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Possible Virtual Console Titles for Wii Launch

Zonk posted about 8 years ago | from the buying-kid-icarus-again-for-the-first-time dept.

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The site PlayNintendo has up a list of possible launch titles for the Wii Virtual Console. Nothing on the list is particularly surprising, with classics like Sonic, various Mario titles, Metroid, and Castlevania filling out the roster. The article author goes on to discuss his source for the information, sharing additional tidbits he's learned. "I have received info from them before that has turned out true, including a tip back before E3 that Wii could ship as early as September with 20 titles. With the fact that Broadway has been in Nintendo's hands for some time, the console could, in fact, ship late September. However, they also stated that October is much more likely and if Nintendo did decide to wait, there would be more like 30 titles for launch. With the launch list continuously growing, that one has all but been confirmed as true too." With Nintendo's big announcement due later this week, we shouldn't have long to wait before this is confirmed or disproven.

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SMB3 (1)

syrinx (106469) | about 8 years ago | (#16088616)

Notable omission: Super Mario Bros. 3.

Nonetheless, it's still an exciting list.

Re:SMB3 (1)

revlayle (964221) | about 8 years ago | (#16088627)

Yeap, and Metroid but no Super Metroid?

Re:SMB3 (4, Insightful)

Aladrin (926209) | about 8 years ago | (#16088667)

Starting small and working their way up, I bet. If you release the best right off the bat, nobody will buy the cruft when you try to sell it later.

Not that these games are cruft, but it's the concept ;)

Re:SMB3 (1)

Gridpoet (634171) | about 8 years ago | (#16089239)

OH NOES!!! my wife is going to be PISSED if they dont deliver her SMB3!!!!! i better start a letter writing campaign write now... Dear nintendo, please include Super Mario Bro's 3 in your virtual console or after i buy the Wii my wii will go untouched... yours truly, GridPoet

Re:SMB3 (1)

Gridpoet (634171) | about 8 years ago | (#16089271)

OH NOES!!!

If my wife doesnt get her SMB3 she's going to be PISSED!!!

i better start my letter writing campaign right now...

Dear Nintendo,

Please include Super Mario Brothers 3 in your virtual console at launch, or after i buy your Wii MY wii will go untouched.

sincerley,
GridPoet

Re:SMB3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16089907)

Why did you feel the need to post the same thing twice, at 3 minutes interval?

Re:SMB3 (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 8 years ago | (#16090024)

That's the new slashcode dupe feature; he didn't actually do that, slashcode now comes with 33% extra duplicates free of charge. Well, unless you're dumb enough to subscribe.

Re:SMB3 (1)

aichpvee (631243) | about 8 years ago | (#16093726)

Yeah, I'd be pissed if I were paying for /. and didn't get at least 66% more dupes!

simple question (1)

uberjoe (726765) | about 8 years ago | (#16088622)

Why not all titles? One could fit nearly every NES game on a single dvd. Storing these old (yet great) games on a server would be trivial. The Big N owns all the rights to them. Why not make all of them available at launch?

Re:simple question (1)

KermodeBear (738243) | about 8 years ago | (#16088661)

Because instead of selling you one product with all the games for, say, $60, they can sell you TEN products with 20-30 games for $40 each and make a LOT more money.

Re:simple question (2, Insightful)

hattig (47930) | about 8 years ago | (#16088691)

Trivial - if there's a limited selection you:

1) Narrow the selection users have
2) Can herald new virtual console games every week

The first one means that users don't have too much to choose from, which means they'll come to a decision sooner, and they're more likely to come to a decision. Also the limitation will encourage players to buy new games as well as virtual console games.

The latter keeps interest in the virtual console high over the many years the Wii will be around. It also means that new games can be sold at higher prices. It's also nice for users, they can get a detailed lowdown on a few games every month, rather than a list of 1000+ games that they would never look at the detail for.

Re:simple question (2, Informative)

wampus (1932) | about 8 years ago | (#16088701)

I have a CD with every NES/SNES game made on it. I don't play the games, but I do plan on getting a few of them on the Wii. By releasing them at regular intervals you maintain interest in the platform and drive sales. If every game were available at launch, everyone would go grab their 5 or whatever favorite games and forget about the service. If you see an announcement that ReallyCoolGame 4 is available next week, you are more likely to go grab it and possibly buy other stuff at the same time.

