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The Top 5 Games of All Time

samzenpus posted about 8 years ago | from the easily-diablo2 dept.


An anonymous reader writes "The guys over at trusted reviews have come up with lists of their top five games of all time. There are some obvious choices and some very obscure ones, but on the whole its interesting reading. See how their lists compare to yours."

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Online Scrabble & Chess.. (1, Redundant)

WinEveryGame (978424) | about 8 years ago | (#16101916)

What about Scrabble and Chess? These have the busiest game rooms on online play sites such as Yahoo Games.

Re:Online Scrabble & Chess.. (2, Insightful)

SharpFang (651121) | about 8 years ago | (#16101958)

If the title meant ALL TIMES, then yes, chess or some card game would likely win. Same as Bible is the ultimate bestseller of all times.

Re:Online Scrabble & Chess.. (2, Funny)

pookemon (909195) | about 8 years ago | (#16102045)

Ahh - this it the list of THEIR favourites. Not yours, or mine, but theirs... If you can convince them that they like Scrabble or Chess better than the games in the list, then maybe they'll update the list for you.

What? No Freebird? (4, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | about 8 years ago | (#16101927)

This list sucks!

Re:What? No Freebird? (1)

jsharkey (975973) | about 8 years ago | (#16101962)

Wow, I'm blinded by that yellow pacman! I don't think he's seen the light of day for years. :p

Re:What? No Freebird? (1)

andersa (687550) | about 8 years ago | (#16102206)

Where is Aztec Challenge [] ?????

Best music and gameplay, like.. evaahhh

Lists Lists Lists (4, Insightful)

Freaky Spook (811861) | about 8 years ago | (#16101929)

Have all of these news/blog sites run out of things to write about because it seems this year everywhere has been inundated with dam lists.

Re:Lists Lists Lists (5, Funny)

pookemon (909195) | about 8 years ago | (#16102062)

Inundated? Go on then, list the Top 5 lists we've been inundated with... ;)

Re:Lists Lists Lists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102071)

Dam lists? As in lists that hold back water? I'm confused.

Re:Lists Lists Lists (4, Funny)

EEBaum (520514) | about 8 years ago | (#16102157)

Indeed. []

Re:Lists Lists Lists (5, Funny)

astromog (866411) | about 8 years ago | (#16102164)

The top 5 dams of all time: 1. Hoover Dam 2. Benmore Dam 3. Grande Dixence Dam 4. Keban Dam 5. Verzasca dam.

Re:Lists Lists Lists (0)

SurturZ (54334) | about 8 years ago | (#16102218)

You forgot

0. God Dam

Er, random? (1)

HatchedEggs (1002127) | about 8 years ago | (#16101935)

I really didn't think that all of those should be as highly ranked. Granted we all have those that we are most attached to... but there had to be better ones that several they posted.

Re:Er, random? (1)

Moofie (22272) | about 8 years ago | (#16102078)

So, you're going to bag on their opinion, and not offer one of your own? OK then. Thanks for sharing.

Re:Er, random? (5, Insightful)

skam240 (789197) | about 8 years ago | (#16102265)

This list looks much more like a bunch of people trying to prove their gaming 133TN355 by claiming obscure favorites. I'll site as an example Dungeon Explorer. For starters the author of the article refers to the system it came out on by its Japanese name "PC Engine" rather than what it was marketed as in the US, "TurboGrafx-16", which is what most American gamers would know it as (I myself was confused for a few minutes until I remembered this fact). Then there's the very fact that this person is naming it one of their top 5 games ever. I've played Dungeon Explorer. Allot. Me and my older brother played the hell out of it when I was younger. It was great. But to call a slightly more advanced Gauntlet one of the best games of all time is absurd.

There's plenty of other examples to go from on the list (like naming civilization instead of civ2), most of which is comprised of good games that didn't sell well, are really old, came from systems most people didn't own or some combination of the previous three. "Good games" is the key phrase here too. Most of the games on the list are in fact good games, they're just not, for the most part, top 5 list worthy.

So in summary, I felt like I was reading an article written by those kids we all knew in school who wouldn't listen to anything that sold over 10,000 albums just so they could look cool.

