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Banned Books published by Google

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the don't-see-my-autobiography-yet dept.

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Lens Hood Man writes "Marking the 25th anniversary of Banned Books Week, Google is inviting users to celebrate their freedom to read by making Banned Books available to all. From the Google Blog: "...you can use Google Book Search to explore some of the best novels of the 20th century which have been challenged or banned." Those books challenged this year include 'To Kill a Mockingbird' and 'Lolita'."

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392 comments

Homework assignment (1, Insightful)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096403)

When Humbert Humbert has sex with Lolita at the Enchanted Hunters for the first time, is Nabokov describing a rape or consensual sex?

Re:Homework assignment (4, Funny)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096422)

Similarly, explain the difference between formal and implicit polymorphism in C++.

HINT: both involve overloading of terms.

Re:Homework assignment (1)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096443)

Will this be on the final?

Re:Homework assignment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096589)

Next week is the practical application of this in the lab assignment.
 

Where the hell is Mein Kampf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096712)

Where the hell is Mein Kampf?

Re:Homework assignment (4, Funny)

From A Far Away Land (930780) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096737)

I guess this means that Google is going to be banned in Alabama libraries? I'm assuming they have libraries in Alabama.

Kidding! Of course they do.

Slashdotted (-1, Offtopic)

dawhippersnapper (861941) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096404)

Slashdot seems to be having big server issues this morning!

What about in China? (1)

PixelPirate (984935) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096406)

I can probably find some banned books that they might find an interesting read, especdially sans redaction...

Re:What about in China? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096669)

I wonder if the Bible would make the list. The Vatican banned it a few centuries back. Some hot and steamy stuff in it, for sure ;)

Re:What about in China? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096746)

In Communist China, Secret Police Google You!

...except china (4, Funny)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096407)

China will just see a big photo of Mao when you try to load the books on Google. Maybe they could get a backdrop of the glowing fire from a pile of books being burned too!

Re:...except china (1)

couch_potato (623264) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096528)

Maybe they could get a backdrop of the glowing fire from a pile of books being burned too!
That would imply that the books ever existed. It simply won't do.

Cool links. [blogspot.com]

Well, things are better here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096555)

On our banned books, we get a pix of laura and george bush.

4364743 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096408)

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Radical, Militant Librarians! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096409)

Re:Radical, Militant Librarians! (1)

oaklybonn (600250) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096537)

How is that possibly off topic?

Just previews? (4, Informative)

Utopia (149375) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096420)

It seems to just previews not the whole books.

 

Re:Just previews? (1)

Distinguished Hero (618385) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096449)

Yeah. I'm getting the same thing. Could it only be available to citizens of certain countries e.g. US, available at a later time, or is the slashdot post just full of "it."

Re:Just previews? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096481)

The write-up is missing some context. For more info on what's being banned and why, see here [ala.org] and here [ala.org] .

Project Gutenberg Has Most of Them (4, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096519)

You're right. They're not publishing these, just making the searchable by all ... er most (pending China's great firewall).

A lot of these I have seen on Project Gutenberg [gutenberg.org] .

Sometimes when I'm dying in my cubicle at work, I open up a random page of James Joyce's Ulysses [gutenberg.org] and drift away ... I was hoping Google would provide the original typesetting (that Joyce was very particular about) but instead it seems I just get a preview :-(

Re:Just previews? (2, Insightful)

jZnat (793348) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096583)

Which is especially annoying for the books that are public domain...

Re:Just previews? (1)

smallferret (946526) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096728)

From the site itself, explaining about previews: http://books.google.com/intl/en/googlebooks/screen shots.html#limitedpreview [google.com]

Limited Preview
If the publisher or author has given us permission, users can see a limited number of pages from the book.
Full View
You can see books in the Full View if the book is out of copyright, or if the publisher or author has asked to make the book fully viewable. The Full View allows you to view any page from the book.

It looked like many of the books were in limited preview (such as 1984)

Very cool (1)

Ixne (599904) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096421)

... except that Call of the Wild is by Jack London, not James Baldwin...