Re:simple question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088956)

I only have every SNES game made... Even zipped, it's still... 5 CDs

You have some titles missing ;)

Re:simple question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16089714)

can I borrow it?

Re:simple question (1)

Bones3D_mac (324952) | about 8 years ago | (#16088726)

They could also be trying to create custm control schemes for these titles that might allow them to take full advantage of the Wii controller's motion sensors, instead of just the normal NES controller scheme. This was implied in the earliest promotional ad for the Wii, where a guy was bouncing his Wii controller around, synced with the sound of Mario jumping.

Re:simple question (1)

Dance_Dance_Karnov (793804) | about 8 years ago | (#16088755)

That was a girl, and it was the TGS '05 controller unveiling video.

Re:simple question (1)

Bones3D_mac (324952) | about 8 years ago | (#16088796)

That was a girl

Yeah, I was pretty sure it was... but trying to say a girl was bouncing her Wii controller around just raises more questions.

Re:simple question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088965)

When I was watching that section of the vid I thought the same thing. My buddy who was watching with thought I was nuts.

I still think there was more to showing a hot asian girl bouncing her long thin wii controller up and down in a rythmatic fashion.

Re:simple question (1)

7Prime (871679) | about 8 years ago | (#16090093)

Yeah, it most definitely was a girl, and when she openned her mouth in awe, I wanted to put it in.

Re:simple question (1)

Fred Or Alive (738779) | about 8 years ago | (#16088738)

I assume you mean all Nintendo NES games, as Nintendo doesn't own the rights to 3rd party games, unless you know something I don't. (ie: If Nintendo owned the rights to the NES Megaman games, why have there been compilations on non-Nintendo platforms).

They probably just want to spread them out, rather than dump the entire catalogue online all at once, it's probably more for business / marketing than technical stuff. (Although I'd assume there is a bit of extra work to "package" them for the Wii perhaps as well, stuff like some kind of online instructions, scanning the box for the menu etc.) My guess is they think they can get people more interested in using the download service if they can pull out a big title every few weeks and get some news stories etc. about the service, rather than it just being all there from the start.

Re:simple question (1)

TheMotedOne (753275) | about 8 years ago | (#16089050)

Nintendo never bought the rights to the Mega-man games, the developers paid Nintendo for distribution rights for their platform because without it they wouldn't be allowed access due to the 'lock-out' chip that was built into the NES. The reason the games can come out on other systems is because Capcom still own's the rights to them. However, Nintendo can still sell the games because of the distribution rights they acquired back in the 80's.

MOD PARENT UP (1)

ClamIAm (926466) | about 8 years ago | (#16090280)

Nintendo doesn't own the rights to 3rd party games

Thank you very much for pointing this out. Despite Slashdot constantly covering topics like Free Software, copyright infringement, and fair use, it's really sad that we still get posts like the OP. They loudly proclaim their sage advice while displaying complete ignorance of the subject at hand.

The sad part is that the source of this phenomenon is really the lack of a good grasp of logic. It seems that many people build up towering, convoluted structures of reasoning over time, and never bother to check if anything is inconsistent. Even worse, pretty much all of these posts have a logical semi-equivalent that sounds ridiculous to pretty much everybody (by "everybody" I mean "everybody on Slashdot"). For example, I doubt that a story about DVD licensing would garner a reply claiming MPEG holds the copyright to all movies released on DVD. Of course, now I'll get a reply that links to just such a post.

Not Just Nintendo (2, Funny)

KermodeBear (738243) | about 8 years ago | (#16088625)

What I find interesting here is that some of the games are not traditional Nintendo titles:

Bonk's Adventure - A Turbo Grafix 16 title (A great system, IMHO, since the same cartridge could be used on the main console AND the hand held console!)

Sonic the Hedgehog - How on earth did they manage to license this one? I'm surprised that Sony would let Nintendo do this.

Correction (2, Informative)

KermodeBear (738243) | about 8 years ago | (#16088642)

Meant to say Sega, not Sony. Yikes. Time for some coffee. (o:

Re:Correction (1)

Fred Or Alive (738779) | about 8 years ago | (#16088763)

Well, at least you'll have some rather repetative responses to read whilst drinking it. :-)

Re:Correction (1)

yanos (633109) | about 8 years ago | (#16088804)

Why? Sega's titles have been appearing on Nintendo hardware for [metacritic.com] quite [metacritic.com] some [metacritic.com] time [metacritic.com] now [metacritic.com] ...