No RTS games in the lineup? (4, Insightful)

EmperorKagato (689705) | about 8 years ago | (#16101942)

Starcraft isn't that good of a game worth mentioning? Knights and Merchants?! Age of Empires?

okay seriusly (1)

nude-fox (981081) | about 8 years ago | (#16101953)

what the fuck i saw 5 top games list of all time and when i klicked the link it gave me some 29 page shit now call me crazy but it dosent take 29 fucking pages to tell me your favorite top 5 games

Beacuse it's 5 games for EACH of the reviewers (1)

spoco2 (322835) | about 8 years ago | (#16102044)

You could at least have just clicked on the contents dropdown to see that.

Re:Beacuse it's 5 games for EACH of the reviewers (1)

srh2o (442608) | about 8 years ago | (#16102087)

Sorry I don't care how many reviewers these 29 page articles are ridiculous. I am so tired of these damn Burma Shave articles

Re:Beacuse it's 5 games for EACH of the reviewers (4, Informative)

spoco2 (322835) | about 8 years ago | (#16102115)

I realise that it's all for the ads, but realistically, each page has a lot of content, with screenshots, detailed rundown of the game etc. It's a lot better than I've seen on other sites.

If there are 5 reviewers (I didn't count), then a game a page plus some extra fluff for intros and you have 29 pages.

The Real Best Games (5, Funny)

VirusEqualsVeryYes (981719) | about 8 years ago | (#16101966)

Tch. Everyone knows that the real top 5 are:

1. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2. Halo 2
3. Half Life 2
4. Counter Strike
5. Battlefield 2

All my 11-year-old neighbors told me so.

Re:The Real Best Games (2, Interesting)

jcenters (570494) | about 8 years ago | (#16102193)

Sounds about as good, if not better than their list. I've been a gamer for over nineteen years, and I have to say that Counter-Strike and BF2 are two of the best online shooters ever, GTA:SA is truly a revolutionary game that has more content than you can shake a stick at, and Half Life 2 has the best pacing of any game I've played.

My buddy and I spent most of the summer arguing over the best games of all time. The problem? How do you determine? Do you go by pure fun factor, or do you also consider timelessness, innovation, and/or influence? For instance, Super Mario Bros. is one of the most influential titles ever, but most would consider Mario 3 or World to be superior. Which one wins out?

Though they made an excellent point with Blade Runner, which IMHO is perhaps the best graphical adventure ever made.

My picks for the best games, based off my own personal enjoyment:

Best Single Player FPS: Doom (Close second would be HL2)
Best Online FPS: Quake
Best JRPG: Final Fantasy VII
Best Western RPG: Oblivion
Best Platformer: Super Mario World (Mario 3 is a damn close second, NSMB a somewhat distant third)
Best Sports: NBA Jam (Second place goes to the NFL2K series)
Best Arcade: Yar's Revenge
Best Strategy: Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Best Text Adventure: Zork
Best Overall: GTA: San Andreas (Say what you will, but what other game combines action, stealth, racing, rhythm, basketball, arcade games, and even a dating sim into a huge, open world? Combine with a great plot and RPG elements, and you have what is perhaps, to date, the ULTIMATE game.)

Something to be said for Counter-Strike (1)

sir_montag (937262) | about 8 years ago | (#16102198)

There is something to be said for Counter-Strike. I used to map for it though, so I might have a bit of positive bias heh.

Re:The Real Best Games (1)

Cokeisbomb (1001675) | about 8 years ago | (#16102237)

I think everyone that has really played games will agree with me on the following list: 1. RBI Baseball (NES) 2. Tecmo Super Bowl (NES 3. Simcity 2000 (Windows 3.1) 4. Half-Life (Windows 98) 5. Civilization (I,II,III, IV, and hopefully V)

Games every gamer should try (4, Interesting)

DrStrangeLug (799458) | about 8 years ago | (#16101971)

  1. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri - Best Civ Game Ever , Dispite not being a true civ game.
  2. Halflife. Enough said.
  3. Deus Ex. This is how game storylines should work - smartly.
  4. Hostile Waters . You can pick this up now for less than a 10 and you'd be a fool not to.
  5. Spore - Hurry up and release the damn thing! And I WILL torrent it from the US while I wait for a UK release if they do that staggered release date crap.

