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Blue Crab Nanosensor to Fight Terrorism

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the crabs-have-joined-up-have-you dept.

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Roland Piquepaille writes "A substance found in crab shells called chitosan has very useful properties. For example, it has been used in bandages to stop bleeding. But now, researchers at the University of Maryland have used the chitosan from blue crabs living in Chesapeake Bay as a component of a nanoscale sensor system which could save many lives in the future. These blue crab nanosensors will be used to improve security in airports, hospitals and other public locations by detecting tiny amounts of explosives or chemicals in air and water. Read on for additional references and pictures of these blue crab nanosensors."

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Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (4, Insightful)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815176)

Oh, good, we've got nanosensors. Now we can stop overreacting maniacally to attacks, the wildfire of uncontrolled fear that destroys our freedom more than any bomb ever could. I can't wait to see our leaders appear on TV to tell us we can calm down.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815194)

Don't worry, the chesapeake has been fished so dry theyre unlikely to find enough of any indigenous species to meaningful quantities out of this crab..

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (2, Interesting)

greenhide (597777) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816013)

Mod this guy up. This was my first impression on reading the post (IHNRTFA). Unless there's been some recent resurgence in the bay depending on crabs from the Chesepeake for any kind of solution is not really sustainable.

On the other hand, maybe this is the only way to get the government interested in saving the Chesepeake Bay ecosystem. :-)

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 7 years ago | (#15817170)

"Unless there's been some recent resurgence in the bay depending on crabs from the Chesepeake for any kind of solution is not really sustainable."

Don't worry...we've got TONS of blue crabs down here around the Gulf in Louisiana!!

See? Good reason to help us get our coast back into shape which were sacrificed in large part to the immense oil and gas pipelines cut from the gulf into our marshlands to shore.

We not only help the country out with aobut 1/3 of its fuel...but, also, our crabs can help fight terrorism....and are mighty tasty to boot!!

:-)

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (4, Interesting)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815223)

Hey, those nano bombs can sting!

What do you bet the end result of this is going to be nothing more than a shitload of innocent people getting put on "The List" because of false positives?

There's such a thing as over measurement.

KFG

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

orangesquid (79734) | more than 7 years ago | (#15818188)

I'm foreseeing drug detection systems installed in schools... and administrators walking past all the lockers with super-sensitive hand-held sniffers (much easier than bringin in dogs!).

Why do I keep remembering statistics about how many dollar bills have traces of cocaine...

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

ate50eggs (647594) | more than 7 years ago | (#15818699)

What do you bet the end result of this is going to be nothing more than a shitload of innocent people getting put on "The List" because of false positives?

considering the origin of the information, I wonder if they'll call it "The Crab List". Nobody deserves that.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#15820310)

I think those false positives are just a means to an end. Along with counting them as "intercepted/suspected terrorists" (counted twice, no doubt). The ends are all the money to military contractors, namely Halliburton and the Carlyle Group. The Binladen construction company will probably get some subcontracts, likely in a joint venture with Dubai Ports World.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15820503)

Go read Crystallizing Public Opinion; Edward L. Bernays, copyright 1928.

KFG

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815232)

"I can't wait to see our leaders appear on TV to tell us we can calm down."

Um, yeah, well.. anyway... I'm all for better bomb-detecting sensors.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

kassemi (872456) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815247)

I think the issue here is that we're dumping our money into researching a threat that's simply placed into the mind of the public. Frankly, I'd rather see my money going somewhere useful, be it stem cell research or better schooling.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815278)

Frankly, I'd rather see my money going somewhere useful, be it stem cell research or better schooling.

Better schooling = more intelligent population = questionning the government = bad = not gonna happen in "The New USA".

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

montyzooooma (853414) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815426)

Cars kill more people than bombs do but a sensor to detect bombs is a good thing but speed cameras are evil. Guess which potentially saves more lives? And hey yeah they do both make life more difficult for innocent people but a quit-stuffing-your-face-with-shit sensor is going to save the most lives every year so where's the research for that?

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (4, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815456)

"Cars kill more people than bombs do but a sensor to detect bombs is a good thing but speed cameras are evil. Guess which potentially saves more lives?"