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0, Redundant)

Dragon of the Pants (913545) | about 8 years ago | (#16088645)

Um...you do realize that Sonic is a SEGA character, not a Sony character right?

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0, Redundant)

jstomel (985001) | about 8 years ago | (#16088652)

Errr...Isn't Sonic owned by Sega? I think Sega is planning on making all of it's old console titles available on the VC.

Re:Not Just Nintendo (2, Informative)

Bulletz26 (967431) | about 8 years ago | (#16088669)

Its been known for quite some time now that Turbo Grafix and Sega Genesis titles would be available on VC as well as all NES, SNES, and N64 titles. "Sonic the Hedgehog - How on earth did they manage to license this one? I'm surprised that Sony would let Nintendo do this." I think you mean Sega. :-)

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088670)

Sonic's SEGA, not Sony, yes?

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088683)

Don't forget the Sega Nomad. Its carts were regular old genesis carts.

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0, Redundant)

tarun713 (782737) | about 8 years ago | (#16088685)

Why would Sony have anything to do with this? Sonic is Sega's creation.

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088695)

Sonic = Sega

not Sony :)

Re:Not Just Nintendo (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088706)

Except that Sonic is a *Sega* property, not Sony. Since Sega got out of the console biz, they have been making games for all the other major consoles, including Nintendo. It was stated some time ago that the Virtual Console would support a handful of games not only from old Nintendo consoles, but also the TG16 and Genesis. Here is a tentative list of Genesis games that will be ready at launch (according to IGN):

# Ecco the Dolphin
# Altered Beast
# Toe Jam & Earl
# Golden Axe
# Columns
# Sonic the Hedgehog
# Rista

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088710)

Sonic the Hedgehog - How on earth did they manage to license this one? I'm surprised that Sony would let Nintendo do this.
Same thing for the "Mario" video game, I'm surprised that Sony licensed it to Nintendo easily...

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088714)

Since when did Sony hold the Sonic license?

Re:Not Just Nintendo (2, Interesting)

Ironsides (739422) | about 8 years ago | (#16088718)

Sonic the Hedgehog - How on earth did they manage to license this one? I'm surprised that [Sega] would let Nintendo do this.

Off hand, I'd say because Sega and Nintendo have been working more closely together in recent years. It makes a lot more sense since they are no longer directly competing with each other and goes back to something I realized years ago. Nintendo is great at making hardware consoles and marketing them. Sega is great at making games that take full advantage of consoles, but terible at marketing. Put them together and you get some kickass games on great consoles.

Besides, Sega is going to get royalties from each of their games downloaded. They want the money, and it makes sense to lump it in with Nintendos distribution system.

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0, Redundant)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | about 8 years ago | (#16088722)

Doesn't Sega own Sega and Sonic? So where does Sony come into this?

Re:Not Just Nintendo (1)

wampus (1932) | about 8 years ago | (#16088729)

Now that we've settled that Sega made Sonic, there are plenty of Sega releases for the GameCube. Sega is a software-only outfit now. They make money licensing their games.

Re:Not Just Nintendo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088740)

Sonic is Sega, not Sony.

Re:Not Just Nintendo (1)

Nova1313 (630547) | about 8 years ago | (#16088776)

Sonic is a sega game. Sega has been producing ports of old games for both Sony Systems and Nintendo systems since the Dreamcast went kaput.

Sega announced they will release many genesis titles on the service.

Re:Not Just Nintendo (2, Funny)

revlayle (964221) | about 8 years ago | (#16088837)

Sonic is a Sega franc.... wait, you've heard this one before???

Re:Not Just Nintendo (1)

lowe0 (136140) | about 8 years ago | (#16089503)

Didn't Sega say that Nintendo's systems were the new "spiritual home" of Sonic? Granted, there are two new Sonic games coming to 360, one of which is also coming to PS3, but I seem to recall a comment along those lines.

Two questions: (1)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | about 8 years ago | (#16088635)

1) Accorting to the article, the Wii "could" ship "late September"? It's about mid-September and we *don't know the release date or price*! How close do they plan to cut it?

2) Are the old games going to be updated so that I can e.g. play Super Mario Kart online? I'd pay a lot for that feature alone...

Re:Two questions: (1)

Bulletz26 (967431) | about 8 years ago | (#16088709)

To answer your second question, no, from everything they've said it appears the games will be made available to play as is, with no changes made to the actual games themselves.

