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Former MS Security Strategist Joins Mozilla

ScuttleMonkey posted about 8 years ago | from the jumping-the-fence dept.

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Handset writes "Former Microsoft security strategist Window Snyder is joining Mozilla to lead the company's effort to protect its range of desktop applications from malicious hacker attacks. eweek.com reports that Snyder, who was responsible for security sign-off for Microsoft's Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows Server 2003, will spearhead Mozilla's security strategy and improve its communications with external hackers and bug finders."

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MS Trojan (5, Funny)

wardk (3037) | about 8 years ago | (#16056150)

a human trojan has been inserted into Mozilla?

glad Safari uses the khtml engine...

As long as she replaces the useless Asa Dotzler (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056206)

Since Asa Dotzler of Mozilla keeps deleting me from his blog, this is just to publicize. I asked a very simple question in an Ask Asa a while back: Who was responsible for the testing/QA failure that led to a security regression in Firefox 1.0.4, how will they be censured, and what is being done to prevent a similar recurrence. He didn't answer and has deleted every comment I post, in which I've said the same thing. I think it's a fair question. Not answering is pretty crappy, but censoring just because he spends too much time being 'visible' and not enough time actually doing QA is truly pathetic. Asa isn't the funloving guy his blog projects, he can be a complete idiot too. Spread the word. I know this doesn't fit into the rose-tinted view of prominent open source projects with 'many eyeballs' having better security, but it's true. The sad fact is that the entity investing most in automatic code checking tools, mandatory design and test cycles, mandatory threat modeling, regular code audits, etc. is Microsoft. Mozilla security practices are rubbish and the sooner someone publicizes the failure the better it will be. Hopefully Snyder is the person for the job.

Re:As long as she replaces the useless Asa Dotzler (3, Insightful)

krell (896769) | about 8 years ago | (#16056220)

"Mozilla security practices are rubbish"

Someday you might realize that you don't define a great security system by how much you have to patch gaping holes in it.

I call bullshit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056411)

If you have a personal problem with Asa, log in or link to your blog. Making accusations like that as an AC is rude and accomplishes nothing. It's not as if you're a whistle blower and the Moz mafia are going to murder your pets in the night.

Re:I call bullshit! (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056463)

lolwhat

He admits it himself, he just doesn't accept responsibility (as supposed head of QA) or say what he did/will do to change things like that happening again. Nor has he said (what happened to "open" source and meritocracy) who was responsible for not implementing the unit test that would have caught it - or what managerial changes have been made to ensure that unit tests get properly written. He is simply terrible at QA and much better at self promotion and marketing gimmicks.

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/008125 .html [mozillazine.org]

Re:I call bullshit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056533)

Wait, where does he admit to anything in that post aside from having a new set of builds that solves the security issue?

Re:As long as she replaces the useless Asa Dotzler (2, Informative)

Kymermosst (33885) | about 8 years ago | (#16056586)

A few points:

(1) Shit happens, including regressions. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, it should have been caught. Nonetheless, shit happens.
(2) It's none of your business who was responsible. Are you some kind of stalker?
(3) The Mozilla team can handle their own internal affairs just fine, I imagine.
(4) You can always not use Mozilla products.
(5) I'm pretty sure I've been trolled, but what the hell, I haven't responded to a troll for a while. Then again, I haven't trolled for a while, either:
(6) Does having Snyder mean we'll see a need for Symantec, McAfee, etc. products for Mozilla just to keep the malware away? That's what we need for Microsoft products...

Re:MS Trojan (2, Funny)

marcello_dl (667940) | about 8 years ago | (#16056207)

a human trojan has been inserted into Mozilla?
Since it's called 'Window' Snyder, i guess it's not even human.

Re:MS Trojan (1)

TenLow (812875) | about 8 years ago | (#16056420)

You've obviously never met her.

I think I speak for a lot of people... (1)

mswope (242988) | about 8 years ago | (#16056346)

"OH NOES!!1!"
It's a trick! :-)

queue the jokes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056155)

I predict someething about the next version of Firefox being more spyware friendly.

