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Jack Thompson Files Take-Two, Rockstar Lawsuit

samzenpus posted more than 7 years ago | from the think-of-the-children dept.

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rtt writes "Jack Thompson is back on the video game scene and has followed through with his threat to file a law suit against Rockstar, Take-Two and Walmart for Rockstar's upcoming "Bully" title. bit-tech was sent a copy by the man himself which started as follows "Take-Two has until five o'clock p.m., Eastern time, Monday, August 14, 2006, to inform me in writing that it will forthwith provide me with a copy of Bully so that I and others can analyze it to determine whether it still poses a threat of copycat violence in our schools.""

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451 comments

Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say... (2, Interesting)

NsOmNiA91130 (942812) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915497)

...what the fuck? Did he watch the trailer? This game is about defeating bullies, not being one. Hell, from the looks of it, it's a comedic game, not GTA+School

Re:Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say. (5, Funny)

aprilsound (412645) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915532)

I think he just wants a free copy. I mean, who wouldn't?

Re:Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say. (5, Informative)

forkazoo (138186) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915697)

I think he just wants a free copy. I mean, who wouldn't?

Personally, I kind of want him to win, so I can demand free stuff from every company in the world, and threaten a law suit. That'd be sweet.

Seriously, this just shows that he think he is above the law, and everybody else is below it. He just can't accept the concept of fairness, if he thinks he has any right to demand that a corporation give him something for free. Especially given that he cites a school board resolution as if that were a major legal binding precident...

Some of my favorites in his crazy person rant:
21. Take-Two is fraudulently and deceptively marketing this game not only because it desperately needs the cash from the sale of this controversial game, whose release has been delayed for over a year in large part because of the efforts of the undersigned petitioner, but also because controversy still swirls about the Bully game, and Take-Two is Hell-bent to defuse it.

Because, you know... No video game in the history of the world ever shipped late, except because of his crusade. It can't possibly be related to needing more time to finish the game. Crazy people like him think they are winning great victories whenever anything happens.

29. Florida Congressman Jeff Stearns, who recently chaired hearings in the United States House of Representatives, discovered how thoroughly flawed the video game rating system is, as the ESRB is actually paid for and operated, in effect, by the video game industry itself. This is a classic case of the fox guarding the chickens. Congressman Stearns has now introduced to Congress a Bill called the "Truth in Video Game Ratings Act" largely because of the illicit collaboration between the ESRB and Take-Two.

Right... Thank god for the Federal Book and movie censors... Because, you know, the MPAA isn't funded by movies. And, why the hell is nobody even bothering to ask the industry to self regulate books? I can read a graphic description of horrible bestiality gang bang child rape and decapitation with a chain saw without having to show ID. But, 30 polygons try to do it doggy style, and it's the end of the world.

Re:Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say. (4, Insightful)

RsG (809189) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915548)

Not that I agree with ole' Jackass, but how does that make things different? To devils advocate for a moment, people like JT are the ones who blame things like the Columbine shootings on video games, and that was related to bullying (in that the perpetrators were themselves bullied and perceived their actions to be revenge).

In Thompsons warped view of the world, games make children violent. This isn't a particularly rational viewpoint, but his actions here are consistant with it. What does he care that the game doesn't condone bullying? It's a Rockstar game (which he hates), and it's violent (which gives him a chance to get up on his soapbox and preach).

Re:Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say. (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915558)

. . .which gives him a chance to get up on his soapbox and preach

Ohhhhhhh, the irony!

KFG

Re:Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say. (1)

RsG (809189) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915679)

Bah, where did I ever claim that I wasn't preaching?

I can call Jack's soapbox stance irrational, ill concieved, idiotic and generally worthless from my own soapbox. It's not the soapbox I'm attacking after all, it's the moron who's climbed atop it (metaphorically speaking).

Re:Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say. (2, Interesting)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915750)

Bah, where did I ever claim that I wasn't preaching?

The irony I was refering to is Jack getting up on his soapbox as a bully, bullying a game about fighting bullies.