And if you are looking for Mario Kart online, I'd suggest buying a DS lite, its worth it for Mario Kart DS's wifi play alone. :-)

Re:Two questions: (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16088780)

1) Accorting to the article, the Wii "could" ship "late September"? It's about mid-September and we *don't know the release date or price*! How close do they plan to cut it?

Well, acording to IBM, Nintendo has recieved steady shipments of the Broadway processor for several weeks now and could be launching the Wii (based on their numbers) within weeks. Nintendo is also holding a press conference on thrusday/friday in Japan, North America and Europe that will likely contain the price and release date information. Hypothetically speaking Nintendo could announce that they are planning to launch the Wii on Sunday September 30th with 500,000 consoles in all regions, with an aditional 2.5 Million consoles to be shipped in October, November and December (for a total of 4 Million by January).

The only question is why would they do this?

In the past Nintendo has made it clear that they dislike the pre-ordering process because it causes retailers to bundle products and gouge their customers; I'm certain that after every (successful) product launch Nintendo has gotten emails/letters complaining that they were forced to buy a battery pack / crappy game and that the consumer was blaiming Nintendo (who had nothing to do with it). Also, pre-orders tend to fall into the hands of ebay-gougers who (also) exploit Nintendo's customers. If you have a quick launch (without giving retailers time to organize a pre-order campaign) and maintain a steady supply (say 4 Million consoles over 3 months) you should be able to eliminate both of these problems.

Re:Two questions: (2, Insightful)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | about 8 years ago | (#16088815)

The only question is why would they do this?In the past Nintendo has made it clear that they dislike the pre-ordering process because it causes retailers to bundle products and gouge their customers; I'm certain that after every (successful) product launch Nintendo has gotten emails/letters complaining that they were forced to buy a battery pack / crappy game and that the consumer was blaiming Nintendo (who had nothing to do with it).

That's a good point about pre-ordering. However, couldn't they have accomplished the same thing in their contracts with retailers? Those usually specify many things regarding how they can sell the product, and they could conceivably say "you may not require additional purchases with pre-orders" and have stiff contractual penalties. Though again, that could leave retailers on the hook for the sales tactics of lower-ranked employees.

Re:Two questions: (1)

MindStalker (22827) | about 8 years ago | (#16088842)

I only worry because many games for the Wii are set to release in November. So there won't be many game available. This could be a very GOOD thing though. If I was a game publisher would I want my game to release when there was only a handfull or Wii owners or a month or two down the line when there were a few million.

Re:Two questions: (1)

Jerf (17166) | about 8 years ago | (#16089036)

I don't think we actually know the release dates, and I'm certain that if you're seeing a concrete date, it's a guess based on what's been said to date.

If the system came out on Sept. 31, I'm pretty sure it would turn out that the real date of the launch titles would be... Sept. 31. Can't call them confirmed launch titles if they aren't out at launch.

That said, I'm not expecting it in Sept. I think something would have leaked out by now. Nintendo may be able to surprise us, the lowly customer, but you can't just waltz up to the retailers and say, "Hey, clear out some of the PSP space, here comes the Wii... tomorrow!" Or at least you couldn't expect good results from that.

Re:Two questions: (1)

Mr. Sketch (111112) | about 8 years ago | (#16089387)

If it came out on Sept 31st, that would be highly unfortunate as that date does not exist.

Re:Two questions: (1)

Bloomy (714535) | about 8 years ago | (#16089643)

Depends upon the context [wikipedia.org]

Re:Two questions: (1)

Seraphim1982 (813899) | about 8 years ago | (#16089389)

If the system came out on Sept. 31, I'm pretty sure it would turn out that the real date of the launch titles would be... Sept. 31. Can't call them confirmed launch titles if they aren't out at launch.

While I don't know how Nintendo is doing it, I belive that XBOX 360 "Launch Titles" only had to be out within 3 months of launch of the system itself.

Re:Two questions: (1)

buysse (5473) | about 8 years ago | (#16089471)

If the system came out on Sept. 31...

That would indeed be very interesting.
September has 30 days.

Re:Two questions: (1)

Daedone (981031) | about 8 years ago | (#16089516)

other than the obvious.........semptember only has 30 days in it.