A bit misleading (5, Informative)

jagilbertvt (447707) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096431)

"Google is inviting users to celebrate their freedom to read by making Banned Books available to all."

Google has not made these books available to read online, it just gives you the ability to find a library that has the book.

Re:A bit misleading (3, Funny)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096611)

Exactly!! I finally understand why book publishers are running scared. All these Limited Previews and Find Libraries links are totally destroying their buisness model.

Hu.. what???.

these are banned? (2, Insightful)

brunascle (994197) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096435)

these books are actually banned? this lists sounds more like a list of required-reading books than banned books.

put Anarchist Cookbook on there. i dare you.

Re:these are banned? (2, Informative)

kalirion (728907) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096490)

Headline is misleading. It's "Banned and/or challenged" books, and I have a feeling that most of them have been merely challenged. A parent complaining to the school board about a book seems to be enough to put it in this list. And the ones where were actually "Banned" have merely been banned by one school district or another or some such nonesense. And then the ban was usually overturned. I don't think any of these books are currently banned by the U.S. Government.

Re:these are banned? (1)

pla (258480) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096633)

And the ones where were actually "Banned" have merely been banned by one school district or another or some such nonesense.

Find me a copy of Wilhelm Reich's Creation. Or a 1922 edition of Joyce's Ulysses.

Freedom of the press, indeed.

Re:these are banned? (2, Informative)

Exatron (124633) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096731)

Cute use of quotation marks to belittle others while completely missing the point. A book can be banned at any level of government. The point of these lists is to show just how stupid banning and challenging books really is.

Re:these are banned? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096509)

mein kampf is also not listed

Intellectual dishonesty (3, Funny)

ArsSineArtificio (150115) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096596)

these books are actually banned? this lists sounds more like a list of required-reading books than banned books.

These "Banned Books" lists that librarians like to trumpet tend to be lists of books which were ever banned anywhere by any library at any time, not books which are banned today. So if they can find that some old biddy in Vermont in 1903 didn't like "Huckleberry Finn", it goes straight on the list. The conclusion that you're supposed to draw is that Literature is Under Attack Even Today by Reactionaries who are hiding under your bed.

Re:Intellectual dishonesty (5, Insightful)

Elemenope (905108) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096741)

Sounds like someone doesn't live in hickville. Or belonged to a PTA anywhere. To believe that banning books is either temporally remote or over with is naive AND incorrect. These days parents seem to just are about different stuff, like 'promoting witchcraft' (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings). And sometimes, they succeed for a time (till a suit or injunction slaps them back into shape). Same shite, different decade.

Re:Intellectual dishonesty (1)

soft_guy (534437) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096753)

Literature is Under Attack Even Today by Reactionaries who are hiding under your bed.

And also that any book currently banned isn't really literature and doesn't deserve any attention/protection.

Re:these are banned? (3, Interesting)

kfg (145172) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096666)

this lists sounds more like a list of required-reading books than banned books.

Why do you think there are people who would like to see them banned?

I've got a friend who was raised a JW who was turned from the path of rightousness by the simple act of reading Have Spacesuit Will Travel. His parents weren't happy (and have been shunning him for decades). He wasn't even allowed to visit a library, but obtained the book by the simple invention of placing a library in a bus; the Bookmobile.

The book came to him while his parents weren't looking.

KFG

Re:these are banned? (2, Interesting)

bbagnall (608125) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096720)

Most of these books have been carried everywhere since they were published: in every library, in every book store. As you say, most are actually required reading by government run public highschools. That doesn't seem to be much of a ban. "Jewish Supremacism" by David Duke - now that should make the list. It's officially banned in Canada and gets intercepted at the border and burned. That to me constitutes a real, actual banned book.

I don't see how they are banned books... (0)

PPGMD (679725) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096436)

I don't see how these are banned books, I own several of them, and I read over a dozen on the list for various classes in High School and College. If you write an edgey book like To Kill a Mocking Bird, Catch-22, or 1984, you are going to get challegend on your message, they might even choose at a community level not to stock your book at the library, that doesn't mean that your book has been banned.

