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Official WoW Expansion Talent Information

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the feeding-off-table-scraps dept.

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smartidiotaz writes "Blizzard has finally released more information about the talent trees after leaks broke out over the internet. " As typical, every class thinks every other class got a better deal, but the Pallies get to mean it ;)

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What a summary... (3, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996536)

Slashdot finally releases guidelines for a proper summary length after an extra short summary left readers stratching their mousepads.

That won't work, Petunia (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996550)

This is total crap, Petunia. Why don't you finally admit that you're a member of the Taiwanese Communist Party and that you're trying to make everyone here accept the "factuality" of gay cowboys?

Question (-1, Troll)

Overly Critical Guy (663429) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996757)

What are "Pallies?" Taco's summary makes no sense to me.

Re:Question (2, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996773)

Probably a member of the Paladin class. Or maybe Taco's drunk beer buddies running around naked.

Re:Question (1)

Weremooseadillo (991957) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996971)

They are, in fact, members of the paladin class. I thought that was pretty common slang, but I guess not.

Talent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996557)

Insert sound of gong.

Re:Talent? (5, Funny)

skoaldipper (752281) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996625)

I have a real talent for sitting on my ass while snacking on a can of Pringles in front of a computer, fantasizing I'm King Theoden making sweet snoo snoo to Liv Tyler on my cold castle marble floor. I've never played WoW before, but what talent tree class do I belong to?

Re:Talent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996721)

I think it's called "CmdrTaco".

Re:Talent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996802)

Sounds like most paladins I know...

Re:Talent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996953)

Your suggested race/class combination is:

Troll Dickhead

Re:Talent? (1)

I Like Pudding (323363) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997368)

Human Paladin

Um... Hunters? Druids? (1)

Generalisimo Zang (805701) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996559)

Well, since my main character in WoW is a Hunter, and my alternate character is a Druid... I'm somewhat underwhelmed by the "coming soon" notices contained in the link for those two classes.

Re:Um... Hunters? Druids? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996592)

could be an 'evil paladin', like the variant D&D Paladins (Paladin of Tyranny / Paladin of Slaughter)

Re:Um... Hunters? Druids? (2, Funny)

Cybert4 (994278) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996593)

I wouldn't worry too much. I doubt they'll just leave them with nothing. Patience!

Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996562)

Serious question, not a slam.

I played through the 1-60 level grind on my free month, battlegrounds seemed a joke with the wait times, and WoW raiding doesn't seem very interesting(at least IMO compared to EQ raiding a few years ago).

I know a lot of MMORPG players and not one of them are still playing WoW - which is strange because the sampling of the people I know has pretty well tracked player populations for every previous MMORPG over the past six to seven years I've been playing them.

Where are all these WoW players and what are they doing while they are logged in all these months since the game went live?

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (2, Funny)

Le Marteau (206396) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996588)

More importantly, where are all the eucher players? It used to be all the rage. I know a lot of card players, but not one of them are still playing eucher.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (2, Funny)

Chris Pimlott (16212) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996677)

I admit, things are a bit slow now, but when the "Cards of Fury" expansion comes out next month, with two new suits, I guarantee there's going to be tons of people coming back.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996712)

"More importantly, where are all the eucher players?..."

Someone with your obviously tremendous intellect really shouldn't be wasting time posting on Slashdot.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (1)

metroplex (883298) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997289)

And Pokémon TGC? Where have all Pokémon TC players gone?

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (4, Informative)

Generalisimo Zang (805701) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996634)

I stopped playing WoW for four months or so, but re-activated my account when I heard about the cross-server battlegrounds and the upcoming revamp of the Honor system.

The wait times on Alterac Valley average about 2 minutes, across all hours of the day.

For Warsong or Arathi Basin, you might have to wait up to 8 minutes in queue in the off-hours, but during peak hours the queues for AB and WSG are less than two minutes.

Also, it looks like the upcoming changes to the honor system will eliminate DKs... so, more world PvP.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996665)

Hmm, things have improved quite a bit with pvp.

When I quit WoW late last year wait times were in the 45-60 minute range.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15997107)

They originally had problems with group matching due to battlegrounds only being across one server, but with the new linked system where it's about 10x the servers feeding to the battle grounds, it's fixed wait times for the most part.