Re:Two questions: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16089280)

Well, as has aready been mentioned, we don't really know what any of the launch dates are; most of the dates we have been given are retailers' estimates based off of a "worst case scenerio" (much like game prices which have been listed at $59.99).

Personally, I think it would make sense for Nintendo (if they release late September/early October) to split their "Launch Line-up" into two seperate launches; for example have Zelda, Red-Steel and Wii Sports frontline the initial launch, and have a november "relaunch" with Metroid, Rayman and Warioware. If this was done (and well executed) Nintendo could focus attention on third party projects while still maximizing sales for themself; if Red Steel is an adequate first person shooter and it launches with the system (without the competition provided by Metroid) everyone will buy it to try out FPS controls on the Wii and four to six weeks later (after Red Steel has sold about as many copies as it will) Metroid 3 can be released and dominate Christmas based sales.

I can't speak for every developer, but in the past Nintendo has agrivated third party developers by releasing a game in direct competition to a third party game (because, on Nintendo platforms, Nintendo games always win). If Nintendo was more co-operative with third parties on the release of their games they would eliminate a lot of ill will from certain developers.

Re:Two questions: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16089314)

On the other hand, being the one of only a few games yet released for the console could be a considerable boost.

Re:Two questions: (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | about 8 years ago | (#16088905)

The release date and price are likely to be announced this week (likely as in "We know Nintendo has called an event later this week, and pretty much every sign points to it being this.") So be patient. An announcement this week followed by a September 30th release doesn't strike me as undoable. Might even be nice if the announcement was of the form "It's $199, and available today!"

Re:Two questions: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16089097)

If you want to play Mario Kart online, try using an emulator. Zsnes and Snes9x 1.43-WIP (it was removed from the final for some reason) both support Internet play. It works pretty well as long as your connection is low latency.

Re:Two questions: (1)

rEWDBOi (169608) | about 8 years ago | (#16094946)

If you wanna play SMK online, you could just install an emulator, like snes9x [snes9x.com] for example (assuming you're using Windows) and use its netplay feature.

Dude! (2, Funny)

Kesch (943326) | about 8 years ago | (#16088643)

Duckhunt. Nuff said. (And you said the Wiimote wasn't a light gun!)

Re:Dude! (1)

Bones3D_mac (324952) | about 8 years ago | (#16089004)

It should certainly be possible... along with stuff like "Hogan's Alley". The only difference is that the screen location is calculated instead of using a light sensor, so the whole "mess with the brightness on the tv" cheat won't work this time around.

They are giving us the old punch out (4, Interesting)

antifoidulus (807088) | about 8 years ago | (#16088681)

How about a new punch out? Come on Nintendo, punch out and super punch out were among my favorite games. However we are long overdue for a punch out on a new console. They could easily make a fun game on one of their machines, hell the original punch out arcade came with dual monitors...hmmm...let me think...maybe there is another Nintendo console that features 2 screens.

I can't be the only one clamoring for new punch out, so come on Nintendo, I don't want to Give Up or Retire, I want to keep it clean and come out boxing!

Re:They are giving us the old punch out (1)

The-Bavis (855107) | about 8 years ago | (#16088739)

Have you tried Wade Hixton's Counterpunch on the GBA? Supposed to be in the same spirit as Punch Out. Never tried it myself, so I couldn't say how it is. Maybe it would give you some satisfaction.

Re:They are giving us the old punch out (1)

dlc3007 (570880) | about 8 years ago | (#16088758)

A true Wii port for Punch Out would be great. How much more fun would a boxing game be with the wiimote/nunchuck attachment? They've got to be working on this.

Re:They are giving us the old punch out (1)

MojoBox (985651) | about 8 years ago | (#16088889)

If some rumors pan out that Nintendo is shipping the Wii with two Remote/Nunchucks, then I think a duel remote set up would be incredibly awesome for punch out :)

Re:They are giving us the old punch out (1)

cowscows (103644) | about 8 years ago | (#16090113)

And even if they don't ship the system with two controllers, you don't have to go buy another for multiplayer. You can just hit each other! Everybody wins!

Re:They are giving us the old punch out (1)

Phisbut (761268) | about 8 years ago | (#16090222)

A true Wii port for Punch Out would be great. How much more fun would a boxing game be with the wiimote/nunchuck attachment?

Me remembers playing Punch Out with the PowerGlove... not very intuitive... not sure how it would be better with the Wiimote.

