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Cloned Beef Coming Soon?

CowboyNeal posted more than 8 years ago | from the identical-steaks dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "According to this article at Popular Science cloned beef may be coming soon. It talks about using meat within 48 hours of slaughter to allow cloning the best possible specimens, something that is not possible to determine while the animal is still alive. Apparently only 1 in 8000 animals is truly the best. Personally I'd love to see us progress to the point where it was possible to grow just the meat itself without the animal. That would end all the ethical issues with raising an animal for food, potential issues from mad cow disease, bird flu and whatever the next media induced panic is."

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I, for one... (0, Redundant)

jrobinson5 (974354) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975377)

...welcome our new cloned beef overlords.

Re:I, for one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975512)

mmmm....cloned beef on rye.

works for everything! (2, Funny)

Aurisor (932566) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975378)

I browsed through an old story, found the first post, and cloned it.

Tofu? (1, Interesting)

ZiakII (829432) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975382)

Personally I'd love to see us progress to the point where it was possible to grow just the meat itself without the animal.

They have that its called Tofu.... honestly I don't see how you could "grow" meat.

Re:Tofu? (2, Insightful)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975398)

That would require a lot of genetic engineering... I don't claim to be an expert on such things, but basically you'd have to eliminate the genes that grow everything but the meat. Then you'd have to give it sustenance somehow so it would grow.

Of course, it would still be "alive" before killing it but just as much as plants are.

Re:Tofu? (1)

trolleymusic (938183) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975407)

Isn't meat just a collection of groups of cells? So I guess it would be like just growing a blob with no brain or nervous system just muscle and flesh etc... While we're not there yet I guess this would be an offshoot of the same technology used to grow people new organs and skin (if that ends up being possible).

Re:Tofu? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975412)

You've never heard of VAT meat? Coming soon to a dinner table near you.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3208 [newscientist.com]

PS. Tofu rocks.

Re:Tofu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975510)

Mmmmmmmmm..... goldfish....

goldfish!?!?!?!

DO'H!

Re:Tofu? (4, Interesting)

tentimestwenty (693290) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975432)

Personally I'd love to see us progress to the point where it was possible to grow just the meat itself without the animal.

Personally, I would love to see us progress to the point where cows are well fed, happy and healthy. The meat will taste better, we'll be healthier and there's less cruelty to the cows. I would never eat meat grown in a lab.

Re:Tofu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975488)

I would never eat meat grown in a lab.
Interesting. Why not?

Re:Tofu? (3, Interesting)

Verteiron (224042) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975493)

Why not?

Re:Tofu? (1)

hcob$ (766699) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975551)

Personally, I would love to see us progress to the point where cows are well fed, happy and healthy. The meat will taste better, we'll be healthier and there's less cruelty to the cows. I would never eat meat grown in a lab. We already have this, although it originated in Japan. It's called Kobe Beef. Only, its one of the most expensive meats on the planet.

It doesn't cost much more (1)

tentimestwenty (693290) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975587)

We already have this, although it originated in Japan. It's called Kobe Beef. Only, its one of the most expensive meats on the planet.

I can buy organic beef at my local supermarket for about double the cost of regular beef. There has to be some point between factory farms and organic farms which is still cost effective and can be marketed to the average consumer. We are seeing organic & "air-chilled", "premium" chicken breasts advertised on TV and these are evidently selling very well.

Re:Tofu? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975563)

Healthier for you, perhaps, but not for the poor cow.

Oh, but that's right, God created humans in his image and gave him dominion (read: power to exploit as see fit) over other creatures; it's 'natural' for A to eat non-A; and all that other bullshit.

Personally, I'd love to see us progress to the point that we see raising animals for the sole purpose of later slaughtering and eating them as no less barbaric than raising genetically-engineered-to-be-retarded (thus having the intellect of many non-human mammals) people in order to eat them.