I can't wait to see this thread... (5, Insightful)

pookemon (909195) | about 8 years ago | (#16056163)

Will the Mozilla fans throw their arms up in disgust (An MS Security expert - that's a contradiction!) or will they suddenly be supportive of someone they have effectively been bagging for years? (An MS Security expert for Mozilla! - what a coup!)

Re:I can't wait to see this thread... (5, Informative)

Moofie (22272) | about 8 years ago | (#16056351)

This is gonna totally blow your mind, but....here goes.

Two different people might have two different opinions.

[neo]WHOA![/neo]

Re:I can't wait to see this thread... (1)

Kelson (129150) | about 8 years ago | (#16056364)

There will certainly be a lot of cognitive dissonance. It'll be interesting to see which side various people fall on.

Sadly, most people so far seem to be making fun of her name.

Re:I can't wait to see this thread... (1)

HairyCanary (688865) | about 8 years ago | (#16056391)

Or just maybe we recognize that one person is not responsible for Microsoft's security failings. This guy may really know his shit, but if the corporate culture at MS is effectively anti-security it won't matter. Or maybe the codebase is so bad that even with a skilled security wonk at the helm it's just not possible to patch all the leaks. There are definitely alternatives to the two choices you offer.

Re:I can't wait to see this thread... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056515)

"He" is a woman [google.com] . But how could anybody tell with a name like Window?

Innocent Security Strategist or...? (0, Troll)

Ichigo Kurosaki (886802) | about 8 years ago | (#16056170)

Double-agent working for Microsoft to bring the downfall of mozilla security?

Re:Innocent Security Strategist or...? (1)

TheDreadSlashdotterD (966361) | about 8 years ago | (#16056387)

I can hear it now.

At Microsoft, we had a very flexible definition of "security." I would like to keep that definition alive in my work here...

*shivers*

That time again? (5, Funny)

ikejam (821818) | about 8 years ago | (#16056171)

hooray..lets have it...chairs all around..here you go..two for you...Redmond Cherry or Vista White?

Are you sure? (4, Funny)

eclectro (227083) | about 8 years ago | (#16056173)


Hey, I am for security and all, but somebody needs to call the phone numbers on his resume. I heard that Microsoft doesn't have a "security" department.

Re:Are you sure? (2, Informative)

Joey Patterson (547891) | about 8 years ago | (#16056236)

Somebody needs to call the phone numbers on his resume.

Window Snyder is a woman [dec.net] .

Re:Are you sure? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056245)

didn't read the article then?

he's a she: http://www.blogger.com/profile/13043301 [blogger.com]

Re:Are you sure? (3, Funny)

Soko (17987) | about 8 years ago | (#16056256)

Sure Microsoft has a Security Department. They're the nice people who, after you've quit MS to go work at a rival orginisation, walk you from your former office, out the front door and past Steve Balmers office window. Just watch for well aimed office chairs...

Soko

So... (5, Insightful)

Umbral Blot (737704) | about 8 years ago | (#16056175)

We can draw two possible conclusions from this. Either a: MS' security team was made of good people who were doing the best they could for such a large project with such a large user base and extensive backwards compatability, and thus that Windows security was the best it could have been (even if that wasn't so good). Or Mozilla's security is going to go down the tubes. It's a slashdot paradox! Clearly we can't grant #1, because that wouldn't be sufficiently critical of MS, but be can't grant #2 either because we love Mozilla. I'm just glad Mozilla doesn't think this way.

Re:So... (5, Funny)

MacDork (560499) | about 8 years ago | (#16056337)

We can draw two possible conclusions from this.

Ahhh, but you've overlooked the most important factor: Window Snyder is female! Therefore neither of your proposed solutions is correct. Slashdot readers, once they have discovered this will completely forget all context in the discussion. They will find pictures, [blogger.com] fawn over teh hotness, and begin building web shrines in their basements throughout the globe.

