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Is the Xbox 360 Really Mom Friendly?

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the kid-tested-etc dept.

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Alex writes "Just prior to the XBOX 360's launch last November, in an interview with Primotech, Peter Moore boldly declared that someday "your mom would be playing the XBOX 360." In a twenty-page feature, we today put his words to the test, with a thorough investigation of how mom-friendly the 360, and videogaming in general, has become. The bigger picture: Has gaming finally reached the massive mainstream market?"

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not enough soap opera games (1)

krell (896769) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912123)

Not enough soap opera games for that!

Re:not enough soap opera games (2, Insightful)

westlake (615356) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912178)

Not enough soap opera games for that!

The Sims has been pure Soap Opera from day one.

Re:not enough soap opera games (1)

joystickgenie (913297) | more than 8 years ago | (#15914383)

well... there isnt a sims for the Xbox360 as of yet.

Re:not enough soap opera games (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Monkey (795756) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912458)

My mom would think soap opera games are lame, but if some one came out with an "Antiques Road Show" or "Appraise It" she would buy a 360 in a heart beat. On the other hand, we do have a game like that, and you get to use real money on. We call it "E-Bay" and mom is plays that game all the time.

Your Mom (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15912130)

"Just prior to the XBOX 360's launch last November, in an interview with Primotech, Peter Moore boldly declared that someday "your mom would be playing the XBOX 360."
Unfortunately, Peter Moore never quite fully grasped the fine art of "your mom" jokes.

definately not (2, Interesting)

silentace (992647) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912197)

yeah all those xboxs games out there with mom friendly written all over it... like ncaa, nfl, nhl, then about a million car and fighting games

Re:definately not (1)

bman08 (239376) | more than 8 years ago | (#15913279)

Those games are definitely not for my mom but Saint's Row should provide her the opportunities to both represent and smack ho's that she's been waiting for in a next gen system.

Re:definately not (1)

DeeDob (966086) | more than 8 years ago | (#15918122)

Nope, none of the titles you mentionned are "mom" friendly.

however, if we're talking about the 360 here, you have games like:

- Hardwood backgammon
- Hardwood Spades
- Hardwood Hearts
- Uno
- Billiards
- Bejeweled
- Hexic HD
- Zuma
- list goes on...

XBox Live Arcade is full of Mom friendly games.

PC gaming is the same. Hundreds of cards and board games on services like Yahoo, MSN and tons of Flash games.
Those arn't the games that "gamers" play, but people like "moms" play all the time. There is a market for them.

With the 360, for the first time, that market comes to consoles.

Re:definately not (1)

silentace (992647) | more than 8 years ago | (#15918257)

so what your saying is that the whole arguement here is correct. what you just said is mom is going to spend 400 dollars on a console to play a bunch of internet games that she could just play on a palm pilot or a pc.

Re:definately not (1)

DeeDob (966086) | more than 8 years ago | (#15920173)

You are extrapolating what i said.

My argument was limited to answering the following comment:
"yeah all those xboxs games out there with mom friendly written all over it..."

In that regard the comment was wrong. There are "mom friendly" games on the 360. They are mostly not located in retail outlets, but are available through the Live Arcade service.

As to if a "mom" is going to buy a 360 for herself for 400$ that she could play on a PC... (not talking about a Palm because i think she has even less chance than a 360 of buying that for gaming). I never said anything for or against.

What i will say is that while she is not going to buy a 360 for her personal use, once it came to choosing a console for her kids or giving an opinion to a console her husband/boyfriend might want, she might use her influence for going for the 360 instead of the competition because it has games she might want to play too (if she know they exist, there is a current lack of publicity about those 360 functionalities among the general mass. That is another debate).

Won't someone think of the children?! (1, Insightful)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912214)

What would kids do to rebel if mom was playing their video games? Go back to playing board games? Go outside and set more fires? Mom HAS to hate video games, or they will lose their largest audience -- kids who want to have something to do that differentiates them from their parents.