Re:Tofu? (0, Flamebait)

heinousjay (683506) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975628)

Your self-righteousness is exceeded only by your pompous assitude.

Re:Tofu? (2, Insightful)

Korin43 (881732) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975644)

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't eating meat entirely natural?

Re:Tofu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975593)

Less cruelty to the animal, until we kill them so that we can eat them. If I had a choice between meat grown in a lab or meat from an animal, I'd choose the lab. At the moment I eat meat once every 2 or 3 weeks, usually in social situations, and often regret it.

If the meat in the end is identical, why would you not eat the lab meat?

Re:Tofu? (2, Funny)

Bombcar (16057) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975615)

I think he's thinking more like Bob's invention!

http://angryflower.com/vegeta.gif [angryflower.com]

Re:Tofu? (1)

AP2k (991160) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975646)

Actually tofu is a bean. Regardless, it is possible to take a piece of ones skin, feed it some chemicals in a beaker, and it will grow more skin. Perhaps one day we may be able to take living flesh and make it grow too?

I for one.. (-1, Offtopic)

Shawn is an Asshole (845769) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975386)

Will just keep being vegan...

Re:I for one.. (3, Insightful)

javaman235 (461502) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975416)

I hope you would stay vegan for dietary not for ethical reasons. Grown beef would be just as ethical as grown plants that are GMO.

Re:I for one.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975497)

Vegans avoid that Frankenstein gmo food when ever possible. Dietary vegans aren't vegans. Veganism is about animal rights. Anything else is fakeatarian.

Re:I for one.. (4, Interesting)

S.P.B.Wylie (983357) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975589)

From dictionary.com:

vegan (vgn, vjn) n. A vegetarian who eats plant products only, especially one who uses no products derived from animals, as fur or leather.

The dictionary definition doesn't distinguish them, why should we? We have a name for animal rights activists: animal rights activists. You calling someone who doesn't eat meat for diet reasons a "fakeatarian" is elitism, and purposfully insulting. Bad things!!! Just ask Germany. (a leap, I know, but I couldn't think of anything else).

Personally, I have always seen the dietary reasons as some of the best not to eat meat. Eating higher up the food pyramid means it takes more energy to feed you, which is inefficient and a little unfair considering that people starve in this world.

Note: I do eat meat, but that's because I am spoiled and like how it tastes.

Just label it. (5, Insightful)

attemptedgoalie (634133) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975391)

I want the chance to vote with my dollars.

I don't think we know enough about the process and long term issues to go nuts with this now. Test it. Test the hell out of it.

But let me choose whether or not to buy it.

Re:Just label it. (1)

Krolley (65102) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975456)

I don't think you will need to worry about these products not being labelled. More likely, marketing companies will confuse the general populace by putting stickers with things such as "Super Organic!" etc on them. I hope that regulations have been drawn up to define exactly how and with what standards this lab-meat must be grown and that this can be communicated to the public so we all know what we are eating.

Re:Just label it. (1)

zipthink (943185) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975619)

I already vote with my dollars. In the meat market at the grocery store I see some packages that are just labeled "meat"

And I don't buy them.

Just you wait.... (5, Insightful)

Gemini_25_RB (997440) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975394)

Even if we could "grow" perfect steaks without the rest of the animal, somehow the practice will be banned. Yes, I'm looking at you, animal-rights extremists and religious wackos.

Re:Just you wait.... (1)

telbij (465356) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975426)

You have to admit the idea of a slab of beefing growing in a nutrient vat is pretty fucking creepy though.

Re:Just you wait.... (3, Funny)

MadEE (784327) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975438)

Apperently you've never tried processed cheese.

Re:Just you wait.... (1)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975477)

Not to me, no, it's not creepy. In fact, I rather like the idea, because it suggests the possibility of better quality meat (not just beef, but pretty much anything) at a lower price and better availability. It might even be possible to set up such labs in areas that are severely protein and mineral deficient, and produce it rapidly enough to enable the inclusion of a reasonable quantity of meat in the diet for those that want it as an everyday thing.