Ever wonder why they call it terrorism instead of mass-murder? 9-11 did a lot more damage than car crashes. The gubment's handling of terrorism is questionable, but the prioritization of it over car crashes is not nearly as black and white. Anti-terrorism (The intent, I mean, not 'The War Against Terror'...) is about more than just the saving of lives. Think about what the first week after 9-11 was like, then think about the year that followed. The fear, paranoia, and hardships that followed were incalcuable. There's a reason it's not swept under the rug until car crashes are dealt with. Think about it.

IBM Onboard (2, Funny)

gilberry (973422) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815948)

With IBM on board, using their tastiest, fastest computer for crimefighting, we can't lose. These IBM researchers amaze me. First they crafted the chart conquering pop music supercomputer Deep Blue Something. Now, the top 40 reduced to jetsam in their wake, they have set their sights on terrorism. You know, we can talk about how there's no pure research anymore, but IBM is as freewheeling and boundless as ever.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (2, Insightful)

vadim_t (324782) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816107)

And whose fault was the paranoia?

Look, I travelled every day to go to class on one of the lines where a train blew up in Madrid, only fortunately in the afternoon instead of the morning. I had a friend personally present there, and a classmate of mine died there.

But you know what I did next day? I went to class just like everybody else. I certainly wasn't demanding useless measures to be taken to protect me against something against which no protection is possible, and neither was most of the country.

As a matter of fact, to go to work I have to cross a dangerous road where sometimes the traffic lights *aren't working*. I'm much more likely to be killed by a truck on that road than by a bomb. There you have one place where spending some money would be actually useful.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (2, Informative)

Xyrus (755017) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816151)

There were no bombs involved in 9-11. This device would not have prevented those attacks.

~X~

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

soupforare (542403) | more than 7 years ago | (#15818120)

"bombs", probably not. "Explosives", surely.
You have seen video of the collapses, right?
[/conspiracy]

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 7 years ago | (#15818346)

Yes. We need blue crab gravity detectors.

If gravity can make mortally wounded, wildfire-weakened skyscrapers collapse, the terrorists have already won.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

soupforare (542403) | more than 7 years ago | (#15819197)

Indeed. Too bad building seven was neither mortally wounded nor weakened with wildfires.
THE ZIONISTS HAVE ALREADY WON.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#15820268)

You mean the zionists who wrote the protocols? That would be the antisemitic Russian secret police, and the sickos like you who carry their torch.

We've had enough of you bigots winning for a while. Try redirecting your quivering antennae at the Bush government that is actually killing people every day, and try to earn back some humanity and respect.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

dominion (3153) | more than 7 years ago | (#15817054)

There's a reason it's not swept under the rug until car crashes are dealt with. Think about it.

Because it serves a much greater political purpose for the people in power than car crashes ever could?

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816968)

Speed cameras have not been proven to reduce speed and prevent crashes (except perhaps initially in the short term), they just make money for the local government... a cash cow. Having real police or traffic enforcement out there to enforce the speed limit does. Also, in every place I have lived (four provinces in Canada and three states in the U.S.A., you didn't loose points on your license for photo radar tickets (since they can't prove you were driving your car), only for tickets issued when an enforcement officer tickets you. Also, your auto/motorbike insurance was not affected by photo radar tickets for the same reason... at least in the U.S. and anywhere with private insurance (not sure how over-priced government monopoly insurance like in British Columbia works). I think insurance rate increases have more of an effect on deterring speeding (or the threat of a ticket causing a rate increase) than does anything.

An interesting note: in Missouri, you can often get a "moving violation" (e.g. a speeding ticket) reduced to a non-moving violation (equivalent to a parking ticket) if you pay a lawyer to argue some 'thing' and also pay the fine. The lawyer usually charge $75 or $100 dollars. The cost more than offsets the insurance rate increase you would get for the "moving violation". Don't ask me the details of how or why it works, I just know that it does. No I never got caught so didn't need the service, but I had several friends who did. It is also why lawyers and some businesses advertise their services so much for these kind of traffic offences. It explains the formula one speeds on the highways there!

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815450)

I'd give you a million to one odds that things like this won't protect you against any bombs. They will, however, be used to catch many people carrying dangerous, dangerous plant leaves. God bless the protectors of our precious bodily fluids.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (3, Insightful)

QuantumFTL (197300) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815262)

While I do agree that we, as a nation, have overreacted quite a bit to terrorist actions, that doesn't mean we shouldn't work on security precautions. Prevention and mitigation are two of our strongest weapons that can help people avoid the need to worry.