Re:Won't someone think of the children?! (1)

Saige (53303) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912381)

Makes me wonder how my kids (which I don't have any of yet) will take it when they've got a mother who not only plays video games, but beats them at it. But then again, they may enjoy it when they can invite their friends over, only to watch me beat them too. :)

Re:Won't someone think of the children?! (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912708)

my mom used to kick my ass on the NES..

Re:Won't someone think of the children?! (1)

AgentPaper (968688) | about 8 years ago | (#15926831)

There's nothing new about parents clobbering their kids in video games. My mom beat Metroid two months before I did, not to mention Tetris and Dr. Mario, and she used to regularly flatten the neighborhood kids in Super Mario Kart.

Quite possibly the worst thing I ever did was get Mom a DS. Four words: Mario Kart competitive multiplayer. If I had any gaming pride left before, it's gone now.

Re:Won't someone think of the children?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15916743)

My mom plays video games. Hell, she even has a console I don't own.

Xbox might not be friendly with your mom... (5, Funny)

RumGunner (457733) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912232)

but I am.

Ob Bill & Ted quote (0)

Provocateur (133110) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912422)

It's your mom, dude!

P.S.
Betcha never expected a quote from Bill & Ted, oh no, not here in these highbrow hallowed halls of Slashdot...

Re:Ob Bill & Ted quote (1)

cloricus (691063) | more than 8 years ago | (#15915515)

That is totally bodacious! Using Bill and Ted quotes on /. is just excelent! It should be a new meme with some rocking out! (ps...finding the correct spelling of 'bodacious' is one of the more complicated web search quests I've been on for awhile.)

Re:Ob Bill & Ted quote (1)

Shilkanni (803384) | about 8 years ago | (#15924715)

...and to think you nailed bodacious but tripped up on excellent!

Re:Ob Bill & Ted quote (1)

e7 (117450) | about 8 years ago | (#15924676)

Ted: Now you're dad's going for it. In your own room. Bill: Shut up Ted. Ted: Your step-mom is cute though. Bill: Shut up Ted. Ted: Remember when I asked her to the prom? Bill: SHUT UP TED!!

Re:Xbox might not be friendly with your mom... (0, Offtopic)

Comatosis (798554) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912461)

That was uncalled for, you should be modded as a Troll.

Re:Xbox might not be friendly with your mom... (1)

Winckle (870180) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912462)

Have I met you on Xbox live? Or perhaps on Counter Strike?

your mom (0, Troll)

AresTheImpaler (570208) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912237)

I know that your mom is very playful, but I doubt she likes to play videogames.

Moms are playing just now? (1)

discstickers (547062) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912239)

My mom played NES while I slept many years ago. She loved Zelda.

Re:Moms are playing just now? (1)

Dorceon (928997) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912271)

My mom really liked Tetris. I should get her a DS.

Re:Moms are playing just now? (1)

Babbster (107076) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912403)

Tetris was the reason I bought my mom a Gameboy (first version, a month after I bought mine and let her play it), a Gameboy Pocket, a Gameboy Color, a Gameboy Advance, an Afterburner kit for her Gameboy Advance (and mine, of course), and, most recently a DS. She's been playing more than just Tetris since the GBA and, in fact, I don't think she's put Tetris DS into her DS - she likes Metroid Prime Pinball, Meteos and Magnetica. :)

Re:Moms are playing just now? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15912417)

My mom and I used to play Super Mario Bros for the NES together when I was a kid. Just remember her kicking my ass. I used to have her beat the first couple of levels (I could Never get based the very second world, the underground one) so I could get on to more interesting things. Mom, you rock.

Re:Moms are playing just now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15912979)

Actually, she was roleplaying...Mr. Friendly we dubbed "Zelda" who was, each night, trying to "save the princess". Sorry for spoiling that memory.

Re:Moms are playing just now? (1)

Magnusite (526038) | more than 8 years ago | (#15913666)

My mom played NES while I slept many years ago. She loved Zelda.

Your mom wouldn't happen to be Sally Field [ew.com] would she?

Re:Moms are playing just now? (1)

Drakster (976032) | more than 8 years ago | (#15917516)

It was the same here when I was kid. Strange since both parents don't play anything other then Solitaire these days.