Gentlemen, ready your hot grits. :-P

Re:So... (1)

IamTheRealMike (537420) | about 8 years ago | (#16056394)

Mozilla is no more secure than IE anyway. Check it out [mozilla.org] . I reckon Ms Window will be able to use her experience to help them out quite a bit!

Re:So... (5, Funny)

Kelson (129150) | about 8 years ago | (#16056467)

Clearly we can't grant #1, because that wouldn't be sufficiently critical of MS, but be can't grant #2 either because we love Mozilla.

For some reason I want to adapt this to the duel of wits from The Princess Bride:

But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of site that would approve of an enemy, or the sort of site that would reject a friend?

A site that hates Microsoft would complain that because Microsoft's security has been notoriously poor, then Mozilla must be making a mistake. Since Slashdot tends toward favoring Mozilla, clearly I cannot choose the whine in front of you.

A site that loves Mozilla would have to rationalize the decision, and conclude that the security expert is worth hiring. But since that speaks favorably of Microsoft's security, I can clearly not choose the whine in front of me!

But Slashdot is known for its vindictiveness. Given a choice between reasoned discourse and pure snark, the site will go for snark every time. So clearly I cannot choose the whine in front of you!

etc.

I'm just glad Mozilla doesn't think this way.

In all seriousness, I've got to agree with you here. Though there's certainly been plenty of "MS has lousy security" rhetoric from people at Mozilla over the last few years.

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056486)

That's a false dichotomy. There's also the possibility that MS' security team has a few good people surrounded by a lot of incompetent people or that management as a collective is fairly incapable of properly making sure their products are secure. I think only the most rabid anti-Microsoft people will claim that no talented people work there.

You could look beyond people to process. (1)

twitter (104583) | about 8 years ago | (#16056604)

The umbral blot once again tried to overshadow intelligent conversation with a false and insulting choice:
  1. MS' security team was made of good people who were doing the best they could for such a large project with such a large user base and extensive backwards compatibility, and thus that Windows security was the best it could have been (even if that wasn't so good).
  2. Or Mozilla's security is going to go down the tubes.
  3. Of course the answer has more to do with the differences between free and non free software development than the people involved. In the non free world your resources are limited to the few people you can pay and coerce into signing a NDA. Free world resources are comparatively infinite. Non free software is subject to what's euphemistically called "marketing decisions" which restrict features and waste resources on breaking a competitor. Free software projects are guided by what people want to see in the project and forks can happen if a project ever stalls or becomes less than free. Features that people want multiply and everyone's a winner with free software. Non free software stagnates as marketing types decide how to spend their precious resources on such obvious things as a Mac port.

    There is only one person to blame for Microsoft's security failings and that is Bill Gates. He has championed and created the legal framework for non free software and steadfastly refuses to deviate from it. Until recently, every decision was his.

April 1st (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056179)

Cmon Slashdot, a guy from Microsoft whose first name is "Window" and had a job implementing security at Microsoft??? These April Fools jokes get dumber every year.

"Former" (3, Funny)

kcbrown (7426) | about 8 years ago | (#16056180)

Hmm...."former"...."security" strategist...

Uhuh. Sure. Whatever you say.

I think I'll grab a copy of the source code now...

*Dons tin foil hat*

Joke? (5, Funny)

dk.r*nger (460754) | about 8 years ago | (#16056188)

This has to be a joke. Microsoft actually employed a named Window S. ??

Re:Joke? (3, Funny)

adnonsense (826530) | about 8 years ago | (#16056227)

Yes, they saw a Window of opportunity.

Re:Joke? (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | about 8 years ago | (#16056295)

Isn't that the one that makes you go wacko?

Re:Joke? (2, Funny)

Isotopian (942850) | about 8 years ago | (#16056493)

It does cause me some pane in the head.

Re:Joke? (5, Funny)

Effugas (2378) | about 8 years ago | (#16056235)

Yes, the joke between us for quite some time was that she would normally have gotten the email address windows@microsoft.com...but it seemed to have already been taken.

Re:Joke? (1)

RelliK (4466) | about 8 years ago | (#16056416)

Not only that, but Window S. was Microsoft's security strategist? This has got to be a belated aprils fools joke.