And of course he uses the argument that standing up to bullies is the cause of violence. How convenient for him:

I'm sure it'll come out something like; "You can't countersue me; there are already too many silly lawsuits!"

KFG

Re:Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say. (3, Insightful)

grapeape (137008) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915615)

But remember since colombine its not about preventing bullying. Rather than getting at the root problem they keep with the old kids will be kids line and dismiss the bullies...but with johnny who gets beat up everyday we need to get him into counseling and ostracize him further just in case he goes postal one day.

Parenting philosophy (4, Insightful)

mcrbids (148650) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915824)

As a father of 5 children, I counsel my kids that it's usually their fault when they are the victims. They are responsible for themselves and their own well being, and they are the ones who suffer when they don't ensure this.

Yes, bad people do mean things, and you can't stop that. But you can do many things to ensure that the bad people don't do those mean things to you. Whether by locking your bike, (so it's not stolen) avoiding dangerous situations, or by demanding respect early in a relationship.

There's a kid who lives nearby (whom I'll call Ray) who is a classic victim. It seems like, no matter what, things just don't work out for this kid. It's sad, really. But recently, this he has been hanging out at our house, and we've been counseling the him to stand up for himself. He really had no idea how much of his bad situations he had personally been contributing to, and the result is that, even though we aren't his parents, he's really bonded with us.

When a child is victimized, if the authority does nothing to teach the victim how to handle the situation from a position of strength, it reinforces their position of weakness. They are given the message that they need to be coddled by the authorities against the bad bullies, and I think that's just wrong. This then prevents the situation from actually improving long term, and when it gets bad enough, the victim pops and mows down a schoolyard with an AK-47.

Bullies should be punished, and frequently, so should the victims.

When fights break out among our kids, we punish both parties equally. While the aggressor gets punished for "taking things to the next level", the victim is punished for allowing it to happen to him/her. They can develop means to encourage aggressors to leave them the !@## alone, and they do.

Forget "fair". Life isn't fair, and law is just a set of consequences that only take effect when you get caught. Teaching towards not being in the victim role helps people avoid the pain of being taken advantage of, and being hurt by the very authorities put there to protect them.

For the record, actual fights are very rare in our household. Our children are usually described by others as unusual in how close, polite, and considerate they are towards each other. Said children range from age 9 to age 17.

Re:Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say. (1)

russ1337 (938915) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915844)

I dunno. There seemed to be plenty of people on this post yesterday [slashdot.org] that pretty much said 'every problem can be solved with violence'. So I guess they were the ones who breed the kids that are the bully's. Either that, or they raise kids that go postal.

Jack Thompson is obviously a moron. They should flick him a copy of some assassin snuff underage beastiality sex game, and watch him catch fire.
Then say 'oops we sent you the wrong disk'...

Re:Okay, I think I stand for all of us when I say. (1)

dewie (685736) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915817)

Actually, that makes more sense, from Jack Thompson's (admittedly warped and twisted) point of view. He called the game a 'Columbine simulator', as I recall, and what was the motivation behind the Columbine shootings? Fighting back against bullies.

Go Take Two! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915502)

Honestly can someone point me in the right direction to finding a large breasted Latina woman who has erogenous toes and soles? I don't care if she uses Windows.

first post (-1, Troll)

stonefoz (901011) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915504)

first post

Here's hoping for a "Jack Thompson head" mode... (3, Funny)

Vandil X (636030) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915510)

Imagine the hours of fun playing the GCN version on the Wii, smacking Jack Thompsons in the head with the Wii-mote..

Re:Here's hoping for a "Jack Thompson head" mode.. (4, Insightful)

MustardMan (52102) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915593)

Video games don't make me violent...

Being pissed off at what an asshole Jack Thompson is makes me violent.

Re:Here's hoping for a "Jack Thompson head" mod... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915609)

smacking Jack Thompsons in the head ...

No, no -- you need to aim for a vital organ.

Re:Here's hoping for a "Jack Thompson head" mod... (3, Funny)

Drooling Iguana (61479) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915625)

His mouth is in his head.