Re:Moms are playing just now? (1)

Chelloveck (14643) | more than 8 years ago | (#15918448)

My mom really loved Ladybug [mobygames.com] on my ColecoVision. She could easily whup me at it. Of course, she had all day to practice while I had this thing called 'school'...

How is this specific to the 360? (4, Insightful)

FlipmodePlaya (719010) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912244)

From the article:
"I dont consider myself a very tech savvy person. Heck, I still have trouble navigating my email. Yet I had no trouble hooking up the XBOX 360. A perfunctory glance at the included documentation was needed to verify a few points, but other than that, its nearly fool-proof."

Hasn't this been true of just about every console in history? If anything, the 360 is far more complex than previous consoles because it relies on a network connection for much of its functionality, and thus one more wire and one more point of failure. The article goes on to describe how the games are reasonably accessable...

"I found the controls in most titles to be too esoteric for me and I was just uncomfortable sitting in one place, holding a controller in my warm, tense hands. But over the course of time, I came to relax with the controller and master several of the controls in the games I attempted to play."

Again, things have only risen in complexity since the days of the NES and prior (not a bad thing, of course). If anything has brought gaming to the masses, it's marketing - certainly not any change in ease of use.

Re:How is this specific to the 360? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15912302)

"How is this specific to the 360?"

The marketing cash Microsoft is giving to Zonk to whore stories like this one trying to salvage 360 sales...

Re:How is this specific to the 360? (1)

badasscat (563442) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912697)

Again, things have only risen in complexity since the days of the NES and prior (not a bad thing, of course). If anything has brought gaming to the masses, it's marketing - certainly not any change in ease of use.

You apparently have never played the Nintendo DS, nor heard anything about its current market dominance (whether or not you believe it competes directly with the Xbox 360, it is nevertheless outselling it worldwide by a factor of about 10 to 1).

You've also apparently never heard of the upcoming Wii, which will compete more directly with the 360.

Of course, I would argue that portable systems do compete directly with home systems, in pretty much the same way laptop computers compete with desktop computers. So regardless, Nintendo is changing the way games are played, and that's the real subtext behind this article. MS is a lot of talk about making games more accessible; their competition is actually doing something about it.

Re:How is this specific to the 360? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15913057)

What? Were you trying to say that the Wii and DS are making strides in reducing complexity? They are/will be great fun to play, sure, and in some way they're maybe/possibly/sort of more intuitive... but less complex? I can't possibly imagine how five or six buttons AND all sorts of gyroscopic location/position/rotation/whatever detection AND a nunchuku can be construed as simpler... The DS is no better: an assortment of buttons PLUS a stylus, microphone, and second screen.

There's no shortage of commendations for the Wii and DS, but I don't think anyone else is arguing that they're simpler than the systems of yore. Nor would we want them to be...

Re:How is this specific to the 360? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#15917453)

By itself it sounds more complex but humans are complex as well. What confuses people is not the number of actions possible but how the interface works. Remembering which button does what. The Wii reduces the interface abstraction which makes it easier to understand. What's easier, "this button slashes, this stabs and this parries" or "this thing represents your sword, do as you please"? Many users are confused by what mouse button does what but noone asks if he needs to move the mouse up or down to move the cursor somewhere.

Also Nintendo has (at least with the home consoles) made some buttons look more important than others. The big green button on the GC is obviously the most important one, there could be hundreds of tiny buttons around it but the big green one commands attention. Of course this won't help with games that use all buttons on the controller but many don't and those are made easier by giving the buttons a clear hierarchy that leaves no questions about their importance. Having a starting point already helps creating understanding versus staring at a controller with many equally important looking buttons that are labelled with cryptic shapes (even if only one of them is used by the game).

Re:How is this specific to the 360? (1)

Shilkanni (803384) | about 8 years ago | (#15924755)

More buttons doesn't have to mean it's automatically more complex. You can have a more intuitive interface and some people seem to be suggesting that the DS games are 'simpler' I think there are joysticks out there which are more difficult to use than a keyboard with 104+ keys... part of that is that we're familiar with the keyboard, but an equally important part is that many of the keys have letters and numbers on them, things which we use outside of gaming. I'm not saying it has happened yet, but things like microphone, stylus, and motion detecting, definitely have the potential to make things even simpler than even D-pad, A, B.

