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Wii to Launch Nov. 19th for $250

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the right-price-right-on dept.

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PygmySurfer writes "According to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Nintendo is going to announce today that the Wii will go on sale on November 19th in North and South America, at a cost of $250. It will come bundled with Wii Sports and channels for such things as viewing photos, as well as news and weather. Finally, Wii will also make it possible to browse the web on your television. Nintendo will also announce that 25-30 games will be published this year, as well as about 30 classic games available on the virtual console, costing about $5-10."

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WTF? (1)

MrSvenSven (962916) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101798)

am I the only one who can't see this article?

Re:WTF? (1)

stevo3232 (794498) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101801)

Nope, it's broken and has been for about five minutes. That was the original online source.

Re:WTF? (3, Informative)

buswolley (591500) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101847)

The New York Times apparently broke an embargo and released the date and price early. Personally, I was still hoping for $150. Their mistake.

Re:WTF? (4, Informative)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101860)

I don't think its a mistake. Its 2-3 times the power of a gamecube, which still goes for $100. It comes with a game. ANd its still priced 150 under its nerest competitor, 350 below the PS3. 250 with a game is just about right- discount the $50 game and its the $200 unbundled that everyone expected.

Hogwash!! (1)

buswolley (591500) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101874)

And the other shoe drops. Famitsu is reporting a December 2 launch and 25,000 yen price for Japan.

That's: 25 000 Japanese yen = 212.51 U.S. dollars

Re:Hogwash!! (1)

buswolley (591500) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101884)

Source for parent is joystiq.com

Re:Hogwash!! (2, Interesting)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101892)

Like most companies, they round their prices to nice numbers. Welcome to the world of foreign exchange. Besides, who knows what the exchange rate will be in 2 months- it could be the same, it could be even cheaper, it could be far more.

Re:Hogwash!! (1)

buswolley (591500) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101938)

My point is that the 250 Dollar pricetag in North America could be hogwash, based of this exchange rate.

Re:Hogwash!! (2, Insightful)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101983)

They will have already take steps to lock in a know exchange rate. It is called hedging.

Re:WTF? (1, Funny)

TheWanderingHermit (513872) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101909)

But it's still double the cost of the computers China, in the previous story posted, is going to sell computers for.

Re:WTF? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101921)

Correction: It's priced 50$ below the nearest competitor, the XBox 360 Core. That the Core bundle sucks doesn't matter, you said nearest.

Re:WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101948)

I bought a GC with game for 60 bucks last month.

Also I've seen a gc with 4 controllers (3 extra bundled) and mario kart dd for 99 usd.

Re:WTF? (1)

!coward (168942) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101806)

Nope.. Right now, all I get is:

[quote]
The page you have requested was not found. The link is either incorrect or the page no longer exists. If you believe there is a problem, please send a message to newmedia@seattlepi.com.
[/quote]

Bad link? Or did someone antecipate the /. effect and preemptively removed the page?

Re:WTF? (1)

stevo3232 (794498) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101814)

Nope, I think it was pulled before then.

Re:WTF? (1)

!coward (168942) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101831)

Thanks.. Glad to see _someone_ is on these things. ;)

Dunno if you submitted the story, or can do it, but the link on the /.'s piece should be edited to point to the IGN story.

Re:WTF? (1)

theantix (466036) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101834)

"Bad link? Or did someone antecipate the /. effect and preemptively removed the page?"

It's not a bad link, the top item on their "most read" articles is the same as the link from slashdot with the title "Nintendo gets Wii ready for holidays". It was probably written in advance of the media embargo deadline and posted too early for whatever reason, then had to be pulled.

Re:WTF? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101998)

Nintendo gets Wii ready for holidays
Company plans to put console on market Nov. 19

By SETH SCHIESEL
THE NEW YORK TIMES

In a move that may allow Nintendo of Japan to take advantage of stumbles by its main rival, the company plans to announce today that it will release its new Wii video-game console in North and South America on Nov. 19, just as the holiday shopping season begins, and that the machine will cost $250 in the United States.

Nintendo executives said this week that the company also would announce today that more than 25 new games would be available for its video-game machine this year, a substantial portfolio from several genres that is intended to help the company broaden the appeal of its console. The company plans to ship 4 million of the Wii consoles worldwide this year.