Re:Just you wait.... (1)

S.P.B.Wylie (983357) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975614)

After some of the sci-fi I have read, that is nothing. Plus, you don't think eating an animals muscle is kind of creepy? You have muscles too, you know, which, from what I hear, taste of chicken.

Re:Just you wait.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975538)

Synthetic meat has feelings too.

Re:Just you wait.... (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975583)

At the risk of giving them ammo... how will they get proper legal clearance on stealing some animal's precious DNA codes? Copying is wrong, m'kay?

Economics will take care of it (5, Interesting)

PIPBoy3000 (619296) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975602)

It's far more likely that textured vegetable protein, which has had millions of years of evolution behind it, will end up be more efficient to produce than grown steaks. Another issue is that the stuff inside steak that's "tasty", also happens to be bad for you if it's a significant portion of your diet. Saturated fats and high protein diets seem to cause long-term issues.

Now, I happen to be vegetarian, but certainly not for your standard ethical reasons. I'm all for animal experimentation, for example. I just find that our country's meat-heavy diet is expensive and inefficient. We're depleting our fresh water aquifers at a rapid rate, trying to grow feed for our cattle. American's waists are expanding, in part from our high-calorie meat diet.

And, to end on a lighter note, here's a funny little story called They're Made Out of Meat [electricstory.com] that's hysterical.

Re:Economics will take care of it (3, Interesting)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975640)

Now, I happen to be vegetarian, but certainly not for your standard ethical reasons. I'm all for animal experimentation, for example. I just find that our country's meat-heavy diet is expensive and inefficient. We're depleting our fresh water aquifers at a rapid rate, trying to grow feed for our cattle. American's waists are expanding, in part from our high-calorie meat diet.

One of the _other_ big benefits of cloned meat would be that, once properly developed, it would consume far less resources to produce than traditional meat on the hoof. You wouldn't have to keep it around for as long before harvesting it, you wouldn't have to waste calories growing body parts that aren't of any nutritional use, and you probably wouldn't even need to waste resources growing grain or grass to feed it. You could grow a lot of it just using recycled organic waste.

Furthermore with sufficient development in the technology you could probably grow healthier cuts of meat with less saturated fat and other bad stuff.

Growing meat... (2, Informative)

winkydink (650484) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975396)

Unless you can exercise the meat that is "grown" it will be mostly tasteless.

Re:Growing meat... (4, Informative)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975452)

Unless you can exercise the meat that is "grown" it will be mostly tasteless.

Actually, it's exactly the opposite. It's fat that gives meat flavor, not lean "exercised" meat. In fact, Kobe Beef, which is widely recognized as tender and flavorful uses steers that are specifically fattenened up and never exercised.

Re:Growing meat... (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975532)

It's a well-known fact that that beef cuts from working muscles (shoulders) are more flavorful than those that don't move that much (tenderloin). Yes, they are tougher, but proper cooking methods break down the collagen that causes toughness.

Re:Growing meat... (1)

ProppaT (557551) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975464)

Actually, wouldn't it be veal?

Ethical issues? (2)

slapyslapslap (995769) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975411)

There's no ethical issues with raising an animal for food with me. Keep your ethics to yourself, and I'll take the steak that once had legs.

Re:Ethical issues? (2, Funny)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975505)

Indeed. Can I interest you in some human meat grown on my human farm?

Re:Ethical issues? (2, Funny)

S.P.B.Wylie (983357) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975622)

Was it treated humanly? Fed well, given lots of exersice?

Re:Ethical issues? (1)

S.P.B.Wylie (983357) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975633)

This idea has other uses, like insuring high quality and low chance of contamination. Normal meat was once a living animal, and those can be very, very messy.

pr0n (3, Funny)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975413)

According to this article at Popular Science cloned beef may be coming soon

That sounds like the plot of a b-horror-porn movie starring a resurrected John Holmes.