Re:Here's hoping for a "Jack Thompson head" mod... (4, Funny)

RsG (809189) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915698)

Really? I coulda swore he was communicating out of the other end... :-)

I think I've tried that one (2, Insightful)

SpecialKae (769783) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915514)

A not so clever ploy for a free game methinks ;-) (And Rockstar thinks, "Hmmm...give him a game so that he can try to sue us...Actually that will probably take care of all the publicity we need!")

So, um (4, Funny)

ZorbaTHut (126196) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915518)

Why doesn't he just buy one himself?

Seems easier on everyone's behalf.

Don't know why I'm even responding to this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915545)

"I shall file a lawsuit against your respective companies to stop the game's October 1 release"

Re:Don't know why I'm even responding to this (1)

ZorbaTHut (126196) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915582)

Ah, I missed that line. Thanks.

Re:Don't know why I'm even responding to this (4, Funny)

Amouth (879122) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915606)

"me with a copy of Bully so that I and others can analyze "

Assumeing that A means one.. did he just publicly emit that he plans on comitting copyright violation by either making copies and passing them out OR conducting a public preformace of a copyrighted work.

me things someone needs to send him a nasty gram

Re:Don't know why I'm even responding to this (2, Funny)

TheDreadSlashdotterD (966361) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915731)

Dear Jack,
Here is the copy of "Bully" that you requested for your lawsuit against us. Please feel free to use the materials contained herein with the case. However, you are bound by our license agreement to not infringe on our copyrights, trademarks, and patents (henceforth known collectively as "Rockstar's IP that makes JT cry."). Our software is heavily protected with anti-piracy software (henceforth known as "giving you the shaft for free") and any reverse engineering of our product, whether in pursuit of your case or not, will constitute infringing on Rockstar's IP that makes JT cry. We hope your case against us goes well, and we look forward to giving you the shaft for free again soon.
Yours Truly,
Rockstar's IP that makes JT cry.

I want a Rolls Royce (5, Funny)

Larry Lightbulb (781175) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915519)

So that I and others can analyze it to determine whether it still poses a threat of copycat luxury car driving in our schools.

They'll ignore him (1, Redundant)

NineNine (235196) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915522)

I'm sure that Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. 1. Consulted their attorneys. 2. Their attorneys told them to ignore him and that 3. If he does file a lawsuit, they'll counter-sure for slander, and the judge will more than likely slap the initial idiot with a charge for filing frivolous lawsuits. Nothing will come of it. There are lots of wackos that file all sorts of wacko lawsuits every day. Most are without merit, and are certainly not news.

Now, how about a good review of the game...?

Re:They'll ignore him (2, Interesting)

Babbster (107076) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915857)

Nothing will come of it. There are lots of wackos that file all sorts of wacko lawsuits every day. Most are without merit, and are certainly not news.

There's some degree of truth to this, but lawyers who consistently file suits that are found to be baseless can end up losing their license to practice law. JT has already been investigated by the Florida Bar Association and one judge in Alabama revoked his temporary license [slashdot.org] to practice law in the state.

While I think that Take Two/Rockstar is pretty safe from Jack, he might not be safe from himself...

One way to get the game before it's release (1)

Beached (52204) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915523)

I wonder if he will have to pay retail ;)

Free Promotion (5, Funny)

brownaroo (682715) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915527)

Awsome - Rockstar have a new game - might check it out

Or maybe he could just eat a dick (5, Insightful)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915528)

Seriously, nobody gives a shit about him.

He's a self-promoting moralistic jerkoff. Stop giving him air by paying attention to him.

Re:Or maybe he could just eat a dick (4, Insightful)

RsG (809189) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915575)

The problem is the people who take him seriously and agree with him. Sometimes ignoring the opposition isn't the solution - you must speak out and denounce them.

With Jack, ignoring him will merely be taken as a sign that you either cannot counter his flimsy arguements, or else that you agree with him. He may be the worlds biggest troll, but he's considered credible by politicians and the media, and that makes him more dangerous than most crackpots.

