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Affordable Laser Printers?

Cliff posted more than 7 years ago | from the cheap-networkable-with-decent-output-quality dept.

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paul.h.burns asks: "I'm looking now for an affordable laser printer. The qualifications are that it must be network-able, under $300, and produce decent graphics. Color is not so important because I have an inkjet that I can use if I need color on any presentations. I've looked at Tom's Hardware, CNET, Pricewatch, and just plain googled around. I've found a few printers that meet one or two of the criteria, but not all three. Also, I've found some that look decent, except user comment's say that toner usage on those models is really high. So, now I'll ask everyone here at Slashdot: Are there any laser printers that you can recommend that would meet all three of my criteria?"

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236 comments

How about... (2, Funny)

grainfed (726370) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844450)

... 1000 monkeys. Taking dictation from pirates. Who are working for ninjas.

Re:How about... (1)

bunbuntheminilop (935594) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844487)

Don't you mean ninjas working for pirates? Or are pirates no longer cool thanks to Disney corp.?

Re:How about... (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844603)

Or are pirates no longer cool thanks to Disney corp.?

I don't follow. Does it have something to do with Pirates of the Caribbean, or with Disney's lobbying for expansion of the scope and duration of copyright?

Re:How about... (1)

bunbuntheminilop (935594) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844787)

I suspect the 'edgyness' of being a pirate is diluted by 'pirates of the carribean'. Can you provide a link to the expansion of the licence? Thats interesting.

I like the Brother HL-5170DN (5, Informative)

petard (117521) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844452)

I picked up a brother hl-5170dn. It's network ready, comes with zeroconf (bonjour in the apple world) and includes postscript and PCL emulation. The web configuration interface is quite nice, it's "just worked" with my Mac, Windows and Linux boxes, and is readily available for under $300 [google.com] . And as a bonus, it has a built-in duplexer. It is black-and-white only and has its toner and drum separate. (Which is a good thing, since drums generally outlast toner, and this lets you replace them separately without resorting to dodgy refilled toner).

Do be sure to download and use Brother's .ppd files for best results. The postscript emulation, while good, isn't perfect. Using their .ppd files seems to take care of all the rough edges I encountered.

I'm admittedly a rather light user in terms of volume. But after going through a ream of paper or so I'm still on the cartridge that shipped with the printer. YMMV of course.

There may be a newer better model than this one, but I haven't tried it and this one is clearly still available. I was initially a little nervous about moving away from canon engines, but I have been quite pleased after about a year.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (1)

johnmoe (103704) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844457)

I like mine, too. It works great.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (2, Informative)

kherr (602366) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844521)

I also got this printer when the toner went out on my ancient LaserJet 4. The HL-5170DN was cheaper than a new toner drum for the lj4, and it's higher resolution and faster. Because of the separate toner from the drum it'll be cheaper to operate, and it draws less power I'm sure. It also has Bonjour/Zeroconf, which makes using it with a Mac a snap.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (4, Informative)

petard (117521) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844562)

I was totally not expecting Zeroconf support from a printer at that price point. I was very surprised when I went to save a receipt for an online purchase to PDF from my Mac (thus invoking the print dialog) and saw the printer as an option even though I had not set anything up in print center yet.

It definitely draws less power than the LJ4, and to all evidence does not suffer from the same problems with the fuser rollers that my original LJ4 did.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (1)

bn557 (183935) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844722)

My LJ4+ dimms the lights in our entire house when it warms up.

This model has been deprecated (4, Informative)

Yonder Way (603108) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844538)

But check out the HL-5250DN which is the suggested replacement model.

Re:This model has been deprecated (3, Informative)

walt-sjc (145127) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844645)

I have the 5250DN.

It's not bad, but definatly more "plasticky" than my old 1270N. It also has no straight paper path option like the 1270 had so everything gets curled (envelopes and card stock are more difficult.) Heavy card stock (postcard) does not work. Envelope's get creased. It looks like you should be able to get the paper out the back, but it's got a sensor I couldn't find that prohibits this.

The front "multi-media" tray works well, but occasionally pulls mupltiple pages in at the same time.

I've run about 6000 pages through it now (on my second toner) and it works well. The starter toner only gets you about 2000 pages (max.)

Duplexing is also on the slow side (which is typical on most duplexing printers.)

I look at this printer as being disposable. By the time it needs a drum, I'll just buy a new printer.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (2, Interesting)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844574)

I second your recommendation, plus it has HTML administration/configuration, just type in the web (lan) address of the printer, and you are given a quasi-web site to change preferences and what not. Plus the toner is pretty cheap ($50) for a ton of pages. I can testify that it works well with Windows, OS X, and the latest Ubuntu pretty easily. Two years ago, it was harder to install for Ubuntu, so I'm not quite sure if Ubuntu improved in this respect, or if the driver got better.

For anyone looking for a color laser, I also got an Epson AL-CX11NF a year back (Color Copier Scan Fax multi-function) and aside some initial misgivings, it works great. The toner is more expensive than black/white so it wouldn't be a good main copier as the Brother, but the color prints are very nice, scanning function is great, copying and scanning are flawless too - it's up there at 600-800 bucks, but it replaces several machines and functions much better than I expected for a multifunction (I had some experience with really crappy Lexar multifunctions, you get what you pay for). The only complaint is while most OSes can print to it, it seems only Windows can take full advantage of its remote network scanning capabilities.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (1)

petard (117521) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844608)

Two years ago, it was harder to install for Ubuntu, so I'm not quite sure if Ubuntu improved in this respect, or if the driver got better.


I'm not sure either, but the only "hoop" I jumped through for Ubuntu (about a year ago) was copying the .ppd file from the brother CD over and pointing CUPS at it. Maybe it's just been too long, but IIRC it was easy and the whole setup process took about 5 minutes.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15844705)

I've got the 5250DN which is the newer version of yours.

It works great, and the duplexing is cool (the reason I got it, to print out my science papers at home).

