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Giant 'Leap' for Robotics

CowboyNeal posted more than 7 years ago | from the omni-consumer-products dept.

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legoburner writes "An AFP article is reporting that Toyota has developed a robot leg that can jump like a human's, an evolution from today's stiff-jointed machines. The leg is a strange-looking standalone device and Toyota claims it will enable robots to jump about, run faster and handle unpaved roads more smoothly."

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Article not found (1)

dryekindrew (1002653) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111604)

It just says article not found. The picture works though.

Re:Article not found (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111655)

it hasnt got a leg to stand on - oh..

Re:Article not found (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111658)

You just click the link, click "Select prior issue", set the date to 14-09-2006, click "Go", go back to the "Article not found" page and refresh.

Re:Article not found (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16112894)

then accelerate to 85 mph and voilà

Re:Article not found (0, Offtopic)

Sillygates (967271) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111858)

new? Honda already has a waterproof version [jarvso-cykelmotor.se] !

Re:Article not found (1)

BillGod (639198) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112491)

Oh My GOD I just pee's myself

Re:Article not found (4, Informative)

legoburner (702695) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111881)

The link worked when I submitted it over 36 hours ago. Ah well, slow editors, here is an alternate link to the same AFP syndicated story: physorg [physorg.com] and also Yahoo [yahoo.com] .

Re:Article not found (1)

70Bang (805280) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111944)


I think it's the original redirect. If you go here [google.com] , click "Giant Leap for Robotics", it'll take you to the dead link.

So you can take the directions below a few messages.

I wanted to... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111605)

I wanted to write an interesting or informative response to this, but "article not found" only leaves me the option of writing
FIRST POST!

If you couple it with this one... (5, Funny)

rtyall (960518) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111607)

Bionic Arm [slashdot.org] + Bionic Leg [slashdot.org] = 1 step closer to becoming 6 Million Dollar Man [imdb.com]

Re:If you couple it with this one... (4, Funny)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111615)

I bet they'll cost an arm and a leg though.

Re:If you couple it with this one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111626)

Yeah.. finding one for under a million would be quite a feat.

Re:If you couple it with this one... (1)

James McGuigan (852772) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111814)

Though if it was only half that price, it would be a bargin. New legs for old.

Re:If you couple it with this one... (3, Interesting)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111696)

Even as a child i wondered just HOW that robotic arm could lift up a car... if its connected to a rather normal shoulder....

Re:If you couple it with this one... (4, Funny)

Walt Dismal (534799) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111837)

Who needs an arm? Hello, World Cup, thank you Mr. Roboto! Soccer will never be the same again.

However, things will not be complete until someone develops a French head-butting robot.

Re:If you couple it with this one... (2, Funny)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112115)

surely the Zidane-bot would put the fear of god in ALL of us. We can only hope that doesn't come to pass.

Re:If you couple it with this one... (3, Funny)

pcgabe (712924) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112223)

Who needs an arm? Hello, World Cup

Argentina [youtube.com] has expressly asked for the arm...

You have to admit.. (1)

Plutonite (999141) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112238)

He was good. I mean, he was really really good:

He didn't punch that Italian bastard in the face, he didn't kick him or even head-butt him in the head - he went for the most elegant solution possible under those circumstances and head-butted him in the chest. He managed to get him on the ground without bloodshed.

Zidane is pure-100%-made in France genius, and you can teach a robot all sorts of hopping tricks, but it would be impossible to get them to behave in such ingenius ways should someone cuss their mother.

ahh yes (2, Funny)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111613)

we are but one step closer to the fearsome reign of Robot Nixon. [cafepress.com]

yeah but, (5, Funny)

DohnJoe (900898) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111645)

does it run linux?

*ducks*

Re:yeah but, (5, Funny)

OnesAndNoughts (872266) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111783)

I hop so...

Re:yeah but, (0, Troll)

starsky51 (959750) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111845)

lame

Re:yeah but, (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16112067)

Don't jump to conclusions!

Re:yeah but, (5, Funny)

HugePedlar (900427) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112104)

It's times like this that I wish there was a "-1 Lame" moderation option.