Nintendo also will explain today a plan to expand the video-game market beyond its core of young men.

Today's announcement comes as Nintendo's main rival, Sony, has been forced to delay and scale back the introduction of its own game machine, the PlayStation 3, at least twice amid serious troubles with that company's new Blu-ray Disc technology.

Last week, Sony said that the PlayStation 3 would not be introduced in Europe until 2007 and that it would ship millions fewer units worldwide this year than it had promised. The top version of the PlayStation 3 is expected to cost around $600.

Another competitor, Microsoft, has sold more than 5 million of the Xbox 360 game console since its introduction in 2005 and hopes to sell more than 10 million by year's end.

Nintendo's Wii (pronounced we) is less technically ambitious than Sony's PS3, which is why it will cost far less and be far more available in stores this holiday season. To market the Wii, Nintendo hopes to make up in innovation and accessibility what the machine lacks in sheer silicon horsepower.

Nintendo is No. 3 in the console video game market, behind Sony and Microsoft. But while those competitors have largely focused on appealing to hard-core gamers, Nintendo is now trying to appeal to a broader audience.

"Our goal is to bring gaming back to the masses," Reggie Fils-Aime, president and chief operating officer of Nintendo of America, said in a telephone interview. "You see that in our pricing, you see that in the number of units we plan to make available this year and you see that in how we are positioning the Wii to appeal to every member of the household, including but not limited to the hard-core gamer."

The Wii's major innovation is a wireless controller that the user can tilt and point to produce action on the screen. In a sword-fighting game, for instance, the player can simply swing the controller to thrust and parry with an on-screen blade; there is no need to master the complicated combinations of buttons and triggers that make many video games so intimidating to the reflex-challenged.

Nintendo intends to announce today that every Wii will come with a game compilation called Wii Sports -- including tennis, golf, baseball and bowling -- meant to show off the machine's intuitive controls. (Most consoles, including Nintendo's GameCube, do not come with games included.)

Nintendo plans to announce that 25 to 30 top-tier games will be available for the Wii this year. The most-anticipated game comes from Nintendo itself: an installment of the long-running "Legend of Zelda" series, "Twilight Princess."

Nintendo also will deliver a driving game called "Excite Truck" this year but will likely provide a minor disappointment to gamers in saying the next version of the popular "Mario" franchise will not arrive until 2007.

Nintendo intends to charge $50 for its Wii games, $10 less than the standard price for Xbox 360 titles and the same price generally charged for GameCube games.

Top games expected to be introduced for the Wii this year from third-party publishers include a version of "Madden NFL" from Electronic Arts, the sword-fighting game "Red Steel" from Ubisoft of France, an addition to the "Sonic" action series from Sega of Japan and a "Tony Hawk" action-sports game from Activision.

While Nintendo is certainly counting on the success of top-tier games sold at retail, many gamers may be at least as excited by the Wii's Virtual Console, which will allow players to download versions of older Nintendo games from the Internet.

Nintendo plans to announce today that about 30 classic games will be available for download when the Wii is released, including ones from the "Zelda," "Mario" and "Donkey Kong" franchises. Downloadable games will cost about $5 to $10 each.

More broadly, Nintendo hopes to make the Wii a living-room centerpiece by including various media channels meant to appeal to and draw in people who do not consider themselves gamers.

There will be a photo channel that will allow users to use the Wii to display digital photographs on television.

There also will be an easy-to-use interactive news channel and weather channel.

Perhaps most intriguing, the Wii will make it possible to browse the Web on the television. Microsoft's Xbox 360 does not permit this because that could negate the need to buy a Windows PC.

"We are including all of these capabilities as part of our overall strategy to expand the gaming market," Fils-Aime said. "Broadening the market is important because it will breathe new life into this business. Otherwise, this industry is moving down a path of being more and more limited to the hard-core gamer."

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Re:GNAA CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FORASASINATION OF IR (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101920)

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Mixed feelings (1)

Dragon of the Pants (913545) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101802)

I was hoping for sooner and cheaper, but oh well. I'll try to buy one on launch.