They've periodically added raid content, too, but for once they did it well enough that every battle is possible without tuning, even if it does take significant gear upgrading for a fight or two.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (1)

nih (411096) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996740)

eh? well that's cleared up the confusion for me, and i hope everyone else.

Everquest 2 / Vanguard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996662)

Is anyone playing Everquest 2 these days? I've been playing it the past couple of days and it seems way better than WoW.

Can't wait until Vanguard comes out.

Re:Everquest 2 / Vanguard (1)

deathy_epl+ccs (896747) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997036)

Is anyone playing Everquest 2 these days? I've been playing it the past couple of days and it seems way better than WoW.

Really? I installed EQ2 because I got myself a buff new box and wanted to push it, and I'm able to turn everything up all the way in EQ2 but I gotta say I was very underwhelmed. The textures were for the most part terrible, the terrain engine was ugly and generally speaking I failed to get what so many of my friends that are harcore EQ fans mean when they say "it looks so realistic!"

Vanguard, OTOH, looks like it's going to be good looking. Hope it plays well too.

Re:Everquest 2 / Vanguard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15997319)

"Is anyone playing Everquest 2 these days?"

From the latest charts, no.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996672)

Spoken by someone who got ganked in AV a couple times, saw the first couple bosses in Molten Core and incorrectly assumed that was all the WoW-end game had to offer.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (3, Informative)

NFNNMIDATA (449069) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997050)

This is a good point, Molten Core is really an awful instance and feels like it was thrown together hastily. It's basically a big quake deathmatch map that someone added big ass rock monsters to. I was pretty let down once I saw the whole thing and realized that was it. I almost never go back, although most guilds seem to have it down to a one-night affair now. Blackwing Lair is much more interesting (with all the event rooms, each of which has its own peculiar strategy), and so are Zul Gurub, Ahn Qirahj, etc. So people who went raiding in early '05 and quit based on that are missing out, but that is Blizzard's fault for not putting some good stuff in there at release.

Because you never played the game. (5, Insightful)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996682)

You got it right, you did the grind.

As such you would be clueless as to why people continue to play the game. See, they are playing a game. You were in a race, with what no one knows, but obviously you did not come to play. First and foremost, you cannot win at a MMORPG, so where is the rush?

Apparently the MMORPG crowd you hang with is a minority. Then again people with your mindset normally are. Do you jump from game to game? If you only spent a month in WOW I can't see how you spend more in any other.

Yeah this borders on bashing but if I had a PENNY for everyone who claims WOW is dieing or that everyone they know doesn't play it I would be so rich it would be silly.

Re:Because you never played the game. (4, Insightful)

aafiske (243836) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997060)

Mighty high flame setting on your stove there, boss.

No, WoW isn't dying, but the grandparent had a point. You seriously run out of things to do in the game at a certain point. Maybe he races through things and reached it early.

I played for about a year, took my time, levelled up a warrior and a priest (one horde, one alliance). And you know what? It got real tedious, real grindy, and real pointless. I sat and thought 'Why am I logging in? To grind to get a better item/new skill. So I can get better items/new skills more effectively. Huh. Waitaminnit.'

WoW is not at all unique with regard to this problem, but it's not immune to it either.

Re:Because you never played the game. (2, Interesting)

snuf23 (182335) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997208)

Same here. Played for about 10 months. One level 60 character, a 43 and assorted alts in the 20s and 30s. I wasn't into high end raiding and PVP was time consuming. I got bored and the little irritating things started to bug me more and more. Needing to tweak my interface and macros for every patch, having to wait in a queue to login, having to wait in a queue to get in battlegrounds, having to wait an hour or more to get a raid group together.
I really enjoyed the game but I didn't see any point in continuing to play as I couldn't find anything to do where the fun outweighed the annoyance.

Re:Because you never played the game. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15997363)

High end raiding can be interesting for a while but fades fast too, it does not save the game by any means.

I got sick of raiding for items that don't drop, struggling to get parties to raid some place I need, raiding the same place over and over again for the same stuff, with dwindling returns.

