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eDonkey Pays the Recording Industry $30M

kdawson posted about 8 years ago | from the sound-of-falling-dominos dept.

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ColinPL writes, "MetaMachine Inc., the firm behind online file-sharing software eDonkey, has agreed to pay $30 million to avoid potential copyright infringement lawsuits from the recording industry. The company also agreed to take measures to prevent file sharing by people using previously downloaded versions of the eDonkey software. The eDonkey application now displays the message, 'The eDonkey2000 Network is no longer available. Please see eDonkey.com for more details.' After that message is displayed the uninstaller is launched automatically." If you visit edonkey.com, it logs your IP address. How much will the demise of eDonkey matter, given that most who access that P2P network do so using the open-source eMule?

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recording industry? (4, Insightful)

doti (966971) | about 8 years ago | (#16091374)

The so called "recording industry" is just not needed anymore. Just get your fortune and invest in another productive area, and get over it.

Go away. Please.

Re:recording industry? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091415)

dear mods, if you disagree with a post and feel compelled to inflict moderation on it rashly, at least use "overrated" instead of "offtopic" when the post is spot on topic.

Re:recording industry? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091567)

Uhhh, dumbass, somebody has to *make* that music before you can steal it. eDonkey didn't make that $30 million from people who wanted to hear Creative Commons .oggs of Cory Doctorow blowing his nose.

Re:recording industry? (2, Insightful)

kz45 (175825) | about 8 years ago | (#16091586)

"The so called "recording industry" is just not needed anymore. Just get your fortune and invest in another productive area, and get over it.

Go away. Please."

even if the current RIAA is gone, there will always be some type of recording industry around. It's just too lucrative.

also, most artists have no experience marketing, selling, or dealing with the right people that will get them the high-paying gigs they need to continue performing and feed their family and or make the rent.

Re:recording industry? (3, Insightful)

arevos (659374) | about 8 years ago | (#16091875)

also, most artists have no experience marketing, selling, or dealing with the right people that will get them the high-paying gigs they need to continue performing and feed their family and or make the rent.

Yep, presumably artists will still need outside help to help them finance, organise and arrange large live gigs. However, I think there's less of a need for recording companies to market and distribute music from artists. Distributing music via the Internet is obviously cheap enough not to need financial backing; I need hardly go into the details of that on Slashdot. But marketing music is also a industry I expect to decline in the next few years. Music is an odd thing, in that one cannot 'sell' a piece of music in the same way one would sell a car. The customer either likes the piece of music he hears, or he does not. No amount of salesmanship will get him to change his mind, as it boils down to personal preference.

Because of this, marketing music consists largely of getting people to listen to it. Unfortunately, people have limited time on their hands, and cannot listen to every piece of music, so recording companies market selectively, using bands they know have a wide appeal. It's a broad, scattergun approach, and I can't help but think that one could do a far better job with a large database and some social networking software.

your sig (3, Funny)

SnowZero (92219) | about 8 years ago | (#16091597)

I declare a subthread for people with prime user id numbers only.
factor 92219: 92219

Re:your sig (1, Funny)

Chris_Jefferson (581445) | about 8 years ago | (#16091782)

Woo! I love primes!

factor 581445: 3 3 3 5 59 73

defeated....

Re:your sig (1)

jelle (14827) | about 8 years ago | (#16091987)

Whodathunk?

$ factor 14827
14827: 14827

Do I win a prize now?

Re:your sig (1)

kkovach (267551) | about 8 years ago | (#16092013)

Woot!

$ factor 267551
267551: 267551

Re:your sig (1)

Tycho (11893) | about 8 years ago | (#16092108)

What about the poor people who have more than one prime factor?

factor 11893: 1699 7

Re:recording industry? (1, Insightful)

no_opinion (148098) | about 8 years ago | (#16091619)

You are right. Clearly the number of people still interested in getting a recording contract for large sums of money has diminished, as illustrated by the shrinking number of American Idol applicants and spin-off shows. /sacrcasm

Re:recording industry? (3, Insightful)

aplusjimages (939458) | about 8 years ago | (#16091693)

I don't know if they should go away, but for crying out loud adapt to the Internet. This is the new format. They all need to work together and remarket their products. They still expect people to buy their CD's by the billions as if CD's are still new technology. They still think they can put out 1-2 songs and then throw in 8 other songs to fill up a disc. The market is changing, so they need to change with it.