Re:Games every gamer should try (1)

SRA8 (859587) | about 8 years ago | (#16102079)

What is wrong with you people? The top 5 are undeniably: 1. Legend of Zelda 2. Civilization 3. Super Street Fighter II 4. Dune II 5. Doom

PONG ??? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16101979)

If it doesn't include Pong, then it's not a real list.

Not a single mention of nethack! (4, Funny)

Virak (897071) | about 8 years ago | (#16101982)

What is this blasphemy doing on slashdot?!

Avoid at all costs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16101987)

Top 5 games of all time. 30 pages. Fuck these guys.

of all time? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16101992)

This certainly isn't an "of all time" list. The vast majority of the games are from the last 15 years and it's very heavy on console games (No Zork? Or Pac Man?). As a gamer (tabletop, arcade, PC, and even consoles) I have NEVER understood the appeal of gaming consoles. 20 years ago consoles were a worthwhile investment since they could smash computers in every area except input (mouse/joystick/keyboard vs. crummy gamepad). At this point computers smash consoles in every area, and two genres (FPS and RPG) are literally impossible to realize with the crippled input devices provided with your typical console.

Trusted Reviews? (5, Insightful)

The Bungi (221687) | about 8 years ago | (#16101994)

OK, so we have 29 pages, each with ~6 paragaphs of text and at least four large animated banner ads.

Quality of layout and choice of graphics aside, this is really a pointless review. But who exactly are these people at Since when do they exist, and why are we supposed to trust them?

And why does Slashdot keep posting what they write [] again and again?

All good questions, but first... (3, Funny)

sir_montag (937262) | about 8 years ago | (#16102209)

Why don't you click on a few ads though? ;)

29 trusted reviews later (5, Funny)

shawn443 (882648) | about 8 years ago | (#16102002)

and I just puked advertisements.

Re:29 trusted reviews later (4, Interesting)

Firehed (942385) | about 8 years ago | (#16102038)

I cheated. Clicking on the drop-down and just reading the titles is so damned easy. Well, not for copying and pasting the list in here for karma whoring, but it was interesting to see DOTT make it in there. And Jedi Knight... I wish I still knew where my discs were for that.

I couldn't think of five (1)

Petrushka (815171) | about 8 years ago | (#16102013)

Hmm. I got as far as

  • Ultima IV
  • Civilization II
  • Unreal Tournament (classic)

and couldn't bring myself to add others. While things like Half Life, Starcraft, Deus Ex, BG2, Rogue, and Grim Fandango are all great games, they either didn't change the way I thought about games in quite the way the above three did, or else I don't still enjoy playing them. Rogue and Deus Ex were great, but I just don't play them now, or not much. I don't think Half Life has quite the perfect storyline it needs to make a top five list. Anyway, I'll settle for a top three.

My own list (4, Insightful)

nsayer (86181) | about 8 years ago | (#16102022)

Not that my opinion is worth a damn, but it's free.

bzflag, because it remains the premiere open-source 3d multiplayer game, in my view.

Doom, because it practically reinvented the FPS, both in terms of originality of gameplay and graphics quality.

Tempest, because it represents the pinacle of the vector game. No, it wasn't the most advanced one, but best in terms of gameplay, look, adictiveness, and quite frankly, unit sales.

Robotron, because it is the best adrenaline pumping game ever made. Retire the cup.

Pac-Man, because of its sheer iconic status. There were games before Pac-Man, and games after Pac-Man. But anyone can look at any game and immediately be able to say with certainty which group it belongs in. No other game of its time can say that.

Honorable mention goes to Myst, which, like Doom to the FPS, represented a redefinition of the adventure game.

You're welcome.

Re:My own list (1)

Ours (596171) | about 8 years ago | (#16102112)

Honorable mention goes to Myst, which, like Doom to the FPS, represented a redefinition of the adventure game.
Redefined as a boring series of pretty postcards with puzzles in-between? I'll have my Monkey Island instead any day of the week.

Re:My own list (1)

jamesh (87723) | about 8 years ago | (#16102228)

Doom, because it practically reinvented the FPS, both in terms of originality of gameplay and graphics quality.

You obviously never wasted a summer playing wolfenstein 3d then?