Heck most libraries don't carry everything anyway, I can't go get Hustler and Playboy at my Library. At my local library I can't find copies of the Jane's Reference books, or many other books.

There are good books on that list, but you don't need to hype them by saying that they have been banned or censored by "the man." You should take the books as what they are.

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096465)

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096645)

That link perfectly illustrates his point -- "Banned Book Week" revolves entirely around a tiny number of unverified reports of "challenge" of certain books by certain people. It has nothing to do with any meaningful censorship issues going on in the world, the censorship of search results by Google China being a bit more significant than some kid who was upset by the word "nigger" in Huckleberry Finn or To Kill A Mockingbird in 1993.

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (1)

daniil (775990) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096468)

RTFB (read the fine blurb). It says: "you can use Google Book Search to explore some of the best novels of the 20th century which have been challenged or banned" -- meaning that they are not necessarily banned at the moment (although they might be in some other part of the world)

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (1)

dontbflat (994444) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096484)

They were banned in several school districts [foxnews.com] . Maybe not by the whole country but these books have been banned before in different parts of the USA.

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (1)

(A)*(B)!0_- (888552) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096523)

"I don't see how these are banned books"RTFS. It doesn't say they are banned. It says they were banned or challenged. Does that mean they are currently banned? No. It doesn't even mean that they were ever banned. READ FOR UNDERSTANDING.
"you are going to get challegend on your message, they might even choose at a community level not to stock your book at the library, that doesn't mean that your book has been banned."
Good thing they said that these books were banned OR CHALLENGED.
"Heck most libraries don't carry everything anyway"
Really? Most libraries don't carry every book? I'm shocked. Tell me - what libraries do carry every book? And by every book do you mean every edition ever published of the book or just a copy of every unique book? Furthermore, do abridged versions count as separately unique entities? What's the story on paperback versions with an added footnote from the author? Are those separate entities? Thanks for your help finding and understanding your magic libraries that carry every book! Have a great day!

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096693)

Tell me - what libraries do carry every book?

The Library of Congress probably gets closer than any other.

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096551)

. . .you don't need to hype them by saying that they have been banned or censored by "the man."

It's a big world and books may be banned on a local basis. These are books that have been, either successfully or not, the subject of attempts to remove them from shelves of stores/libraries/schools; not merely books that libraries have chosen for one reason or another not to stock ( and I don't know a library worth a damn that wouldn't stock everything available if they had the space/funds. Playboy is not only stocked in many libraries, but has the distinction of the being the most stolen item, the main reason for not stocking it).

Interestingly the list does not include the most banned book in the world: The Bible.

KFG

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (5, Informative)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096557)

I don't see how these are banned books... they might even choose at a community level not to stock your book at the library, that doesn't mean that your book has been banned.

If the government at any level forbids a library from carrying a book, it has been banned. In addition to that, books have been banned for ownership in certain localities.

Heck most libraries don't carry everything anyway, I can't go get Hustler and Playboy at my Library. At my local library I can't find copies of the Jane's Reference books, or many other books.

The difference is, is it the choice of the library or of an external influence? When some of the most popular and requested books, like the Harry Potter books, are not carried by the library because the city council has passed a law preventing the library from carrying them, then they are effectively being censored. This is a common occurrence and something everyone should be aware of.

There are good books on that list, but you don't need to hype them by saying that they have been banned or censored by "the man." You should take the books as what they are.

The point is, they have been banned and burned and what is being celebrated is victory over that. The fact that anyone can go online and find a way to get these books is worth celebrating.

1984 Edgy? (1)

nuggz (69912) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096580)

I don't see how 1984 is that edgy.

It's just a rather blunt warning on freedom of speech and propaganda.

It's just in a story, rather than a simple explanation of why free speech and free thought are important.

Re:1984 Edgy? (1)

amRadioHed (463061) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096716)

It's edgy because it's a warning on freedom of speech and propaganda. The advocacy of freedom of expression and freedom from propaganda is highly offensive to some in power.