Re:Or maybe he could just eat a dick (1, Insightful)

Bios_Hakr (68586) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915658)

You have to give him a counter-offer he cannot possibly accept.

Jack, come to our offices and we'll let you and your group play. We'd love to send you a copy, but this is really unoptimized code that only works on our computers. Just let us know a day and we'll have first-class tickets for up to 10 people, a limo, and a hotel for a few days.

Then, set up a media blitz with schoolgirls, freckled-nosed bullies, taped-glasses geeks, and more schoolgirls. Hot ones. Big tits and short skirts. Jack and his stuffy-nosed panel will be met by and accompanied everywhere by these mostly-naked babes. Take some comprimising shots of Jack gettin' his uber-micro on while some hot schoolgirl rubs her tits on the back of his head.

Or, just come up with some other offer that he can't possible accept. Put the ball back in Jack's court.

Re:Or maybe he could just eat a dick (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915586)

flamebait, troll, offtopic, something to mod the idotic parent down this is no where near insightful

Re:Or maybe he could just eat a dick (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915639)

Unlike your brilliantly insightful post...

Re:Or maybe he could just eat a dick (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915726)

We tried that with you, it still hasn't worked obviously.

I think I speak for everyone here, (5, Funny)

Vengeance (46019) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915533)

when I invite Jack to take a nice vacation in the Sun. I mean physically inside the generally accepted diameter of the star.

Re:I think I speak for everyone here, (3, Funny)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915551)

It's actually easier to slingshot him outside of the solar system. Only problem there is that the Goa'uld might get mad.

I wonder (4, Funny)

PhrostyMcByte (589271) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915721)

So if I threaten to sue game companies I can get free prerelease copies of their games? Bring in the lawyers!!

Re:I think I speak for everyone here, (1)

Jay Carlson (28733) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915808)

The standard line (from The Ringworld Engineers) is:

"study sunspots from underneath"

Re:I think I speak for everyone here, (2, Funny)

humungusfungus (81155) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915869)

"when I invite Jack to take a nice vacation in the Sun. I mean physically inside the generally accepted diameter of the star."

You're obviously being influenced by video games and they're making you think violent thoughts. You're a big fan of Privateer and Wing Comander, I'll bet.

Before video games there was no violence. Ever. Well, maybe a bit because of Rock and Roll, but before that, not a lick.

AOL Response (3, Funny)

Bob9113 (14996) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915534)

"Take-Two has until five o'clock p.m., Eastern time, Monday, August 14, 2006, to inform me in writing that it will forthwith provide me with a copy of Bully so that I and others can analyze it to determine whether it still poses a threat of copycat violence in our schools"

At the risk of sounding AOL:
Oooh - Me too please!

Re:AOL Response (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915619)

they way it sounds to me is that take two should take him to court for threating them

Re:AOL Response (4, Insightful)

h0tblack (575548) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915702)

Give him a copy early and get him to sign a nice solid NDA. Then sit back and wait for him to be unable to control himself and spew forth the special brand of vitriolic fervour that we've come to expect in his game 'reviews'.

Then sue him for slander, breach of NDA (assuming any of his comments are even vaguely related to the game, which may be tricky) and soak up even more free publicity.

Profit...

Re:AOL Response (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915738)

Try...

ME2PLZ!!!1

Slashdot Interview him! (1)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915537)

For the last time. Someone interview him!(From slashdot). I have some questions that need answers. Apparently it seems difficult to see his stance on TakeTwo/Walmart being the major cause for concern.

Re:Slashdot Interview him! (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915646)

Yeah, seems kind of ironic that old Jack is partnering up with the largest gun retailer in the country (Wal-Mart) to stop the spread of video game violence...

Case without evidence or a crime. (4, Interesting)

joystickgenie (913297) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915546)

Wait... how can you bring someone to court for something before they didn't do it? He is saying that rockstar has practiced fraud in the games advertising and be brought up with the "Florida nuisance law" and his evidence in this is that they haven't sent him a copy.