Doom would make the list for bringing in network multiplayer though. The amount of time I wasted with cheap network cards, cheap (probably not proper 50 ohm network quality :) coax and making network terminators with a coax connector, a 50 ohm resistor and a soldering iron... just to play a multiplayer game of Doom :)

Then there was trying to run TCP/IP over a dos SLIP packet driver to a linux box with 4 serial ports in it, before we could afford network cards

Wolfenstein (5, Informative)

Frankie70 (803801) | about 8 years ago | (#16102250)

Doom, because it practically reinvented the FPS, both in terms of originality of gameplay and graphics quality.

No, that was Wolfenstein.
I liked Doom better, but it was Wolf which reinvented the genre.

What? No Panzer Dragoon Saga? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102033)

The best games of all time would definitely have to be: Panzer Dragoon Saga (also known as Azel: Panzer Dragoon RPG in Japan) - an absolutely phenomenal game that no one has obviously played.

Panzer Dragoon Saga has set the benchmark for all games, and there is nothing in the past, present, and possibly even the future, that can dominate this incredible gaming experience. PDS is the way gaming should be.

My two cents. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102035)

Some of my favourites:

Ultima 7
Castlevania (especially Symphony of the Night)
Legend of Zelda
Star Control 2

Re:My two cents. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102102)

And, what the hell, Nethack. I can die happy now that I've ascended.

Early bungie games (4, Informative)

Hachey (809077) | about 8 years ago | (#16102037)

I'm sorry, but the ol' days of Bungie before they got bought out by Microsoft (man, at the time I was thinkin' that was a cold day in hell) had one of the best games of all time. Marathon. Little is it known but this game gave _birth_ to the rocket jump. The story line was friggin phenomenal. It could be scary as hell. Coming out just a year after doom, it made all the right changes (larger deathmatches, multiple floors per level, etc). And let us not forget the game that gave birth to the age old crazy AI video game meme. That was a golden egg for sure.

and one more thing... Frog blast the vent core!!!!

Re:Early bungie games (1)

Moofie (22272) | about 8 years ago | (#16102088)

I loved playing King of the Hill in that circular arena, where the "hill" was a stripe across the diameter. Grab the biggest weapon you spawn near, get to the stripe, and run back and forth blasting anybody you can see. Die. Repeat.

That was The Zone for me. I'd stop thinking, and just play. That was good, good times.

What? (4, Funny)

Sathias (884801) | about 8 years ago | (#16102049)

What? The particular game which I would have included if I made the list myself wasn't named? What an outrage!

missing game (4, Funny)

macadamia_harold (947445) | about 8 years ago | (#16102051)

See how their lists compare to yours

My #1 favorite game is "hide the sausage". Wonder why they didn't list that one.

Re:missing game (3, Funny)

trash eighty (457611) | about 8 years ago | (#16102187)

er this is slashdot dude, you may have to explain that one

San Andreas is for pussies (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102052)

San Andreas, like all "Grand Theft Auto" games, is for pussies who take their anger out in game cause they're too scared to do anything in real life. Oh yeah you're so big and bad beating the cop, oh wait he's just pixels on a screen, I bet in real life you'd suck his dick if he threatened to arrest you, you pussy!!!! Cockstar makes games for little kids.

Re:San Andreas is for pussies (1)

cyanid3 (998026) | about 8 years ago | (#16102174)

OK kid, calm down...Breathe in....Breathe out....S.L.O.W..... The world is not coming to an end, go to sleep. :)

How can these guys call themselves gamers? (5, Insightful)

lewp (95638) | about 8 years ago | (#16102056)

Mario 64 instead of Super Mario Bros. 3 or Super Mario World?
Ocarina of Time instead of Zelda or A Link to the Past?
Jedi Knight instead of KotOR?
Formula 1 GP instead of Gran Turismo?
Unreal Tournament instead of Quake?
No Starcraft?
No Final Fantasy (take your pick) or, at the very least, Chrono Trigger?
No Grand Theft Auto?

I'm missing a bunch I know, but I've only been thinking about this for a few minutes.

Nobody even went oldschool and mentioned a true classic like Donkey Kong, Pit Fall, Pac Man, or Space Invaders.

Which video games are the "best" is ultimately pretty subjective, but they've picked sequels that undeniably weren't the best in their series even. Everyone's got their "out there" pick for an obscure game that they happened to get hooked on, but how can you put those in a "top 5 games of all time" list when there are absolute masterpieces that are basically the same game done better?