WoW became absolutely tedious in the end. Ultimately I deleted my lvl 60 and deleted my account. Another 10 levels of slog ultimately won't affect this game. It's long lasting appeal is to the dedicated Obsessive Compulsive Disorder types. I left and I'm glad I did. Stand in Iron Forde and take a look around, everyone lvl 60 with the same gear with minor variations, runaway inflation in the AH and useless unmarketable "skills".... zzzzzzz. Sorry who cares about some axe or the next set of shoulder pads. Repeating the same raid 10 times for it holds about as much "gameplay" appeal to me now as visiting the dentist.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (3, Interesting)

AstrumPreliator (708436) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996694)

"Why Are People Still Playing WoW?"

Maybe they're not still playing it so much as they just started playing it? I picked the game up in July as I had no interest in playing it before then (I'm not a large MMO fan). But a friend who recently bought a new computer that could run WoW bought it so I did.

I'm sure there are still players that have been playing since the very beginning but I doubt they're the majority. I'm sure most of the people playing are either those who didn't buy the game until just recently or those who put it down for several months or longer and have decided to pick it back up again.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996698)

Well, my son played the beta, but found it too boring, and everything I've seen severely underwowed this Starcraft and Diablo II and Warcraft I/II player.

He's mostly playing flash anime games, I'm mostly doing the Sims until the Wii comes out with Spore and Animal Crossing and hopefully a Diablo spinoff.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (1)

Damvan (824570) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997021)

A little offtopic, but if you are a big Diablo II fan, you might want to take a look at Titan Quest.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (2, Funny)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996732)

The smug sense of superiority it affords us over people who play Everquest, Guild Wars, and EVE.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (2, Funny)

Andy Somnifac (971725) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997357)

Those of us still playing UO don't even get a mention? Geez...

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996792)

Nothing else to play.

There really are no other online games that are any good right now. EQ2 has some cool stuff, but the population is way too low. There are some promising titles on the horizon but nothing coming out soon.

That god the Wii and PS3 are almost out, outside of Civ4, pc gaming is dead.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (2, Funny)

mordors9 (665662) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996804)

Funny. I don't remember any of the things you mention in Wizard of Wor. I will have to get out my Atari 800XL and play it again.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (1)

andy9701 (112808) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996842)

I can't really say about the raiding (I'm enjoying it, for now at least), but the latest patch did improve the battlegrounds a bit, now that you can be matched up with players on servers other than your own. Generally, it's only a 15 minute wate for Warsong Gultch or Arathi Basin, and 45-60 minutes for Alterac Valley (it'll be interesting to see how the Honor Bonus this weekend will affect these times). Granted, those times still aren't great, but they are much better than the 30-45 minute waits for WSG and AB, and 1-2+ hours for AV on any typical day.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (1)

codeonezero (540302) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996847)

[quote]played through the 1-60 level grind on my free month, battlegrounds seemed a joke with the wait times, and WoW raiding doesn't seem very interesting(at least IMO compared to EQ raiding a few years ago).[/quote] This problem was depending on which faction had the most population on the realm you choose. However, they recently added Cross-realm pvp with several realms being put into the same Battle group and now you don't have to wait as long for pvp battlegrounds. Kind of hard to answer your raiding concerns without you actually stating them. Personally, Blizzard has been learning and places like Naxx are a hit. One thing to consider is that the typical WoW MMORPG player may not be your typical EQ or some other mmorpg player. That means that you get possibly a new social group of players entering a game like WoW than you would have had in EQ and therefore unlikely that the sampling of people you know has the same taste for something like WoW than others. Many people I know in my guild have been long time gamers and only a few are hard core mmorpg players from other such games.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (2, Insightful)

chreekat (467943) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996913)

Jesus Christ dude, one month? No wonder you got sick of it. If I got to level 60 in one month, not only would I not want to play WoW anymore, I would also want to kill myself.

-chreekat

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (5, Insightful)

alexgieg (948359) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996916)

You shouldn't have rushed to get to level 60. I played for 4 hours a day at a slow pace, enjoying the storyline, getting to know the game world, learning (and changing!) professions, participating in roleplay events and PvP, helping other players inside and outside my guild, doing lots of non-experience rewarding quests (the gray ones) etc., and by doing so I reached level 60 after eight (yes, eight) months. It was much, much more enjoyable than going the "power leveling" path.