The only issue that people should be aware of, is that like all the laser printers in this price range, there is a slight problem with paper curl. It isn't huge, but the printed paper definitely doesn't come out flat, though it flattens itself out over time. It just means if you are printing for some report or presentation, that you might want to find a way to flatten paper fast :)

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (1)

ToteAdler (631239) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844779)

I'll nth this suggestion (don't know what were on now). I don't know what version I have (It's at my apartment a few states away) but its a Brother - Network Ready version, picked it up at Staples on sale, worked right away with my Mac and only took a little bit of fiddling with my roommate's Suse-box (It may not have even been anything with the printer he's always tweaking something which kills something else but anyways..) We connected it to our wireless router and it works great, printing wirelessly is a good deal.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (1)

foom (29095) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844805)

I concur with the Brother recommendation. I recently bought a Brother DCP-8065DN fax/copy/scan/printer. It has postscript, ethernet interface, input and output duplexer and cost around $500. I've been very impressed by its features, driver software that actually works on OSX, and print speed. This printer even supports IPv6, which I'm sure _every_ slashdotter uses on their networks, since it's been around for more than 10 years by now. :)

I'd avoid HP, unfortunately -- from what I've heard, their consumer-level printers these days are disposable crap. Seems a shame to tarnish their brand like that, since they do make good high end printers.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (4, Informative)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844879)

The brother is a good suggestion, but doesn't this topic sound a little 1999? A laser printer that is "network-able, under $300, and produce decent graphics" isn't hard to find, especially if you don't mind using a cheap netgear print server [google.com] , then there's a ton of laser printers for under $100 [google.com] that will fit the rest of the requirements, and if you don't mind refilling the toner yourself you can buy toner refills for less than $15 for almost any laser printer [google.com] .

Oh, and if you don't want to go through all that you can just jump to Networkable laser printers for under $300 in froogle [google.com] . Every printer company has one for under $300 listed with froogle, I see the Lexmark, Samsung, Brother, HP...

I don't mean to flame but I don't see how anyone can spend more than 5 minutes looking for a laser printer and not find a laser printer that is "network-able, under $300, and produce decent graphics".

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (1)

Amazing Quantum Man (458715) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844906)

I can vouch for this model as well. It's a good buy.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (1)

smbarbour (893880) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845064)

I can vouch for the capability of Brother equipment. My wife and I work at a company, I have an Brother HL-1440 laser printer at my desk, while my wife has the Brother fax machine for the department at her disposal. Although it is not one of the MFC branded machines, it is connected to her computer providing both printing AND scanning (with an ADF to boot!)

I would describe my printing volume as moderate (and we are using the high-yield toner cartridges), but the "toner low" indicator has been blinking at me since January. If anything, the print has gotten slightly darker.

Unlike HP models, the toner and drum are sold separately, so costs are a little less than an all-in-one toner "module". A Brother laser printer will serve the printing needs of a small group very well.

Re:I like the Brother HL-5170DN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15845262)

Also confirming this. It looks to be a solid workgroup printer with secondary tray for large print jobs. Good resolution, Postscript compatibility, decent toner cartridge life vs. price, inexpensive, easily networked. I can print to mine from Linux and Windows, and it even duplexes. No troubles yet, I've been using this one for about 18 months or so.

HP LaserJet 4P (4, Informative)

Hikaru79 (832891) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844456)

I'm not sure how easy it would be to still find one of these, but I've had a LaserJet 4P since I was around grade 6 (about 6 or 7 years ago), and it has never failed me yet. It's a cheap, black-and-white laserjet with all of the features you request. And I can personally attest to it's printing quality. I've had it for so long, and it's never broken down or had any real problems. I also network it just fine -- it's currently connected to my LinkSys wireless printerserver.

I don't really have anything to compare its toner usage with, but I have no complaints in that department either. Overall, a great deal.

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (1)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844467)

i got one around a year ago at my local computer recycling center for around $100. i still haven't changed the toner! watch out though... the lights dim when i turn it on...

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (3, Informative)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844804)

i got one around a year ago at my local computer recycling center for around $100. i still haven't changed the toner! watch out though... the lights dim when i turn it on...

Go for an LJ5 (or 5P if you like the smaller size); a little more than an LJ4, but many parts are compatible and has a low power mode.

I've got an LJ4 with PS and networking, only problem is that the humidity here messes up the toner, unless I leave it powered on all the time in Summer, which is a drag as it draws about 50W when idle, still cheaper than getting a "new" printer though.

I had an HP4LM fopr several years, small, light, 4 ppm, PostScript, but only 50 pages in the tray and sometimes I had to yank out jammed pages. But was at 40,000 pages and still fine when I left it.

One great advantage of older HPs is that you can get very cheap, quality toner refills or compatible cartridges.

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (1)

moosehooey (953907) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844475)

I've had a LaserJet 4 about 10 years, still works great. You can get 'em on ebay for about 100 bucks, and the network card thing for like 40-50 more.

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (2, Insightful)

Zzootnik (179922) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844619)

I'll second the "Hooray for HP Laser Printers". They really do "Just work"(tm) pretty much forever. And to beat all that, I've found scads of them at my local university Surplus store for between 20-50 bucks. Every time a friend needs a printer, I usually jusy give them the one I'm using and go pick up another one. My Current one is an HP 4000TN (with 2 paper trays) that I got for $30.00. Jetdirect card was even still intact. For some reason they couldn't find a really deep-seated piece of Paper Jam (jelly?) that I was able to pull out of it. Had someones Personal med info on it too, oddly-

In any case--- University Surplus stores rock for the basics. Used for sure, But I really haven't seen one of these completely worn out. At MOST, I think a maintenance kit would fix any problems I've seen. Mostly they're just a few years old and whatever department wanted a new one, I guess-

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (1)

martinultima (832468) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844691)

I've right now got a used HP LaserJet 4 Plus that my friend gave me – he had two of them, so he kept one and let me have the other – haven't used it that much because it's missing a back panel, I had to jam the little lever with a folded PCI slot cover, but it's worked great when I've needed it – very fast, and definitely indestructible. (For that matter, I still use my original-model HP DeskJet as well; not exactly a speed demon, but it's literally older than I am and still works just fine, despite my best efforts... kind of wishing their newer printers were built that well, my DeskJet 540 didn't even last a whole decade... ;-)

Anyway, to get back on topic, definitely second [third, whatever] the HP suggestion – just make sure it has a back panel, otherwise expect to spend a lot of time behind the thing to pick up your printouts...