Re:1984 Edgy? (0)

tritonman (998572) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096717)

Well there is sex involved in it. What gets me is that the page said it was for the explicit sexual content and "pro-communism", um, I REALLY don't think that 1984 is pro-commie!

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (1)

MartinB (51897) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096673)

Heck most libraries don't carry everything anyway, I can't go get Hustler and Playboy at my Library.
Hey, count me out of visiting *your* town.

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (2, Informative)

lostboy2 (194153) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096696)

From the American Library Association [ala.org] :
What's the Difference between a Challenge and a Banning?
A challenge is an attempt to remove or restrict materials, based upon the objections of a person or group. A banning is the removal of those materials. Challenges do not simply involve a person expressing a point of view; rather, they are an attempt to remove material from the curriculum or library, thereby restricting the access of others. The positive message of Banned Books Week: Free People Read Freely is that due to the commitment of librarians, teachers, parents, students and other concerned citizens, most challenges are unsuccessful and most materials are retained in the school curriculum or library collection.

How is the List of Most Challenged Books Tabulated?
The American Library Association (ALA) collects information from two sources: newspapers and reports submitted by individuals, some of whom use the Challenge Database Form. All challenges are compiled into a database. Reports of challenges culled from newspapers across the country are compiled in the bimonthly Newsletter on Intellectual Freedom (published by the ALA, $40 per year); those reports are then compiled in the Banned Books Week Resource Guide. Challenges reported to the ALA by individuals are kept confidential. In these cases, ALA will release only the title of the book being challenged, the state and the type of institution (school, public library). The name of the institution and its town will not be disclosed.
So I think it just means that these books have been challenged or banned somewhere, not necessarily everywhere, and they're not necessarily challenged/banned any longer.

Re:I don't see how they are banned books... (1)

initialE (758110) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096704)

To Kill a Mockingbird was required reading for me - I was assessed on it for my Literature class. A great work IMO, really cuts to the core on racism. Can someone tell me why it was banned?

WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096447)

"To Kill a Mockingbird, Harper Lee ...Challenged in the Normal, ILL Community High Schools sophomore literature class (2003) as being degrading to African Americans."

I read this book in high school, and I came away from it with a new appreciation for the horrors of racism and injustice. How the hell is it degrading? By showing just how fucked-up the law was in regards to nonwhites?

Really, some people just can't see the forest for the trees...

Good thing we have free medias like slashdot. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096460)

If it weren't for these free speech forums, then information could possibly be censored so that no person knew about it! Examples include books about what's under the clay (if you dig 3 ft. you get clay), and books that claim yet cannot prove that certain politicians are cheating. Luckily those things can be posted here.

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The backyard hole / claymine website: http://amtgard.shop.tm/ [amtgard.shop.tm]

banned books? (4, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096475)

Great! I've been meaning to read up on some musical history.

Re:banned books? (1)

toomz (175524) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096556)

Yes, especially the classics like "Mozart: Behind The Music"

Waitaminute.

Re:banned books? (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096637)

Damn screenreaders...

Lolita? (1, Informative)

rduke15 (721841) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096480)

Has Lolita really been banned? In the US?

I thought there was something in the US constitution about "freedom of speech". Is it still possible to ban a book? And a book which happens to be one of the best books by one of the best authors of the 20th century...

What about the beautiful Kubrick film with Peter Sellers?

Re:Lolita? (1)

TheAmazingJambi (998707) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096525)

It was at one time and local governments have banned it in some places. As for the "freedom of speech" bit in the US constitution, that's what's commonly known as window dressing. It's there to pretty up the document, and make it a bit more palatable, that's all. The sad thing is that sometimes I think I'm only half joking....

Re:Lolita? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096553)

In the US?

In parts of the US, yes. The US constitution only applies at certain levels, and while it protects people from the government, it fails to protect the government from the people. IE, at a school district level, five or six activists could swing the school board vote to someone who will disappear anything the activists don't like.

Re:Lolita? (1)

NFNNMIDATA (449069) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096571)

Only a few of these appear to have been challenged recently. But yes, in the US, especially when it comes to children, people still freak out over naughty words. Because they are morons.