Re:Joke? (1)

Cl1mh4224rd (265427) | about 8 years ago | (#16056437)

This has to be a joke. Microsoft actually employed a named Window S. ??

She's quite the looker [securite.org] , too.

Source [securite.org] .

I've heard some weird names before, but... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056190)

"Window"?

WTF?

In a related story (3, Funny)

krell (896769) | about 8 years ago | (#16056192)

In a related story, Heat Miser has joined the fire department.

Window Snyder? (5, Funny)

ktakki (64573) | about 8 years ago | (#16056195)

Is he required to change his name to Mozilla Snyder now?

Sorry.

k.

You should be sorry. (1)

raehl (609729) | about 8 years ago | (#16056406)

She'll have to change her name to Firefo Xnyder.

Or maybe Thunderbir Dnyder. But that just doesn't have the same ring to it.

They tried it... (1)

SuperBanana (662181) | about 8 years ago | (#16056444)

Is he required to change his name to Mozilla Snyder now?

Well, his original name was Sam Snyder. They tried to change it to Mozilla Snyder, but the name was in use and the legal department made them go with something else, so they picked Windows Snyder instead.

Then the legal department had a case of deja vu...

Snyder joining Mozilla? (2, Funny)

Centurix (249778) | about 8 years ago | (#16056229)

First thing that popped into my head was the new Mozilla security slogan.

"We're not going to take it! NO! We ain't gonna take it! We're not going to take it, anymore!"

A good thing? (0, Redundant)

DeathAndTaxes (752424) | about 8 years ago | (#16056230)

"Former MS Security Strategist Joins Mozilla" Guess we'll have to stop using that product (mozilla) out of fear. ;-)

Ahem.... Window is a gal (2, Informative)

rsborg (111459) | about 8 years ago | (#16056246)

And she's pretty hot [dec.net] .

Er, eh, not that influences my perception of her value to the Mozilla corp at all...

Is she an open window now she's at Mozilla? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056279)

Eeek teeth! Never be rude to a girl who's that tooled up.

Re:Ahem.... Window is a gal (1)

solevita (967690) | about 8 years ago | (#16056413)

So now there's a girl that know s more about comp. sec. than I ever will... Another reason to feel intimidated by the fairer sex.

She's nice, but her friends are a little bit special...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/windowsnyder/58200265 / [flickr.com]

Re:Ahem.... Window is a gal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056565)

Morlocks are real! Who knew?

Now it all makes sense! (1)

quincunx55555 (969721) | about 8 years ago | (#16056518)

When I first read the summary, I couldn't figure it out. Microsoft hasn't been the best example of "security is job one", and I thought news like this might be rather hidden by the Mozilla team than promoted.

But after seeing her pic, now it all makes sense. It's another way for some geeks to be near a female!

j/k I hope she's is very effective (and happy) in her new role.

His first name... (2, Funny)

shadwwulf (145057) | about 8 years ago | (#16056251)

...had to be a product of hippie parents.

I'd imagine his parents would have just completed the conception of Window and his father stumbled to his feet in a drug induced stupor and suddenly had an idea of what to name their recently created progeny as his eyes came into focus on the first thing he saw, exclaiming "Babe! I just thought of a awesome name for our kid...."

Just a thought.

Re:His first name... (2, Funny)

Farmer Tim (530755) | about 8 years ago | (#16056392)

Actually, "Window" was the second choice. "Roachclip" got too many funny looks at the registrar's office...

downloading... (0, Offtopic)

xoundmind (932373) | about 8 years ago | (#16056257)

Opera right now.

Re:downloading... (1)

LifesABeach (234436) | about 8 years ago | (#16056616)

I don't think this is off topic. I personally believe that the use of 'Microsoft', and 'Security' in the same sentence is an oxymoron. And just to add fuel to this bizarre fire, everytime I try to access the anchor to the web article, firefox chokes, I'm using Konqueror right now !!?