NO NO NO -- Get a 4+ instead! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15844706)

When you're looking at old HPs, DO NOT go for the 4P, 5P, 6P, or any such models. The 'P' stands for 'Personal,' which translates to 'junk.' The 4P was probably the best of the lot, but the 5P and 6P had serious issues.

Instead, go for a 4+ or better model. The 4+ and 5 series are based off the same engine, a Canon, and they're bloody workhorses. You seriously can't kill these things unless you really try. They're rated for 30,000 pages per month -- 1000 pages per day -- which, while it may be overkill for you (if there were any such thing), just attests to their superior build quality.

I have a 5M here I got for $50 (including local pickup) off EBay, and that included a 500-sheet third tray, duplexer, and crappy off-brand toner cartridge that I need to replace. Which I will when it dies (I am, after all, cheap). Yeah, the lights do dim when it comes on, and I had to replace the network card -- but it's hard to beat getting a tank of a printer for $50.

Beg to differ about the 4p... (1)

MsGeek (162936) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844762)

It's been a sweet little printer...never gave me trouble unless I used a leaky refilled cartridge. It doesn't draw as much current as the others in Gen 4 and is surprisingly light. Got it off eBay for $25 and cartridges on eBay run about the same. I think there is an LaserWriter that is identical to it except for the Appletalk interface. It's not a tank, it's a mini-tank. An SUV of a printer, if you will.

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (1)

audacity242 (324061) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844715)

My HP LaserJet 4L is still kicking after a good thirteen years or so.

Of course, one time we did have a problem. My cat chewed through the cable.

The thing is a tank. I will give it up when it is pried from my cold dead hands.

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (2, Funny)

Cylix (55374) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844867)

I find your terms acceptable. ;)

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (1)

j1m+5n0w (749199) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844753)

I picked one of those up at a garage sale recently; I suspect its probably a decade old or so, and will probably still work a decade hence if I don't bother to replace it with something smaller and faster. It currently shares the living room with a record player, an Atari 2600, a mechanical mantle clock, and a number of other more modern and less interesting devices.

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (1)

UncleFluffy (164860) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845299)

Yes. The best value for money in laser printers is a single-digit HP Laserjet off of eBay. Most printers made since then are fragile pieces of plastic crap, and the parts+toner for these are still easily (and cheaply) available. I'm running a 4+ and have had no complaints in years. Do *not* buy a new laser printer, get an old HP off of eBay and spend the price difference getting very drunk.

Re:HP LaserJet 4P (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15845358)

Yay to that. I ran a LaserJet 4L for ten years before finally replacing it with a colour LaserJet that just isn't as nice. In particular the 4L would power down itself while my colour LaserJet trundles away all night if I forget to switch it off.

I only ever bought one toner refill in ten years and I used the printer a lot.

Sadly they do die after a decade or so ;(

Dell 1710n (2, Informative)

dduardo (592868) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844460)

How about theDell 1710n [dell.com] ? It is $299, networked and does 27 pages per minute.

Re:Dell 1710n (1)

imemyself (757318) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844496)

I second that. I have a Dell 1700 (non-'n' but I share it via IPP from my server) and I really love it. Its *very* fast (25 ppm, and it really prints that fast), and was only $200. At my school, they have some of the 1700n's and the 1710n's. They seem to work pretty well there too. If you can just share it from a computer you could save a hundred, and not buy the 'n' version. Dell provides drivers for Linux, but you don't need them - just using the generic PCL6 drivers work fine. Same story for OS X, though Dell may not provide official drivesr. Really makes you wonder why MS doesn't ship Windows with generic PS and PCL drivers.

As far as toner usage goes, I've had mine for about a year and a half and only finished off the toner that it shipped with four or five months ago. I think it was a 3,000 page toner. I think the 8,000-ish page toner that I bought as a replacement only cost $90 or so. I've not had any problems with it really, atleast any that weren't due to the server I access it through. The only complaint I might have is that my 1700 could use a little more memory. Somtimes it takes a minute or two for it to start printing if the document is rather large. I don't think the memory for them is that expensive though, so if that becomes a problem for you, you can add some more memory for not too much money.

Brother HL-2070N... (4, Informative)

TeckWrek (220789) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844473)

...USB Ethernet 20PPM Laser Printer ~ $170.
It definately meets the networking and proce requriments. The only one in question is 'decent graphics', but that is subjective! and you know best.

        * Up to 20 pages per minute
        * HQ1200 resolution (up to 2400x600dpi)
        * 250-sheet input capacity and manual by-pass slot for letterhead and envelopes
        * USB 2.0 and Parallel interfaces1
        * Windows® and Mac® compatible
        * One-year limited warranty
        * 16MB memory standard
        * PCL®6 emulation standard
        * Built-in 10/100 BaseT Ethernet
        * Network Interface

Re:Brother HL-2070N... (1)

dn15 (735502) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845162)

I was about to recommend this model, but I'll second your comment. We have one of these at home and I love it. As you mentioned, the graphics part is subjective, but it's networked, not very big, and reasonably fast. And it comes at a pretty low price for what you get. I have seen them as low at $150.

HP 2600n maybe (4, Informative)

alshithead (981606) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844476)

It's just around your price and prints like a champ...color too. I'm using it at home to print tri-folds for my wife's business and the price per hard copy isn't bad. We print several thousand tri-folds per month and only have to replace the black cartridge on a regular basis. I have it hooked to a Linksys wireless print server so we can print from anywhere in the house. We've already gotten our money out of so if it dies tomorrow I may just buy another instead of having it repaired. Can't beat HP laser printers as far as I'm concerned. The 4000 series is great for just black and white but somewhat more expensive. I've watched them at work, at work, for years.