360 Selling Worse Than The Xbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15912251)

Mom's most definitely didn't play the first Xbox.
The 360 is selling worse than the first Xbox - almost dead in two(Japan and Europe) of the three major regions

Same library of bald space marines in bumpy/shiny armor, racing games, pc games...

I think the answer is clearly No.

Re:360 Selling Worse Than The Xbox (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#15917463)

The Xbox at least did have its share of ported PC adventure games, of course no mom would use a 12 button, 2 sticks, 1 dpad controller for a game that works with a mouse, works on a computer without having to fight with the husband over the TV and costs less on the PC.

Re:360 Selling Worse Than The Xbox (1)

DeeDob (966086) | more than 8 years ago | (#15920758)

I think you're partly wrong and off-base in your arguments.

A mom would prefer a 12 button, 2 sticks, 1 dpad controller for a game BEFORE she would use a mouse / keyboard combo.

Most games on PC uses esoteric or complicated button configurations on the keyboard. The mouse / keyboard combo takes a longer time to get used to than anything that can be put on a modern controller.

If you're strictly talking about point and click adventure games, then yes. The PC versions might be better and more intuitive. Would a mom prefer that over console? Far from sure... I know a bunch of people who can't even get Myst to run on their PC because of hardware problems and complicated install procedures (yes having to press "next" a couple of times and a radio button to "agree to the license" can be messed-up by anyone that doesn't know computers. I know this first hand.).

The difference in controls difficulty for those kind of games (on consoles or PC) is minimal at best.

As for the title "360 selling worse than the xbox", that's biased and purposefully ignoring correct statistics to prove the opposite.
By that logic, i can also prove that DVD players were selling worse than VHS players when the DVDs first came out.
360 sale numbers will need to be compared with Wii and PS3 sales numbers, once they come out. Any other statistics is useless.

Another example is saying:
"PS2 is selling more than 360".
Trying to prove that the 360 is not good.
Well a 100$ PS2 with games available that are sold for less than 10$ is outselling a newer 360 at 400$ with games that are sold for 40$. It's obvious that the PS2 sells more just for the price only.
As i said, you need to compare consoles of a similar generation for sale numbers to mean anything.

Re:360 Selling Worse Than The Xbox (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#15921618)

I think that "The 360 is selling worse than the XBox!" bit was just the OMG-Dreamcast-360-all-hail-Sony troll we get regularly.

The difference in control difficulty is minimal to you but to a person who has never used a controller having to remember which mouse button clicks is much easier than remembering which console button does the same. Mostly because there's four face buttons on a controller and two on a mouse. One if you're using a Mac. Never mind that pointing is much more natural with a mouse than driving the cursor with a stick.

Dr Mario (2, Interesting)

Sir_Dill (218371) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912256)

My mother is completely hooked on Dr Mario.


We (my sister and I ) recently introduced her to the wonderful world of emulation....I get this phonecall from her one day because she can't figure out to play some strange platformer that my sister threw on there.....I made the comment about how I need to get her zelda or one of the other RPGs and she says "Yeah I am kind of interested in playing the warcraft game...." Go figure.



Interactive entertainment is where its at.

Mom Friendly? Only if she's a psychopath. (4, Insightful)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912258)

Maybe it's just me, but every commercial for an XBox 360 game ending in, "Rated M for Mature" might just be turning Mom off. I mean, I'm sure that deep-down she wants to go around disembowling alien creatures all day like Angela Landsbury, fly a spaceship like Mary Tyler Moore, and race in a demolition race like Dolly Parton, but she doesn't exactly advertise that fact. Methinks there might be just a smidge of a generation and gender barrier there.

</sarcasm>

Re:Mom Friendly? Only if she's a psychopath. (1)

spyrochaete (707033) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912328)

Didn't you see Microsoft's E3 keynote? k3wlm0m420 will be able to design snazzy t-shirts for zombies and sell them for Gamerpoints. What mom wouldn't love doing that?