Re:They are giving us the old punch out (1)

Gulthek (12570) | about 8 years ago | (#16090389)

What are you talking about? Punch-out! was the only game that the powerglove was remotely suitable for.

N*gg* stole my bike (1)

tepples (727027) | about 8 years ago | (#16088833)

Come on Nintendo, punch out and super punch out were among my favorite games.

Perhaps Nintendo is busy trying how to keep the "Nigga Stole My Bike" cut scene [ytmnsfw.com] from the original Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! game from offending its customers of African descent.

Re:They are giving us the old punch out (1)

angelus errare (984448) | about 8 years ago | (#16094487)

You have to remember that this small list of games is Nintendo's way of testing the waters. They want to see if people are willing to purchase these games and if they're satisfied with the service. If plenty of people show their support by purchasing VC games, then more companies will jump on board and offer more games.

Less rumour-filled list (5, Informative)

Kazzahdrane (882423) | about 8 years ago | (#16088720)

For some more solid VC game titles, head to the ESRB rating page at http://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.jsp [esrb.org] and select to search for Wii titles. Scroll to the bottom and, you guessed it, there are some rather old titles listed. The list:
  • Sonic the Hedgehog
  • Ecco the Dolphin
  • Golden Axe
  • Altered Beast
  • Columns
  • Toejam & Earl
  • Ristar

Of course there's no guarantee that these are VC titles but I'd guess it's very likely. Personally I can't wait for GOLDEN AXE - the game so awesome that my mum beat it.

Re:Less rumour-filled list (1)

delirium28 (641609) | about 8 years ago | (#16088852)

Personally I can't wait for GOLDEN AXE - the game so awesome that my mum beat it.

No way man! Altered Beast is where it's at! I remember weekly trips to the arcade to play that sucker. ;-) Nothing beats morphing into a wolfman beast.

Re:Less rumour-filled list (1)

Kazzahdrane (882423) | about 8 years ago | (#16088928)

I must admit I've never played it, but it's one on the list I would definitely be interested in picking up as long as the VC games are cheap enough.

Re:Less rumour-filled list (1)

ichigo 2.0 (900288) | about 8 years ago | (#16088974)

No way man! Altered Beast is where it's at! I remember weekly trips to the arcade to play that sucker. ;-) Nothing beats morphing into a wolfman beast.

Oh, altered beast. And here I was, looking forward to a life&deathish [mobygames.com] plastic surgeon game with the wii controller.

Re:Less rumour-filled list (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16089468)

Golden Axe was fun, only thing was, when I played it on Mame I was amazed at how short it was. I think I had actually gotten to the last fight in the arcade several times and not known it.

Re:Less rumour-filled list (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | about 8 years ago | (#16090870)

I noticed the same thing when I played it on Mame, but I seem to recall that the Genesis version (which was my first exposure to the game and what I played the most of) was much longer, like roughly twice as long. I'm too lazy to try to verify this right now, though. If I'm correct, they hopefully be releasing the Genesis version.

SEGA's more or less official list (1)

BinaryOpty (736955) | about 8 years ago | (#16088764)

Sega's more or less official Virtual Console lineup is here at IGN [ign.com] . There are Sega games on that list that aren't on that 26 game list posted in the summary so I think that 26 game list is probably fake.

Some "confirmed" titles (1)

RyoShin (610051) | about 8 years ago | (#16088878)

ESRB leaks list of Sega titles for Virtual Console [ign.com] .

In case you don't want to go to IGNorant.com, here's the list:
  • Ecco the Dolphin
  • Altered Beast
  • Toe Jam & Earl
  • Golden Axe
  • Columns
  • Sonic the Hedgehog
  • Ristar
Most of these have seen releases in compilations and as extras for other games, so there would be interest if you only wanted one or two of them. However, I believe both Ristar and Toe Jam & Earl (hell yeah!) haven't had a re-release yet.

Once has to wonder, though, why we haven't seen more titles. Perhaps the ESRB is keeping a tighter lid on Nintendo and Turbografix titles (though there were some expected titles listed at E3), or Sega applied for their ratings earlier.

Wii Animal Crossing (4, Interesting)

Bones3D_mac (324952) | about 8 years ago | (#16088890)

This raises some interesting applications for something like Animal Crossing on the Wii. In the gamecube version, you recieved playable versions of some old NES titles as gifts from other characters in the game. If Nintendo plays their cards right, they may be able to link something like this to their online content delivery system, allowing users to receive any title offered for Nintendo's virtual console for free, simply by unlocking it in another game.