Re:HP 2600n maybe (1)

compupc1 (138208) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844508)

The 2605dn is a slight upgrade to the 2600. It goes faster and does duplex printing. I recently purchased one at Office Depot and am very happy with it. If you can just wait a bit for a sale, you can probably get a good deal on it.

Re:HP 2600n maybe (1)

alshithead (981606) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844560)

That's kinda why I suggested the 2600n. It's now an "old" model so it's closer to the price point. They're on sale everywhere.

Re:HP 2600n maybe (1)

cerberusss (660701) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844726)

If you print several thousand tri-folds, isn't it cheaper to take them to a professional printshop?

Re:HP 2600n maybe (2, Informative)

Afrosheen (42464) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844803)

I guess you haven't been to a print shop lately. They're all rapeage when it comes to card stock and anything semi-professional, which seems like what this guy is using it for.

Re:HP 2600n maybe (3, Informative)

grotgrot (451123) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844983)

The 2600n uses a proprietary protocol. The Windows drivers give very good output. The Mac drivers have worse colour rendering. The only Linux drivers are at http://foo2hp.rkkda.com/ [rkkda.com] and have poor colour rendering (as the page also states). Also read his comment about how much assistance HP provided. Somewhat uniquely the printer does ship with full cartridges and the printer is cheaper than the price of the 4 cartridges!

There is a new 2605 that has Postscript and PCL but is out of the OP's price range. My local Costco has had it recently.

Re:HP 2600n maybe (1)

vistic (556838) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845387)

I just bought a Dell 3100cn color laser printer for about $320 through dell.com, and all the reviews I could find ranked it higher than this HP model.

It is fully networkable and has PCL and PS support... it's great because now I can finally print from just about ANY operating system using LPD.

It also comes set with toner cartridges that should be good for 4000 prints.

HP LaserJet 1320 (1)

ta0 (81152) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844477)

I've had my HP LaserJet 1200 for several years, and it's super. I have it running off of a cheap D-Link wired printserver. HP doesn't make that exact printer anymore, but the LaserJet 1320 is currently $269 at Newegg.

Re:HP LaserJet 1320 (1)

Usquebaugh (230216) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844739)

I have one of these on my desk at work. Just seems to work. Although I'm a light user, maybe two reams a year.

Re:HP LaserJet 1320 (1)

CerebusUS (21051) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844808)

I agree with this. for relatively low usage they are superb, and we bought one for a couple of CxOs to share as well. Duplexing out of the box means you save on paper, and since it's PS and PCL6 print drivers are readily available for all major OS's

Re:HP LaserJet 1320 (1)

whereiseljefe (753425) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844872)

I got that little printer (I posted down below). I love it. It's not my Dad's 5100 dtn but dammit it does everything I need it to do.

How about any of these? (2, Insightful)

PyroMosh (287149) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844479)

"Good on toner" and "good graphics" are relativly subjective terms. Can you be more specific?

As for networkable mono laser, most of the first page of this link [bestbuybusiness.com] qualifies.

Depends on how you want to use it. (1)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844502)

for instance, would you be needing a black and white laser printer to proofread ads? (very obscure joke)

Re:Depends on how you want to use it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15844670)

Obscure enough to make it a stupid comment.

Heh, the captcha word for my comment is "nonsense". How fitting.

grain of salt (3, Informative)

Macgrrl (762836) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844503)

I used to do this for a living, but not in the US market.

You haven't mentioned how many pages you expect to produce per week/month/year, which makes this a little tricky.

Ideally you need to look at the expected usable life for the device (for corporate use 5 years, personal use maybe up to 10 years), does the device require a maintenance kit, what is the device lifetime duty cycle and what is the cost/yeild of the toner cartirdge.

Additionally, do you print a lot of postscript or PDFs, and is speed an issue?

The cost per page calcualtion is basically: ((purchase cost of the device / lifetime pages printed)+(cost of tomer cart/yield)+(cost of maintenance kit/yield))

Kyocera make good quality low TCO (total cost of ownership)laser printers - but I haven't found them to be especially durable in high volume applications.

The HP 4xxx series are generally good entry level workgroup printers, reliable and well supported.

If speed or large PDFs are a requirement, you may want to consider a memory upgrade or postscript kit. Remember that when they quote pages per minute - that is the speed per page for additional copies of the same page (engine speed) once the first instance has been processed (first page out).

Re:grain of salt (2, Informative)

Macgrrl (762836) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844543)

Addendum

Most manufacturers publish the cartridge yields for their toner carts - you may have to ferret around to find the value. Most manufacturers quote in terms of 5% coverage of a 8" x10" page.

Internal testing where I work has indicated that for a fairly standard basket of typical office documents, the average page coverage is closer to 7.5% of an A4 page (located in Australia), which is nearly twice the area fo the manufacturers quoted coverage - meaning the cartridges last half the number of pages.

If you are printing a lot of graphics, they will typically have much higher page coverage than a page of text - this coverage may go up to 20-50% coverage.

For good graphics performance, look at how many levels of greyscale can they emulate, and whether they can do some varient on fine print - allowing the software to distort/locate the dot in the greyscale render to permit shart edges on fonts and curves. It increases the subjective resolution of the device with increasing the actual resolution of the device. 600dpi is pretty standard for office applications, 1200dpi is common on engines used in the graphic design market.

Re:grain of salt (1)

walt-sjc (145127) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844655)

Way out of the price range, but I do like the Xerox printers. Very fast first-page-out times, and fast print times in general. HP's got VERY cheesy recently (but they are less expensive too.)

Re:grain of salt (1)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844782)

Way out of the price range, but I do like the Xerox printers.
Avoid Xerox like the plague. Good printers, but horrible service. At $ORKPLACE-2, we had rented a $2500 per month 11x17 duplex collator/stapling copier/scanner combination monster, and it took ***SIX WEEKS*** to have someone come and "install" it properly (I had to do it myself, guessing at the settings and whatnot).