On the other hand, I'm not all that convinced that these new security measures are really doing that much to make things like air travel safer. I know someone who accidentally took firecrackers in his pocket on an flight across the US once (after 9/11). The security people x-rayed and felt through all of his on-person possessions, but so much junk had accumulated in his pockets that they did not notice the presence of explosives.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

greenhide (597777) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816024)

I'll see your firecrackers and raise you smoke bombs. Although, to be fair, they were in my backpack, not my jacket.

Date of the flight? 9/14/01.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

ip_fired (730445) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816152)

As I flew through the Salt Lake City International Airport last time, they had new GE explosive detectors, which puff air on you and then spend a few seconds analyzing it for any explosives. It adds about 20 more seconds per person to the security screening process. I wonder if it would detect firecrackers or smoke bombs.

http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/products/ge-interl ogix?pnlid=9&famid=5131&catid=562&id=end_wt&lang=e n_US [geindustrial.com]

Hmm, I didn't realize it also detected drugs. They never mentioned that when I was walking through it.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816961)

It's probably scanning for nitrogen compounds, so if it can detect firecrackers, it'd detect the potassium nitrate in the gunpowder.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (0)

Walt Dismal (534799) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815334)

Please step out of line, citizen. Our nanosensors have detected carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen on you. These are components of known explosives. We'll have to put you on the no-fly list, although without telling you. Please step over to the officer putting on the rubber gloves...

Only the guilty have anything to fear, this is for your own good. What? Yes, that is a 55-gallon barrel of anal grease. If you're a patriotic American, you should have no complaint. Besides, you should overcome your petty selfishness, this is for the protection of your fellow citizens. Do you have a problem with that?

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#15820219)

Thank you, officer, for delivering my personal Rapture on time. Light me up!

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815367)

Oh sure, calm down if you want to simply detect attacks. I would rather fight terrorism so that there is not anything to detect in the first place. I guess that I am a warmonger.

The more we prevent the government from fighting this outward the more we ask for a police state. that will fight it inward

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815386)

Or the US could deal with the root cause of most terrorism and stop proping up that sacred cow, Israel. We couldn't have that now, could we? Far better to keep bombing the shit out of various parts of the Middle East. If the US was serious about dealing with terrorism it would have been on the ground in Southtern Lebonon four years ago working with the Lebonese government to help root out Hezbollah on the ground.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

Paua Fritter (448250) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815712)

The more we prevent the government from fighting this outward the more we ask for a police state. that will fight it inward

On the contrary, the more power you allow your militaristic rulers to assume the more they will use it against you. Have you been living in a cave for the last 5 years? You haven't noticed that Bush has used his self-proclaimed "war powers" to encroach on the civil rights on US citizens?

Also, your "fuck the world but leave us Americans alone please" attitude is not just naive, it actually helps to give America the bad name that it has around the world, as a danger to peace and international security. Perhaps if American citizens could cut their rulers down a peg or several they might find the rest of the world didn't give them such shit anyway.

PS nice troll

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#15820178)

There's no fine control over whether the government fights actual terrorism "outwards", or turns "inwards" into a police state. Fighting terrorism with war does both, while creating terrorism both outward and inward. That's why warmongers are terrorists, whether you're competing with other terrorists or not.

The more you fight terrorists with war, the more terror you make. And the more police state you make from the opportunists in our government who need terrorism to justify the police state that warmongers hand them.

Snap out of it. Don't get so excited at every military counterterrorist offering that just spirals the terrorism and police state out of control. That levelheadedness is the only way to defeat the terrorism, making the actual capture and even killing of actual terrorists more a cleanup operation than a perpetual war.

Re:Fights Terrorists, Not Terrorism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15816833)

Yeah, we don't have enough fear in the people...

I want to scream "praise Ala" and watch everyone hit the ground...

I want to run around the airport in a turbin and watch children cry....

I really really want the American people to abandon all their rights with only the hope of "safety."

Well, at least I got the last one.

Not to mention tasty (0, Flamebait)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815178)

And forbidden by some muslim scholars

Mmm...anti-terrorism

Re:Not to mention tasty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815199)

Crabs have terrorist sensors?

If so, my crotch may be the safest place from terrorists that the world has ever seen!

Re:Not to mention tasty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15816191)

What are you talking about,
if you are talking about craps, then I'll have to tell you that sea food is not prohibited in Islam, not even dead meat, which is normally prohibited.

P.S: Don't talk about things you don't know shit about.