Re:Wii Animal Crossing (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 8 years ago | (#16090006)

This raises some interesting applications for something like Animal Crossing on the Wii. In the gamecube version, you recieved playable versions of some old NES titles as gifts from other characters in the game. If Nintendo plays their cards right, they may be able to link something like this to their online content delivery system, allowing users to receive any title offered for Nintendo's virtual console for free, simply by unlocking it in another game.

Remember, in the Wii version of Animal Crossing, we'll all have friend codes so we can use the wireless/net to swap with our friends. Remember how using a Gameboy would let you unlock the island? One of the better ways to do this would be to let you download the mini-games onto a Nintendo DS.

The one Sega game I'm waiting for... (1)

El Gigante de Justic (994299) | about 8 years ago | (#16088937)

is Samba de Amigo [wikipedia.org] . It's hard to find at any reasonable price for Dreamcast due to the special controllers, but on the Wii they could simply replace the maracas with two Wii-motes. I'd actually be even more interested in a new version with additional songs.

Re:The one Sega game I'm waiting for... (1)

Kimos (859729) | about 8 years ago | (#16089015)

Yes... That's a great idea...

Didn't have much success on the DC, and if I remember correctly the controllers broke fairly easily. But Nintendo has managed to sell games like Donkey Konga so Samba De Amigo isn't much more of a stretch, especially if no extra hardware is required!

Re:The one Sega game I'm waiting for... (1)

DDLKermit007 (911046) | about 8 years ago | (#16090605)

They broke eaisily because the market was flooded with cheap nock offs. Finding good original ones is nigh impossible.

Re:The one Sega game I'm waiting for... (1)

ClamIAm (926466) | about 8 years ago | (#16090377)

I think that the Nunchaku can also sense motion, so that's an idea as well.

Re:The one Sega game I'm waiting for... (1)

El Gigante de Justic (994299) | about 8 years ago | (#16091494)

The nunchuck can sense motion, but I don't think it senses it the same way as the Wii-mote, and the tether might get in the way of full rhumba posing action. Plus, the Wii-motes have the internal speakers so they could potentially play the sound of a maraca when you shake it. Maracas themselves have a bit of sound delay, so they would probably sound pretty accurate.

Rareware Games? (1)

Kirby64 (997678) | about 8 years ago | (#16090829)

I, for one, hope that Nintendo can acquire the N64 Banjo series + DK64 from Microsoft, those are some of my favorite games for the N64, and it would rock if they'd be downloadable on the VC.

I was suprised (1)

Kuvter (882697) | about 8 years ago | (#16091216)

they won't have most of the games at launch. I kind of assumed that when they listen the systems that they'd have most if not all the titles. I thought I'd be able to get Golden Axe, Dragon Warrior 4, Blades of Steel, Kickle Cubicle, and other games I loved in the past. This definitely lessens my want to get the system at launch now.

WHA?!?!? (1)

AlexanderDitto (972695) | about 8 years ago | (#16093797)

So... let me get this straight: you're not going to buy a Wii at launch because they're not offering old, quasi-obscure games from old systems that you loved in the past the moment the system is released, and that you assumed would be on the list but aren't?

I volunteer take that horrible Wii off your hands, if you'd like.

In all seriousness, remember that this is just list at launch. Nintendo's not going to bring out every single game when the system launches: it would be tremendously overwhelming. I think waves of a few weeks between game releases will be ideal. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll start to see your favorite titles popping up soon enough. And while you wait, why not try some of the new Wii titles that are coming out. I hear this new-fangled "Twilight Princess" thing might be good, might be worth picking up.

Show me the money! (1)

Kamineko (851857) | about 8 years ago | (#16093474)

Prices. Prices.
Show us the damned prices, already!

There's no point giving out these rumours if you don't give folks a price to work from. (price > £3.00 = they lose)

Re:Show me the money! (1)

Pacifist Brawler (987348) | about 8 years ago | (#16093915)

Not necessarily. There is a large enough used game market that they would be competing with that they could do pretty well re-releasing things on VC. It's a different market if they are priced like real games, but it's a market none-the-less.

Re:Show me the money! (1)

Kamineko (851857) | about 8 years ago | (#16094832)

You're right.

But I personally wouldn't pay more than £3 (and that's pushing it) for almost anything on VC.

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