Re:Mom Friendly? Only if she's a psychopath. (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912408)

k3wlm0m420 will be able to design snazzy t-shirts for zombies and sell them for Gamerpoints. What mom wouldn't love doing that?

Depends. Can she tie-dye them?

Re:Mom Friendly? Only if she's a psychopath. (0)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 8 years ago | (#15913796)

I don't know, she might enjoy any of the following:
Astropop
Bankshot Billiards 2
Bejeweled 2
BOMBERMAN Act:Zero
Burnout Revenge
Cloning Clyde
Crystal Quest
DEAD OR ALIVE 4
Enchanted Arms
Everyparty
Feeding Frenzy
FINAL FANTASY XI
Frogger
GALAGA
Gauntlet
Geometry Wars Evolved
Hardwood Backgammon
Hardwood Hearts
Hardwood Spades
Hexic HD
Jewel Quest
Joust
Just Cause
Kameo
King Kong
Marble Blast Ultra
Mutant Storm Reloaded
Oblivion
Outpost Kaloki X
PAC-MAN
Robotron: 2084
Rockstar Table Tennis
TGM ACE
Tomb Raider:Legend
Top Spin 2
UNO
Wik: Fable of Souls
Zuma

At least those are some of the Xbox 360 games that I've found to be appreciated by the fairer gender, including some other ones like Dead Rising depending on personality.

Re:Mom Friendly? Only if she's a psychopath. (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#15913871)

Most of the ones I've picked out that "Mom" would even find suitable, can be found on GameTap for a lot less than $400 + $70/yr + (Whatever Live! charges for the game.). Of those, the article already describes how much "Mom" hated several. (e.g. Uno, Marble Blast Ultra, Geometry Wars Evolved)

And WTF ever convinced you that "Mom" would want to play "Dead or Alive 4"? I mean, seriously?

Re:Mom Friendly? Only if she's a psychopath. (1)

joystickgenie (913297) | more than 8 years ago | (#15914462)

Wow, about 2or 3 of those are Xbox360 exclusive, and the ones that are I wouldn't say are all that mom friendly (I'm sure moms will love the soft body dynamics of DOA). You can easily find the majority of that list in much cheaper mediums, heck in many times free (legaly).

Larva.. (1)

Tracer_Bullet82 (766262) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912330)

Larva tested, puppa approved..

what..

We may never find out (1)

Hyram Graff (962405) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912342)

I'm not sure ... (Next page)

If the XBox ... (Next page)

[obscured by google ads] (Next page)

Mom friendly. (Next page)

Ok, the article had pretty pictures and all that snazzy magazine feel, but why must I click click through twenty, ad-filled, pages to read all of your poorly formatted content. On top of that, for several of the pages my Firefox browser rendered the ads in front of the article text. If there is anything more annoying then having to needlessly click through several pages to read your content it's not being able to read the content once I get to the page because your ads are obscuring it.

Re:We may never find out (2, Insightful)

nuntius (92696) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912443)

You're running firefox *without* adblock? You're missing half the fun. It can block scripts as well as images...

Re:We may never find out (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912601)

Can it sew 20 pages together into one readable article?

(I find it pretty sad that a magazine-like site doesn't have a print-friendly version, the usual antidote to such silly high-concept design. Even Wired looks better on the web.)

Are you willing to pay for "printable version"? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912897)

I find it pretty sad that a magazine-like site doesn't have a print-friendly version

Several magazine-like sites have a print-friendly version available only to credit card holders. Ars is one.

Re:We may never find out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15914976)

Yes. There are extensions that do just that.

DS. (3, Insightful)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912347)

Didn't the DS already pass every single test to do with the older generation gaming? We've never seen a console sell to mothers more than kids before but the DS has single handedly got thousands of mothers playing Nintendogs, brain age and whatever other games they picked up.

Using the 360 to judge if the mass market is into the new gaming era is like using a people carrier to judge if people like fast cars. It makes no sense when we have something with a very clear cut answers right infront of us.