Calling Xerox, it was **IMPOSSIBLE** to get to talk to anyone who would know how to setup the printer (it didn't work 100%). When I eventually got to talk to someone, he was on his cellphone, driving away from the city for an extra week.

Then, after those six weeks, a tech showed-up, only to tell us that he didn't know this printer. Four days later, a (presumably) more knowledgeable tech shows up, fiddles a bit, then says that he has to upgrade the motherboard. 3 week wait (the printer is still not working properly), then they show up. It's a 6 hour job, 6 hours where we don't have a copier. Of course, the firmware upgrade disk to go with the new hardware was not the right one. He came back a week later, a whole week with an even more wobblier printer.

Then the bill came. $5000 for two months of hassle and trouble. We told Xerox that we would not pay, and if they pursued it, they were welcome to take their fucking printer back.

It actually took a VP of sales to come up and solve the problem.

Re:grain of salt (1)

Macgrrl (762836) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845018)

While I will accept this happened to you, I would suggest this was atypical.

As a disclaimer, I work for FXA (Fuji Xerox Australia), and am aware of us routinely installing hundreds of machines on client sites without the issues you are describing.

Re:grain of salt (1)

Macgrrl (762836) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845027)

I like Xerox printers too[1] - but if you read I recommended Kyocera, who are not Xerox and are quite cheap. :)

[1] I work for Xerox, and the next printer I buy will probably be a Xerox. They do not currently make entry level laser printers - only serious workgroup printers. My current laser printer is an Apple Laserwriter 4/600 PS and is over 10 years old.

Networkable is the catch (2, Interesting)

caseih (160668) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844509)

There are many laser printers under $300. Samsung makes a few fairly nice ones. But networkable, that's another story. Probably your best bet is a USB printer supported by linux and then stick CUPs on a Linksys 54GSL or whatever it's called (the wireless router with USB support).

Although toner is very expensive, you can get a decent full-color laser for about $300-600. The HP Laserjet 2600n. See http://www.nextag.com/hp-2600n/search-html [nextag.com] . The n designation means it comes with jetdirect too. The only downside is the printer language is not PCL or PS, but there is a CUPS driver for linux available. The extra money for color may be worth the extra couple of hundred.

As for myself, I have an old Okidata 10ex LED printer that is parallel only. I use a USB-Parallel adapter and plug it into my linux box (cups server) with the USB. The linux box shares it to windows and linux clients. I recently upgraded the RAM to 32 MB, so it should be able ot handle anything I throw at it for years to come, even if I have to wait a while for the pages to spit out. Toner is separate from the drum, so it's dirt cheap to fill. I recently bought a new drum for it for $60. This printer has been one of my best computer investments.

Yeah, what's run with CUPS? (1)

kuitang (904572) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844745)

Under $300 finding a networkable printer is very difficult. Besides, you'll have to have some sort of scheduler for that anyways. I have a Samsung ML-2250, costs $150, pretty cheap toner, and great quality, even on toner save mode. I hook the USB to my Samba server and after working out the kinks with Windows drivers, I'd say it's even better than direct networking given the control I get from all jobs coming to one server. Also, it frees a potentially valuable ethernet port!

Re:Networkable is the catch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15844969)

I had a bad experience with an Okidata printer. After around 2000 pages it couldn't print solid black anymore, and there were specks and lines all over the page.

I like my new (and cheap!) HP LaserJet 1020 -- but it hasn't seen that kind of volume yet. There's a network version of this printer.

Re:Networkable is the catch (1)

Grab (126025) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845465)

I second the Samsung option. The cheapest Samsung over in the UK is £80 (so around $150) although it's often on offer - a friend got one for £40 last year.

For "networkable" though, just find an old 486 and hook it up as a print server. People are practically throwing them away, so check Ebay, MicroMart in the UK (I presume there's a US equivalent), or anywhere else likely to do them. If it costs more than £20 ($30) then you've been ripped off.

Graham.

does it *need* a network interface? (1)

holden caufield (111364) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844514)

I don't have a specific printer recommendation, but if there's one you've found whose only downside is a lack of a network interface, couldn't you just share the printer from a computer?

HP Laserjet 1022n (2, Informative)

Pathway (2111) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844533)

You have lots of options, but I must put my vote in for the HP Laserjet 1022n.

All the B&W laser printers in this price range have about the same features. Resolutions, price, peformance... they are all about equal.

But the HP works with everything... Except I must warn you it doesn't work with Mac OS 9 or earlier.

Check out your options... If you're like me, you'll find that a good brand name and support are worth a lot.

--Pathway

Re:HP Laserjet 1022n (1)

smr2x (266420) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844965)

But the HP works with everything... Except I must warn you it doesn't work with Mac OS 9 or earlier.


So... it works with everything, but not any version of Mac OS less than 9?

Sure...

Re:HP Laserjet 1022n (1)

Pathway (2111) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845087)

Okay, almost everything.

The Dells don't work with Apples at all, unless you buy an expensive networking option. Nor with linux. The only support they have is for windows.

Also, the Dell doesn't have magnetic ink avalible. Not necessary for everybody, but for those who want to print checks... this is a very useful feature.

Do you have a suggestion, or just mearly trolling?

--Pathway

Re:HP Laserjet 1022n (1)

Wise Dragon (71071) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845005)

I have the non-networked 1022 and I love it.

Pick up an older laser (3, Informative)

mattkime (8466) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844541)

I'm really not sure what your graphics requirements are on a laser printer as its their weak point. However, there are older laser printers that do a wonderful job and cost nearly nothing - to buy and operate. The HP 5 line is particularly known for being a solid and reliable piece of equipment. Further, they're easy to maintain and buy parts for. Apple's LaserWriter line is based on 3rd party engines that are frequently very reliable and easy to service. Find one locally so you don't have to pay ridiculous shipping fees. Many people get rid of these older machines "upgrading" to a newer, more expensive and less reliable model.

Re:Pick up an older laser (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844673)

Yup - my LaserJet 5L laster for over 9 years before I finally replaced it "just because". I put a bit sign on it that said "works great" when I put it in the Salvation Army pile...