Get it? Lame? Oh, come on.

Re:yeah but, (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112013)

"does it run linux?"

No, but it still a "kick arse" machine.

I for one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111649)

welcome our ungainly one legged jumping robot overlords

Conjecture (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111650)

Considering the required latency requirements, this thing doesn't run Linux.

Re:Conjecture (4, Insightful)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111819)

Yeah, you would never use linux [realtimeli...dation.org] . Instead, you would use a hard real time OS [fsmlabs.com] that are used heavily in jets or rockets [windriver.com] .

Re:Conjecture (3, Informative)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111832)

It's probably a good idea to emphasize that RTLinux ISN'T Linux. It is a minimal real-time core upon which the Linux kernel runs. The core can pre-empt the Linux kernel to handle real-time requests.

Re:Conjecture (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112034)

"required latency requirements"

Well done BAG, extra redundancy points for the redundant bit.

!run... hop (1)

kj_in_ottawa (838840) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113096)

I think at best it could "hop quickly" linux... now a pair of robotic legs hooked up through a robotic crotch could run linux .-.-. -.- .--- ...-.-

Monty Python foot? (1)

iqeaten (961308) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111662)

Uncanny -- that looks exactly like the Slashdot 'funny' icon.

Re:Monty Python foot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16113070)

Screw that, Chester - I cain't wait 'till I can hang that thang off the back of my bass boat...

One small Jump (4, Funny)

EqualSlash (690076) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111670)

One Small Jump for a Robo; One Giant Leap for Robokind

Re:One small Jump (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16112550)

Yes... Yes, that was indeed the joke.

karma whoring here (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111671)

TFA on a link that does work:

http://www.physorg.com/news77352568.html [physorg.com] (google toyota robot leg)

  The one-meter (3.3-foot) leg has a joint on its toe letting it jump as high as four centimeters (1.6 inches) by bending and stretching its toe and another knee-like joint, Japan's top automaker said Wednesday.

"This is a basic technology that can be applied to a two-legged robot in future," said a Toyota Motor Corp. spokeswoman.

"It was a difficult step for robots," she said. "But it was made possible after making a number of prototypes."

Besides the joy of jumping about, robots will also be able to run faster and to handle unpaved roads more smoothly, the company said.

Toyota, the world's number two automaker which is expected soon to surpass General Motors, has increasingly taken on robot development.

Toyota humanoids welcomed visitors to the company's pavillion at the 2005 World Expo in Japan, jamming in a brass ensemble and performing hip-hop routines.

Run faster? (3, Interesting)

odourpreventer (898853) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111675)

Is there yet any robot that can actually walk? By walking, I mean walk like a human, where each step is slight fall forward, and not walk like current robots, where balance is kept at all times.

If such a robot exists, can someone please post a link?

Re:Run faster? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111750)

I hate to send a slashdotting to such a nice group of guys, but the Big Dog made by Boston Dynamics might be what you are looking for.
http://www.bdi.com/content/sec.php?section=BigDog [bdi.com]

While it doesn't have 2 legged operation it does operate in the "falling forward" way of walking. Check out that video where the guy gives it a swift kick to the side and it just sways and regains it's balance. Looks uncannily lifelike.

Re:Run faster? (1)

Halo1 (136547) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112165)

Strange that in spite of how lifelike it is, they switched around the bending curve of the of the front and hind legs compared to real animals.

Re:Run faster? (1)

gwjenkins (968023) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112183)

If anyone is interested in looking at more conventional 2 and 3 legged passive dynamic walkers here's a nice article on a tinkertoy version [cornell.edu] and a site with lots of video [umich.edu] of one that needs a mechanic's workshop rather than a toybox.

A couple of years back when I was looking around at this sort of thing I found video of a great little robot with a couple of legs that spun them rather than swinging them... it was amazingly fast. But I can't find the link again :(

Re:Run faster? (1)

Gleng (537516) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112302)

That's absolutely amazing. I think I have a new contender for Best Video Ever.

That little bastard looks so happy trotting around like that!