Panic! (4, Insightful)

fm6 (162816) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975420)

That would end all the ethical issues with raising an animal for food, potential issues from mad cow disease, bird flu and whatever the next media induced panic is."

Yeah, right. Steaks made from clones. No potential for "media induced panic" there!

Re:Panic! (5, Funny)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975508)

Steaks made from clones.

Can't you just see the horror movie?

Dr. Jackson stared in horror at the meat growing vats as he slowly realized what had happened. He felt growing nausea, his stomach threatening to turn his delicious former meal into a mouth-fired projectile.

His assistant saw the look on his. "Dr. Jackson -- what is it? What's the matter?"

He slowly turned to her. He couldn't help but imagine the juicy, tender beef passing her lips -- or what he thought was beef.

"My God, Janice. It all makes sense. When I added the beef cells to the cloning solution -- the cut on my finger -- the blood, the blood THE BLOOD --" he couldn't continue.

"No!" Janice screamed, her hands holding her mouth. "But -- that was months ago --"

Dr. Jackson slowly nodded. "The entire East Coast has been eating -- ME!"

Re:Panic! (1)

addaon (41825) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975590)

Consider "Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand" for a slightly more mature discussion of this topic.

Re:Panic! (1)

S.P.B.Wylie (983357) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975650)

Dr. Jackson slowly nodded. "The entire East Coast has been eating -- ME!"

And you say that like it is a bad thing. You know, cannibals say we taste of chicken, and I for one like chicken.

This would seem to be safer than regular beef (1, Redundant)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975421)

And more ethical. No need to slaughter all those cows now (not that we really need to for our abundant food supply anyway). And there won't be the risk of getting CJD since there should be no neural tissue.

Oh Yeah.. and fish have feelings too... (0, Offtopic)

bagboy (630125) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975425)

Right CowboyNeal... Geeze this is a "tech" forum. Why not leave the Peta dialogue for forums more suited. When did slashdot become a catch-all?

Re:Oh Yeah.. and fish have feelings too... (1)

audacity242 (324061) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975489)

News for nerds. Stuff that matters.

That means, well, more than just tech. Such as the ethical questions that come with tech. Deal with it.

Re:Oh Yeah.. and fish have feelings too... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975517)

Wow... I'm actually aroused....

Unrelated (1)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975431)

Personally I'd love to see us progress to the point where it was possible to grow just the meat itself without the animal. That would end all the ethical issues with raising an animal for food, potential issues from mad cow disease, bird flu and whatever the next media induced panic is."
I'd like to see that too, but what does that have to do with this story?

Re:Unrelated (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975486)

And if you RTFA, you'll find that it's not even talking about cloning 'beef'. It's about cloning the cow which, when slaughtered, becomes 'beef'.

This is still whole organism cloning, i.e. the animal will still be born as a calf, raised for several years to ideal weight and then slaughtered. So how exactly are you going to 'end all ethical issues with raising an animal for food'?

Talk about 'media induced' hype...

Where do I start? (0, Flamebait)

Spackler (223562) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975439)

Ok, so many comments, so little time:

"Personally I'd love to see us progress to the point where it was possible to grow just the meat"

Dude. your personal issues do not belong on /.

That would end all the ethical issues with raising an animal for food

There is an ethical issue? Get real you pansy and eat some steaks. Even the bible says we can eat them (as long as they are uncleaven of hoof). If God didn't have a problem with it, I should?

Re:Where do I start? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975645)

"There is an ethical issue? Get real you pansy and eat some steaks. Even the bible says we can eat them (as long as they are uncleaven of hoof). If God didn't have a problem with it, I should?"

Dude. your theological issues do not belong on /.

Finally, our own meat. (4, Interesting)

w33t (978574) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975440)

I was just talking about this the other day as I was enjoying a burrito. I love this idea so much, and yet there are those who find it somehow repulsive.