And since I reached 60 I'm still playing the same character, slowly acquiring gold to purchase my epic mount, trying to get some end game gear but not being obsessed with it, going in some raids with my guild, fine-tuning my addon collection, and so on and so forth.

So, I'd say that WoW is kinda like a Mac: an integral experience. If you focus on a single aspect of the game it gets boring pretty fast. If you try to do all it allows you to do, then there's almost no limit to what you get from it. I am very far from getting bored, that's for sure. :)

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (4, Insightful)

Floody (153869) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997010)

Serious question, not a slam.

I played through the 1-60 level grind on my free month, battlegrounds seemed a joke with the wait times, and WoW raiding doesn't seem very interesting(at least IMO compared to EQ raiding a few years ago).

I know a lot of MMORPG players and not one of them are still playing WoW - which is strange because the sampling of the people I know has pretty well tracked player populations for every previous MMORPG over the past six to seven years I've been playing them.

Where are all these WoW players and what are they doing while they are logged in all these months since the game went live?



Many of us are still there. Not necessarily with our original characters, but still ....

Myself, I played from beta onwards. Not continously, I've taken multi-month breaks. Early on I spent most of my time exploring the 1-60 content, most of which is soloable or doable in five-man groups. Then I spent much time exploring the pvp aspects. Most recently, I've taken to the end-game (i.e. "raid") content, which is more challanging, but only by virtue of there being little room for error (and learning techniques for getting 40 people to deal w/ some rather intricate encounter mechanics).

Why do I continue with a game that is considered rather pedestrian by the hard-core mmorpg crowd? Mostly, I suppose, because I don't like mmorpgs, and wow doesn't "feel" like one (in the traditional sense). It's fast paced, you kill quickly and you likewise can die quickly. But more than that, buried behind the accessibility of the game that has made it so popular is a rich and sophisticated set of mechanics. These mechanics were originally designed to create as much diversity as possible between the different classes (although I fear those responsible for this design are long gone, as the trend has definitely been towards homogenization). Each class has a significantly different feel to it and requires a different playstyle in order to excel, while simultaneously retaining class-specific complexities. These traits don't usually become fully apparent until one has reached the higher levels with a given class.

While these sophistications certainly exist in WoW, the other edge of the sword is that, quite obviously, mass accessibility was a primary design concern; meaning that while you can become very good at the intricacies of a particular class and playstyle, it's not exactly required in order to experience all the content. The fallout from this is that the majority of the (very large) playerbase isn't terribly good at playing the game (and there exists little incentive for them to improve). Similarly, with a small group of proficient players who have mastered these intricacies, one can easily move through late/end-game content that most players would consider very difficult (without high-end "raiding" gear itemization).

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (4, Insightful)

Bob9113 (14996) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997076)

I know a lot of MMORPG players and not one of them are still playing WoW - which is strange because the sampling of the people I know has pretty well tracked player populations for every previous MMORPG over the past six to seven years I've been playing them.

Where are all these WoW players and what are they doing while they are logged in all these months since the game went live?


I play WoW in a decent sized guild. A solid 50% of them are not gamers. My brother is the perfect example. He plays two games on the computer - WoW, and a poker tutorial game.

Which may suggest the answer to your question: You know a lot of hard-core gamers, to whom WoW may not be attractive. It is EQ easy-mode, after all. But, to a great many people like my brother who grew up with video games but were never hard-core about it, WoW is a pleasant distraction for an hour or three a week.

I was once a hard-core gamer, but I got distracted by other shiny things along the way. Now I play WoW a bit, and it's fun. Hard-core me probably wouldn't have liked it much - there is too much chance, not enough reward for mad skillz. Casual me finds it to be just about right.

Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15997191)

I've been playing WoW for about 2 years now. It is the first, and to be fair only, MMORPG I've played. I've spent years playing console games however (I cut my teeth on the original Nintendo). I play a couple hours a day most days. In this time I've only managed to level one 60, so I'm amazed you got one in just a month.