Glad I didn't bother to RTF this A and just skimmed the list of games.

Re:How can these guys call themselves gamers? (1)

lewp (95638) | about 8 years ago | (#16102076)

Shoulda thrown my own list in there:

1) Chrono Trigger
2) Doom
3) Super Mario Bros. 3
4) Starcraft
5) Tetris (mainly because of Tetrinet... so addictive)

UT Quake (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102132)

Unreal Tournament instead of Quake?

Of course. You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it.
UT owned Quake. Heck, even Quake 3 Arena could not hold a candle to UT.
Maps were better in UT. Weapons were better in UT. The only thing Q3A had on UT was player models.
Everything else was far better in UT. All the REAL gamers know it.

Re:UT Quake (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102241)

The double barreled shotgun, shaft, nailgun and rocket launcher are the classic FPS weapons. The railgun too, though it wasn't in the original. UT has some good weapons, the Shock Rifle, and the Flak Cannon. Most of them are just gimmicks, though.

Original Quake maps receive homages and updates in new games to this day. Nobody gives a rat's ass about UT.

The original Quake still has an active fanbase making maps and doing things like speedruns. Once again, nobody gives a rat's ass about UT. Heck, I can barely find a decent UT2k4 game on the rare occasion I bust it out.

Quake had TF and invented FPS CTF. Half the game mods in current FPSs, including UT, are ripped off from what Quake mods did first.

None of this takes into the account that Quake is what pushed people to buy Pentiums with high powered graphics cards in the first place, paving the way for lesser games like UT and basically everything made today. Quake is the originator of the "true" 3d FPS. Quake is where real player-created mods caught on. Quake is where TCP/IP multiplayer became the standard.

On top of all this, Quake's sequel, Quake II, predates the original Unreal by a year or two. It's really unfair to compare them back to back since UT has such a big advantage in available horsepower, a newer game engine, and the benefit of scrutinizing for 3-4 years what Quake got right and missed. It doesn't even matter, though, because Quake is still the better game by a country mile.

Next time you're going to fail, make it less obvious.

A vote for a roach. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102058)

Bad Mojo: Redux because roaches have feelings too.

let the platforms wars begin (1)

dualmoo (997181) | about 8 years ago | (#16102061)

The best platforms:

- 16 PC
- 2 Nintendo 64
- 2 Sinclair ZX Spectrum
- 1 Nintendo Gameboy
- 1 Nintendo Gamecube
- 1 PC Engine
- 1 Playstation 2
- 1 Sega Dreamcast

I see a little bias there ;-)

Re:let the platforms wars begin (5, Informative)

dualmoo (997181) | about 8 years ago | (#16102096)

For those interested, here is the complete list:

- Resident Evil 4 - Nintendo GameCube
- Chaos - Sinclair ZX Spectrum
- Dungeon Explorer - PC Engine
- Blade Runner - PC
- Riyad: Mario 64 - Nintendo 64

- The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - N64
- Lords of Midnight - Sinclair ZX Spectrum
- Civilization - PC
- ICO - PlayStation 2
- Half-Life - PC

- X-Wing vs Tie Fighter - PC
- Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 - PC
- Counter-Strike - PC
- Unreal Tournament - PC
- Shenmue - Sega Dreamcast

- Kick Off - PC
- Sim City - PC
- Tetris - Nintendo GameBoy
- Championship Manager 2 - PC
- Formula 1 GP - PC

- Commander Keen - PC
- Lemmings - PC
- Doom - PC
- Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge - PC
- Day of the Tentacle - PC

top 5... hmm (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102063)

1. Lands of Lore: The Throne Of Chaos
2. System Shock
3. Deus Ex
4. Unreal Tournament
5. Half-Life

damn it run out of numbers, there's just too many ... DOOM, Transport Tycoon, ...

Re:top 5... hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102099)

umm... Far Cry, Command & Conquer, Fallout, Starcraft, ....

Oh I'm pretty sure Crysis will be there... ;)

Top 15 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102068)

I can't stop at five. So here is my top 15 OF ALL TIME in no particular order.

Spy Hunter
Discs of Tron
Steel Talons
Section Z
Omega Race
After Burner II
Space Harrier
Unreal Tournament GOTY (99)
Metal Gear Solid

You're joking, right? (1)

Moofie (22272) | about 8 years ago | (#16102069)

30 pages? Which means 30 paragraphs?