"Just because" it was 4ppm and I picked up a 20ppm Konica for $50 on the new year's sales.

My HP 5L was working fine - I had replaced the pinch rollers once (they were multi-grabbing), and had to re-solder the AC socket to the circuit board once (too much wear and tear on the socket - no On/Off switch). But 9 years on one printer seems solid to me.

That said, modern HP printers seem to have WAY too much suplerfluous software now-a-days. Always asking about updates, phoning home for updates, making themself the default printer, etc...

I used to be an HP "works-for-sure" guy too... but now I will shop around. I have an HP, Konica, Oki, and a NEC printer. The HP has obnoxious software, the NEC sometimes crashes on Win2K, mostly printing from the web. I hear nice things about canon, if you need a color inkjet.

Konica Minolta (2, Interesting)

metamatic (202216) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844545)

Spend an extra $100 or so and get a Minolta 2430DL. Networkable with Bonjour/Zeroconf support, photo quality color (i.e. output like a glossy magazine), drivers for Linux, toner is affordable. I love ours.

Buy used with a network adapter or server (3, Insightful)

WidescreenFreak (830043) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844551)

My recommendation: find someplace that sells (and services) used printers. There is no need to go with a new printer unless you really want to or are lulled into a false sense of security because of having a sealed box.

I have a friend who deals in government surplus and he can just about repair laser printers with his eyes closed. I got a used LaserJet 5 with duplex unit and additional paper tray from him, and it's never given me a problem even though I've printed thousands upon thousands of pages on it. The LaserJet 5 printers are the pre-Carly printers, when HP actually made quality products. The damn things can take just about any beating you can throw at it.

That and my HP DeskJet 970cxi are on my home network via a Microplex print server (LPR/LPD-based) that can support two parallel and two serial printers. By installing the LPR software that comes with Windows XP (but has to be installed manually) and the drivers from HP's site (because the built-in Windows drivers lack a lot of good features), I have all of the PCs in my house printing to both of these printers. Because the server unit is LPR/LPD based (and uses a lot of UNIX sommands like lpstat), I can print to it from my Sun workstations if I install a PostScript cartridge in my LaserJet, and SimplyMEPIS Linux prints to both of them without any problems.

The only thing that I question is your requirement that it prints "decent graphics". Anything with 600dpi or above can print decent graphics. But since I can't determine what you mean by that or why you have such a requirement, I can't say for certain that something like an LJ5 would be good. Just don't go lower. The LJ4 was good, but everything below was 300dpi. MAJOR difference in graphics quality!

If you want to buy a new printer because of a warranty, that's fine, but I have to recommend that you find a good-condition HP from the days when HP stood for "quality printers", unlike today where it seems to stand for "ink and toner supplier". Linksys and other companies sell network server boxes, too. Hell, even an old PC can do that if you want. You don't have to have a network-ready printer in order to print on a network.

Re:Buy used with a network adapter or server (1)

toddestan (632714) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844636)

I agree, buy used. A while back I spent about $75 for a used HP Laserjet 4+ with a 10mbps ethernet adaptor in it and it even came with a toner cartridge. So far, a few thousand trouble free pages out of it, and I haven't even had to replace the already used toner cartridge I got with it (though it has be getting low by now). A Laserjet 5 series will probably run you about $150 or more, but is still a good deal if it can do what you want it to do.

A good place to look is someplace that deals with retired office equipment, such as RetroBox [retrobox.com] - though I suggest trying to find a local source, as old Laserjets are built like tanks and shipping them can get very expensive.

Samsung ML2550 + Netgear Print server (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15844553)

Well, that's what I use. Bought them a few years ago, printer around $250 and print server about $80, I think. I guess you'll find the prices even lower now.

Has been working great for me. Good print quality with plenty of memory, fast speed, good paper handling mechanics, does duplex printing, and the main tray holds whole bale of paper (500 sheets). Toner is about $100, and lasts a pretty good while. The print server works simply and easily with both Windows and Linux.

HP LaserJet 2600n (1)

Not Anonymous Coward (993086) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844554)

HP LaserJet 2600n [hp.com] It is color, but once you go color laser, you have very little use for Color Inkjet (other than occassional photo paper printing). It has network ability. The included toner does last for about 1000-1500 pages, and for the most part, I'm satisfied with the print quality. However, I'm very suspect of its color matching abilities, but then again, this printer I don't think is certifed for such... Fairly fast to boot to (about 5-6 seconds for first page). Despite its MSRP of $399, it can be occassionally had for $350-$299 if you look hard enough. OfficeDepot do have these guys on sale occassionally.

Techbargains.com (1)

QuantumFTL (197300) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844564)

I tell everyone I know to check out techbargains.com [techbargains.com] . A quick search there revealed:

Samsung Black-and-White Laser Printer [bestbuy.com] for $60, not a bad deal, but I don't have any experience with Samsung laser printers, so who knows how good it is.

Here's another [techbargains.com] by Konica.

Re:Techbargains.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15844674)

Remember that he also wants it networked, so through in another $30 for a printer server.

Samsungs rock (1)

QuasiEvil (74356) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844917)

I have two Samsung ML-1740s, and am thrilled with both of them. Cheap (one was $120 new, the other $100 when I purchased it later), advertises Linux support on the box and it actually does work like a charm. I eventually put one on my fileserver box, which makes a network printer, but my dad's is attached to his network via a $35 DLink network print server. Again, works like a charm. Not terribly fast, but it is cheap, reliable, very low power when idled, and does a nice job printing.

Cost per page (1)

BlackMesaLabs (893043) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844571)

Cost per page should be more important than initial purchase cost.

You can get a refurbished/or possibly new HP4050, and with compatible 10,000 page cartridge, you get about $0.017 per page. The machine itself is approx $300. Holds 600 sheets by default.

Mind you, this is all Australian dollars.