From IGN (5, Informative)

Phaed (953768) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101803)

Since the original link seems to be dead - http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732669p1.html [ign.com]

Re:From IGN (5, Informative)

stevo3232 (794498) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101823)

Re:From IGN (2, Informative)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101840)

I was worried that this was just a tease. I'd like to see it for $250, I might even get it to keep the 360 company for that price. Not much to throw at a device that promises so much - however I've just built a PC for about 800 USD that has most of those features except the sweet control wand. You know, I do have one of those Gyro mice; anyone wanna write me a WoW addon? Mouse gestures end up being similar.

Re:From IGN (1)

Hacksworth (81145) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101989)

The original link is dead because it's inaccurate. Might want to correct that.

Wiiiiiiiii (1)

njen (859685) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101805)

Sold! Let's get physical in the livingroom...

possibilities (-1, Troll)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101810)

Finally, Wii will also make it possible to browse the web on your television.

Cool, because you know, that wasn't *possible* before.

Re:possibilities (3, Funny)

honkycat (249849) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101838)

and we all know that the web browser saved the DreamCast...

Re:possibilities (1)

VirusEqualsVeryYes (981719) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101861)

Wasn't it already announced that Opera had created a version of their browser for the Wii?

Re:possibilities (0, Flamebait)

aichpvee (631243) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101917)

Yes, and already announced that Wii was going to ship with it on the flash drive. Who wants a browser on their tv anyway? It sucked on Dreamcast and it's going to suck on Wii.

Re:possibilities (1)

Mr. Picklesworth (931427) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101906)

I think it's quite interesting that the Wii is as ready to be a handy multimedia device (for stuff other than games) as a PS3 or XB360 and Nintendo rarely mentions it. Aside from its use of regular DVDs and a few other restraints, I think the smaller and less obtrusive design as well as the controller that's already like a TV remote (no stupid extra peripherals) will make it much better for those things, too.

I will be interested to see what they do in future with the Wifi connectivity. They could write software to compete (in a way) with Apple's proposed iTV [ign.com] , and end up having it actually cost less than what Apple will be charging.

Re:possibilities (2, Insightful)

idugcoal (965425) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101934)

I think the word "finally" was used more in a "closing, final entry in a list of features" kind of way, rather than in an "at last, the feature the world has been anxiously awaiting but never before seen" kind of way.

Re:possibilities (1)

PygmySurfer (442860) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101976)

That's exactly what I meant :)

Re:possibilities (1)

shird (566377) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102031)

Yes but the OP emphasised *possible*.. as in, now its *possible* to browse the web on your TV, all thanks to the Wii.

Its nitpicking.. but probably.. "finally, the Wii will also have the ability to browse the web on your TV" is a bit clearer.

19/11 (0, Offtopic)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101818)

In 1911, November 19, the OPP fraternity was founded at Howard University (where else?)

Other than that, Cool! I hope someone I know stands in line to get one, cuz you know I'm down with OPWii.

Further Coverage (1)

PyroMosh (287149) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101819)

Joystiq [joystiq.com] has the closest I can find to live english coverage. There's also a live stream [irwebcasting.com] of the conferance, however it's just coming up 403 for me. Perhaps they're only letting .jp IPs through?

not sure i believe the article quite yet (3, Insightful)

Frag-A-Muffin (5490) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101824)

The article came out before the Japanese conference. (Which is happening as I type this) They're live blogging it over at kotaku [kotaku.com]

I'll believe it when they Iwata announces it.

Re:not sure i believe the article quite yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101910)

So you're saying the New York Times (Seattle PI is only syndicating the article), who wrote the piece, is not a trustworthy source. Way to go.

Re:not sure i believe the article quite yet (1)

earthbound kid (859282) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102032)

Famitsu is live blogging it [famitsu.com] . It's going for ¥25,000 on Dec. 2, over there. I want to doubt it, but it looks like the Seatle/NYTimes article is accurate.

I am impressed (1)

The_Abortionist (930834) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101825)

At first, I was disapointed with the price tag of $250. I was kind of hoping that Nintendo would pull a surprise with $200.

But I have to say that the bundle is rather exciting and to me very much worth it.

I am also glad the old games are not $25, although $2 might have been more appropriate, especially since some people are gonna want to collect them.