Re:recording industry? (4, Insightful)

lymond01 (314120) | about 8 years ago | (#16091717)

Their tactics could use some updating certainly, but there's a lot of money to be made in creating the next big star. Recorded music is still a commodity, and what drives the price up of concert tickets? A: Who is most famous. How do they get famous? A: Recording industry promotes them.

What would happen without the recording industry? A: They'd become popular by internet vote and word-of-mouth, someone would claim to have "made them famous" on their website and demand some of their earnings from concerts, videos, commercials. Other people would hop on that bandwagon, realize it's easier to promote people if they work together, and they'd call it the WMIA, World Music Industry Association, claiming rights throughout the world as an "international" (ie internet-based) company.

You'd think the way people talk that big industries are just a bunch of small people being greedy. Well, you'd be right.

Re:recording industry? (1)

InsaneProcessor (869563) | about 8 years ago | (#16091862)

There is a whole lot of money to be made by extortion. RIAA is a perfect example of legalized extortion.

We'll take your house, both cars, your bank accounts, and your first born male child!

Good thing (4, Funny)

Vampyre_Dark (630787) | about 8 years ago | (#16091380)

Good thing they paid up. Uncle RIAA thought it would be a shame if "something should happen to their nice office building".

Re:Good thing (5, Interesting)

pla (258480) | about 8 years ago | (#16091443)

Good thing they paid up. Uncle RIAA thought it would be a shame if "something should happen to their nice office building".

For some reason you got modded down, but really, I have to wonder about the legality of this...

"eDonkey, has agreed to pay $30 million to avoid potential copyright infringement lawsuits from the recording industry". Not damages awarded by a court, not even to settle a pending suit - To avoid a potential lawsuit!

If that doesn't meet the textbook definition of extortion, I don't know what would.

Re:Good thing (1)

ThatsNotFunny (775189) | about 8 years ago | (#16091582)

It's not really extortion if you've got no legal defense.

Re:Good thing (1)

miyako (632510) | about 8 years ago | (#16091583)

doesn't this sort of thing happen fairly often? Company A pays Company B X dollars to ensure that company B will not sue Company A for any sort of legal infringments? I think it happens mostly with patents.
Not saying that it's right, just that it does seem to be the status quo.

Re:Good thing (1)

itschy (992394) | about 8 years ago | (#16091665)

It gets worse:
I heard even ordinary people like you and me have to pay for things to not get sued for stealing!

Re:Good thing (1)

no_opinion (148098) | about 8 years ago | (#16091590)

Thank you for your researched and objective spin. Clearly many people on slashdot have not heard of a settlement.

I got called into jury duty a few months ago and when I showed up I was assigned to a case. But they had all of the potential jurors just stand out in the hallway for what seemed like an hour. The whole time there was this nervous looking group of people down the hallway from us.

Eventually the judge called just the jurors into his chamber and gave us a very friendly talk about how we had just saved the tax payers money. He said that the nervous looking group was the defendant and legal team, and when they actually got to see the jury pool in person, the reality of the situation hit them. They decided to settle because maybe their case wasn't so good after all.

Settlements happen every day. A real attorney will tell you that very few cases actually get litigated all the way to the end.

Re:Good thing (1)

Alchemar (720449) | about 8 years ago | (#16091673)

I think you missed the point. It would be one thing if it was a settlement, however there was nothing to settle. There was no lawsuit. If they had filed a lawsuit, and then reached an agreement it would be a settlement. This was more along the lines of pay us what we want or we will sue you. If you happen to think that the threat of getting sued is justice, you have not been in court with someone that outmatched you financially. It is more like poker than justice. If you can match the bet you can call thier bluff, otherwise you have to fold.

You must not be very good at poker (1)

shaneh0 (624603) | about 8 years ago | (#16091812)

You don't have to be able to match their bet to call their bluff. You just need to be willing to commit all of YOUR chips. If I raise you $100 and you only have $20 at the table, all I'm really raising you is $20.