Best Buy/CompUSA not hacking it? (3, Informative)

rnelsonee (98732) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844586)

I just picked up a Samsunb ML-2010 for $60 at Best Buy. It's mono (like you, I also have a color inkjet I can use if I need color), but c'mon, $60! And no rebate forms to fill out - the price is $60 at the register. It's light on features, but it does have a toner saver option, so an $80 toner cartridge gets you 5,000 pages. The toner that comes with it is rated for 1,000 pages with the 40% "Toner Saver" option turned off.

Re:Best Buy/CompUSA not hacking it? (1)

Millenniumman (924859) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844678)

With your pages/toner and ebay's prices($30 printer; $10 toner; 5000 pages/toner;), it looks like $100 buys you about 40,000 pages. I just looked up the same for a cheap inkjet (slower, but color capable) and it was about 43,000. ($20 printer; $10/12 cartridges; 450 pages/cartridge;).

Re:Best Buy/CompUSA not hacking it? (2, Informative)

SoCalChris (573049) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844961)

I've also got a Samsung laser printer. It's a few years old (Model ML-1710 I think). Not only is it an excellent printer, but the starter toner cartridge that came with the printer has a small, easy to remove plug on it to refill it. I bought a $15 toner refill kit at Sam's Club, and was able to fill it up. So far, it has lasted a few years with moderate usage, and the toner is still pretty full. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Samsung printer based on my experience.

You can get a similar model for around $50 now, and I think they sell a network enabled one for $50-$100 more.

Linux Support (1)

BobNET (119675) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844596)

I know you didn't specify the operating system, but given that this is Slashdot, people might want to know if their next printer will work under their OS of choice. A list of printers that work (and don't work) under Linux (and in most cases just about anywhere Ghostscript will run) can be had at http://www.linuxprinting.org/ [linuxprinting.org] .

hp LaserJet 1320 (1)

ThinkingInBinary (899485) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844641)

I reviewed [mooo.com] the hp LaserJet 1320 on my web site. In short, it's cheap (maybe not under $300, but definitely under $400, and often discounted on Newegg [newegg.com] ), has awesome text quality and very good graphics quality, prints relatively quickly, duplexes (an uncommon feature in such a cheap printer!), and conserves toner (I haven't replaced the cartridge yet, in several years of use.

HP 2100TN (1)

hodagacz (948570) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844644)

I bought mine new in '99 and it is still going strong. I swear that thing is unkillable. You can pick one up used for around 150$ or so if you do some searching. Only two real problems. Toner and fuser are combined into one 95$ unit (good for about 10000 pages or so YMMV). No duplexer available.
Good things, Jetdirect, works flawlessly with all my boxen be they Win, Mac or Penguin. It's built like a tank. I can beam print jobs to its IR port from my Newton :).

HP LaserJet 5M with JetDirect card (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15844664)

I recently picked up a LaserJet 5M with a JetDirect ethernet card for $35. It prints great text and graphics, and has at least emulated PostScript. It's not a speed demon, but it's not slow either. Best of all, hundreds of thousands -- maybe millions -- of these same basic print engines were used by several companies over many, many, years so toner + spare parts are cheap and readily available.

The only consumable is toner (which has an integrated imaging drum so hidden costs for a $200 imaging unit every three toner cartridges!), but every couple hundred thousand pages expect to replace the fuser. The toner prints between 6000 and 8000 pages, and remanufactured cartridges, which are usually perfectly fine replacements for the OEM carts, are readily available for as little as $35 (same price as printer, which usually has at least one cartridge included). With some searching you could probably find perfectly fine cartridges for even less.

The printers themselves are 600 DPI, print at 12 pages per minute, are very well built, and with basic cleaning + a new fuser every three or four years will run almost forever.

And if it dies, you can sell the PostScript SIMM and JetDirect card for $20 on eBay - nearly recouping your initial investment!

Beats Me (4, Interesting)

sunset (182117) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844675)

I haven't shopped for a laser printer in 14 years because my LaserJet IIIP refuses to die. And yes, I use it every day.

Re:Beats Me (1)

whereiseljefe (753425) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844885)

Holy shit. We had that printer, I'm pretty sure it was a III... yeah, it was. It finally died ...2ish years ago and was replaced by a 5100 dtn my dad found at an office liquidation sale.

My dad would print materal for about 40 binders for scouts regularly, along with ass loads of flyers and such... Good memories.

Colour laser (2, Informative)

Schraegstrichpunkt (931443) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844727)

If you don't need a colour laser printer, don't get one. The black toner for colour laser printers (or at least for the ones I've seen) is terrible for text, because it's made to be just as glossy as the colour toners. The output is actually quite hard to read under ordinary lighting conditions.

Used HP4000 and cheap netgear server (1)

HotNeedleOfInquiry (598897) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844802)

Should come in at about $300. The HP4000 is, without a doubt the best departmental laserprinter ever built. They run and run and run, recharged toner cartridges are cheap and they can be overhauled by the user. Memory is also cheap. We have 250k plus on one of ours and it's still working like a champ.

Get a used small-office HP LJ-4xxx (2, Informative)

holviala (124278) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844866)

I bought an used HP LaserJet 4000 + ethernet module for EUR 120 a few years ago and it is the best printer I've ever used (much better and faster than the ones @ work). It prints the first paper in about 5 seconds (including warm-up), cardridge lasts forever in home use (years), supports PostScript for easy netcat printing (cups? bah!) and the feeder easily eats a whole pack of copier paper.

Why buy a new sucky one when you can get an slightly used office printer for less?

Search Ebay for 4000TN for prices.

Re:Get a used small-office HP LJ-4xxx (1)

Joska (78000) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844967)

I second the above motion. According to what a technician told me, the HP Laserjets from the HP4 up to the 4100 are magnificent machines. The newer ones are just good and only if you stick to the top models that don't use gravity feed. The significant factor if you are on a budget is that the 5, 4+ and 4 are now considered old and have almost no market value. The 5 has a duty cycle of 35,000 pages a month, which for many people means years of use, and for some of us, perhaps a lifetime (sigh...) Sure, rubber rollers age and parts for these deluxe machines are not cheap but replacing the whole thing at today's prices is no catastrophe and it will probably outlast most new printers anyway. Also, additional memory is essentially free since it is generic ram from now obsolete PCs. I've supplied these to many friends and they all still work flawlessly. BTW, the P models are for lighter duty use and the L is the despicable gravity-fed rubbish. Now go forth and print, brothers and sisters.