So that's how Microsoft will get us (2, Funny)

polterbyte (796780) | about 8 years ago | (#16056259)

...to drop Firefox. Great strategy!

adsense rocks (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | about 8 years ago | (#16056262)

One of the linked ads text for this page: Waste Receptacles The Spot To Find It! It Is All Here. Couldn't have put it better myself.

Finally! (1)

ratta (760424) | about 8 years ago | (#16056263)

Mozilla will now be able to compete with Internet Explorer!

First Of All, Congrats (4, Insightful)

Effugas (2378) | about 8 years ago | (#16056269)

Window's an old friend of mine, so let me be the first to congratulate her here. W00t!

So the security world used to be pretty hostile to MS, before, you know, XPSP2, MSRC got taken seriously, etc. Window showed up before all of that, and pretty much took our abuse year in, year out. And then...things got better.

She'll deny any direct cause and effect there, but she was _the_ interface between Microsoft and the various security cons for quite some time, and I think at least some of the reason we got certain concessions (like 24 hour response time out of MSRC) is that she was there to hear people say things like "I dunno, why should I warn MS, they're just gonna sit on it anyway."

Firefox is not without problems (understatement). I'm looking forward to seeing what Window can accomplish w/ Mozilla.

Re:First Of All, Congrats (3, Insightful)

JustNiz (692889) | about 8 years ago | (#16056419)

>> XPSP2, MSRC got taken seriously

Yeah sure it did. Keep smoking the doobie.

Re:First Of All, Congrats (3, Interesting)

EvilGrin666 (457869) | about 8 years ago | (#16056421)

You seem to be on the inside so I'm curious on why she'd want to leave just at the point where things were working out? Any insights on that?

Re:First Of All, Congrats (4, Informative)

x-caiver (458687) | about 8 years ago | (#16056589)

Window didn't just leave Microsoft to join Mozilla, she actually left awhile back to be one of the co-founders of Matasano Security, http://www.matasano.com/ [matasano.com] . Founding a company is a good reason to leave a company ;) She did a great job at Microsoft, and I'm sure she is going to do a great job at Mozilla.

Re:First Of All, Congrats (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056441)

"So the security world used to be pretty hostile to MS, before, you know, XPSP2, MSRC got taken seriously, etc. Window showed up before all of that, and pretty much took our abuse year in, year out. And then...things got better."

I still get lots of spam that looks like it's sent through botnets or otherwise 'owned' boxes... Ergo, I'm still waiting for 'things to get better'.

Re:First Of All, Congrats (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056446)

I thought your post was going to go something like this:

Window's an old friend of mine, so let me be the first to congratulate her.

Sincerely,
Door

Window is great, but MS security still miserable (5, Insightful)

fv (95460) | about 8 years ago | (#16056577)

So the security world used to be pretty hostile to MS, before, you know, XPSP2, MSRC got taken seriously, etc.

Used to be? Maybe you see a different view of them when they hire you for security consulting and fly you out for their Blue Hat conferences and such. But from my outsider perspective, Microsoft is still a security disaster. Not only have we continued to see hundreds of serious vulnerabilities throughout 2006, but MS has in many cases made us wait weeks or months before patching widely exploited bugs. Heck, another actively exploited MS Office vulnerability [seclists.org] was just discovered in the wild. If we're lucky, MS will cough up a patch on September 12, otherwise they'll probably leave users vulnerable until the next "patch Tuesday" on October 10.

Meanwhile, Microsoft recently re-issued MS06-042 with a fix for a vulnerability introduced by their first attempted fix. And they openly admit [seclists.org] that they excluded eEye from the advisory credits because eEye embarrassed MS by making their incompetence public. MS is more interested in petty vendetas against researches than actually fixing the flaws.

Microsoft has made a few positive steps toward securing their products in that last couple of years, but I think most of their efforts and successes are more in the PR realm than anything with technical merit. They have spent so much money sponsoring conferences (their money does come with strings attached) and paying off security researches, that many people seem reluctant to criticize them.