This is more like YOU were bluffing, and I just raised you big time, and you know that all you hold is a pair of deuces, so you fold to my bet. It's not that they can't afford to fight it--christ, they have at least $30,000,000--it's that they know that they don't have a case.

Re:You must not be very good at poker (1)

no_opinion (148098) | about 8 years ago | (#16091992)

Actually, not true. Since the supreme court ruling, the p2ps have been settling. I don't think it is a mystery as to why - none of them actually have a leg to stand on when it comes to the inducement test. If they thought they could win, it would certainly be cheaper than $30 million to litigate.

its called a settlement.... (1)

Brigadier (12956) | about 8 years ago | (#16091647)


It happens all the time. Big company with mean lawyer informs small company that if they dont' pay up we will litigte you to all hell. Even if we lose you will still be paying $30mil in lawyers fee and lost revinue so save yourself the trouble and pay us now. It's called legal blackmail.

Morte d' Robertson (3, Interesting)

Stanistani (808333) | about 8 years ago | (#16091390)

Slowly the vise closes in on all P2P... yet filesharing grows year by year...
The media congloms win lots of battles while losing the war.

Re:Morte d' Robertson (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091410)

you gotta change your sig pal. get rid of the bold.

Re:Morte d' Robertson (1)

aplusjimages (939458) | about 8 years ago | (#16091750)

  • I'm more confused by the bullet point when its a sig and there's only one bullet

Re:Morte d' Robertson (4, Insightful)

X0563511 (793323) | about 8 years ago | (#16091423)

They call that a war of attrition. And they are indeed loosing (big lawsuits against few people wont work, they need small lawsuits against teeming crowds).

But that's almost as impractical as SCO's lawsuit(s)

Re:Morte d' Robertson (2, Insightful)

smilindog2000 (907665) | about 8 years ago | (#16091566)

I believe the powerful music and movie industries will succeed in forcing the US government to crack down on ISPs (not just individuals and web-sites). Then, eMule and it's network will go away, at least for us in the US. The ISPs will be happy to comply, since this will eliminate much of their traffic. It probably would have already happened had these industries not POed the GOP by donating generously to Democrats for years, and if the government weren't working so hard to be budy-budy with backbone carriers so they can get their secret data taps, and if the baby Bells weren't such grand GOP supporters.

One the bright side: legal digital music and video distribution should get cheaper. Those of us who actually pay for our stuff will see a benefit.

Re:Morte d' Robertson (1)

Kafka_Canada (106443) | about 8 years ago | (#16091800)

Bah, whatever, if they do end up eventually crushing eDonkey and its ilk, and maybe even if they don't, people will just switch to anonymous P2P [wikipedia.org] . It's pretty much impossible to stop people from exchanging data with each other.

Re:Morte d' Robertson (1)

anotherzeb (837807) | about 8 years ago | (#16091902)

One the bright side: legal digital music and video distribution should get cheaper. Those of us who actually pay for our stuff will see a benefit.

Be realistic - they won't bring down any prices even if they do manage to significantly reduce illegal filesharing / copying / whatever. I doubt that more CDs will be sold if they eliminate filesharing - people mostly download music they probably wouldn't buy anyway (people I know like the inlay and printed CDs too much to download music they really want) - but even if they sell more CDs, the only people who would be affected will be the record company execs and maybe some of the top artists

time to cash out (2, Interesting)

User 956 (568564) | about 8 years ago | (#16091404)

MetaMachine Inc., the firm behind online file-sharing software eDonkey, has agreed to pay $30 million to avoid potential copyright infringement lawsuits from the recording industry.

Sounds like they've made their fortune, and have made the decision to pay the piper and cash out. I have no doubt that MetaMachine's profits were far in excess of $30 million.

Re:time to cash out (1)

hernyo (770695) | about 8 years ago | (#16091678)

Yes, dude. How in hell could they have so high incomes? Donations??????

It logs your IP address. (5, Insightful)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 8 years ago | (#16091420)

If you visit edonkey.com, it logs your IP address
If you visit one my my sites, I'll log your IP address too. So what - are they following up on each one to see if they are potential pirates?