Re:Lolita? (1)

plague3106 (71849) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096592)

Banned from doing a book report on said book. Thats what they mean when they say banned or challanged.

There was an episode of that sitcom MJF was in that dealt with this; his characters sister was told she couldn't do a book report on a certain book, but she did anyway and presented it.

Fortunately I think that crap has died out, but I remember it being a hot topic in the 80s. My HS required us to read several of the books on that list. I wish F451 got more attention; similar to 1984 and addresses this topic exactly.

Re:Lolita? (2, Funny)

plopez (54068) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096601)

I'm waiting for Google to get hit with child pornongraphy charges on that one...

A Couple Good Resources for Finding Banned Books (5, Informative)

SlashdotOgre (739181) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096487)

When I was in college I picked up 100 Banned Books: Censorship Histories of World Literature [1] from my college bookstore. It does a great job of categorizing the books based on why/where they were banned, sumarizing the criticism, etc. Also another good list [2] is published by the American Library Association; it's supposedly the most challenged books from 1990-2000.

[1] http://www.amazon.com/100-Banned-Books-Censorship- Literature/dp/0816040591 [amazon.com]
[2] http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/bbwlink s/100mostfrequently.htm [ala.org]

Google & Censorship (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096491)

Google promoting banned books by linking to a preview of the book isn't doing much in helping remove censorship, especially when most of the books have expired copyrights. Google got burned by the publishing companies.

Where's Stephen King... (-1)

creimer (824291) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096503)

Google's banned book list looks like a required reading list from a college literature. I don't see any of Stephen King's books that were banned by various schools over the years. He's probably the best writer of the last half of the 20th century.

Re:Where's Stephen King... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096529)

Yes, Stephen King is truly an American icon.

Re:Where's Stephen King... (1)

tolan-b (230077) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096544)

Stephen King's writing is atrocious. He may write good stories but his use of language is painful...

Re:Where's Stephen King... (2, Insightful)

FishWithAHammer (957772) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096570)

Heinlein. Card. Asimov. Sturgeon. Ellison.

King's very good, but "the best"?

Re:Where's Stephen King... (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096638)

No offense, but with the exception of Asimov, your list is comprised of a bunch of pulp hacks (of which King is...well..the king).

If you want quality, serious science fiction, check out Gardner Dozois's "Year's Best Science Fiction" ongoing anthology. There are no Star Wars stories in it, but you WILL find a lot of great MODERN science fiction writers who raise many interesting questions about present-day humanity.

-Eric

Re:Where's Stephen King... (2, Funny)

FishWithAHammer (957772) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096701)

Wouldn't touch anything with Dozois's muddy fingerprints on it, ever.

Re:Where's Stephen King... (1)

A Big Gnu Thrush (12795) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096742)

Heinlein, Card, Asimov, Sturgeon, King: all absolute lightweights. If you mean Ralph Ellison -- and you don't -- then you're on the right track with the last one.

Re:Where's Stephen King... (1)

HatchedEggs (1002127) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096600)

King is the best writer of the last half? Ouch... I wouldn't imagine so. That his novels found an audience is certainly believable due to his interesting imagination. I personally don't like his work much.. but know others that do. That said, I certainly wouldn't name him the best. Perhaps the favorite amongst a certain group though, that is certainly plausible.

Re:Where's Stephen King... (1)

plague3106 (71849) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096644)

Why would Stephen King be banned?

He's never written anything contraversial. Never challanged any established ideas. IT was entertaining, but it doesn't have a political message or force us to re-evaluate how we define 'crazy.' It doesn't warn us of the dangers of certain ways of thinking like 1984 does or Brave New World.

Honestly, how could someone even think any of King's books are even in the same league.

Re:Where's Stephen King... (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096649)

If by "best" your measuring stick is sheer volume, then sure -- he's rather prolific. But in terms of quality, surely you can think of a couple of authors whose writing is a bit better than his? My reading selection tends to be fairly narrow and I can think of quite a few authors whose writing surpasses King's.
 