OK, enough anti-MS ranting from me for now :). My main point in replying is actually to agree with you about Window. She is extremely smart and talented, and her defection to Mozilla is great news for a product which really needs more security attention. We had lunch last week to discuss Mozilla security and Window has some great ideas. Mozilla may already be much more secure than IE, but we should set a much higher bar than that! Best of luck at your new position, Window!

-Fyodor
Insecure.Org [insecure.org]

Window huh? (1)

shadwwulf (145057) | about 8 years ago | (#16056282)

I bet a number of people will soon be able to see right through this move in the next few days.

Thanks folks, I'll be here all week. Please try the fish.

Poor kid (1, Funny)

Jack Sombra (948340) | about 8 years ago | (#16056293)

Could anyone imagine growing up with the name "Window", what were the parents thinking?

Re:Poor kid (1)

generic-man (33649) | about 8 years ago | (#16056312)

I bet her parents were thinking, "our daughter's going to work at some company that'll name its key product after her..." :)

The trick is... (1)

tktk (540564) | about 8 years ago | (#16056324)

to listen to her advice and then do the opposite of what she recommends.

Also known as the George Costanza rule of management.

Duck! (1)

Groo Wanderer (180806) | about 8 years ago | (#16056328)

If people leaving for Google lead to flying chairs and death threats, what does people leaving for Mozilla get you? Tables rolled down stairs and harshly worded phrases about maternal lineage?

            -Charlie

Great Another Perfectly Good Browser Ruined (1)

electrogeek_dot_com (1000932) | about 8 years ago | (#16056331)

Well there you go. Had to mess up a perfectly good browser. I guess we should expect Firefox 1.5.0.6 SP1 out any day now. I have one question. Why him? Can anyone say Opera.

Re:Great Another Perfectly Good Browser Ruined (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056595)

Can anyone say Opera.

Oper.

No, let me try that again.

Oprah.

No, that wasn't right, either.

Au pair, uh...

Hmm, I guess not.

awwwww crappppp (1)

SP33doh (930735) | about 8 years ago | (#16056335)

hey guys, guess what I just did!
that's right, I backed up the current version of firefox onto not just one, but 2 CDs.

Re:awwwww crappppp (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056511)

Firefox Setup: Insert disk 2 of 2 to continue.

Follow-up news report (4, Funny)

eric.t.f.bat (102290) | about 8 years ago | (#16056343)

Coming soon to Mozilla: ActiveM plug-ins! Now with the exciting "FORMAT C:" functionality, and complete integration with BOTH kinds of email software - Outlook AND Outlook Express!

Re:Follow-up news report (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056590)

"format c:" might not do what you think: http://hohle.net/scrap_post.php?post=23 [hohle.net]

oh, wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056356)

well...

there is always Opera or Konqueror...

I don't normally look *at* windows (1)

Hockney Twang (769594) | about 8 years ago | (#16056362)

But if we're talking about this Window Snyder [blogger.com] she is kinda cute. You know, for a former MS security expert.

Funny? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056374)

WTF is this? most of the first dozen or two posts are aimed ot be (and are modded) funny. I thought this was supposed to a forum for serious discussion, not a fucking comedy club wanna-be.

Re:Funny? (5, Funny)

Kelson (129150) | about 8 years ago | (#16056380)

I thought this was supposed to a forum for serious discussion, not a fucking comedy club wanna-be.

You must be new here.

Re:Funny? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056409)

well interestingly enough read my nickname lol..."You are not logged in. You can log in now using the convenient form below, or Create an Account, or post as Anonymous Coward.
Nick "
anyways regarding the first comment...a human trojan...okay then...i suppose mozilla security has a chance against viruses as a pose to internet explorer...
and all those jpeg exploits and stuff
but then again on certain websites people download malicious .exe files anyways... and these are spyware not detected by antivirus unfortunately.

Re:Funny? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056390)

I think the link was the point, the rest is just filler.

Re:Funny? (1)

nude-fox (981081) | about 8 years ago | (#16056396)

you thought wrong

Security Strategy (0, Flamebait)

AHuxley (892839) | about 8 years ago | (#16056388)

ie Marketing.