Wahoh! (2, Insightful)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101828)

Interesting, I predicted the bundled Wii Sports just earlier today. When I started thinking about it, the idea of $250 with Wii Sports didn't seem too bad, provided a controller and nunchuck (which is still remains to be seen, as I can't access the article), this may lesson Wii sales SLIGHTLY, as many people were starry-eyed with the $199 price tag (myself included), but I think it might be a better bet, in the long run, for Nintendo to release it with a game of THEIR making that centers around the controller, so that the first experience people will get with the Wiimote is a very solid one. I'm a bit dissapointed to have to wait another 2 months, but it'll give me time to finish Final Fantasy XII at least. And it's just in time for the Thanksgiving weekend. Strangely, it's positioned to be released a week after the PS3, which I think is a GREAT idea, since it will basically give them a week of free press (from Sony) and advertising, and then drown the PS3 the next week.

Re:Wahoh! (1)

Wind_Walker (83965) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101887)

Bah, you were just copying me. I remember that discussion this afternoon =P Anyways, Nintendo met expectations here. They came in with a price under every other "new" console on the market, and while the launch date is a disappointment (didn't they promise to be out before PS3?) the bundle of Wii Sports is a nice surprise. $250, eh, more expensive than I would have liked, but I understand their pricing.

To me the biggest news is that the Virtual Console will be available at launch, with 60 titles by 2007, 10 new titles per month. Plus they will have online web browsing (likely Opera, like the DS browser) and some sort of music player - details were sketchy before the Seattle PI took it down.

Seems like Nintendo is leaping into Online life with the Wii. I hope they do well. But for the love of $DEITY, TELL US IF WE GET THE NUNCHUK ATTACHMENT!!!

Re:Wahoh! (4, Interesting)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101937)

Things are starting to not add up. A Sunday release? 2 days after PS3... that seems EXTREMELY risky to me, if not foolhardy. Plus the fact that the article was taken down, this could all be pure speculation. I'm going to guess that the $250 price tag is correct, but I kinda doubt the date is, something's just fishy, the next few hours will probably tell.

Re:Wahoh! (4, Funny)

Wind_Walker (83965) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101988)

The post-PS3 launch does seem a bit odd, since they had previously stated that they would be at market before the PS3. It could be that Nintendo saw the problems Sony is having with meeting production quotas and having to slash their deliveries, and are banking on something like....

Tom Tucker: "Our top story tonight, more video game news just two days after riots destroyed many gaming storefronts from the unexpectedly horrible launch of the Playstation 3. Diane has more, Diane?"

Diane Simmons: "Thanks Tom. Wii. Sure it sounds like a penis, but what else is it? It's the new Nintendo console and it's causing quite a stir. We go live to Asian reporter Trisha Takinawa for a report"

Trisha Takinawa: "Thank you Diane. Nintendo released the strangely-named console today to rave reviews. As you can see here, waving around this long slender shaft causes action to occur on-screen. It's quite a reversal from the usual manner of things. Retailers report they have plenty of Wii to go around, and that it's something people just can't wait to get their hands on. Personally I bought two and will be using them tonight in the privacy of my bedroom. Tom?"

Glenn Quagmire: "Giggedy giggedy giggedy."

Re:Wahoh! (1)

7Prime (871679) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102029)

Now I'm totally convinced this is misinformation. They just confirmed that Wii Sports will NOT be packed into the console... bottom line, the date and price have not been announced yet. Notice that this information was NOT part of the actual translated press release, and should not be trusted. The very fact that they have messed up this means that it is unreliable.

Re:Wahoh! (1)

PygmySurfer (442860) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102001)

A Sunday release? 2 days after PS3... that seems EXTREMELY risky to me, if not foolhardy.

I dunno about that. Sony's not going to have many units, and they'll likely sell out. Nintendo will be there to comfort those poor brokenhearted folks who didn't get their PS3.

Re:Wahoh! (1)

Wind_Walker (83965) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101949)

Replying to your own post is bad form, I know, but WHOO HOOOO!!!! From Joystiq:
2:06 a.m. EST [update 10]: The press release is up. It lists the contents of the Wii box: Wii console, Wii remote (w/ strap) Nunchuck attachment, Wii AC adaptor, Wii A/V cable, Wii console stand(?), sensor bar, sensor bar stand and two AA batteries.
They neglected to include Wii Sports, but that's ok. Everything I wanted, even if the price is $50 more than I hoped. I'm pleased with Nintendo.