This has to be thrown out of court.

Re:Case without evidence or a crime. (1)

Synic (14430) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915556)

Wasn't he already disbarred?

Re:Case without evidence or a crime. (2, Insightful)

abandonment (739466) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915659)

no, unfortunately - just removed from a case where he was trying to but his nose in where it wasn't wanted.

can't remember the legal term, but he was trying to pretend to be a lawyer in an out of town case, and the judge basically said 'um, no - you are a retard' and kicked him out.

Re:Case without evidence or a crime. (1)

Hotawa Hawk-eye (976755) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915730)

IANAL, but I believe he's going to seek an injunction against them to try to prevent them from releasing the game at all. I hope they call his bluff and go to court, where they can rip him apart (assuming they have a good legal staff) asking him to demonstrate his evidence of a causal relationship between video games and violence and prove that relationship. What we need is for Thompson to lose in court, so that when he speaks out in the future we can bring this loss up as precedent.

Re:Case without evidence or a crime. (3, Insightful)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915785)

I believe he's going to seek an injunction against them to try to prevent them from releasing the game at all.

There's a legal term for that: "Prior Restraint".

Times have changed I guess. Back in my day lawyers in independent practice fought against it, but what the hell did we know? We were all fired up about about such quaint notions as "Civil Rights" and shit.

KFG

Send him the Wii version... (1)

elbenito69 (868244) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915555)

So he can't test it out until after the release date!

Re:Send him the Wii version... (2, Funny)

Gen. Malaise (530798) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915820)

I think they should send it to him......on 5.25" floppies :-)

Rockstar should send him a copy. (5, Funny)

CanSpice (300894) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915559)

Remember that old story about some tech support guy who, upon asking a user to send him a copy of a floppy disk, received a piece of paper with the floppy disk photocopied on it?

Rockstar should do that.

Could it be me? (1)

toupsie (88295) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915794)

Yes, I am old [slashdot.org] .

Who is the Bully... (1)

Foo2rama (755806) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915560)

Come on Jack you are the bully here, you are all hurt that no one takes you seriosuly so you try and pick on who ever you can... instead of using sticks and sontes you use ad hominums and strawmen...

Oh, it's Jack Thompson again... (3, Insightful)

CharonX (522492) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915564)

...the world famous comedian and one of the best actors there is.
Honestly, he has to be - he always makes me laugh with tears when he cracks one of his "how videogames [verb] the [noun]" jokes or when he retells the original classic "why videogames are root of all evil" one-liners.
Also, I really love the way he pretends to be the biggest, most bigoted dumbfuck on earth. I mean, this guy has pure talent - no one alive could be such an gigantic arsehole as he pretends to be.

Jack, Jack, Jack.. (1)

vinividivici (919782) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915571)

Someone needs to teach you about real influences. I have played violent games for the majority of my life (starting with Wolfenstein 3D) and never once have I tried to recreate any of the scenarios. Jack seems to think that all of Rockstar/Take-Two games are solely popular because people want to reenact things, but how many people can truly blame video games on their crimes.

Excuse me, but I'm going to go kill some hookers, steal some kid's lunch money, and go joyriding in a stolen police car now.

Re:Jack, Jack, Jack.. (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915641)

personaly i every time i read anything he writes i have this odd feeling that if he was infront of me i would bash his head in with my monitor... it isn't because of violent games... it is because i hate assholes

Re:Jack, Jack, Jack.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915648)

Sooo, meet you outside at 8, then? I'll bring the bat.

Ban his use in the license... (0, Troll)

bokmann (323771) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915574)

If Oracle, Microsoft, and others can craft end user licenses that ban people from comparing their product against others and publishing those metrics, how about crafting a license that prevents people from reviewing and publishing information in context of copycat crimes?

oh lordy (4, Insightful)

nomadic (141991) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915577)

Now we'll have 5000 posts screaming about this, most of them adding nothing to the argument. Why preach to the choir? Can someone explain it to me? Do people just like patting each other on the back?