Get this... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091448)

It also logs the page you requested, when you requested it, and your browser. Everyday, they also rotate their logs and compress them for further statistical tracking at a future point!

Re:Get this... (1)

aliendisaster (1001260) | about 8 years ago | (#16091479)

I wonder if they make pretty little charts to see which part of the country is 'stealing' what kind of music and selling that to the recording companies so they will know what part of the country to push thier new 'i wish i could sing' artist?

Re:Get this... (1)

russ1337 (938915) | about 8 years ago | (#16091535)

I wonder how resistant their site is to being slashdotted....

Re:Get this... (1)

dougmc (70836) | about 8 years ago | (#16091788)

I wonder how resistant their site is to being slashdotted....
Probably very. It's just a single small page, straight text. Probably just a single static file on a web server -- that's all they need.

Assuming that this is correct, even a 486 or so on a single T1 could probably handle over 100 hits per second.

Re:Get this... (1)

dougmc (70836) | about 8 years ago | (#16092041)

(Well, obviously the page isn't *entirely* static, as it gives your IP address. But even so, the CPU needed to do this is absolutely miniscule.)

Re:It logs your IP address. (1)

mordors9 (665662) | about 8 years ago | (#16091473)

Have they been approaching it that way so far.... NO. They will simply send everyone a letter threatening to file suit if you don't send them a couple grand. Then it is up to you to prove you are innocent, and good luck doing it. Gee whiz, you seem to think that you should be innocent until proven guilty. What a wacky concept.

innocent until proven guilty (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 8 years ago | (#16092106)

That only works in a criminal case. These are civil cases.

Re:It logs your IP address. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091483)

Thank goodness I only use eMule to download porn and not music.

Re:It logs your IP address. (2, Funny)

vertical_98 (463483) | about 8 years ago | (#16092094)

If you visit edonkey.com, it logs your IP address

I logged onto every one of our servers and lynx'ed to it. just so if someone is actually reading the logs can wonder why they get XX.XX.XX.130,131,132,133,....152.

Vertical

Never ending gravy train (5, Insightful)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | about 8 years ago | (#16091440)

So, eDonkey wants to stay legit, good on them.
They want to put in place controls to limit copying, good on them.
They then give all their money to the bullys, bad move.
Paying of the artists might seem like a prudent course of action, but once you pay of one group, what about the next?

Theres the RIAA, MPAA and the BSA.
The guitar tab people and the knitting pattern folks and all the other American groups.
Thats not including all the individual software companies who want a piece of the pie, nor does it include all the groups from other countries (like FACT(Federation Against Copyright Theft) or CAAST(Canadian Alliance Against Software Theft)).

What happens when I find software from my company is available on limewire, where do I get my piece of the pie from, or is mine not big enough and is simply enough to get it added to the list of banned searches without any financial payback?

What makes my company different to the RIAA groups?

Let the copyright owners prove blatant infringement, let them show the service is doing illegal things and let the service fix itself.

Don't give into threats.

Re:Never ending gravy train (2, Insightful)

sane? (179855) | about 8 years ago | (#16091700)

Paying of the artists might seem like a prudent course of action, but once you pay of one group, what about the next?
I'd have less problem with them paying the artists directly, rather than the industry which includes all the other hangers on and parasites. I somehow doubt any of this money actually goes to the artists at all - it just inflates the profit lines of the various companies.

Re:Never ending gravy train (1)

trevdak (797540) | about 8 years ago | (#16092011)

I view the RIAA and MPAA very differently.
To make good music, you don't need a multi-million dollar budget or massive amounts of bling. The RIAA could disappear from the face of the planet and music would, if anything, improve as we are exposed to a more diverse selection.