Re:Wahoh! (1)

modeless (978411) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102027)

Seems to me that Wii sports wouldn't really shine without a 2nd player. They ought to ship 2 controllers in the box. Then they could even make games that are meant to be played with one controller in each hand.

My thoughts (1)

LokiTD (951153) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101830)

I don't think this article was worth posting. First, it states it as fact in the headline, which is yet to be proven. Secondly, it was a Seattle PI report on a supposed NYT report. Why is this a good source? Just wait for the morning.

Re:My thoughts (1)

Ryokurin (74729) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101896)

The NYT's website will not update until 4:30am which as of this post is still is only 2am Eastern.

Anybody really interested? (-1, Troll)

HatchedEggs (1002127) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101835)

Is anybody really interested in buying a Wii? When I was younger I had Nintendos.. but these days I'm just not as drawn to their products as I am to PC and X-Box (possibly PS3). So, is anybody really excited about this product release or is Nintendo going to grab minimal market share with this console too?

Re:Anybody really interested? (1)

HiRoll3r (918730) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101846)

You must be new around these parts.

Re:Anybody really interested? (5, Funny)

AlexanderDitto (972695) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101858)

You must be new here.

Seriously, have you been on Slashdot for the past year? If not, I'll get you up to date:

Nintendo fanboys have concluded that the Wii will cure cancer. This is a definite possibility, as it's awesome levels can be measured with a Geiger Counter.
Sony has decided to shoot itself in various appendages so many times, it now not only lacks feet, but legs, arms, and a distinguishable face. PS3s will still sell out. Sony fanboys cry a little on the inside, wads of $600 dollars slipping through holes in their pockets.
Microsoft twiddles its thumbs, whistles, and eats a kitten.

Re:Anybody really interested? (1)

HatchedEggs (1002127) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101879)

Nah, I've been around a bit.

I'm glad there are so many fanboys, but I really wasn't all that impressed with it. Well, besides the WiFi and what not.

Ah well, I guess we'll have to wait and see what kind of sales it has.

Re:Anybody really interested? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101889)

Nintendo fanboys have concluded that the Wii will cure cancer.

If you just say it like that without any explanation then it sounds silly. The compelling logic is: look, the Playstation 3 is going to be really expensive and I don't need a blu-ray drive anyway and the Wii has a different controller (which may be good or may be crap) and the name isn't that bad once you get used to it, therefore the Wii will cure cancer.

Re:Anybody really interested? (2, Informative)

Korin43 (881732) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101986)

No no no.. The Wii name is still stupid. What makes it good is that: 1. It's $350 cheaper than the PS3 2. It has a Wiimote (which is fun to say and almost makes up for naming the console the Wii) 3. I'll be able to play old NES games without 5 adapters 4. It's not made by an evil company - Does anyone still like Sony? 5. Oh yeah, and it's $350 cheaper than the PS3 Note that the 360 isn't even worth factoring into this because it's already shown that it's an overhyped piece of junk.

Are you kidding? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101885)

Is anybody really interested in buying a Wii?

Yes. I'm 34, my wife is 34, WE are both looking forward to playing with this new system.

but these days I'm just not as drawn to their products as I am to PC and X-Box (possibly PS3). So, is anybody really excited about this product release or is Nintendo going to grab minimal market share with this console too?

I'm not sure what you mean by "minimal" market share exactly... If you mean percentage wise, I doubt they'll beat the Xbox or the PS3. If you mean sell enough to keep the platform viable(aka profitable), I would be shocked if they didn't achieve that. Xbox is technically nice, but come on, nobody makes games like Nintendo. You can't get a mario world, zelda, mario kart, etc... on Xbox or Sony. "little kiddish" characters, sure, but some of us aren't interested in spending hours pretending we're killing other people. Some of us have kids of our own so games that we can play in front of and with our small children are a huge plus.

Nintendo has one huge thing going for it that no previous console company that has bit the dust had and that is key character properties that are almost as universally identifiable and carry almost as much sentimental value as Mickey Mouse. As long as Nintendo doesn't start porting it's key character properties to other consoles, they should be able to keep people buying their consoles for years to come.

Re:Are you kidding? (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101943)

Oh it will definitely be profitable- the Xbox lost 4 billion. The Gamecube not only made money, it made almost as much as the PS2 despite a much smaller market share.