How can growing meat be seen as more repulsive than the murder assembly lines at slaughterhouses?

My more stable-minded vegetarian friends gladly welcome this - as their food choices are equally health and ethics based.

Don't go thinking that all vegitarians hate the taste of beef. That red meat has got some major building blocks in it - and meat is a very good source of the basic building blocks your body needs.

You can think of meat as "pre-fabricated" building materials for your body - since the animal who owned it before you has already done much of the work needed to convert the raw materials into useful proteins.

I love this idea, I would much rather make my own meat than take it from a nice, innocent bovine who happens to be using it at the moment.

And this actually brings up a somewhat...uh, weird question.

If meat is a great building-block food - and certain meats are better for certain things...then might we design the "perfect" meat for human consumption?...if so, and this is the disturbing part, might we actually splice our own DNA into the transgenic mix?

Could this be considered a form of cannibalism?

Ah the future, so fun to turn everything on it's head.

Re:Finally, our own meat. (4, Funny)

Biff Stu (654099) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975491)

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The Soylent Corporation

Re:Finally, our own meat. (1)

rlp (11898) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975548)

SOYLENT GREEN IS ... network connection closed

Re:Finally, our own meat. (1)

w33t (978574) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975638)

haha!

Fry: What if the secret ingredient is... people!?
Leela: Oh, there's already a soda like that. Soylent Cola.
Fry: Oh, how is it?
Leela: It varies from person to person. ;]

Re:Finally, our own meat. (1)

naoursla (99850) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975547)

I read a science fiction story about that many year ago. Meat was grown in a vat and pretty much every imaginable type of meat had been grown and marketed -- including some extinct species. Some clever person came out with a mystery meat that turned out to be the best meat ever. It was eventually revealed to be human.

I think the lesson there is to never eat anything labeled "mystery meat".

Re:Finally, our own meat. (1)

maynard (3337) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975617)

*smacks forehead*

I spent my entire childhood eating 'mystery meat' from the school cafeteria... Oh fuck!

NO, not our own 'meat'. (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975577)

RTFA.

Then discover that it still involves raising beef, then slaughtering them. In the meantime, they'll also be living on feed lots, and pumped full of hormones and anti-biotics just like they are now. Wonder why you've got nice tits, big boy?

Vegetarians will have great problems with this. If you grow meat in a vat, it's not going to work. You need to have muscle, and that muscle has to be worked. Are you going to run it via an old Compaq running Windows 98? Here: have some of this stuff, we used the 2.6.16 kernel as its muscle exerciser. See how good it tastes on the barbie?

No. Not soon, and not if RTFA.

Re:NO, not our own 'meat'. (1)

Gemini_25_RB (997440) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975608)

Do the electric impulse "muscle stimulizers" actually work? Maybe an electric pulse through the mythical "vat" could get some muscles to grow... And if we're actually engineering the meat to grow in small sections, we should be able to make the natural muscle:fat ratio a bit more ideal.

Obligatory mangled quotation (5, Funny)

cunina (986893) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975441)

Begun, this clone BBQ has.

Re:Obligatory mangled quotation (2, Funny)

EnsilZah (575600) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975475)

Execute Order 66.
With some extra sauce please.

CowboyNeal (1)

nitehawk214 (222219) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975457)

Personally I'd love to see us progress to the point where it was possible to grow just the meat itself without the animal.
 
Wouldnt this make the cowboy profession obsolete? And this comming from a self proclaimed cowboy?

Cloned McBeef... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975460)

Haven't McDonald's been serving that for years?

With apologies to Norm and Cliff... (1)

attemptedgoalie (634133) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975498)

You thought that was beef? That was bef!

What's bef?

What what fucking what (0, Troll)

(TK2)Dessimat0r (669581) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975472)

The beef would taste like shit. The lean tissue has to be used by an animal for it to taste good.