This could be great. A big push out into the mainstream.
Any specific bugs or security problems are now "internet problems...".
Make ppl feel that is an underlying network problem not application specific.

You secure mind share by having a strategy to deflect any negative comments about your app with good planning.

MS looking to reformat? (1)

bendodge (998616) | about 8 years ago | (#16056404)

Are all the key people leaving in MS because some board agreed that it is time for a proverbial reformat?

Re:MS looking to reformat? (1)

x-caiver (458687) | about 8 years ago | (#16056597)

Actually she left quite some time ago. Before the recent 'oddly coincidental' departures.

Clearly... (4, Funny)

ezzewezza (84083) | about 8 years ago | (#16056429)

if they're not already married to other people, Window and Linus need to get married. They could even name their first child Lindow.

Re:Clearly... (2, Funny)

geekd (14774) | about 8 years ago | (#16056554)

And then get sued by MS, and have to change the kids name to Linspire.

At least.... (2, Insightful)

Metroid72 (654017) | about 8 years ago | (#16056435)

You can't say that this captain hasn't been through a shipwreck.

MS Security Strategy... (0, Redundant)

Shadyman (939863) | about 8 years ago | (#16056438)

... Duck and run!

Awesome! (1, Funny)

caudron (466327) | about 8 years ago | (#16056457)

Now we in the open source world can start benefitting from all those ironclad security techniques that have heretofore beeen the sole purvue of Microsoft's security team!

Pretty soon our stuff will be almost as secure as Windows!

Now if only we could only get a defection from whomever it is at Microsoft that is in charge of their world reknown OS stability....

Tom Caudron
http://tom.digitalelite.com/ [digitalelite.com]

They couldn't find ONE... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056507)

Open Source developer to do this job on the whole planet? They had to REWARD A FUCKING MS EMPLOYEE?

Chuck YOU mozilla! Does the phrase "asshole" mean anything to you, it should!

It's WAY past time for a true open source browser being developed for open source operating systems, and be under the GPL and not be MS's BITCH and IE savior like FF is and Moz has been. Now they aren't even trying to hide it!

From TFA... (0, Redundant)

bangenge (514660) | about 8 years ago | (#16056514)

There were no reports about chairs being thrown. Glad to know that.

Doing one thing well (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16056538)

Maybe Ms. Snyder thought working on a browser that is a stand-alone app rather than a browser that has hooks in the entire OS is a less overwhelming challenge!

NO! (1)

TLouden (677335) | about 8 years ago | (#16056561)

This guy approved SP2? What is this, some sneaky M$ trick to ruin a perfectly fine company with it's 'security'?

I fear what may come of this.

Wait a minute... (2, Funny)

Admodieus (918728) | about 8 years ago | (#16056567)

A Microsoft employee called Window? Why, that's like an ice cream man named Cone!

Obligatory Overload (1, Interesting)

MrCopilot (871878) | about 8 years ago | (#16056575)

First of all, Window's working at Microsoft. This is too much.

Second Mozilla nabs her. Ironic No.
Microsft's Window jumps ship to Firefox.......(of all the headlines we mangle here this one's begging for it.)

The comedic possibilities are overwhelming. But here is the strangest one. Mozilla supplies her with 3 workstations. For compatability reasons she's gonnan need a Mac, a Linux, and a Windows box.

....

wait for it.

But now they are all window's machines. Gasp, This woman is dangerous and must be stopped.

In all seriousness, If she had anything to do with the sp2 patches, she is my new personal hero.

Welcome to the light. Don't be afraid. No, no, we promise, it's definately not open sores, I don't care what those dicks in the cafeteria said.
O.K maybe not in all seriousness.

Security Strategist? (1)

8ball629 (963244) | about 8 years ago | (#16056613)

You mean to tell me that Microsoft has had a security strategist this whole time? This is a joke right? Not to mention the strangest part - Window Snyder. Who would name their child Window? I wonder if she has a brother named Door.
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