To file a lawsuit you need a small amount of money. That's it. This doesn't mean anything. Trust me. They have no standing, they have no legitimate cause of action, this will go nowhere. Just calm the hell down people.

Re:oh lordy (1)

sqlrob (173498) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915787)

Except one of the members of the "choir" here is likely JT himself.

He likes making a fool out of himself on message boards, and never answers the posts that ask him questions in ways that can't be weaseled out of.

Ho Hum (1)

fm6 (162816) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915585)

This is getting repetitive. See Jack Get Outraged. See Jack File Silly Lawsuit. See Judge Throw Out Lawsuit Because of Bad Spelling. BOOORRRRIIING!!!!

Hey, that gives me an idea. We should invite Jack to a Slashdot Interview. That would be interesting.

As I type this, I see four Google ads, all by law firms that want to help me sue somebody....

Re:Ho Hum (1)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915601)

Now I know that all of CTA(Chicago Transit Authority) health and environment safety advertisement is directed towards Jack Thompson.

Take two has all the luck (1)

aiken_d (127097) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915591)

I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but you have to wonder if they're paying this guy. At the very least, the guy has to have stock in Take Two the way he shamelessly promotes them.

Re:Take two has all the luck (1)

Eberlin (570874) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915676)

Can't confirm it, but didn't he buy stock in either Take Two or Rockstar (I forget which) so that he can say he's a stockholder and show up at company meetings?

Maybe he's just going SCO-like and pumping stock while getting 'free' publicity out of the whole deal. Who knows. Sounds like a good conspiracay theory though, no? Unfortunately, I don't think he's that smart.

Now that's an ego... (4, Funny)

Miguelito (13307) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915592)

"Take-Two has until five o'clock p.m., Eastern time, Monday, August 14, 2006, to inform me in writing that it will forthwith provide me with a copy of Bully so that I and others can analyze it to determine whether it still poses a threat of copycat violence in our schools"


Takes a serious ego to think you have the right to make such a demand from a company, simply because you've set yourself up as the one to make sure video games aren't too violent.

I'd love to see Take-Two to tell him to take a flying leap.

I want to exploit your product for political gain (1)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915599)

but I can't do it without your help. My criticisms will be lost in the crowd of largely positive reviews. But if I get a sneak peak, I'll beat the rush...

Hmmmm.... (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915614)

Why can't he just download the torrent like everyone else that isn't paying for a copy?

I mean, it seems like he is trying to bully Rockstar into giving him a free copy....

OK, so, ummm... (1)

c0d3m4n (680120) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915616)

I care even less about Jack than I do about another silly game from Rockstar.

Jack is a better PR flack than lawyer (5, Interesting)

Infonaut (96956) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915621)

The language from his suit is designed for media consumption, not to sway a judge.

Here's a random clip from his statement of facts:

21. Take-Two is fraudulently and deceptively marketing this game not only because it desperately needs the cash from the sale of this controversial game, whose release has been delayed for over a year in large part because of the efforts of the undersigned petitioner, but also because controversy still swirls about the Bully game, and Take-Two is Hell-bent to defuse it.

Lawyers vary in how they make their statements of fact, but a long litany of statements like this make you sound unhinged and guilty of gross hyperbole. Maybe that's why he's been so stupendously unsuccessful [wikipedia.org] in all of his anti-game lawsuits.

I also wonder at the letter he sent to Take-Two and Wal-Mart. The opening paragraph certainly sounds like a bald attempt at extortion [wikipedia.org] . He's already skated on thin ice with the Florida Bar and with various judges. I wonder how much longer he'll be able to push the envelope with these vague and poorly constructed lawsuits before he gets nailed to the wall for it.

PA's Gabe is on to something I think (4, Interesting)

Guysmiley777 (880063) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915626)

So how do you fight Jack? Well first off all you don't fight him directly. He's like the fucking Candy Man. Mention his name and you give him power. Arguing with him is a waste of time. Jack or someone like him will always be there beating their chest and begging for air time. You'll never change his mind. What you can change is the validity of his arguments and we don't do that during a televised debate.