Eat the right meat Neo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975478)

www.themeatrix.com

Pick one or the other... (1)

RandomPrecision (911416) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975480)

"That would end all the ethical issues with raising an animal for food, potential issues from mad cow disease, bird flu and whatever the next media induced panic is."

So these things weren't threats at all (media-induced panic), but you think cloned food is a good idea just because they save us from these non-existent threats? Eh?

Not that I'm afraid of any of those, or that I think cloned beef is a bad idea, but you contradict your reasons for supporting it, do you not?

Needs good marketing, though (3, Interesting)

qengho (54305) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975495)

Damn Interesting ran an article last year about NASA research into vat-grown meat for long space journeys [damninteresting.com] . It points out that "meat developed in this way is essentially a cultured muscle tumor", and so isn't very appetizing:

"... one has to wonder whether these meat machines will become the source of cheap meat for the massive underclass of the future. The rich will dine on corn-fed Iowa beef while the poor masses slave away in the underground factories, lunching on cultured meat tumor-chow laced with obedience-enhancing drugs. It seems almost inevitable.

Sorry guys: (1)

Punchcardz (598335) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975504)

This isn't using tisue culture to produce prime rib in a vat. This is about taking and using meat as a starting point for cloning another full animal. Sorry, PETA won't like this either, nor will it be safe from prion diseases (since that has more to do with feeding of animals, as opposed to the genetic origin of the critter.

Forget beef... (5, Funny)

lawpoop (604919) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975507)

What about cloned sex workers?

Re:Forget beef... (2, Funny)

maynard (3337) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975647)

They wouldn't taste as good either.

BtAF has already covered this... (3, Funny)

Twisted64 (837490) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975511)

...as far as I can see, nobody has posted the Bob the Angry Flower comic [angryflower.com] yet. AWESOMELY funny and somehow totally on topic at the same time :-)

Delicacy (2, Funny)

spurdy (590954) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975513)

Cloned beef and cabbage. Yummm!

Panic (1)

rocketman768 (838734) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975520)

"Whatever the next media induced panic is" would be the growing of the meat...

please sir... (1)

pabens (979948) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975523)

can I have some more of your tasty soylent green burgers?

I don't think so. (4, Interesting)

mrsbrisby (60242) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975524)

potential issues from mad cow disease, bird flu and whatever the next media induced panic is."
I'm not so sure about that.

Consider that the dangerous bacteria and viruses you're talking about, would only have a single organism to target, and we'd run the risk of a single lucky virus taking out the world's entire meat supply.

Unless of course, they are right, and there is no evolution- and every organism is the same as it was when the planet was summoned into existence over the course of a particularly shady six day run. In which case, we have nothing to fear, because new viruses are not mutating into existance, and we only need to protect this meat from the dangers that exist right now and just wait until all the mad-cow viruses go extinct.

I'm not sure I want to live in either world, so excuse me while I go take a chew on this helpless animal here.

I've got an idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975529)

Why don't we cure cancer first?

Then we can worry about cloning beef.

Popularist Scientists indeed. >:-(

End all ethical issues? (1)

Trayal (592715) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975555)

"...end all the ethical issues with raising an animal for food, potential issues from mad cow disease, bird flu and whatever the next media induced panic is."

No media enduced panic for cloned meat products?

Bwaaaah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha~!

Slightly genitically engineered veggies have already been causing controversy for awhile.

...Extinction....maybe... (1)

Gemini_25_RB (997440) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975565)

I was just thinking: If we started cloning a specific Cow for all our beef needs, why would we still need other cattle? When the price of the cloned beef drops to a reasonable level compared to "natural" beef, the incentive for the old practice is gone. So...what happens then? Would anyone notice if the natural cow went extinct? Would anyone really care?