To answer your question as to what I do while I'm logged in, I spent the first 6-8 months getting to 60. Since then I've been dabbling in alts (it lets me check out other class skills, plus my guild is short on priests and mages) and when I play my main I'm either 5 manning instances for gear or raiding with my guild. Or doing a little farming for mats I might need for a crafted item, though I really dislike that portion of the game and don't do it often.

Having spent my years playing solo games I'm fascinated by the amount of coordination that goes into running a good 40 man MC run (as I've been in a couple really bad ones too). I also think ZG is a pretty fun way to spend an evening. I can't comment on the battlegrounds or the PvPing though, as I've never explored those aspects of the game.

So, for what it's worth, that's what one WoW player is doing online.

Horde Paladin? (1)

Gropo (445879) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996565)

Can someone please explain the logic in that? I'm trying to remedy the thought of a Paladin and an undead questing side-by-side.

Re:Horde Paladin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996582)

They are Blood Knights on the horde side.

Re:Horde Paladin? (5, Interesting)

Kesch (943326) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996651)

It's ver simple really. The Blood Elves are a kickass race. When a kickass race wants divine power, they don't ask for it; they just take it. In the Blood Elves' case, they made a Naru(being of light) into their bitch and their paladins tap into divine energy siphoned from it.

So blood elf paladins' holy power does not come with any EULA saying they have to have a +5 stick of morality up their ass.

Re:Horde Paladin? (3, Interesting)

thesandtiger (819476) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996784)

Aside from the "lore" explanations given by the other poster, putting paladin-like (they're "Blood Knights" dontcha know!) characters on the Horde side and shaman characters on the Alliance side is supposedly allowing the designers to make MUCH more interesting instance encounters. Since they no longer have to worry about factional differences, they can implement ideas they had that would require certain classes etc.

Re:Horde Paladin? (1)

codeonezero (540302) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996808)

Simple lorelol ;-)

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Re:Horde Paladin? (0, Troll)

GmAz (916505) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996875)

The only reason I can see for it happening was because all the paladins out there cried loud enough because their character sucked compared to shamans. So Blizzard decided to give the Alliance the shaman class. But to make it fair, they wanted to give the horde a class too. They gave us Paladins. Was this really giving us a class? No. I doubt there will be many Horde Paladins out there but there will be a hell of a lot of Alliance Shamans because Shamans are a viable class that is fun to play. Palies are only good for their Aura and Devine Intervention in the high lvl raids. PS...NERF HUNTERS!!!

Re:Horde Paladin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996923)

The logic is quite simple - rather than actually address the issues faced by both shamans and paladins, they just allowed both factions access to both classes (granted, only for a certain race). While it appears some attention was given to the game mechanics originally, I have to wonder if the same people are the ones making updates and changes to said mechanics now!

Re:Horde Paladin? (1)

brkello (642429) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996939)

The Horde is not evil, it is just different. Paladins are merely holy warriors with the ability to heal. Both sides have faith, they just view things differently. In WoW, there is good and evil. There are evil humans, undead, orcs, night elves, etc. etc. So apparantly there are some good undead...or more accurately, some undead that you will put up with so that you can achieve a similar goal.

Re:Horde Paladin? (4, Interesting)

alexgieg (948359) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997346)

I beg to differ. While the Horde isn't clearly Evil, it's nonetheless slightly "more evil" than the Alliance.

Take the Orcs, for example: they allowed themselves to be near completely corrupted by demonic powers. They are now free from this corruption, sure, but in the end they lose in comparison to the Alliance, for the member races of the Alliance did not become corrupt, they fought against the Burning Legion's corruption so fiercely that they managed to avoid the corruption.

Now, look at the Undead (Forsaken): they, like the Orcs, managed to become free from the corruption. But a lot of the evil influence from the Burning Legion remains, just look at the biological experiments they do.

The new Blood Elves are addicted to magic, and their culture revolves around the idea that totaliarianism is A Good ThingTM. For instance, see how did they manage to get Paladins: they captured and enslaved a holy entity that would have given holy powers to them had they simply asked! But no, Blood Elves don't ask, Blood Elves take!

And the Trolls were cannibals that only gave up on cannibalism because the Orcs told them that they wouldn't be allowed to join the Horde if they kept doing that.