Forbidden by Christians? (1)

dunc78 (583090) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816290)

I had a Christian friend tell me that they are forbidden in Christianity because they are bottom dwellers. I imagine that would be something in the Old Testament, so maybe they are forbidden in Judaism as well.

Re:Forbidden by Christians? (2, Informative)

Eccles (932) | more than 7 years ago | (#15818016)

I had a Christian friend tell me that they are forbidden in Christianity because they are bottom dwellers.

Crabs and other shellfish, as well as fish without scales, are not kosher as defined in Leviticus, which is a book in the Old Testament and thus the Bible. Christians generally don't follow the rules of Leviticus, but Jews do to varying degrees.

Chitosan. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815182)

Chitosan is also used for stitches that break up on their own. Cool, huh?

No Pinch (4, Funny)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815192)

Speaking of Crabs, I'm reminded of this video [youtube.com] .

Re:No Pinch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815201)

That CRAB had a LATINO accent!!! AYE AYe AyE I call racist!!!! Viva El Mexico!!

but... (3, Funny)

howhardcanitbetocrea (671190) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815203)

they wouldn't be allowed in airports with those sharp claws would they?

Re:but... (1)

nick_davison (217681) | more than 7 years ago | (#15818108)

As a reader wrote to Reader's Digest once:

At the airport, I saw a guardsman reporting for duty. I was glad to see he had to go through the same procedures we do: He had to place all metal items in the X-Ray, remove his boots and step through. They even confiscated the pocket knife he was carrying... Then, on the secure side of the scanners, they handed him back his assault rifle.

And another species goes extinct... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815204)

But who cares... as the stupid jingle says

"O Kani yorimo taisetsu no mono wa aru'

Re:And another species goes extinct... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815375)

Are you kidding? This (and many other useful things crabs give us) will ensure their survival, just like cows, sheep, chickens, dogs, giant pandas, etc. usefulness ensures their survival.

Roland (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815226)

Roland Pipsqueek, we don't want to read your crap about fighting terrorism. We also don't care about your lame attempt to get more coverage on your crappy zdnet blog of how you have crabs. Go away.

Sure, we're safe... (3, Funny)

ShadowSonic (910417) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815230)

...until the terrorists learn to attack their weak points for MASSIVE DAMAGE.

Re:Sure, we're safe... (1)

ESqVIP (782999) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815554)

Well, that has only been tested on giant enemy crabs. These ones are nano(sensor) good-doer crabs, so we're safe for now.

Re:Sure, we're safe... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15817620)

The only reason I clicked on this story was to see how long it would take somebody to unleash the MASSIVE DAMAGE.

No Entry! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815237)

Warning!

Firearms, explosives, flammable liquids, radioactive materials, poisons, knives, and persons allergic to shellfish not allowed beyond this point.

necessity is the mother of invention? (3, Interesting)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815244)

These blue crab nanosensors will be used to improve security in airports, hospitals and other public locations by detecting tiny amounts of explosives or chemicals in air and water.

Because after all, we've had such a huge problem with explosives and "chemicals" in airports, hospitals, and "other public locations"...

Re:necessity is the mother of invention? (1)

EnsilZah (575600) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815328)

Don't know about you, but here in israel we HAD had problems with explosives in public locations.
We have security guards checking the bags of every person entering almost any store, restaurant or other public facility.
If you could mount one of those sensors at the door of a bus, it would probably make a big difference.

Re:necessity is the mother of invention? (1)

MrShaggy (683273) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816634)

Unfortunately, none of this while do much to help. If there are sensors in a building, and Joe Terrorist wants to bomb it. They either throw a bag full of bombs into a room, then set them off, or he will do it with a suicide run, which there isn't much you can do about that. If he walks into store.. the alarms will go off, and so will he. Or a car-bomb next to the building all-together. The point of terrorism is striking fear. If they strike in a market or in the middle of the street, that is all they need. If they can manage to get a building, then thats just 'icing on the cake' as it were.

Re:necessity is the mother of invention? (1)

EnsilZah (575600) | more than 7 years ago | (#15820770)

I don't think you quite understand how it works around here.
You don't just walk into a store around here.
There's a scurity guard between you and the door.
If the suicide bomber trys to run in he's likely to be shot, or the guard might block him and risk death (which has happened).

The most common scenario is of a suicide bomber entering a restaurant or getting on a bus and exploding, and i think in those cases this sensor could help, if only by making the security guard's check of people's bags more thorough.