Re:...Extinction....maybe... (1)

icegreentea (974342) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975603)

turns out some people dont mind paying more for the "real", "original", "natural" (etc etc) stuff. that more or less goes for everything. example would be organic crops. also, im pretty sure someone will notice if the "natrual" cow went extinct. once again, for example they're raising hell over GM crops, and they arent even coming close to replacing "natrual" crops any time soon. there may always be a place for the uncloned cow. even if it is still our stomachs.

I don't care about cloned beef... (1)

despisethesun (880261) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975566)

...but I would like to see them be able to grow chicken skin without the rest of the chicken. Properly prepared and crispified, it's the best part of the bird, clogged arteries be damned!

All I have to say is... (0, Troll)

dark-br (473115) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975567)

... I'M TIRED OF THOSE M***FU***RS BEEF CLONES IN THOSE M****FU****RS TAKE AWAYS!

Beef Clones on a Take Away, next summer in a cinema near you!

(i'm not yelling stupid lameness filter!)

Instead of cloning (1)

Scoldog (875927) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975578)

Why don't we raise suicidal cows?

"Right, now that you've made your decision, I'll just pop off into the kitchen and shoot myself. Don't worry, I'll be very humane!"

Re:Instead of cloning (1)

Gemini_25_RB (997440) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975584)

... And when the cows decide to start jumping from buildings...damn, that would hurt!

Woah... (1)

Fluffy_Kitten (911430) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975579)

Anyone else read that as "Cloned Beer coming soon"?

WHAT ethical issues... (4, Insightful)

wcitechnologies (836709) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975588)

Ethical issues? We've been raising animals for food for thousands of years, it has been one of the keys to our dominance as a species. Don't believe everything PETA tells you.

Re:WHAT ethical issues... (1)

Gemini_25_RB (997440) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975657)

Just because we've been doing something for a long time doesn't make it right, just customary or traditional. While I don't have too many issues with the raising of cattle as food, due to their really low intelligence (I wonder if cows are inbred to the point of this absolute retardation, or if tearing off your own udders by stepping on them is instictual), the whole force-feeding and use of hormones is kinda sketchy. The cows don't have to do anything anymore, so their time on the ranch is about as personally meaningful to the cow as their time in my mouth.

Easy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15975591)

"I'd love to see us progress to the point where it was possible to grow just the meat itself without the animal."

That's so easy. Just lobotomize the animal soon after it's born, hook it up to electromechanical life support and timed hormone/nutrient injections, and voila!, you have a brain-dead non-entity "cow" making meat for you.

Patent pending.

This can lead to only one thing... (2, Funny)

Xaroth (67516) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975595)

Deja Food... the feeling that you've had this meal before.

Clone the fat (1)

Centurix (249778) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975625)

If they could clone the fat that goes on the steak that makes it taste good I'd eat it. Then I'd use their other device for de-cloning my fat afterwards.

De-cloning. Wait, I've just invented the fat mux/demux. I'm going to be rich!

Roommates (0, Troll)

jrmiller84 (927224) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975643)

My roommates are vegetarians. As soon as they catch wind of this they'll be up in arms about cloning being unethical as well, bah. I eat meat in front of them just out of spite. We've been omnivores since the beginning of time, what's the big deal? I don't see predators in the wild choosing a lovely head of lettuce over a lovely head of human.
"For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three." [thebestpag...iverse.net]
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Personally, I'd Like to See This Progress to... (2, Funny)

Telephone Sanitizer (989116) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975651)

Personally, I'd like to see this progress to the point where we can grow Shakey's Pizza restaurants without the use of embryonic stem cells.

Obligatory HHGTG reference (4, Funny)

jellybear (96058) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975660)

The only truly ethical solution is to genetically engineer a cow that wants to be eaten. Preferably, the cow should be engineered to be sufficiently intelligent to go up to the diner and tell them how delicious it is, and ask them how they would like to eat it.

What about Diversity? (4, Insightful)

TheSimkin (639033) | more than 8 years ago | (#15975661)

I am far more concerned about the long term effects on the genetic diversity of our live stock vs is it healthy to eat.

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