...

All we have to do, is not be who he says we are.

-Gabe out


I really wholeheartedly agree. Giving him attention when he pulls this stupid crap is not going to make him go away. He's an attention-whoring lunatic. He WANTS us to get worked into a tizzy.

Still (2, Insightful)

Dorceon (928997) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915627)

Notice that he phrased his request "...whether it still poses a threat of copycat violence in our schools." Not that there was proof that it ever posed a threat of copycat violence. "Hey Rockstar Games, are you still beating your wife?"

I just cant help but wonder.... (1)

AlphaLop (930759) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915629)

why he is not filing lawsuits against the movie industry for making violent films, the recording industry for gangster rap, Hell, why not the auto industry as I am sure kids have stolen cars and crashed them injuring and killing people.

I am so sick of the "it's for the children" brigade hiding behind that line and using it to force their own version of morality on the rest of us.

I hate to advocate assassination, but some people really are too stupid to be allowed to live... Someone needs to chlorinate this idiots gene pool.

Sure Jack... (3, Funny)

Kirsha (201264) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915633)

Here's your copy. It'll be $54.95.

Money orders and credit cards only please.

Who cares? (1)

ZeroRaider (995631) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915640)

Jack Thompson couldn't sue his way out of a paper bag. Pretty much every lawsuit he's started has failed. Why continue to give this attention whore attention? It's EXACTLY what he wants. If everyone ignored Jack Thompson for a week he'd probably commit suicide.

Bzzt, Wrong Answer (5, Insightful)

Kawahee (901497) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915643)

I'd like to see this on a Take Two/Rockstar press release:

A warning for those of you lazy self absorbed and/or just plain inattentive parents: All the censorship in the world won't make up for bad parenting if your child is more influenced by our games than by Mommy & Daddy, both you and your offspring have much bigger problems than the gameplay. So before you go hauling us or any other studio into court, look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if you did the best you could, because if you're considering taking us to court, you didn't.

Inspiration for above [wikipedia.org]

Re:Bzzt, Wrong Answer (4, Insightful)

Wordsmith (183749) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915744)

I'd like to see it on the box.

abuse of legal process? (1)

MrShaggy (683273) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915644)

Wouldn't this be using the threat of a lawsuit akin to blackmail??

Are there not laws to prevent this sort of..(wait for it?).. bullying ??

Maybe smiling Jack is trying to get a job with the RIAA??

Advice for Jack Thomas (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915645)

Jack Thomas, if you are sick of seeing violence in the video games, here's what you can do about it.

Go find a cliff or a bridge somewhere, then take you entire fucktarded family.
Once there have your entire fucktarded family jump off to their death.
After that jump to yours. You won't have to see violence any more and we won't have to put up with your constant bitching.

Re:Advice for Jack Thompson (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915689)

Sorry, that should have been Jack Thompson. But still the same type of person, a right wing extremist willing to take our rights away one way or another.

Jack Thompson, if you are sick of seeing violence in the video games, here's what you can do about it.

Go find a cliff or a bridge somewhere, then take you entire fucktarded family.
Once there have your entire fucktarded family jump off to their death.
After that jump to yours. You won't have to see violence any more and we won't have to put up with your constant bitching.


There, fixed

Re:Advice for Jack Thomas (1)

Erectile Dysfunction (994340) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915861)

I see no reason for Jack's family to be punished for his desire to be an infamous public figure.

Site Issue? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915665)

Firefox closes whenever I open the linked page in a new tab. I ran it from command-line, and got the following message:

NP_Initialize
New
SetWindow
SetWindow
SetWindow
NewStream
WriteReady
Write
decoding...
WriteReady
Write
WriteReady

Write
DestroyStream

Destroy
NP_Shutdown

This doesn't happen on any other page, and it almost looks deliberate. What's going on here?