Uh, yeah. Uh, no.

Oh yeah! Spectrum Chaos! (2, Interesting)

spoco2 (322835) | about 8 years ago | (#16102074)

Chaos page in list []

I remember this game only after reading that... and man, yeah it was great. I think I got the whole game free on a cover cassette of Your Sinclair [] !

That really brought back memories, and just for that I thank those guys for their lists. :)

My list... (1)

pookemon (909195) | about 8 years ago | (#16102077)

1. Battlefield 2 (PC)
2. Far Cry (PC)
3. HALO (PC)
4. SWIV (Amiga)
5. Blue Max (C64)

Re:My list... (1)

Tei (520358) | about 8 years ago | (#16102139)

2 has no replay value.
3 no idea why is on that list, dont look special to me. Maybe have you played the console version?
5 whas good, but there are other interesting games on that area. Zeppelin, Fort Apococalipse, Spindizzy. Blue Max whas somewhat lineal.

My top 5... (3, Insightful)

Loligo (12021) | about 8 years ago | (#16102085)

Ok, I've been a gamer of various sorts for approaching 30 years, and the only game on their list that I think belongs in a top TWENTY is Doom.

Top 5, in no particular order.

Adventure for the Atari 2600 (Warren Robbinett forever)
Civilization II (sorry, Civ fans, Civ 2 is the definitive version)
Utopia for the Intellivision (the FIRST widespread RTS)
Asteroids arcade version

These aren't even my top five favorites of all time, but the ones I feel deserve even more recognition than they got (ESPECIALLY Utopia, we wouldn't have Starcraft without it). They pioneered generations of games, and their influence is still felt today.


Re:My top 5... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102136)

Utopia was an outstanding game for its time, no doubt. I actually went looking for that when I heard they made those intellivision 10in1 game systems, but sadly, none of them included that one. I'm not sure I'd include that in my own top 5, but I definetly think it's a game that does not get enough respect or honorable mentions.

Think I'll go hunt down an intellivision emulator and some roms...

Again with this? (1)

inviolet (797804) | about 8 years ago | (#16102095)

Not this again.

Would someone please create a metalist? You can title it "The Top 100 Top n Games Of All Time Of All Time".


And just where the hell is Elite (5, Informative)

shockwaverider (78582) | about 8 years ago | (#16102098)

What about Elite [] on the BBC micro?

OK - Lets forget that
  • It was the first truly 3D 8 bit game
  • It had 8 galaxies, each containing 256 solarsystems to explore
  • It had missions, and police ships as well as pirates and traders, and the ability to be either
But fer Chrissakes it was coded into 18Kbytes of handcrafted 6502 machine code. That alone deserves a mention!

Re:And just where the hell is Elite (1)

CaptnMArk (9003) | about 8 years ago | (#16102249)

Yes, Elite ruled.

If not elite, maybe least Wing Commander.

My list:

Elite/Wing Commander
Dune II/TA
Civ/Alpha Centauri/Railroad Tycoon
Diablo 2

Also, Day of the Tentacle was nice.

X-Wing vs TIE Fighter (1)

8ball629 (963244) | about 8 years ago | (#16102100)

Wow. I can't believe my favorite game ever - a very underrated game - made it to a top 5 list.

Any other fans from the Zone ;)?

No Elite!? (2, Insightful)

Hylander (82626) | about 8 years ago | (#16102108)

The complete lack of "Elite" on these lists must be a conspiracy! I thought maybe they were all kids, but one of them at least names Lords of Midnight, which was pretty awesome. Nowhere near as good as elite though.

My top 5 (1)

phil1984 (709709) | about 8 years ago | (#16102111)

1. Doom (PC/Mac)
2. Super Mario Bros 3 (Nes)
3. Goldeneye (N64)
4. Myth II (PC/Mac)
5. Metroid Prime (GC)

Hooray Lucasarts! (1)

adolfojp (730818) | about 8 years ago | (#16102117)

Monkey Island 2 and Day of the Tentacle. It is good to see some graphic adventure games on the list. :-)

Nope, not right (1)

davmoo (63521) | about 8 years ago | (#16102124)

Any "top 5 games" list that does not include Zork is obviously fucked, and cannot be trusted.