Re:Anybody really interested? (0, Troll)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101886)

I'm utterly uninterested in the xbox360 (games suck, xbox had all of 2 games I wanted, and I don't give money to MS). The PS3 is priced around 2x what I'm willing to pay for it. The Wii is the only one doing anything new, and the virtual console alone would sell it to me. Most of my friends who game feel the same way.

Meh... (2, Insightful)

MageWyn (6983) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101837)

I'm not sure that I want Wii Sports. Too bad I can't switch to another game or take $50 off the cost to lose it.

DragonQuest: Swords anyone?

Re:Meh... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101864)

The cost to nintendo in bundling the game is nowhere near $50, maybe $5 at the very most (99.9% development time). The game is bundled to introduce you to the controller interface, not to be $50 worth of entertainment.

Good news for normal humans (3, Insightful)

svunt (916464) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101839)

Personally, I start to lose count after a squillion frames a second, I'm sure my eyeballs are only getting 800x600 resolution these days, and I'm just totally over the idea of paying $500+ for a machine, and $50+ for games, when they're extremely high-res, high-speed, and SHIT. The Wii gives me hope that there's something out there for people who like gameplay, not graphics, and have better things to spend the big bucks on than a friggin' procrastinaion console. Nice one, Nintendo.

Even I can afford that! (1)

internetstruck (1002239) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101853)

Even after making payments on my H3 SUV, new power efficient computer, and bikini wax, I'll still have enough left over for a Wii and some vintage games. My butt is tingling with anticipation of sitting in a chair for hours as my thumbs go numb.

$250??? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101854)

So I am at the store at Christmas shopping for my kids presents. I have a few options:

- A $600 Sony PS3 that doesnt include a game. So I need to spend $600 plus $60 for another controller + $60-$100 for a game. Total price $780-$820 + tax.
- A $500 Microsoft 360 that also doesnt include a game. So I need to spend $500 plus $60 for another controller + $50-$60 for a game. Total price $610-$620 + tax.
- A $250 Nintendo Wii that DOES include a game. So I need to spend $250 plus $60 for another controller + $50 for a game. Total price $360 + tax.

Damn, which one SHALL I choose?

Re:$250??? (2, Informative)

Pacifist Brawler (987348) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101954)

I don't know where you're getting $60 for a controller for any of these (360 is $40 or $50, we haven't seen a per controller price-point for the Wii or PS3 that I know of). Also, 360 Premium at list price is $400. Besides, if Wii comes with a game why do you then need to buy a game???

Re:$250??? (1)

puddpunk (629383) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101975)

I choose option D:

(D) Nobody gives a shit about you or your kids, you tightass.

Re:$250??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16102039)

"- A $500 Microsoft 360 that also doesnt include a game. So I need to spend $500 plus $60 for another controller + $50-$60 for a game. Total price $610-$620 + tax."

Swing and a miss [gamestop.com]
I think most people will spend an extra $50 for a truely next generation machine.

Re:$250??? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102050)

The 360 Premium costs 400, not 500. That was the low-end PS3.

Awwww :( (3, Insightful)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101868)

C'mon! Bundle Zelda! You'll sell fifteen billion of them.

Re:Awwww :( (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101903)

No kidding. But I'm still going to save for one.

Re:Awwww :( (2, Interesting)

Wind_Walker (83965) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101924)

They'll sell fifteen billion Zelda games even if they don't bundle it. So why would they include it as a pack-in when they could make higher margins selling it stand-alone?

Re:Awwww :( (3, Funny)

Pacifist Brawler (987348) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101981)

Roughtly 2.5 Wiis/person. I don't know that everyone is that hardcore.

Call me wierd... (1)

TheGreatHegemon (956058) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101870)

But somehow, I can actually see the Wii being released when Nintendo says it will. Of all the next gen consoles, I think the Wii is really being executed the best this time around. (Of course, final judgement cannot be rendered until AFTER all three are out)

Article pulled (3, Informative)

12ahead (586157) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101872)

The Article has been pulled. Whether that adds to the credibility of the info or not should all be clear later today when the Japan press conference [gwn.com] is over or after the press conference in the US tomorrow.

Letdown. (3, Funny)

Spazntwich (208070) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101873)

I'll admit, I bought into the hype.