Re:DS. (1)

dogbowl (75870) | more than 8 years ago | (#15915198)

My mom went out and bought a DS (for Brain Training).

Ans she didn't just go out and buy it .. she had to visit 3 different stores before she found one in stock. My mom used to berate me for playing the "nintendo" too much back in the day, and I never thought I'd see the day she would want her own.

My mom already has a game console (1)

HappyHead (11389) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912379)

She plays games on her Sega Master System every night, and doesn't want to get some expensive, confusing new thing with all those extra buttons.

By the way, does anyone know where I can find replacement controllers for a Sega Master System?

Re:My mom already has a game console (1)

Kuj0317 (856656) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912656)

sega genesis controllers work fine.

Re:My mom already has a game console (1)

HappyHead (11389) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912807)

I tried that, the buttons don't work, and the up/down are reversed. (left and right work fine though)

Re:My mom already has a game console (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#15917486)

I think the MS (at least the MS2) uses the 9-pin serial ports that were common on computers back then. I remember plugging a C64 joystick in one and playing Sonic with it. Those joysticks often have two buttons and a switch to set them to one or two button mode. I only tested one button but I think two should work, too.

mother i'd like to... (4, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912398)

Mother I'd Like to Frag?

Re:mother i'd like to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15918604)

Finally i can wear this [overclockers.co.uk] (first one) without all my friends mum's giving me weird looks.

Thanks Peter Moore!

too complicated (2, Interesting)

treak007 (985345) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912400)

I think that most casual gamers want easy to play, less complicated games like tetris and bejeweled rather then Madden and Quake. I don't see these kinds of games on the Xbox360. This of course of assuming that most mothers are at most casual gamers.

Re:too complicated (1)

p0tat03 (985078) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912437)

"I don't see these kinds of games on the Xbox360. This of course of assuming that most mothers are at most casual gamers."

You mean like...
- Geometry Wars
- Hexic HD
- Uno

And for the *slightly* more complex gamer, Marble Blast Ultra?

Plenty of casual games on the 360, just not the type you would buy off a store shelf.

Re:too complicated (1)

jgrana (931567) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912515)

You still don't have the same "pop it in and play" thing with Xbox Live Arcade that you do with a traditional console. Frankly, you're not gonna get someone that's not computer-savvy (which is absolutely the case for many moms) to navigate it well enough to find the games they want. I think the ease of use of a traditional console is always going to win out with that crowd.

Re:too complicated (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912558)

You mean like...
- Geometry Wars
- Hexic HD
- Uno

And for the *slightly* more complex gamer, Marble Blast Ultra?
Didn't you read the article? (Wait, stupid question.) "Mom" hated all of those games, with the notable exception of Hexic. In fact, it sounds like it took several days of grueling gameplay to get "Mom" to warm up to any of the games.

The entire article can be summed up like this:

- "Mom" loves the idea of murder mysteries and sportscar racing.
- "Mom" wants them to be less action oriented and more cerebral.
- "Mom" is not as coordinated as a teenager, and does not want to mash four joysticks and thirty buttons.
- "Mom" also thinks the 360 makes a nice screensaver.

heavy.. not mom friendly (1)

Kuku_monroe (753761) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912509)

I doubt my mom can even lift the 360 to take it home and play with it :/

Xbox Execs - Idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15912519)

Peter Moore:

"your mom would be playing the XBOX 360."

"winning E3 is overrated"

Seamus Blackley:

"One of the basic premises of the Xbox is to put the power in the hands of the artist," Blackley said, which is why Xbox developers "are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.'"

strange coincidence (1)

stubear (130454) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912590)

I was talking to a co-worker at lunch about the XBOX 360 that I recently purchases and she was telling me how her parents (in their mind-40's) played a lot of Halo and Halo 2 on the original XBOX. In fact, the XBOX was theirs, not the kids. She said she would come home from school and her mom would be playing Halo. Now, I realize that (and I'm paraphrasing a sig I recently read) the plural of anecdote is not data but clearly demonstrates that the original XBOX had the potential to be mom friendly.