From the entire Horde, the only race that is clearly and plainly good are the Tauren. They're with the Horde due to their sense of duty, because the Orcs for having saved them, but that's it.

Now, let's look at the Alliance:

The villest thing the Night Elves did was to go around in a killing spree against Furbolgs, thinking all of them were corrupted and thus killing the minority that wasn't. They also built a new giant tree when their gods told them "no" (the shock! the horror!).

The Gnomes messed up badly and ended poisoning their own capital after being invaded by trolls. Now they have to live with the Dwarves.

The Dwarves dig big holes, what the Night Elves think violates "Mother Azeroth" (or something like that).

The Draenei had bad luck and ended in a forced landing in Azeroth while fighting the Burning Legion.

And the Humans, ah, the Humans! The most horrendous thing they did was not to pay the masons that rebuilt their capital, these masons now being pretty revolted with the nobles...

So, all things considered, I don't think both are equal in the moral level. The Horde is clearly, at least, a "bad neighbour". Were not for the existence of the much more evil Burning Legion, in comparison to which the Horde is made of saints, and the moral difference between the Alliance and the Horde would be really undisputable.

Re:Horde Paladin? (2, Funny)

ameoba (173803) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997391)

You're just saying that because you're Human.

Undead Paladin! (1)

Damvan (824570) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997037)

I won't be happy until I have an Undead Paladin!

Leaks (4, Funny)

rackhamh (217889) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996566)

leaks broke out over the internet

Well, that explains it. I *thought* the Internet was running a bit slow today...

Re:Leaks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996586)

Someone call a plumber, the tubes are leaking!

Re:Leaks (4, Funny)

gsn (989808) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996607)

Well you know the internet is not a dump truck. Its a series of tubes. And if you put an enormous amount of material... an enormous of material those tubes will be blocked up and if my staff send me an internet yesterday it'll get stuck in the tubes. But its much worse if the tubes are leaky. Your internet may never get to you if you have leaky tubes. If your tubes leak get them tied up.

(ducks)

Re:Leaks (1)

Hippynz (835181) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997320)

If you tie the tubes on the Internet, then the Internet will not be able to breed. This will reduce the number of viruses spreading (This is all based on the assumption that the Internet is female).

Leeroy Jeeeeennnnnnnkinss (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996642)

Let us not forget the true WoW hero http://www.leeroyjenkins.net/leeroy-jenkins-videos .htm [leeroyjenkins.net] Leeroy Jenkins!

Re:Leeroy (1)

Thisfox (994296) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996756)

Ah yes. But I don't see why he got so famous: every single Pally I've quested with occasionally becomes a "Pally-Kaze", to the disgust (and delight) of the rest of the party. He didn't do anything unusual.

Re:Leaks (1)

EEJD (901217) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996909)

Well, it IS just a series of pipes. Hang on, I think my staff just sent me an internet...

WoW, who gives a bards ass? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996571)

It's one thing to go frontpage with WoW issues that may actually have relevance to other multiplayer online games, but this is ridiculous.

Re:WoW, who gives a bards ass? (2, Insightful)

Overly Critical Guy (663429) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996765)

Well, look who posted it. It's CmdrTaco, the same guy who wrote a long, whiney, seven-page essay about the fact he had to change his World of Warcraft name because "Cmdr" violates the rule of no titles in nicknames. Taco's defense was that he had the nick for years, and goshdarned it, he's CmdrTaco of Slashdot, so he should get to keep it. It might be one of the most meaningless articles ever posted to Slashdot.

Re:WoW, who gives a bards ass? (2, Insightful)

brkello (642429) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996958)

Lots of people care. WoW has transcended the games section. You ask who gives a.....but you post anonymous because you know a lot of people do. The real question is..."who gives a" about your posts, Mr. anonymous.

Re:WoW, who gives a bards ass? (1)

StupidStan (773027) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997379)

obviously you do :)

News (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996574)

Hasn't WoW been posting the new talent trees since a month or two ago? Well, I can't get to the page at work, so I don't know if they changed them. But I know I'd been looking forward to redoing my rogues talents because they were nerfing one of them. Points more valuable elsewhere.