Movies, on the other hand, often need a high budget. You can't make the Matrix or LotR or Star Wars or 90% of the other movies that slashdotters love without HUGE budgets. The MPAA needs movie tickets and DVD sales to survive. Granted, they do live very comfy lifestyles for the most part, and could lose some profits and still be fine, but filetrading definitely hurts the movie industry more.

it's only natural everybody uses eMule (5, Funny)

ranjix (892606) | about 8 years ago | (#16091468)

historically speaking, eMule comes from eDonkey (eStallion) and eHorse (eMare)... Plus is sterile, RIAA likes that

eDonkey is still around? (1)

gravis777 (123605) | about 8 years ago | (#16091472)

I thought eDonkey had long since been dead. I have not seen an ed2k link on the net for quite some time. And I had never used eDonkey for downloading music, and it seems most other people didn't either. Seemed like a popular way to pirate movies a few years back before BitTorrent took off, and was used a lot for porno. I was really the only one I know of that used eDonkey at all, and I think I may have downloaded one thing off of it, some like subbed anime or something.

E-mule is deffinately more pevelant, even if people do not realize it.Doesn't Limewire use eMule client as its backbone?

Re:eDonkey is still around? (1)

urbanradar (1001140) | about 8 years ago | (#16091542)

Actually, Limewire (and its fork, FrostWire [frostwire.com] ) access the Gnutella network, IIRC.

Re:eDonkey is still around? (1)

gravis777 (123605) | about 8 years ago | (#16091663)

That's right, I think I was thinking of Sharaza or something

Re:eDonkey is still around? (1)

jZnat (793348) | about 8 years ago | (#16091653)

LimeWire uses the open protocol Gnutella [wikipedia.org] .

Ducking Fisgusting. (1, Insightful)

Penguinisto (415985) | about 8 years ago | (#16091487)

Instead of threats of violence or interference, there's threats of lawsuits to extract cash and force the death of anything that threatens a well-financed-enough organization. Yay. (as /me shakes head)...

It's almost as if the RIAA can now go after any company who sells products with any sort of file-transfer technology... I wonder why they haven't gone after any web browser that supports FTP, or anyone who makes/distributes an NNTP reader? Hell, FTP and NNTP were passing copyrighted files around long before AOL even reared it's head... Ah, but the answer is pretty obvious in thsoe cases, no?

N.B. how much money does a grassroots organization have to scrape together and put in the politicians' pockets before we can get some sort of copyright law reforms, anyway?

/P

Re:Ducking Fisgusting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091601)

You seem to be an utter moron? The difference between FTP/HTTP and eDonkey is that eDonkey while providing a mechanism for sharing files, PROFITED from the copyrighted intellectual property of others, while FTP/HTTP are open standards not controlled by any 1 company. If a company began offering copyrighted downloads over FTP/HTTP they would likely be sued as well.

Re:Ducking Fisgusting. (1, Insightful)

Penguinisto (415985) | about 8 years ago | (#16091794)

"The difference between FTP/HTTP and eDonkey is that eDonkey while providing a mechanism for sharing files, PROFITED from the copyrighted intellectual property of others"

Oh? How about all those years that people used Agent Pro, or Netscape News Reader, or ...? software writers turned a decent profit from those items for quite awhile.

And, umm, "NNTP", not "HTTP". You know, like "USENET". Will no one rid me of these troublesome newbs!?

Or were you referring to proprietary vs. open standards for transferring files? Shouldn't matter either way, there - unless it's suddenly illegal to write and sell proprietary software that uses proprietary communications protocols ('course, you could try and sue Novell for doing that... they've been at it for years! ;) )

Ah, wait - nevermind... your premise is flawed in another way entirely, which means that I don't have to keep guessing at WTF you were attempting to talk about: eDonkey made money from sales of their "Pro" software, not from pirating everyone else's stuff. Customer motivations have nothing to do with sales intent, otherwise gun and knife makers would be civilly liable for every murder committed with their products. Come to think of it, that's a pretty good parallel (and a reason why most lawsuits against gun makers have failed utterly on such premises...)

...unless of course you're going to assert that they made their cash from actially selling pirated stuff online - you aren't dumb enough to assert that, are you AC? Didn't think so.

I wonder... (3, Insightful)

GmAz (916505) | about 8 years ago | (#16091488)

So, does the $30 million go to the 'starving' artists or will the RIAA soak up the money?