The Wii? (3, Insightful)

Anthony Boyd (242971) | more than 8 years ago | (#15912926)

I'm sorry, I thought that the Wii was supposed to be the console for moms (and dads, and grandparents). It's a bit of a stretch to think that the same controller and button-combos that make hardcore gamers happy can also make a soccer-mom happy. I agree with Nintendo that the best approach is to rethink the interface, rethink the interactions, and re-engineer things to win over non-gamers. They've done OK in winning over new gamers with the DS interface and Brain Games. With the Wii, I think they can repeat their success, if they stay sharp and deliver on the things they've been saying.

Of course, a rising tide lifts all boats, so I'm sure the XBox 360 will benefit. But the 360 is not the vanguard, IMHO.

My mother used to really use an Atari 2600. (1)

Canthros (5769) | more than 8 years ago | (#15913058)

She also played a few games on the NES, and has been making serious use of a GameBoy for years (Tetris, as it turns out, is still a killer app). I think I need a better point of comparison with the mainstream.

Possibly one that isn't directly related to me.

Consoles for parents (1)

ericlondaits (32714) | more than 8 years ago | (#15913192)

My mom and my dad used to play with our Intellivision (a console by Mattel) way back in the Atari days. Mostly simple arcade games like Burgertime. Neither paid much attention to the C=64 which replaced the Intellivision, nor to the NES that replaced the C=64, though by that time they played a couple of games (mostly Tetris) on the Mac.

By the time my brother and I became less interested in our Gameboy, my mom got hooked. Tetris and Shangai being the first victims of cartridge burnout, followed by Dr. Mario. She also played a bit of Puzzle Bobble in the Mac... but never took any interest whatsoever in the SNES, N64 or Playstation 1 we had at home.

When my brother bought an X-BOX, someone made the mistake of showing my mom how to load the Tetris DVD that camed bundled with the console, so she was back again at her game, despite the complex controller (compared to the gameboy).

Can't get my wife off it (1)

Morinaga (857587) | more than 8 years ago | (#15913528)

My wife (a mom) is relatively addicted to many things on the arcade. Lately she's been soaking up some hours with Zuma. Great game with fun sound and addictive qualities. I'm at the point where we may just need to buy a second one so I can waste away on Oblivion. When I showed her that Galaga was on the arcade I knew I was in trouble. The $60 new games? Absolutely no interest but the arcade is a perfect fit for her.

Re:Can't get my wife off it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15914733)

Yeah I really see this being the biggest meaning of Peter's statement. If there is a 360 in the house and they see it has all these great puzzle games Zuma, Bejeweled, Etc and all the classic arcade games a lot of mom's played when they were young they will be hooked and want to play. I know my Mom loves Zuma and just about any puzzle game or slot machine game. She did play video games with me when I was yound like Burger Time, Ms. Pacman and Sonic the Hedgehog.

My Mom passed away 11 years ago, insensitive clod (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15913577)

So there

Bigger market than you realise (1)

jaebea (588350) | more than 8 years ago | (#15913887)

I dunno about your mum, but I guess it'd vary on what they'd do with their circle of friends. I don't expect "EA SPORTS TUPPERWARE PARTY 2007" or "KNITTING CIRCLE2K7" but I think it's a great way to be able to stay in touch with friends, chat, catch up over a reasonably interesting game or two they might be all able to play.

Gin Rummy, Bridge, Hearts, 500 etc. over Live! with a bunch of friends while they played cards and talked about how their son had run off to Canada to work on a ski resort and how he was turning out to be such a hopeless bum.

The potential is huge in Asian markets. Imagine setting your mum up for Mahjong or Go-Stop so she can get off your case about finding a decent job and putting down a downpayment on a house.

One can only dream.

Chatterboxes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15915047)

I made the mistake of trying to play UNO online during the day awhile back. Two moms were chatting away, and I mean hardcore beauty salon stereotypical chatting. It was exhausting to listen to and actually gave me a bit of a headache. One was actually playing, the other was just using the headset while her kid played. "Timmy, don't you dare challenge me! blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"

That was hilarious! (1)

SEMW (967629) | more than 8 years ago | (#15916160)

That article was great.