My List... (1)

cableshaft (708700) | about 8 years ago | (#16102134)

Basically my list's criteria are games that were previously never even considered by game designers (and might never have been considered by other developers, or conceived in that way), that really changed how people thought about designing games and made everyone want to make their own versions of them :P.

1. Civilization
2. Super Mario Brothers
3. Tetris
4. Doom
5. Street Fighter II

5 is really too small, but I think that pretty well covers it. For me, at least. I really don't play much outside those types of games (and racing).

Re:My List... (1)

uvajed_ekil (914487) | about 8 years ago | (#16102233)

Pretty damn close to my list:

1. Pacman

2. Super Mario Bros

3. Doom

4. Tetris

5. Civilization

Can solitaire count? If so, it knocks Civilization off the list and bumps Tetris down. I know this thread is kind of silly, but I am pretty sure my list makes the most sense. Pacman was a major societal phenomenon, as was Super Mario, while Doom was the real jumping-off point for the FPS, Tetris was like crack but cheaper and worse for your social life, and Civilization was simply an amazing game and something really fresh that challenged all sorts of people - a game for adults and non-gamers.

A top ten list should also include The Legend of Zelda, Mortal Kombat, some version of Madden NFL, and Subspace/Continuum, and maybe even Quake, Halo, Counter Strike, or something newer in the FPS realm, though I'm less sure that these mean as much to as many people (especially Subspace/Continuum, though I STILL play in Trenchwars, even after probably close to ten years).

Star Control II, Half-Life, X-Com UFO, Evil Genius (1, Insightful)

sir_montag (937262) | about 8 years ago | (#16102140)

No contest as to the top five -

1. Star Control II
2. Half-Life
3. X-Com UFO
4. Master of Orion
5. Evil Genius

These are all games you could play for months and not get bored - that's how I tend to determine what is a good game. *Especially* if I come back to it a decade later.

one little change (1)

Spikeles (972972) | about 8 years ago | (#16102160)

I salute you with respect Sir Montaq, all the above are great games, although i'd personally change Masters of Orion to Betrayal at Krondor.

Re:one little change (1)

sir_montag (937262) | about 8 years ago | (#16102167)

MOO just has that replay value... Krondor is an excellent game, but how many times in a row can you play it?

Slow news day? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102142)

Love Tester.

An Elementary School Classic (1)

treppie (985402) | about 8 years ago | (#16102144)

What? No Oregon Trail?

naaaaaaaa (1)

Hylander (82626) | about 8 years ago | (#16102146)

Elite, Tetris, Nethack, The Hobbit, World of Warcraft ;)

Huge PC gaming bias. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102148)

17 of their 25 games (5 reviewers with their own top 5s) are PC games. Only 2 other systems have more than one spot on their lists. Those are the N64 and the Sinclair ZX Spectrum. Not a single game is from the NES, SNES, Sega, Genesis, Arcade, Playstation or Atari. Only portable game on the list is Tetris on the GameBoy.

Missing a few titles. (1)

Dersaidin (954402) | about 8 years ago | (#16102151)

WOLFENSTEIN FRANCHISE. Return to Castle Wolfenstien Wolfenstien: Enemy Territory These games are far better than any in that list. List should be: 1) Wolfenstien: Enemy Territory 2) Age of Empires 2: Conquers Expansion 3) Half-Life 2 (just the single player) 4) Quake 3 5) Warcraft III

Deli's Top 5 (1)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | about 8 years ago | (#16102159)

1. Descent - 6 Degrees of freedom done right and one of the first games to push beyond earth normal physics arguably paving the way for other games to move outside reality.

2. Quake 1 the first fps that allowed for tactical gameplay akin to chess, your skills developed as you played and there was always something more to learn, birth of first game player as idol "Thresh".

Starcraft - Micromanagement and Resource spooging.

Civilization 2 (I just played all 4 it's the best one) - Showing how gaming can make you see the world in meta. Very important because it shows how gaming's active involvement can show you the methods in a system, the better you get the closer your creation approaches reality (hopefully).

5. Planescape Torment - Why? Very simply, get this get that quests are out and you are really curious about what will happen next unlike ff7 where you merely care about the characters, this suspense and good writing actually allows you to try and predict what will happen, most games penalize you for doing this by being poorly written but Torment's Twists just add to the experience.