The books are stil banned from public distribution (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096513)

The books are still banned from general public distribution.

Because of copyright extensions, the latest in 1998, A book written in 1926 will now not not be available for public distribution until 2022.

The "Public library" is a compensation for the lack of public information created by unreasonable copyright extensions. With a "Public Library", the government ( being the entity that granted near infinite publishing monopolies ), pays the created monopolies for the "right" to allow limited public access to the works of which the authors are often dead or no longer receive compensation.

Not all banned/challenged books are meaningful (4, Interesting)

shoolz (752000) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096517)

From the list of Top 100 challenged books: [ala.org]

#7 : Harry Potter (Series) by J.K. Rowling
#19: Sex by Madonna
#88: Where's Waldo? by Martin Hanford

Re:Not all banned/challenged books are meaningful (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096548)

'Where's Waldo?' was challenged!? Was his hide n seek strategy not up to par?

Re:Not all banned/challenged books are meaningful (5, Informative)

Hyram Graff (962405) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096639)

"Where's Waldo?" was challenged because of one part in the beach scene where a kid is sticking an ice cream cone on the back of a young lady causing her to lift her topless chest off the ground enough to see breasts. (It should be noted that her top is on the towel under her.)

Re:Not all banned/challenged books are meaningful (1)

monoqlith (610041) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096756)

I believe the reason was that in the book, "Where's Waldo? Find Waldo Now!", Waldo is found in one frame hiding inside a woman's vagina.

Apparently one of the frames from the adult edition of the book was mistakenly placed inside a proof for the children's edition. The scene depicted is a giant orgy.

This is, of course, a scandalous oversight. Children should not have to see Waldo's head sticking out of some poor woman's crotch.

Re:Not all banned/challenged books are meaningful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096561)

Are you saying there are books more meaningful than these three? This I've gotta see!

Re:Not all banned/challenged books are meaningful (1)

Exatron (124633) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096748)

And who gave you the authority to decide which books are considered meaningful?

How do I read the books? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096527)

I can get to "limited previews" for the books, but can I read the whole thing?

Re:How do I read the books? (1)

CrunchyMunchy (23178) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096576)

no. So you could have done a google search for banned books and gotten the same results ...useless

Holy crap! (1)

MMaestro (585010) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096558)

Is this for real? Are people seriously challenging/banning some of these books? Just at the names of some of these books.

1984, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Lord of the Flies, Ulysses, Heart of Darkness, A Farewell to Arms, Invisible Man.

Why not just ban all books from the second half of the 20th century and be done with it? These are CLASSICS, the books literature experts practically memorize by heart. What next? Are we going to ban The Odyssey because of the violence?

Re:Holy crap! (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096642)

Agreed, most of these books are required reading in English classes in high school and many will read them in college too. This seems like more of a list of books that were randomly challenged at some point in time for who knows what reason. But the list of authors makes for excellent reading: Hemingway, Faulkner, Fitzgerald, Morrison, etc.

Re:Holy crap! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096689)

"Are we going to ban The Odyssey because of the violence?"

No. Only GTA: The Odyssey.

Re:Holy crap! (1)

bbagnall (608125) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096750)

The list is BS, man. Use your head. None of these books have been banned, they are required reading in government public high schools. Mein Kampf? I bet that is banned in Germany.

Excellent timing. (3, Interesting)

M-2 (41459) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096573)

Considering we're coming up on Banned Books Week 2006 [ala.org] , this is the perfect time to make these books available.

And yes, every book that Google has up there has been banned or challenged in public libraries across the country. There are still places where 'To Kill A Mockingbird' or 'Tom Sawyer' are considered improper reading for children - and for adults.

Good work, Google. Keep on it.

for those that don't get it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096579)

these are books that were historically banned... at various points in time... not books currently banned anywhere. Learn some history.

Ready for the Bookstore (1)

Deinhard (644412) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096586)

As is in the case in so many of these situations, this list has just piqued my interest more. I've read many of these novels but now I just have more in my reading list.