I let all of the pre-coverage get me to expect either a release date earlier than 1 month before Christmas, or a price closer to $200.

$250 and late November is kind of a letdown.

The most irritating fact? $5-$10 virtual console games. What with the price of ram back in the day, it sounds like they'll be making around a dollar for dollar profit margin that they were in the 90s. If you convert it to % profit margins and consider the fact that bandwidth costs are minimal, they're making a profit margin in the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of percents.

This single set of facts has turned me from eager to get a Wii into more of a wait and see approach.

Oh well.

Re:Letdown. (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101955)

Don't forget that its 250 with a game. That more than makes up the $50 difference to me.

Re:Letdown. (1)

Logic and Reason (952833) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101978)

Why do you care how much profit they make? What matters is whether the games are worth that price to you. And if high marginal profits bother you, guess what? Plastic CDs in cardboard boxes don't cost a whole lot to manufacture, either.

Re:Letdown. (1)

webheaded (997188) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101985)

I mostly agree with you. While its not really going to affect my decision to get one, I'm really very irritated that they lied to us about the price and release date. I was really really looking forward to it launching before the PS3 and costing 200 bucks, but here we are. Oh well. :-/

Re:Letdown. (2, Informative)

PoderOmega (677170) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102048)

Can you post a link where Nintendo ever lied about the price? I think you have mistaken industry guestimates with offical Nintendo statements.

from Joystiq (4, Informative)

drwiii (434) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101891)

1:55 p.m. [update 8]: And the other shoe drops. Famitsu is reporting a December 2 launch and 25,000 yen price for Japan. $215 USD

Sweet spot (3, Insightful)

trellick (67244) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101897)

Have to say, that I think Nintendo have got the pricing just spot on! No only for the console itself, but for the classic games ($5 -> $10), a very very clever strategic move.

No only that, but the price of the new games at ~$10 less than the X360 - gives a clear indication that Nintendo see the X360 as their main competition. Maybe they think that Sony have dropped the ball with their pricing and PR machines!?

No, I'm not a fan boy of any console (in fact I'm a dedicated PC gamer) - but it seems that Nintendo have employed some very smart people for this entire project, considering no-one was really thinking them as a major console player (again) and then last years' E3 and, suddenly, they are ahead of everyone else in terms of buzz. Clever stuff.

Re:Sweet spot (2, Insightful)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101984)

$10 for kid icarus? You've got to be shitting me.

Even for the rare ones, you can most likely pick up NES carts on ebay or at a funcoland-like store for a fraction of that price. Without the piss-poor emulation deficiencies that have plagues previous nintendo rereleases (remember the game boy color Nes Series line?)

I've bought these games once, and played them to death. I've downloaded them again when nesticle came out, and played them to death. Who's the target market here? The nostalgia crowd is savvy enough to pirate old nes games, and the younger crowd is likely to be displeased with the different style of gameplay.

Re:Sweet spot (1)

Wind_Walker (83965) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102016)

NES games: 500 yen (approx. $3.50 USD)
SNES games: 800 yen (approx $7 USD)
N64 games: 1000 yen (approx $8.50 USD)

Those prices are confirmed for Japan, no word yet on US prices (wait until about 10am for that). Personally, at those prices I'll be buying the cream of the crop (FF6, SMB3, etc) but not the lesser-known titles they might put up.

Um, wrong. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101899)

It's 25,000 yen. The US price is unstated. VC games are 500, 800 and 1000 yen for NES, SNES and N64 respectively. This article was a guess and was deleted/retracted.

Wii or calculus (1)

Broken scope (973885) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101900)

It comes out the night before my 2nd big test........ fuck.... fuck fuck fuck. On a lighter not, i really hope they will have a VGA/DVI adapter as i cannont afford a TV to play it on because i am a poor poor college student.

Re:Wii or calculus (1)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101922)

How about you don't open the fucking thing till after your test?

Re:Wii or calculus (1)

nukem996 (624036) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102012)

Not sure what kind of computer you have but many video cards now have video input. You could even get a cheap TV card and hook it up to your computer.

Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101904)

Now, I'm seeing 25,000 yen and a December 2nd launch date
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/14/nintendo-japan-c onference-not-so-liveblogging/ [joystiq.com]

Re:Hmm (1)

Wind_Walker (83965) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101914)

Hi, that's Japan. The PI article (which has since been pulled) was about the North and South American launch.