I couldn't say it better myself (3, Insightful)

pcgabe (712924) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915671)

So how do you fight Jack? Well first off all you don't fight him directly. He's like the [fsck]ing Candy Man. Mention his name and you give him power. Arguing with him is a waste of time. Jack or someone like him will always be there beating their chest and begging for air time. You'll never change his mind. What you can change is the validity of his arguments and we don't do that during a [...] debate. We do it through our actions as a community. [...]

Arguing [...] with someone like Jack Thompson seems kind of stupid now don't you think?

All we have to do, is not be who he says we are.
(As said by Gabe [penny-arcade.com] , emphasis mine)

Enough is enough! (5, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915682)

Lazy parents. That's the problem, not violent content in games. If parents would actually PARENT their kids instead of being all self absorbed and/or just wanting to 'be their friend'. The vast majority of parents are lazy, do not want to take responsibility for their children's actions, and pay little if no attention to raising them properly. As a parent of a teenager I can say it makes my job all the harder too.

Instead of going after media (games, movies, whatever), why not focus on the ONLY place where social problems can be adequately addressed...the HOME.

Re:Enough is enough! (1)

Fizzlewhiff (256410) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915851)

Hey cut us parents some slack. I am to busy playing GTA San Andreas to raise my kids and when I do have time my WoW guild decides to raid something and I need to keep up my DKP.

extortion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915686)

isnt this a form of attempted extortion?

don't most people when a retail game is out have to pay to review it?

idiot (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915693)

what a blubbering vagina

Video games aren't violent... (3, Insightful)

tillerman35 (763054) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915707)

video game players are violent. You can get medieval on someone's ass playing the Telletubbies game if you try hard enough. What about all the times I crashed 747's into the World Trade Center in Microsoft FS2000? To be fair, I was trying to fly between them, but the frame rate on my Pentium ONE (with the floating point bug, thank you very much) was so crappy I often over-controlled and wiped out on one of them.

The converse is also true. I play World of Warcraft, an intensely PVP game but have never fought another player (mostly because they're all noobs and I'm too nice to pwn them severely). I could easily play an hour of GTA without killing a single NPC. It's not the point of the game, but I could do it if I wanted to.

Still, I'm thankful that the vast rightwing conspiracy is taking time off from the war on drugs, fighting against pr0n, opposing gay marriage, defending the rights of blastocycts, installing surveillance cameras, wire-tapping my home, and working feverishly to perfect SOME kind of mind-control device to protect me (a 47 year old man) from violent video games. Thanks, dudes!

Can I use his likeness... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#15915710)

...in an indie game I am working on?
It might be fun to shove a bazooka up his arse...you know...as practice for in case I ever actually meet up with him.

Society has been down this road before... (2, Insightful)

LinDVD (986467) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915712)

John Bruce Thompson is just Fredric Wertham [nyu.edu] all over again.

Seriously, what is the point??? (2, Insightful)

Sathias (884801) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915751)

Does he really expect us to believe that there is any possible way he could play the game and then say, "Actually, I was wrong... this game is just fine for our kids"? I'm under the impression that his crusade will pick on the tiniest detail, completely oblivious to bias and context.

Closet Gamer (1)

Slaryn (986308) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915780)

This is all lies, Jack just wants to get a copy early because he knows it'll be so fun.

Bah, I'd Sue Sony... (1)

PipianJ (574459) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915822)

I mean, I wish I could get away with this. I'd totally sue Sony for a Playstation 3 for me and others to analyze the possibility for fun to be had while playing it. After all, that's the only way anyone could get one...

What a nefariously wonderful idea (1)

saboola (655522) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915831)

You guys don't get it do you? He is working with the console warez scene groups! Instead of the shady tactics used in the past (Wal-Mart employees taking pre-release, some guy at the media duplication plant, cheese fries) he is going to do the easy thing and sue them to get an early release build. He will then release it onto the Intarweb. My hats off to you Jack Thompson, you crazy magnificient bastard!

Jack Thompson makes me feel violent. (1, Redundant)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 7 years ago | (#15915836)

Seriously, I want to pound him into a bloody puddle.

Maybe I should sue him for inspiring me to commit an act of violence.

LK
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