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Alan Cox answers even more questions

Hemos posted more than 15 years ago | from the answering-them-all dept.

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Mads-Martin writes "Well, it seems as though Alan Cox [?] has been kind enough to answer even more questions then the interview. Look at the September 3 entry. "

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The pIII 600's are even hotter. Thats sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704032)

At work one of my co-workers was beta testing Windows2000 on the new pentium3 600's and he left the computers on overnight and they were all fried by morning. I admit the technician installed the motherboards and used the old current power supply rather then a new efficient one but it seems like intel/AMD are overclocking its chips to compete agaisnt agaisnt each other and the result is todays chips are just way too hot.

I think the only way you can run these chips at 650mhz and over is with those kyrotech freezer units which cool the chip to -40. Linux might of saved the chips at work because its more efficient and uses less of the cpu when nothing is executing with its efficient vacant clock cycles but if the cooler k7 is hot with linux and a smaller micron etching then the p3's then these pentium3's running windows are dead meat.

I wish these chip makers would focus on quality and make smaller microns before cranking up these babies up to 600 to 700 mhz.

....anyway to keep on the subject of the post I am suprised that Alan answered the moderated down questions like "What places do you like in Iceland?". I guess Alan likes linux users and I think its a good thing for the linux community. If linux users and hackers like answering general questions then more skeptical bussinesses might give linux a shot. Especially the ones worried about support. They want to make sure that there questions wont be brushed off at newsgroups.

Can you imagine Bill Gates or Steve Balmer answering extra questions like this on there own spare time.

re: Beards and other odditiesR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704033)

I was not trying to say that there is something wrong with a beard (although, I wouldn't sport one myself) -- although an attempt to make it look half decent would probably go a long way.

There's nothing wrong with a garden, either. But if you let it overgrow with weeds it's no longer as aesthically pleasing.

Still, if you'd rather devote 5 minutes of shaving time to extra kernel patches, you have my blessing. ;-)

Re:Beard is cool! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704034)

Hey..the beard is alright! Hell, how else is a guru supposed to look!!! bout including an mp3 decoder in the kernel? *duck*

This is not a technical problem! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704035)

>>it seems like intel/AMD are overclocking chips to compete agaisnt against each other and the result is todays chips are just way too hot.

There is no technical reason why these chips have to overheat. The problem is that everything in a PC is made to meet the lowest cost. If it doesn't really work right, very few people seem to notice or to care.

Unfortunately, you need know heat transfer and fluid mechanics to make things work right, and a correctly engineered solution would cost $30 more to make. Two solutions that come to mind are

1: a properly sized pin-fin heatsink (probably 5" square, with .75" high pins, 3/8 thick baseplate. Pins are .075" diameter, with .1" between pins in a hex pattern. Copper is prefered for the heatsink material, but in reality we make do with aluminium. Air is forced by blower [about twice or thrice the size of the blower in your microwave oven] to get 800 linear feet/min velocity over the pins. No, those cute little fans don't cut it. The bottom of the sink must be FLAT!! and the interface must have heatsink grease.

2. Heat pipe, charged with alcohol, 8" square condenser, a 6" fan pulling air thru it.
The Kryotech system is neat (but overkill IMO), although similar things were done experimentaly at Digital 10 years ago or more.


Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704036)

Yet another reminder that Junior High is in session.

More fun at Telsa's diary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704037)

Read his wife's diary, 5 September. Some rather funny remarks about Athlon and room temperature...

Re:Grammar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704038)

Not to mention the ambiguity of whether the questions were answered by the interview or by Alan COx in the interview..

Re:More fun at Telsa's diary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704039)

HMMMM... My new dual PII slot 1(each processor at 400 Mhz) Never gets above 35 centigrade. The bios displays the proccesor temperature when ever I boot the system. Even after running the system for a long time and rebooting to try a new kernel the processors never get above 35 centigrade. They both have aluminium heat sinks with nice quiet fans. The motherboard I'm using monitors the processor temperatures and will sound an overheat alarm if its needed. My system always runs cool. I would guess that these new boxes don't have enough air flow.