RIIIIIDGE RACER (1, Funny)

fo0bar (261207) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815250)

You know, I once used giant enemy crab nanosensors [youtube.com] to attack its weak point for massive damage. True story.

Re:RIIIIIDGE RACER (1)

Frightening (976489) | more than 7 years ago | (#15817802)

Are there too many anti-sony youtube vids being posted recently, or am I imagining things?

Alright, I get it. I'm imagining things.

"Could" (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815255)

...which could save many lives in the future. These blue crab nanosensors will be used to improve security...

Ah yes, "could" - what a wonderful word. It "could" be that bad people will be tortured for all eternity after they die. Or, it "could" be that good people will be tortured for all eternity after they die.

"Could" is a word of so many possibilities. It is totaly unlike its lesser cousin, the word "will", - as in "Thousands of people will die of poverty in the next few hours". Yes, let's focus on what could happen rather than what is happening.

fago8z (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815313)

bJoin GNAA (GAY are just way over And as BSD sinks failure, its corpse OF AMERICA irc you should bring

diet supplement (2, Informative)

Xtravar (725372) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815374)

Chitosan is also considered to be a miracle diet supplement which absorbs fat and suppresses hunger... ... take that with a grain of salt.

http://drumlib.com/dp/000026.htm [drumlib.com]

Someday, we'll have really fat terrorists because of this.

Re:diet supplement (1)

Lissajous (989738) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815728)

I would love to take it with a grain of salt - unfortunately I had some chitosan earlier and I'm not really hungry at the moment.

Funny Story (4, Insightful)

aXis100 (690904) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815380)

No matter how good the sensor technology is, you still have humans driving the system.

A funny example is an industrial town I fly to on a regular basis. Most of the people work in the mines, where explosives can be a common part of many poeples jobs. When explosives traces are regularly detected at the airport explosives scan, their first question is "Have you been on a mine site recently?" Obviously 99% of people say yes, and are let through without question.

What is the point? We're running around banning knitting needles and letter openers and it makes no fucking difference.

Re:Funny Story (2, Funny)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815414)

We're running around banning knitting needles . . .

Sweaters can cause itch and afghans kill.

KFG

Re:Funny Story (1)

kbielefe (606566) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815649)

If you think the population of mine workers is large, I set off the alarm once after shooting off a bunch of fireworks on new year's eve. All I had to do was sign a paper. They inspected my bags more closely, and made me check the bag that set off the alarm even though I was going to carry it on.

Does anyone know when the last time explosives were actually set off on a plane?

Coming soon... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815405)

Terrorists fighting terrorists!

You know it will happen. Apparently they're the only ones not fighting terrorists yet.

Mandatory (1)

ntufar (712060) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815447)

I, for one, welcome our blue crab overlords.

-- Can you imagine blue crabs with laser beams?
-- How about nano blue crabs with laser beams?

Spice is life (1)

greg1104 (461138) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815459)

As a long-time Maryland resident, there's only one question I want answered: will the nanosensors work better with some Old Bay on them?

Re:Spice is life (1)

Mike_ya (911105) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816816)

Maybe the question should be when will Homeland Security proclaim crabs essential for homeland defense thus becoming protected leading to higher prices or severe rationing of crabbing. Overreaching security procedures fine, but I'd be PISSED if they mess with my crabs.

Save us from what?? (2, Interesting)

lostngone (855272) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815481)

Will ths magic substance stop people from highjacking a phine with a box cutter and flying the plane into a building? I'm getting sick and tired of the these people telling us it will make us safer as they take more and more of our rights away. I know, if they lock all of us up in prison the Government can make sure we are safe 100% of the time.

Cool... (2, Insightful)

aadvancedGIR (959466) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815503)

Many exhausts of explosive or dangerous chemicals can also be generated by normal activities of janitors, construction workers, farmers, or anyone smoking. I wish them good luck spending millions investigating all those false positives.

Isn't exactly a new idea.... (1)

jokeyjon (946244) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815677)

This company (http://www.biosensor.se/) has been producing a similar product for a couple of years now. It's used by the German and Australian customs officials for the detection not only of explosives, but also drugs (oh well). The existing tech as used in US airports has a dismal detection rate and also throws out several false positives. If you're going to have a system, then you might at least have one that works.

And the magicians will catch hell... (1)

misterhypno (978442) | more than 7 years ago | (#15815722)

Yep! Anyone who has ever had a pad of flash paper in their bag will get hauled out and strip searched.