Re:News (3, Informative)

lewp (95638) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996783)

They've been systematically reviewing each class almost since the game came out. Most of the changes have been in the talent trees. Rogues had their review in the 1.12 patch, and their talents were changed.

This is different. This is the addition of new, higher tier (up to 41 point required) talents to coincide with the release of the expansion and the increasing of the level cap to 70.

Talent Icons (1)

Atlantis-Rising (857278) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996587)

Is it just me (I have never played WoW), but are all those Icons for Mage talents stolen from WC3? I can recognize dozens of them from previous games.

Re:Talent Icons (2, Informative)

moo083 (716213) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996613)

They are probably the same skills. I am a hunter in the game, and have a skill called True Shot Aura. I believe that skill does roughly the same thing and has the same icon. Its not like it was stolen anyways. Its the same company and the same universe and it came out about a year afterwards. Not a huge surprise and I don't see anything wrong with it.

Re:Talent Icons (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996614)

Technically, not "stolen", since Blizz owns both.

But yes, lots of the iconography is WC3 recycled. Unsurpisingly, since WoW is the sequel (in storyline, if not spirit) to WC3.

Look close enough, and you'll find WC2 and even original Warcraft: Orcs and Humans graphics (or at least icons inspired by those from that game).

Reuse at its finest. (Whether I am being ironic or sincere is left as an exercise for the reader.)

Re:Talent Icons (1)

Atlantis-Rising (857278) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996929)

Recycled in different roles, was what I meant by 'stolen'. Obviously it was not stolen in a copyright sense. It just somewhat surprises me that they didn't bother to design new 96x96 icons for their flagship game! (or whatever size they are.)

Re:Talent Icons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996626)

WoW was derived from WC3...the similarties are intentional.

Re:Talent Icons (0)

0xABADC0DA (867955) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996653)

No it wasn't, WoW was derived from Diablo II with a few simularaties to WC3 thrown in, mostly in the story. D2 was 1st person, had all the same classes, had skill trees, loot, etc.

Re:Talent Icons (1)

The Dalex (996138) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996670)

Diablo 2 was first person? Did we play the same game?

Re:Talent Icons (1)

Kesch (943326) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996729)

I'm going to take a stab at figuring out what the parent meant. I think he was trying to convey that Diablo was focused around a single avatar you chose instead of Warcraft where you were busy ordering around an entire army.

Re:Talent Icons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996746)

WTF? What are you smoking? First person... neither D2 or WoW (unless you zoom all the way in) is first person. The races and classes are all inspired from the Warcraft universe. The talent tree is just an augmentation system that has mechanics borrowed from the D2 skill tree idea.

Re:Talent Icons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996758)

seriously...who really cares. derived, stolen, whatever. you get the point

Re:Talent Icons (1)

racas (633636) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996633)

"ZOMG Blizzard made another game with Orcs in it!" World. Of. WARCRAFT. WTB [Clue] PST.

Re:Talent Icons (1)

GNUguy (55665) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996666)

"but are all those Icons for Mage talents stolen from WC3?"

Uh, it is (W)orld (O) (W)arcraft, since it's part of the same game series, I don't think it is considered stealing.

-G

Re:Talent Icons (1)

merreborn (853723) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996707)

are all those Icons for Mage talents stolen from WC3?

I know for a fact WoW has been using WC3 icons since early beta.

I'm sure it's been the same since day 1.

WOW server can't take the load...how strange (1)

ianchaos (160825) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996602)

Why Slashdot...why? Blizzards servers can barely handle a normal days worth of traffic. But to post an article covering expansion information here of all places...that's just cruel.