Jumping the gun. (2, Insightful)

Oscar_Wilde (170568) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101957)

Considering that the linked article is gone and that the Japanese launch date is apparently the 2nd of December, I think this whole "Nov 19th, US$250" thing might be jumping the gun slightly.

article pulled, inaccurate? (4, Interesting)

Karma Sucks (127136) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101972)

Let's play "spot the pattern."

SNES launch price: 25000 Yen / 200 USD.
N64 launch price: 25000 Yen / 200 USD.
Gamecube launch price: 25000 yen / 200 USD.
Wii launch price: 25000 yen / ??? USD.

Hrm.

Re:article pulled, inaccurate? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16101999)

I know I know!

Console War? ~Yawn~ (1)

FalleStar (847778) | more than 7 years ago | (#16101977)

About a year ago I couldn't wait to get my hands on my Wii ( : D ) but now that the "Next-Gen" is here I really don't care. None of the systems in this generation have really shown me anything to justify a purchase. I will be pulling for Nintendo though, it seems that at least they're trying to innovate rather than just pump out an extra 10,000,000,000,000 polygons like the others. I'll happily stick to my PC and play games of similar quality without dropping $500 on a new system. Besides, good luck finding a halfway decent MMORPG on a console.

Pricing Info (1)

DeanCubed (814869) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102008)

It's a little hard to access all the info so far, so here it is. In US$: Wii-Mote: $35 Nunchuck: $20 Virtual Console Controller: $20 Wii Sports on its own: $40 Most Wii Games: $50 In Japan, the Wii comes out on Dec. 2, for 25000 Yen (212 $US) and comes with a single Wiimote. In North America, the Wii comes out on Nov. 18, for $250 US ($299 CDN) and comes with two Wiimotes, and Wii Sports (a compilation of golf, baseball, tennis, bowling, and boxin)

Re:Pricing Info (1)

buswolley (591500) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102030)

Ahh that explains the extra price in America.. I don't care about the wii without two wii-motes.

New date is because of the sony delay (1)

blanks (108019) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102018)

FTA it says the new ship date is because Sony has again pushed off their shipping date because of bluray problems.  Should be really good for Nintendo.  Not sure if SOny will make it for xmas time, but if they dont they will lose alot.

Seems false to me (1)

busydoingnothing (794514) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102028)

I'm watching the semi-live blog at Joystiq.com [joystiq.com] , and it seems that what has been announced in Japan negates what this article states. They are saying a launch date of December 2nd, price of 25,000 yen (includes tax), and no Wii Sports pack-in. Is this the same Nintendo event that 1UP.com [1up.com] was talking about a few weeks ago?

Re:Seems false to me (1)

Wind_Walker (83965) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102043)

The article this was referencing was specifically talking about the North American release of the console. Joystiq is talking about the Japanese launch.

But if you want to wait for confirmation, Reggie will be delivering his own press conference at 9am this morning. That should help to clear up any confusion.

A little Family Guy for ya. (4, Funny)

Wind_Walker (83965) | more than 7 years ago | (#16102036)

The post-PS3 launch does seem a bit odd, since they had previously stated that they would be at market before the PS3. It could be that Nintendo saw the problems Sony is having with meeting production quotas and having to slash their deliveries, and are banking on something like....

Tom Tucker: "Our top story tonight, more video game news just two days after riots destroyed many gaming storefronts from the unexpectedly horrible launch of the Playstation 3. Diane has more, Diane?"

Diane Simmons: "Thanks Tom. Wii. Sure it sounds like a penis, but what else is it? It's the new Nintendo console and it's causing quite a stir. We now go live to Asian reporter Trisha Takinawa for a report, Trisha?"

Trisha Takinawa: "Thank you Diane. Nintendo released the strangely-named console today to rave reviews. As you can see here, waving around this long slender shaft causes action to occur on-screen. It's quite a reversal from the usual manner of things. Retailers report they have plenty of Wii to go around, and that it's something people just can't wait to get their hands on. Personally I bought two and will be using them tonight in the privacy of my bedroom. Tom?"

Glenn Quagmire: "Giggedy giggedy giggedy."
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