Been there. Had it happen to ME.

After MacWorld a couple of years ago, in New York, the crack TSA troops manning the perimeter didn't understand the cards and nerf balls in my carry on were part of a MAGIC ACT and I wound up splattered up against a wall with a National Guardsman's M-16 shoved up my left nostril, with the Safety OFF!

I am SO not looking forward to this!

Lee Darrow, C.H.
Magician and Hypnotist
Chicago, IL

Easy hack to defeat... (1)

47F0 (523453) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816096)

There's already an easy hack against these crab nano-sensors. Seems they go into panic mode when they detect lemon-garlic butter. Shuts 'em down every time.

TSA is a mindset we don't want (4, Informative)

ianscot (591483) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816832)

I used to take my dog -- a Newfoundland -- in to the airport to pick people up. The baggage claim at our local airport basically lets people get dogs off their leashes after a flight, and according to the local cops it was okay. Never had a cross word from anyone; I wasn't inflicting too many more allergens on anyone, I hoped, and mostly we got a lot of good socialization when she was a puppy. At least some people seemed to get a wake-up in the middle of their exhausting travel day.

One day a TSA employee caught sight of us. A squad of four of them surrounded me, quietly preventing me from moving away as one lectured me on all the potential dreadful consequences should they decide to enforce their vaguely-defined regulations. I tried to ask after the specific laws or airport restrictions involved. There probably were some -- I'd always assumed the cops were just being smart about what to enforce and what not to -- but it was clear that the TSA guys were entirely motivated by that obnoxious self-righteousness I recognize from birding near power plants. You know, the one that comes with private security agencies taking themselves too seriously and not having clear "boundaries," so that they end up thinking their job is to harass people. Said people are to be presumed guilty, of course.

End result was me feeling intimidated, which seemed to be the goal. Those guys were a hybrid between hallway monitors and the bullies from your middle school.

Somehow the local cops had always managed to keep me in line, and to prevent potential terrorist attacks by Newfoundland drool and shedding, without any ill will. If one of them had brought this up with me I'd have taken it a lot differently...

I hope this will end all terrorism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15815995)

I hope this will end all terrorism, including the one is being committed in Lebanon by Israel using US bombs, killing more than 34 children.

Nothing fights terrorism like Justice (0, Troll)

vandan (151516) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816080)

Of course it's been said before, but investing in all these whiz-bang anti-terrorism devices is missing the point. You can't fight a social phenomenon such as terrorism with technology. You have to address its root cause(s). Right now, the root cause of terrorism is overwhelmingly the massive injustices thrust upon the people of the Middle East in the name of grabbing their oil. It would be a lot cheaper for the US to forget this bullshit 'war on terrorism' and relocate all the Israelis to Washington. After all, the US is Israel's closest ally. Why shouldn't such friends live so close together.

Macro Sensors (1)

davetv (897037) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816184)

I need a macro sensor to find me women to keep me occupied late at night instead of reading slashdot

Blah blah terrorism blah (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816321)

They can detect organic compounds? Then the major use of this technology will be to detect THC [wikipedia.org] . It'll be used in airports, then by cops in traffic stops, then in schools, then in your workplace.

The only place you'll never, ever see it being used for that purpose is a government building housing elected members.

False Positives (1)

curtvdh (738461) | more than 7 years ago | (#15816646)

But can they detect the individual components of 2-component explosives? Like, say, Potassium Perchlorate carried by one passenger and Aluminum or Magnesium powder carried by another? When mixed together in the correct proportions (no, I'm not going to tell you what they are), they will produce a crude but quite deadly explosive. Problem is that there are a thousand reasons why a person might legitimately be carrying traces of these components. Suddenly, you're going to have miners, janitors, gardeners, chemical factory workers, even senior citizens with dietary supplements being hauled out of line and searched for no good reason...

Chemicals? (1)

swelke (252267) | more than 7 years ago | (#15817467)

...by detecting tiny amounts of explosives or chemicals in air and water.

Oh no! Not chemicals! Protect the children!

I'm just kind of reactionary when people talk about "chemicals" as if they were always a bad thing. I know in this case they're probably referring to particularly nasty chemicals like nerve gas etc. but it still bugs me. And, of course, I can't be bothered to rtfa.

Great! Now "I've got crabs"... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15818569)

takes on a whole new meaning!
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