Banned? Try heavily promoted. (1, Insightful)

bbagnall (608125) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096603)

I can't help but notice that most of these books have been carried everywhere since they were published: in every library, in every book store. Perhaps one small rural school system somewhere decided not to order it, hence they start crying about it being banned. That doesn't seem to be much of a ban. In contract, books that have really been banned don't appear on the list anywhere. For example, "Jewish Supremacism" by David Duke is officially banned in Canada and gets intercepted at the border and burned. That to me constitutes a real, actual banned book.

Re:Banned? Try heavily promoted. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096631)

You make a very good point. We like to jump up vocally when some library decides not to carry some book because it talks about sexual themes or whatever, but when Canada, Germany, or whoever else outright arrest people for publishing or ordering anti-Semetic/racist/neo-nazi materials, many people are hypocritically silent on the issue.

Mod parent up!

Call of the wild has the wrong author listed (1)

bigattichouse (527527) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096619)

(from TFA):

The Call of the Wild
James Baldwin
"Baldwin... has really unusual substantive powers but conventional ingenuity in form...[a] beautiful, furious first novel." - The New York Times

I do believe it was Jack London.

Five of these were my High School textbooks! (1)

ribuck (943217) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096635)

I was surprised to find that five of the 42 "banned books" were ones I studied at high school in the 1970s: To Kill a Mockingbird, 1984, Lord of the Flies, Brave New World, Sons & Lovers.

That's 12%. Can anyone do better?

Re:Five of these were my High School textbooks! (1)

justinjus (859724) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096724)

I just read Brave New World LAST year.

"banned" theme getting to be kind of lame (1)

cascadingstylesheet (140919) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096640)

Getting excited about stuff that isn't actually banned anymore is a pretty cheap and easy way of feeling like a rebel ...

Banned books are a historical curiosity now, at least in the lands where people are going to get excited about this. You aren't brave for reading Lolita.

Show us books that have been banned for a reason! (1)

b4jts (816849) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096652)

1984? Of Mice and Men? These aren't books that any sane person would ban, even if some private schools ran by fools do so, it's going to be availible in every library.

Upload books that have been banned for a "good" reason, like Mein Kampf, and this could actually be interesting.

Google Cut and Paste! (2, Informative)

bigattichouse (527527) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096657)

Google Cut and Paste for the LOSE! The correct entry: Go Tell it on the Mountain James Baldwin "Baldwin... has really unusual substantive powers but conventional ingenuity in form...[a] beautiful, furious first novel." - The New York Times Books about Go Tell it on the Mountain followed later by the incorrect entry: The Call of the Wild James Baldwin "Baldwin... has really unusual substantive powers but conventional ingenuity in form...[a] beautiful, furious first novel." - The New York Times Books about The Call of the Wild

Server's down here's a mirror... (1)

LotsOfPhil (982823) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096690)

Just kidding, I guess there aren't that many people who read slashdot.

In unrelated news, who knew that James Baldwin ghost-wrote for Jack London? Google, that's who.
The Call of the Wild
James Baldwin
"Baldwin... has really unusual substantive powers but conventional ingenuity in form...[a] beautiful, furious first novel." - The New York Times

Banned... (3, Interesting)

DarkBlackFox (643814) | more than 6 years ago | (#16096692)

And yet, close to 70% of the books listed there were part of my high school's English curriculum. Not "suggested reading," or anything else we had to read on our own, but part of the coursework over my 4 years of high school. Maybe that's just how we do thing around here, but as "contraversial" as the subject matter of each book may or may not be, I can read that list and remember the ideas presented from each book. I remember discussing the credits and demerits of each concept in an objective way as part of the class. I can't see why anyone would want to ban these literary icons from schools or libraries, when the dissection of each only lends to the ability to think freely and creatively, and develop critical thinking and reasoning skills.

Banning a book is ok! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#16096714)

Sometimes books need to be banned or the terrorists-will-stop-thinking-about-the-children-a nd-win-the-war-of-evil.

Nazi's used to BURN the bookes they feared. See? We Americans are much better than Nazis.
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