Re:I wonder... (1)

Mantooth (991503) | about 8 years ago | (#16091646)

The $30 million will go towards future lawsuits that rake in even more millions. What a vicious cycle. Eventually, the recording industry will make more money from lawsuits(extortion) than it will from music.

...So? (0, Flamebait)

Avillia (871800) | about 8 years ago | (#16091512)

eDonkey's IP records are useless in any sort of legal action and will be so tainted by random internet traffic such as that generated by SlashDot that I will mock any fool who attempts to use that data in any productive way, targetted advertisement excepted.

On another note, a patch will be made for eDonkey within the day to allow all three people who still want to use the eDonkey network to do so. If there was some indexing server or such shut down by this, a new one will be emulated, and aforementioned patch will redirect queries to aforementioned emulated server.

Re:...So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091639)

Quit saying "aforementioned" retard. It doesn't make you look smarter, especially when you have it twice in the same sentence jackass.

Re:...So? (1)

Danga (307709) | about 8 years ago | (#16091835)

Quit saying "aforementioned" retard. It doesn't make you look smarter, especially when you have it twice in the same sentence jackass.

Daaammn, take a chill pill dude! Why do you have a problem with him using the word "aforementioned"? He used it and spelled it correctly and it is shorter to write "aforementioned" instead of "previously mentioned" so whats the big deal?

I have a question.... (4, Interesting)

dcavanaugh (248349) | about 8 years ago | (#16091516)

Where did eDonkey GET $30M to pay RIAA? Or is this a hyped-up announcement of a "settlement" that is never really collected?

Re:I have a question.... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091691)

They got it from all the spyware that was installed with their software ...

Re:I have a question.... (1)

AbRASiON (589899) | about 8 years ago | (#16091768)

This is exactly what I was thinking.

Has another company gone broke because the RIAA are a bunch of assholes?

Re:I have a question.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16092167)

Really, why? Could someone answer?

Logged IP? (3, Insightful)

im_mac (927998) | about 8 years ago | (#16091520)

Everyone who clicks on the eDonkey link gets this friendly message:


"You are not anonymous when you illegally download copyrighted material. Your IP address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and has been logged."

Great, I only go to the site, they chastise me for 'stealing' music and then write down my IP address. How long until the RIAA sends me a letter regarding my visit to eDonkey.com and requests to view my harddrive to find 'stolen' files?

Re:Logged IP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091836)

http://www.router19.org/cracked.aspx [router19.org] :-)

Strange enough, I found it in the source code. When removing a strange nag screen asking for something like a key or so. I wonder what this thing should be good for when everyone is legally allowed to change the source code and compile it on his own.

Re:Logged IP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091847)

I clicked on the link in a new tab before I read the /. editor comments...now is my company going to get a threatening letter?

Re:Logged IP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091966)

As we say here in Argentina, you sir are rightly fucked

Re:Logged IP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16092132)

absolutely...wonder what corporate would think if I clicked that link?

Let's not forget aMule... (4, Informative)

urbanradar (1001140) | about 8 years ago | (#16091523)

And let's not forget... for Linux, there's the ever-excellent aMule [amule.org] client to access the network.

eMule - Kademlia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091613)

Kademlia [wikipedia.org] will live forever.

Calling it Quits? (1)

BuckaBooBob (635108) | about 8 years ago | (#16091615)

If Edonkey wanted to call it quits.. Why Bother paying out.. They should have given they lawyers the 30Mil and told em.. Spend it all in court.. Then closed the doors and send everyone home.

Official Linux version still works (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091658)

I had to test. I just ran the official Linux version of the eDonkey2000 client that I had downloaded from edonkey.com a while back for testing purposes.

No expiration message, no automatic uninstallation... It works exactly the same as it always had.

So, did they build this functionality into the Windows client, but left it out in the ports? Does anyone have the official OS X version to test?

Artists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091674)

So when do the artists get their cut?

Slashdot is all for copyright protection, right? (1, Interesting)

isaacklinger (966649) | about 8 years ago | (#16091683)

Okay, they've shut down a firm that was directly hosting and indirectly responsible for massive copytight infringement. Seeing that unauthorised distribution of copyrighted material is illegal in most, if not all, the western world, I think it's good to see the law being enforced. Sadly it's being enforced by corporate lawyers and not governments. Untill now, copyright infringers have been prosecuted, and had lost, to the corporate lawyers. Even so, copyright infringement is steadily on the rise.