Re:Interview With Rob Zombie? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704040)

Come to think of it, I've never seen AC, Stallman -and- ZZTop in the same room together! Hmm, makes me think...

Co-winky-dink? I think not!

Mr Foobar (and his long forgotten password)

Take a bath, Alan! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704041)

Please don't consider this a troll; I consider Alan to be a demi-god. However, it is a general thing I've noticed about hard-core hackers:

Why are so many hackers sporting disgusting, filthy, unkempt beards (hint: facial hair growing on your neck is not attractive), long unwashed hair, etc.? I mean, do you people actually think you look good? (cf. Alan Cox's mug shot [] )

Here's a hint: Women do like brainy guys. But if you're hoping to get laid between coding sessions, think about taking a shower, and trimming your beard so that it looks kempt (or consider shaving it off completely).

Marriage = don't care anymore? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704042)

He's married, he doesn't need to be pretty to get laid (grin).

Re:IS there a link to an ext3 resource? (1)

stevied (169) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704043)

I've not checked my linux-kernel or linux-fsdevel backlog yet, but I'm guessing that if sct announced anything, it would have been to one of those lists. Check the archives ( has the lkml FAQ and archives).

Re:first patch (1)

jammer (4062) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704044)

Is that an attempt at humour, or are do you truly not get it? :)

Shows something (1)

madprof (4723) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704045)

People said that it showed a great deal that we could all ask questions to the people behind the software about is future compared with company employees that may have NDAs and so on.
I think it says even more than Alan took time out to answer other questions which he felt were worth replying to.

Re:Take a bath, Alan! (1)

DrumHacksaw (5788) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704046)

Are you the one going around feeling people's beards? Next one of us you touch is going to slap you in cuffs, and then we're going to depilate your entire body with duct tape at the next LinuxWorld.

For those who wish to spectate, look for the BOF called "Hair or Code, which would you hack?"

Re:Beards and other oddities (1)

chromatic (9471) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704047)

Is the clean shaven myth the greatest piece of marketing brainwashing in western european history?

The necktie ranks right up there, too.

Thanks for answering more questions, by the way. Very classy.

QDMerge [] 0.21!

Re:first patch (1)

mountain (17902) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704048)

Well, I read alan's diary entry. And then came back to see what everyone had to say. And there were no comments. So I thought, hey...what the hell.

Thanks Alan! (1)

Surak (18578) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704049)

I second that!

Thanks to Alan Cox for giving us his time and effort. I know he's a busy guy and taking the time out to answer the questions of a few raving lunatics like us, and then answering even more questions...the guy just deserves our gratitude and respect.

Thanks again, Alan...

Re:Beards and other oddities (1)

thelonius (22561) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704050)

actually, i believe the clean-shaven look was mandated by Alexander the Great for his armies. it gave them an advantage in one-on-one sword combat with the unshaven soldiers whom they were fighting. (imagine how compromised you are when your opponent grabs your 2 feet of facial hair and swings you around by it. *ouch*)

i keep a beard just cuz i hate shaving so much.

Re:Interview With Rob Zombie? (1)

thal (33211) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704051)

He also looks like Rick Rubin and RMS to a point. I think anyone with long brown hair and a full beard pretty much look the same. All distinguising facial features kinda disappear. And then there's the sunglasses.

Re:Take a bath, Alan! (1)

bloosqr (33593) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704052)

I would say it was an old school thing i.e. the generation of kidz above us are more 'rustic hackers' and the kidz our gen grew up in the tech/rave scene.. but then I visited MIT once and *everyone* looks like that (oldskool) .. I kept expecting Jim Jones to appear and preach to the masses :) Its strange tho., because there really are two completely different 'stereotypes' of tech kidz.. In anycase stereotypes *are* just that .. crap.


domination (1)

RoLlEr_CoAsTeR (39353) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704053)

Some women btw like beards and anyone who thinks that something so trivial is the key to a successful relationship probably has big problems
Indeed, I agree. Anyone who feels that physical characteristics are the basis for a functional, successful relationship most likely has problems of their own that they are unable to solve. To think that so many people in this world allow themselves to be consumed by the vanity of the outward appearance. Case in point: the apparent success of the cosmetics industry.... for pete's sake, it's been around since long before I was born, and it doesn't show many signs of dying yet. Furthermore, as Alan mentioned, the plastic surgery business... which I would discount only for those who use it for purely cosmetic purposes, not for those who need it, or who use it to remove large, "unsightly" scars.