Alex: Final question, what are we having for dinner?

Mrs. P: Are you kidding? After all that, you expect me to make dinner, too?

Alex: Touché.


That was the most obvious, but it was all pretty funny - almost satire, even better because it *wasn't* actually satire.

Be Mom Friendly when she gets Taito Collection :) (1)

NekoXP (67564) | more than 8 years ago | (#15918488)

My Mom loves Rainbow Islands, and all those classic arcade games of that ilk.

Of course Taito collection is already on the XBox so it was mom friendly when it came out. Does it still work under the emulation?

I only wish they would have provided a real Bug joystick, and let Bub and Bob jump using pushing up of the joystick, rather than pressing a button. You can't fire rainbows and jump so easily with two buttons on one hand :(

She loves the ORIGINAL Mario (or the Mario Allstars version. As long as it's the Super Mario Bros. or Lost Levels versions, or Mario 3. Anything else she won't play). Once XBox 360 gets those, it'll be on a win. ROTFLMAO. I guess Wii wins there.

Anyone thinking of porting Tapper to a next-gen console? :)

http://www.midway.com/classicGames/classicGamePlay er.php?game=tapper [midway.com]

Too many buttons (1)

mjhacker (922395) | more than 8 years ago | (#15920091)

Sorry to disappoint, but the learning curve for today's generation of games, especially if you hadn't been keeping up with the gradual build-up (each generation having more action buttons than the last), is too much for your typical mom. They're more likely to throw the controller down in frustration because they can't grasp how to use it. I know many smart older people who said they tried playing an Xbox, only to give up because of all the buttons.

That's where the Wii will come in. Hardly any buttons to worry about there. I wager you'll see moms slashing and swiping at television screens with the wii-mote more than you'll see them playing a sports game on either the 360 or PS3.

I'm not saying that all moms won't be able to play the 360, but the majority of them have no love for gaming, or any interest to start gaming. If anything changes that, it'll be the Wii, not the 360.

MS was right, according to TFA (1)

DeeDob (966086) | more than 8 years ago | (#15920560)

The article tried to verify if the console was "mom" friendly, as stated by MS.

I think the conclusion might be that MS was right (even if it wasn't obviously stated in the article):
The 360 IS mom friendly.

She wouldn't buy a 360 by herself, but she would play it if it was in the house.
The MS comment was that "your mom will play it". Well looks like they were right. That mom would play it if it was in the house.

The article itself has some methodology problems though,
It started correctly, with her having to install and plug the 360, then having to configure her user id.
Then it degenerates in a bunch of "reviews" of games she was handed to play.
The more correct approach would maybe have been to present her with a bunch of XBLA titles and a numerous amount of games and letting HER decide what to play. Don't force her to play the games YOU want HER to play.
The results might have been more significant.

Moms will pwn you! well maybe not but... (1)

crcurran (995802) | more than 8 years ago | (#15920827)

Mothers are in their 30s to 40s on average which menas they may had exposure to atari2600 , pong and the like. They are also much more computer savy than in previous decades. I think it's not far fetched at all for a mother to play the xbox360. My sister-in-law plays the pool gae from xbox live arcade with her son and I just purchased and loaded Uno. I'm trying to convince her to give it a try since I can playwith her some night. She doesnt play the usual x360 gaes since the motion gives her a headache. I know regular gamers that cant play first person shooters due to the otion sickness. So, my point is she gets ill playing ost xbox titles but found something that she can enjoy with her kids. Most Moms want to be involved with the games that their kids play. Our only problem is to convince my nephew to turn off the xbox every once in awhile. I love card and board games but if he doesnt see a plug or battery compartment, he is not interested.

Mom friendly? More like Mom-addictive! (1)

dhaines (323241) | about 8 years ago | (#15924431)

Mom's favorite games are Zuma and Hexic. Dad enjoys Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter.

Perhapes too friendly? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15924925)

I do not agree. What, with the vibrating controller and all whats not for a mom to like?
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