Honourable mention: Star Roads - No twitchers on the list you say? Star roads is here because it likens to the days of pong and pac man yet it has aged FAR better than either game (or galaga) it brought in elements like time limits which have become a huge staple, might not be the first game but it's still tonnes of fun, also a great midi soundtrack (Which pushed it past Tetris).

My Top 5 (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | about 8 years ago | (#16102224)

1. Descent - 6 Degrees of freedom done right and one of the first games to push beyond earth normal physics arguably paving the way for other games to move outside reality.

Games beyond earth normal physics: SpaceWar! (first computer game evar)
With six degrees of freedom (sometimes in the game, not always) Star Wars. One of the first decent 3D FPS, too.

My favourites:
  • Asteroids (i never played spacewar!, so this is the best entertainment per Mhz)
  • Xevious (high endorfine release when playing at hard levels)
  • Joust (Funny for experts, funnier for newbies esp. in 2players)
  • Hard drivin' (best driving simulation per MHz, one of the most accurate evar, get to an original arcade unit if possible, and behold)
  • Lady Bug (Brought chicks to the arcade, had interesting gameplay for a dungeon game)

Re:My Top 5 (1)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | about 8 years ago | (#16102266)

Descent is also credited as the first true 3D polygon based game.

Star Control II (1)

paxmaniac (988091) | about 8 years ago | (#16102162)

StarConII from 1994 is right up there on my all time favourite list. Excellent strategy game with a huge universe to explore, very good ship to ship battle mode, witty interaction scripts, and some of the best graphics and sound for it's time.

The authors (Toys For Bob) get extra marks for releasing the source under GPL, enabling the free version Ur Quan Masters [] . It still plays as good as ever.

If only more game makers were community minded enough to release code for obsolete games.

Re:Star Control II (1)

sir_montag (937262) | about 8 years ago | (#16102175)

The dialog and humor from that game is just top-notch. And it was incredibly unique as a game.

Day of the tentacle (1)

ecbpro (919207) | about 8 years ago | (#16102188)

Now that was the only game that REALLY made me laugh :-) I wish there were more of these funny games. Do you have any suggestions?

Amusing games (1)

sir_montag (937262) | about 8 years ago | (#16102226)

Starcontrol II did have some excellent humor, and Evil Genius is absolutely hillarious.

How about these? (1)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | about 8 years ago | (#16102201)

Edge gave these 3 games 10 of out 10 (they were before Edge's time)

Super Mario Bros

Personally I completely agree they deserve it

It's given these 5 games 10 out of 10

Super Mario 64
Gran Turismo
Ocarina of Time
Half Life 2

Personally I'm not so sure about the last 2

29 pages?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102203)

Jesus tap dancing christ.. With such a slow server to boot, there's no way I'll be reading that.

young gamers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#16102235)

Looks like they didn't know the real classics like
aztec (apple ][)
Ultima (I,II,III,IV) (apple ][)
Caste Wolfenstein (apple ][)
Choplifter (apple ][)
Rescue Raiders (apple ][)
and tons of others, you will find that almost every kind of game were first on the apple ][.

Honest replay value of those games? (1)

sir_montag (937262) | about 8 years ago | (#16102257)

Are you sure it's not just nostalgia talking? How many times have you gone back to play any of them?

Where is Total Annihilation (4, Insightful)

ThomasHoward (925022) | about 8 years ago | (#16102238)

WHy is Total Annihilation not on any of those lists, it is still the best RTS ever made, well, as far as I am concerned, anyhow.

quake (1)

mincognito (839071) | about 8 years ago | (#16102251)

Yeah, "Chaos," Commander Keen and Jedi Knight for example, beat out Quake which doesn't even make the list. If I remember correctly didn't Quake, aside from being the first true 3D FPS (unlike Doom), bring realtime tcp/ip multiplayer to the masses? Personally, my mind was pretty much blown the first time I deathmatched over the internet.

nethack (1)

kubla2000 (218039) | about 8 years ago | (#16102259)

There is a staircase up here. You see here an iridium wand.

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Everyone knows.... (1)

Jairun (982778) | about 8 years ago | (#16102264)

The best game of all time is the original Legend of Zelda hands down.
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