny)

kcidybom (991915) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809802)

That's interesting. A friend of mine and his wife switch - his avatar is female and hers male. It's funny to hear her tell her hubby "Hay hon, shake your ass a little. (he does) She giggles "Isn't that cute?"

I am a man man! (3, Interesting)

ArcticCelt (660351) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809805)

I played WOW until 60. My policy was exactly don't ask don't tell. That's why I hate using things like ventrilo because then you hear the big raspy voice coming out of that hot looking priest avatar. But in end game at lev 60, if you want to do raids, you have no choice (ventrilo becomes very useful) and that's when you realize how many women are not women :). I admit that instinctively I felt compelled to help and protect the chicks avatars even if I knew that there was a good chance that she was a dude. Still, personally, I would not be able to play a women. I like role playing and when I was playing it was a total immersion for me and taking the role of a girl is not my thing. No matter the reward. Why? because I am a man man!

Re:I am a man man! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809865)

Say what? You're a man's man?

Re:I am a man man! (1)

NightRain (144349) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809868)

Why? because I am a man man!

Are you also an elf, or dwarf, or paladin or whatever? Because stating on one hand that you're in to the full immersion aspect of roleplaying, but can play someone of another race easier than you can play someone of the same race but different gender just strikes me as rather strange...

On the other hand (4, Insightful)

kahrytan (913147) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809808)


  Female players have been known to play male characters to avoid being hit on. Who wants to be hit on in a game while in the middle of a battle?

Re:On the other hand (1)

Faylone (880739) | more than 7 years ago | (#15810152)

Well, if the ones hitting on you with swords stop to try and hit on you with bad pick-up lines, abuse the chance. [cad-comic.com]
Note: I am a male in and out of games, so I don't take this particular chance at exploiting an opponent, but when I get any chance, I take it.

What about Females playing Male Avatars? (1)

dufachi (973647) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809815)

So what about us gals that have male avatars on games? Where's our study? Actually, I've only ever played one male character in an online rpg. But, I would like to say that in GemStone IV, I have been playing female characters (and am female) for over 10 years, and in my personal experience, I've only had one character (and it was recently) who benefitted from the "female factor" of having loot thrown upon her, although it wasn't for any flirtations. I don't have any experience with WoW and other newer graphic MMORPG's, though. GemStone IV generally attracts an older crowd as a text-based MMORPG than the newer graphical ones.

Re:What about Females playing Male Avatars? (1)

springbox (853816) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809943)

I wouldn't complain too much. Women are getting entire technology related websites [slashdot.org] trying to cater specifically towards them while men are still stuck with being the subjects of asinine studies [com.com] conducted by members of our gender obsessed society who think some of "the dudes" are stepping too close to the edge of their gender role.

Re:What about Females playing Male Avatars? (1)

beoswulf (940729) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809951)

In my old mu* I've seen a male character rp'd by a woman marry a female character rp'd by a man. Neither of them were aware of the RL gender situation until their IC and RL relationships were both serious. Let's see a constitutional amendment attempt to ban that.

I played a female character in WoW (1)

BoberFett (127537) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809822)

I mean, who doesn't think those Tauren women are hot? Are you with me? Guys?

Sure, but . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15810078)

I'm a furry [wikia.com] . And yes, I play a female character!

What about Female Orcs and Undead? (1)

WaR.KiN (805785) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809830)

Does it work with Orc and Undead females, or just the pretty ones like Human and Night Elves? Something interesting the study should have explored.

Re:What about Female Orcs and Undead? (1)

blankoboy (719577) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809889)

What, you've never been to www.bangbusorcgirls.com or www.undeadchickhotties.com? Sheesh, you're missing out!

big surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809880)

i did this in city of heroes and was given tons of power ups all the time. it isn't a big secret, 99% of females you see in online games are guarentee'd to be male.

Mmm /Agree (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15809902)

I played WoW for about a year and a half, as a female avatar, building a guild from the ground up. Believe it or not most the free crap you get is in the form of help, at best, but on the same hand many people will doubt your abilities as a player being "good".

It's a mind bender; for example when MC was the only raid instance out other then Onyxia, I played on my character and used Vent to direct the raid. The raid followed without question. When I went back to being voiceless female, however, the same people doubted the stragities I provided, being the -exact- same person, with the exact same stragities. They also said the "Male" persona was a better player, knowing how to tank and whatnot properly, when again it was still me all along.

Sexism, is very much alive and well, in and outside of games.

quote (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809931)

but if I gotta look at an avatar all day, I'd sooner look at a female avatar.

Reminds me of a saying by Steve Martin: "I would make a terrible chick because I would do nothing but play with my breasts all day." (paraphrased)
   

The upper hand (1)

mercuryswitch (952779) | more than 7 years ago | (#15809964)

I met someone on WoW who said he picked a female character for a slight upper hand in PvP; his character was created and leveled up to 60 for the sole purpose of PvP and hitting High Warlord, so he picked a female Tauren Shaman because he said they're harder to target compared to a male Tauren, because of the size difference. (He hated Orcs, so he didn't pick an Orc female to be a Shaman) Unfortunantly I myself picked a male Human. What a horrible choice. I should have rolled Gnome.

minus 2, TrolL) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15810008)

argued by E8ic

The characters name gives it away (1)

bxbaser (252102) | more than 7 years ago | (#15810074)

Females that play ussualy have a char name like axesmasher or some other
masculine based name because they are not playing it to flirt they are playing it to kill stuff.

The men that play females have a name like mistysunshine cause ethey are playing it to flirt.

Enjoyment? (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 7 years ago | (#15810085)

I almost always play females or halflings, I just don't find the huge male characters appealing, infact I can't stand them personally.

I've only ever been flirted with once and "put your cock away we're questing" shut him up nicely.

Giving items to me? WTF? Me and my friends always share items around, if we find newbie stuff which would be useful to people but not worth much we'll goto the newbie areas and give it out. Gender only matters if you make it matter, I personally don't.

Back in the old days.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15810103)

Alot of us used to play Quake II with the CrackWhore skin because they were smaller, therefore harder to hit. TFA doesn't appear to cover real reasons like this by focusing more on the more recent gaming types and styles than on the real history and causes behind their topic of research.
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