HP LaserJet 1320 (1)

whereiseljefe (753425) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844868)

I got this printer for my birthday a little while back, and I love this printer.

Fast as can be, small but beastly looking, nice good-high quality picture printing (I have done a few), very very very fast (first page out in around 8 seconds), and comes right up to your price range.

Complimentary NewEgg Link [newegg.com] (The exact one that I bought, and I did buy it through newegg)

That particular printer is USB and LPT, however it has a cousin or two floating around with an ethernet hookup if thats what you really want.

Recap: It's a fucking awesome printer!

Used Optra S (3, Interesting)

hirschma (187820) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844889)

I had a weirdo project where I needed to print 50,000 pages _quickly_. Hit eBay, and found a used Optra S 1855, plus duplexer, extra paper trays, network adapter _and_ toner for something like $300 plus shipping. Postscript, PCL, 1200dpi - it pretty much does it all. No issues printing from Linux. It even took memory that I had sitting in my junk drawer, helped speed things up a bit.

I printed the 50k pages using the crappiest, cheapest Staples brand paper around. It jammed just twice. Oh, and predates Lexmark's evil chipped carts. It thrives on cheapo refills (each of which has gotten like 20k pages). And duplexing is excellent, highly recommend it.

jh

HP LJ 1200N (1)

Tux2000 (523259) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844903)

I use an ugly HP LJ 1200N for my home office. The "N" indicates two things for this model: an external, ugly HP Jetdirect USB print server powered from an external power supply, and 16 MBytes RAM instead of 8 MBytes. I found that upgrading the RAM to 32 MBytes (ripped out of a dead LJ 8500) makes it a little bit more responsive. A refurbished 1200N would fit into your budget, at about $300 according to cnet. A new toner cartridge costs about $65 for 2500 pages, $80 for 3500 pages if you buy from HP, $40 or less if you use a 3rd party cartridge.

There is also a 1220 model with a scanner on top of the printer. HP has replaced the 1200 series with the 1300 series.

I know the HP LJ 4000 Series (4000N, 4050N, 4100N) from my former employeer, they are very reliable until someone tortures it with inkjet overhead transparancy films. Their big advantages over the 1200 are the build-in print server, a completely closed paper cartridge below the printer, a button to cancel a print job running amok, and they need less space on the table than the 1200, because of the paper cartridges and the build-in print server. After two or three years (several 10.000 pages), they needed a new kit of paper wheels, easy to swap and low cost. And once a year, someone came to clean the printers from paper and toner dust.

Whatever printer you buy, think about buying a printer with a Postscript interpreter. I can use my 1200 (with Postscript) from each and every computer I own, even without manufacturer-supplied drivers, simply because all of my computers are able to create Postscript output. Compare that with a "GDI printer", where the printer driver does the job of putting pixels onto the paper. If you have no driver, you can not print. Will Windows Vista include support for your GDI printer? Perhaps not. Will the printer manufacturer deliver a driver for Vista? Perhaps not. Will the old driver work with Vista? Perhaps not. Will the printer work with the next iteration of Windows? Perhaps not. Will Vista be able to generate Postscript? Yes. Will it work with my 1200? Yes. A related example: Windows 98 supported all features of the Soundblaster AWE32, Windows 2000 detects it as a Soundblaster 16, no AWE features available. Creative does not deliver a driver for Windows 2000, but recommends to replace a working device with a new device.

Tux2000

Second hand (2, Informative)

htnprm (176191) | more than 7 years ago | (#15844927)

I would highly recommend considering a second hand printer. By that I mean something like a printer that is ex-lease, and may have only been running for a few years. In New Zealand I'd source something like this from TradeMe [trademe.co.nz] . I guess in the US you might look somewhere like eBay [ebay.com] .

Remember. Reduce - Reuse - Recycle.

Samsung ML-2251N (1)

BenjyD (316700) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845111)

I recently replaced my crappy HP Laserjet 1000 with a Samsung ML-2251N and I've been very pleased with it. It's got an ethernet port, web configuration interface, Bonjour support and the output quality and speed are high. It seems to cost around $200 now.

Print Tracking (5, Informative)

Mendy (468439) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845127)

One which wasn't on http://www.eff.org/Privacy/printers/list.php [eff.org] would be my choice...

Re:Print Tracking (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845417)

You know what? You just prevented the sale of a $450 laser printer. I was seriously considering a new HP, but with that crap, no way.

I'm not even a 'privacy fanatic.' But some things just plain go too far. Especially if they don't tell you up front about them.

Kyocera FS-1010 (1)

Cinquero (174242) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845360)

Kyocera FS-1010. Definitely. Maybe there is a successor in the meantime.

Oki B4100 (1)

goodEvans (112958) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845400)

We have about 20+ Oki printers in the B4000 range (and it's predecessor, the 14ex). I usually pay about £131 for a B4250 [dabs.com] from Dabs.com [dabs.com] in the UK. This unit isn't networkable itself, but they also sell an own-brand print server [dabs.com] that plugs straight into the parallel port for another £23. So that's about £155, or $290, for a networked printer with low running costs - the toner cartridges [dabs.com] are also cheap, at £21, the only ongoing expense is a drum [dabs.com] every 150,000 pages, at about £119.

HP1100 is still running (1)

smchris (464899) | more than 7 years ago | (#15845476)


Two, actually. One used. Linux CUPS driver -- basically seems to be a "4" anyway. Running linux, it has been punished with many manuals of several hundred pages (manually) double-sided.

$39.95 print server at Microcenter. At least one recharge from every cartridge -- works well, takes about 5 minutes like they advertise, and reduces the per-page cost of these smaller "toaster" printers.
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