Re:WOW server can't take the load...how strange (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996644)

Especially if Digg already got there first again

Re:WOW server can't take the load...how strange (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996754)

*yawn*

Re:WOW server can't take the load...how strange (1)

fyndor (895340) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997032)

OMG Slashdot, do u get sick enjoyment from crashing servers every other time you post something. I went to the page ealier in the day, then Slashdot posted this post, read a few comments, then decided to go back and have another look and it had been Slashdotted :( Doh

Re:WOW server can't take the load...how strange (1)

fyndor (895340) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997063)

Lol not only that page but the wow website in general is down, man this sight is powerful. The load slashdot creates on a webserver should be the basis for load testing of websites, I don't think it can get much worse than this. Man who needs elaborate DOS attacks when you can just add a link in a Slashdot post and *poof* no more website

Summons (1)

Yomic (998451) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996618)

Shamans have two different elementals to choose from while mage has to go DEEP into frost to get theirs. Sucks for fire mages, but Invis is a nice addition :). Warriors get a move to block the next attack of another party member... Genious! And yes, pallies spells are kinda lacking :/. Overall, it's pretty mediocer, but I'm sure Blizz will get the unbalancedness out before the final product (hopefully).

The question is.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996628)

who cares?

Re:The question is.... (0, Flamebait)

fire_missionary (989800) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996696)

Not many of the Slashdotters thats for sure!

Wow... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996722)

Looks like a real geekfest.

Bloody Hell... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996723)

Warriors got the shaft as usual.

So uhh (1)

Crilen007 (922989) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996764)

Is there a strategy guide out yet?

CodeMonkey skills? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15996771)

WoW should have some skills that are reflective of the players...

Marvel's gonna be *pissed* (5, Funny)

shigelojoe (590080) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996785)

From the Paladin talent calculator:

"Avenger's Shield
Hurls a Holy Shield at the enemy, dealing 270 to 330 Holy damage, dazing them then jumping to nearby enemies. Affects three targets."

Why not just change the class name to Captain America while you're at it?

Nice Paladin Improvements (2, Insightful)

andy9701 (112808) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996892)

As typical, every class thinks every other class got a better deal, but the Pallies get to mean it ;)


While that was said in jest, I would actually say that Paladin's didn't get a raw deal this time. Not only can we be viable tanks, but also a lot of the improvments focus on Paldins being in the thick of things, going melee on mobs, instead of standing in the back and healing. That's a definite improvement in my book.

Re: (1)

andy_fish (557104) | more than 8 years ago | (#15996954)

As typical, every class thinks every other class got a better deal,

Warlock here, I don't think that at all! Heh heh heh.

DPS warrs get nerfed... again (1)

crumshot (746676) | more than 8 years ago | (#15997093)

Imagine that, DPS warrs get fucked again. Compared to the other revealed class trees, arms/fury warriors get the shaft once more. *sigh* I think the only thing I'm really excited about is the %hit skill in the fury tree. I've been wanting one of those forever. Props to Blizz for putting that in. Imp Pummel is pretty nice too, but the 41 pt talent is pretty lackluster IMO, especially because of the cooldown. Being very well-geared, I already generate enough rage to spam Bloodthirst and Whirlwind as it is. Rage isn't an issue for me.

At least the new prot skills are very very nice. Seems Blizz is slowly pushing us toward a tank-only class which is sad as the well-geared DPS warrs in my guild can put up just as much damage as a rogue. It makes full prot a lot more viable of a tank than a DPS/prot hybrid spec now.

Oh yeah, anyone notice how Blizz quietly nerfed Flurry? Now it only procs on a white hit instead of a special (BT, WW, etc). Awesome.

-- 7/33/11 NE warr

Re:DPS warrs get nerfed... again (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15997275)

"which is sad as the well-geared DPS warrs in my guild can put up just as much damage as a rogue."

  Which is exactly why DPS Warriors were not improved much. They have no business outdamaging rogues with equivalent gear.

  Rogues wear leather. Rogues cannot tank. Rogues have no taunting abilities. The only thing they bring to a raid is enormous damage and the luxury of not having to worry about a mana pool. The only other primary ability they have unique to them is Stealth, which is currently almost completely worthless in raid level PVE.

  If a Warrior is matching damage with a rogue, and also gets to tank in a pinch by swapping in a shield, or taunt in an emergency to save a caster then why have rogues?

  Warriors have been ridiculously overpowered since they buffed itemization past Arcanite Reaper. Since Rage generation scales with damage, the advent of legendary weapons and epics with dps over 70 has given them far too much power in long drawn out fights (where rage management is never an issue) Finally they are able to do someting about it in the expansion and they are going through with it.

 
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