What do you think they'll do next, seeing that going after the clients and servers can only yield so much? Perhaps ask the government to join in on the "War on Piracy", and target the infrastructure? Personally I don't see my government being very interested in media piracy, but the US government sure is.

Re:Slashdot is all for copyright protection, right (1)

IngramJames (205147) | about 8 years ago | (#16091935)

Seeing that unauthorised distribution of copyrighted material is illegal in most, if not all, the western world, I think it's good to see the law being enforced. Sadly it's being enforced by corporate lawyers and not governments.

That'll be because Copyright infringement is a Civil, not a Crimminal offence in most of the western world.

Governments can't prosecute it.

Funny, that, because they do prosecute people who sell pirated DVDs.. anyone care to explain the difference for me? Damned if I can spot it..

Where does all this money come from? (2, Interesting)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | about 8 years ago | (#16091692)

Where does all this money come from? Weren't they distributing a free program to allow the free swapping of digital files? Where does the $30M show up from?

Re:Where does all this money come from? (1)

antic (29198) | about 8 years ago | (#16091739)

That's my question too. $30m! Even if there was a paid, pro version, who actually buys those to download files?!

Re:Where does all this money come from? (1)

soft_guy (534437) | about 8 years ago | (#16091859)

Where does all this money come from?

The investors in eDonkey?

Recording Idustry Wins (0, Offtopic)

timlyg (266415) | about 8 years ago | (#16091722)

My answer to this battle is that they will always win. Because this world is all about $$$. But this world will not last. And those who are in it will not last either.
There is another world, mixed into this world, this other world is eternal. Led by our savior Christ, who is also our God and creator. This other world will even be the judge of the formal one. No one can be in two worlds. Make your choice before it's too late. Beware, for those who think they are "enjoying" both of these worlds are actually not in the eternal one. You cannot serve both God and Mammon.

Re:Recording Idustry Wins (0, Offtopic)

timlyg (266415) | about 8 years ago | (#16091820)

Jesus Christ is our Lord. For his death and resurrection is the entrance into this other world.

Re:Recording Idustry Wins (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16092152)

Shut up, you fucking Jesus freak. Religion has nothing to do with this. Suck on Christ cock and wank your conscience somewhere else.

FUD! (4, Funny)

robpoe (578975) | about 8 years ago | (#16091723)

Plain old FUD .. EVERY friggin website in the world logs your IP address. It's only that, an IP address.

I went there JUST so they would log my IP address. There! Sue me RIAA. I visited a public website. Boo friggin hoo..

Next they'll be sending secret police to my house to @(*$fiu$#(NO CARRIER)

cool! (5, Funny)

Supersonic1425 (903823) | about 8 years ago | (#16091746)

now when I want to know my IP address, I can get a free threatening message with it! awesome.

Why are they hitting these guys? (1)

NRISecretAgent (982853) | about 8 years ago | (#16091821)

The P2P people are still at fault? You know I think in a normal place the Industry would be paying the P2P networks to shut down instead of twisting laws to do it.

Pay the RIAA? Are you kidding me? (1)

Bryansix (761547) | about 8 years ago | (#16091832)

That's like paying Satan to get off your back. It will only make the problem worse. If I was one of the people who ran eDonkey I would have left the country a long time ago to escape the Recording Industry Mafia known as the RIAA.

Re:Pay the RIAA? Are you kidding me? (1)

NRISecretAgent (982853) | about 8 years ago | (#16091899)

I meant I would think that the Music Industry would be paying the P2P coders to close up shop and go home so as to preserve their market...

Gnapster vs. OpenNap all over again. (2, Interesting)

pjbass (144318) | about 8 years ago | (#16091837)

When the recording industry forced the Gnapster community offline, they all patted themselves on the back for a job well done. But the opennap network was just spinning up, and was bigger and better than the original. Fast forward a few years ahead, and all these attacks on PnP filesharing has generated beautiful, useful protocols like BitTorrent.