Either way, I think his hair is beautiful (from the gif it looks that way) and I figure it this way: it's his body, he may do as he pleases with it.

For those [women] who may write in to discredit him for his facial hair and long mane, someone could just as easily discredit them if they shave their legs. You don't have to, and although I do and don't really wish to not do so, it's not a necessary evil, just a ritual that many partake of.

In other words, it goes both ways, so shut up and live your own dang life, while we live ours.

Re:Interview With Rob Zombie? (1)

antizeus (47491) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704054)

And you know, I've never seen Alan Cox and Rob Zombie together?


I like the beard. (1)

Inoshiro (71693) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704055)

Frankly, it looks cool! Alan, good work with the hair :-) Go with what looks good. I know I'd try for a full beard if my hair didn't grow in so patchy under my chin. I suppose a moustache or sideburns are all I'll ever do :-(

Anyways, Alan Cox looks like a burly fellow. As long as he keeps his hair clean, it's all cool. Greasy hair is not cool. I'm sure the AC who posted this doesn't shower every day like a I do and Alan probably does.

first patch (2)

mountain (17902) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704056)

first patch

Bill Gates vs. Alan Cox (2)

JabberWokky (19442) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704057)

Can you imagine Bill Gates or Steve Balmer answering extra questions like this on there own spare time.

I am not defending Bill Gates here, but I'd imagine that even if he wanted to have an open session like this, his shareholders and corporate attorneys, PR guys and a dozen other "titles" would "need" to look it over.

This isn't all *that* bad... it's only fair to the other people in your company. I have to wait until Tuesday to talk to my partners about an issue that came up this weekend. On Freshmeat, a package came out that has the same name as our nine month old package, and deals vaguely in the same arena. I can't just drop him a line (if it were only my project, I could), because I need to tell my partners and get their input as well.

Bill Gates has several thousand "partners", some of whom have the sole job of making sure that what he says in public is what they all want him to say. That's one philosophy, and the other extreme is not great either -- look at Steve Jobs "Damn the torpedoes, I'm running this company the way *I* want to" philosophy.

The difference between Richard O'Brien and God? God can't write good Rock Musicals.

Re:Grammar (2)

SEWilco (27983) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704058)

Indeed. I've clicked on the most likely link without finding the additional answers, and now I'm here in this discussion finding nothing here. Well, I've only got two more links to click on to try to find those answers...maybe they're in his diary rather than his Everything entry...

IS there a link to an ext3 resource? (2)

e0n (74243) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704059)

He mentioned that some kind of alpha-like version was released. So IS there a link to a site with more information about ext3?

Re:IS there a link to an ext3 resource? (3)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1704060)

It's on Stephen Tweedie's public FTP archive:

Grammar (3)

Booker (6173) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704061)

Ok, I know this is kinda lame, and I apologize ahead of time, but I cringe when I see this sort of thing. It makes Slashdot look a bit unprofessional... Somebody feel free to moderate this down to a one. :-)

But - You guys really need a grammar checker and/or a copy editor. answer even more questions then the interview.

"than" not "then"

Interview With Rob Zombie? (3)

N1KO (13435) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704062)

Am I the only one who thinks Alan looks like Rob Zombie?

Beards and other oddities (4)

Alan Cox (27532) | more than 15 years ago | (#1704063)

Why do the same people who think plastic surgery is strange and weird go around sawing all the hair off their face. Is the clean shaven myth the greatest piece of marketing brainwashing in western european history? They had to do something when sword making went out I guess.

Some women btw like beards and anyone who thinks that something so trivial is the key to a successful relationship probably has big problems

PS: yes someone sent me my user name (duh 8))


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