Let them keep attacking, because we will always have someone out there out-innovating the money-hungry RIAA and MPAA.

oh noes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091840)

Holy crap... it was all true! My computer *is* broadcasting an IP address!!

Web design?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16091985)

Wow, they can come up with a huge filesharing network, yet they can't even make a decent web page... I'm impressed.

summary: (1)

Kaenneth (82978) | about 8 years ago | (#16092007)

The tighter you squeeze the more slips out between your fingers.

A low blow in the "War on Piracy" (1)

cyberfunkr (591238) | about 8 years ago | (#16092017)

It appears that the Recording Industry has taken to biological weapons.

As defined in Wikipedia, "Biological warfare, also known as germ warfare, is the use of any organism (bacteria, virus or other disease-causing organism) or toxin found in nature, as a weapon of war. It is meant to incapacitate or kill an adversary."

Does the colonies of corp lawyers qualify as a bacteria, virus or other disease-causing organism? I think we need to tell the President about this. He'd love to hear that we really did find a weapon of mass destruction.

Math of sociopaths (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16092018)

Because it's a fact of the universe that 1 song = $150k,

($30 million settlement) / ($150,000) = 200 tracks.

If $150k can't be hung over eMule's head, then how can it possibly be threatened against individual file sharer's head? Providing a tool that most likely is mostly intended for illegal file-sharing results in a settlement of -maybe- pennies per track traded, but an individual shown to have a handful of copyrighted tracks in their upload folder is worth $2k per track?

I'm not saying eMule should pay more, or that there should be more (or any!) liability on their part, but I mean...is there a point where the whole thing makes sense and everything clicks without assuming sociopathic tendencies on the part of the RIAA?

I guess that /. interview will tell us the answer we don't want to hear but know we will.

Sorry, I am anonymous. (1)

agent (7471) | about 8 years ago | (#16092037)

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http:// edonkey.com [anonymouse.org]

"The eDonkey2000 Network is no longer available.

If you steal music or movies, you are breaking the law.

Courts around the world -- including the United States Supreme Court --
have ruled that businesses and individuals can be prosecuted for illegal
downloading.

You are not anonymous when you illegally download copyrighted material.

Your IP address is 85.195.119.14 and has been logged.

Respect the music, download legally.

Goodbye Everyone."

Ohnoes! (1)

grazzy (56382) | about 8 years ago | (#16092068)

They got my IP!

IP logging? (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 8 years ago | (#16092084)

Is visiting the edonkey site enough to constitute intent to infringe and bring the wrath of the man down on you?

What "matter"? (1)

Corwn of Amber (802933) | about 8 years ago | (#16092100)

How will it matter since everyone uses eMule?

It will not.

First, I could never get past a queue on that network. As in, "come back in a week or two, maybe less if others drop off".
I can say I never downloaded anything off ed2k...

Second, there is eMule, as just said.

Third, a network that's older than Kazaa's and had not been sued yet must have sucked more (as in "has been even more inefficient") than Win95.

Fourth, it is a centralized network, which, being used for illegal filesharing and little else, is functionaly equivalent to waving a banner written in letters so big you can read them on Google Earth, saying "SUE ME HERE NOW".

Fifth, Every other p2p app used for illegal filesharing is very, very dead since Bram Cohen released BitTorrent.

Sixth ff. [slashdot.org]

Heh I had no idea... (2, Interesting)

Fnkmaster (89084) | about 8 years ago | (#16092161)

My guess is that they agreed to a settlement that the RIAA knew the company didn't have the funds to pay. This will force them into a Chapter 7 liquidation under which the RIAA recoups a fraction of the 30 mil, and lines up with other creditors based on their priority in the capital structure of the firm.

The goal of this is probably to prevent the equity shareholders from getting any return on their dime.

I doubt that eDonkey had greater than 30 mil in cash on hand, and I doubt they even had that in total assets. This is based on my knowledge of the workings of other similar P2P developers and of small tech firms in general.

If I am wrong and they have sold hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising and were sitting on a huge nest egg, I'd be very surprised.
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