No link (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111751)

Here's the thing. If you were really so interested in the topic, you would already know that not only does Honda's ASIMO walk like a human, but that it can also run like a human. You would have already seen the videos. This type of thing would be old hat.

But since you asked for a link to information about a very old technology, it shows that you don't have any interest in this topic at all. Your post may be modded up, but it contains nothing worth reading. No link for you.

Re:No link (2, Informative)

odourpreventer (898853) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111773)

I have seen the Honda ASIMO videos. I have actually seen the robot LIVE on Robocup in Japan. Our humanoid booth was next to the stage where all humanoids performed.

I have NEVER seen that robot walk like a human. I have NEVER seen that robot do anything that resembles running.

Re:No link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111824)

T w a t.

Re:Run faster? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111806)

Do you know Asimo from Honda?

http://asimo.honda.com/index.asp?bhcp=1 [honda.com]

Re:Run faster? (2, Informative)

ghyd (981064) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111884)

In the four legged category there is the robot mule wich apparently can handle unbalance issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3W8dm5JxFc [youtube.com]

Re:Run faster? (1)

tsjaikdus (940791) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112023)

spring flamingo developed at MIT is 'sort of' such a robot. However, it is on a stick to keep it from falling sideways

Re:Run faster? (2, Informative)

fireboy1919 (257783) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112242)

What you're talking about is called "dynamic stability."

Most two legged robots are statically stable.

However, most one legged robots are *not* - they're dynamically stable.
So essentially, this is a solution to that problem.

It's not the first one, though. There are tons of pogostick-like one-legged robots.

I'm curious to see what thing Toyota did that makes it worth noting, as the article doesn't mention anything special.

Re:Run faster? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16112289)

What's worthing noting about this bot is the toe... as it says in TFA. :-)

Re:Run faster? (1)

fireboy1919 (257783) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113251)

Not the first one with a toe, either. :/

Re:Run faster? (2, Informative)

SnowZero (92219) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113336)

I depends on what you really mean by balance. FYI QRIO and ASIMO have already demonstrated running capability (though just barely). You are specifically talking about walking though, but obviously a running robot is falling, and thus demonstrating some of the capability that you'd like to see. Their fastest walks are probably still balanced in the ZMP-always-inside-foot sense, although the exact methods are closely gaurded secrets by their respective companies. A robot that maintains the ZMP inside its footprint is still falling in the sense that it cannot simply halt at a given point in its walk cycle without falling over; they are not staticly stable.

Hot (2, Funny)

brian0918 (638904) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111684)

Check out the robo-child-bearing thighs on that sexbot!

robocop + stormtrooper (1)

nihaopaul (782885) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111739)

i'm sorry thats just sick, that leg reminds me of that machine in robocop and a starwars stormtrooper!

Re:Hot (1)

GooberToo (74388) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113233)

Hopefully someone will mod you funny. I actually heard Bender's voice in my head the first time I read that post. And no, I normally don't hear voices in my head. ;)

Maybe it's just me... (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111694)

...but that thing looks like it goes, "boing! boing! boing!" in operation. :)

Read it here (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111704)

You can read the article here [zaman.com] , here [aljazeera.net] or here [google.com] .

Re:Read it here (2, Insightful)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111844)

Who'd think... A link to Al Jazeera in a tech article on Slashdot, and on topic, not a troll...

Re:Read it here (1)

14CharUsername (972311) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112759)

Al Jazeera is actually a more reliable news source than CNN now. Sad but true.

Giant Leap for Robot Artificial Intelligence (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111711)

Robot AI Mind.Forth [sourceforge.net] goes beyond mere jumping and gives a robot the smarts for thinking like a human being.

Artificial life for robots [sourceforge.net] is the joint development of a sound mind in a sound body for jump-for-Joy robots.

The Joint Stewardship of Earth [wikocracy.com] lets robots jump into a position of equality with human beings in running the planet Earth.

Technological Singularity by 2012 [blogcharm.com] will be the Great Leap Forward in the co-evolution of intelligent humans and superintelligent robots.

JavaScript for AI [sourceforge.net] describes how even a simple language like JavaScript can leap into action with tutorial artificial intelligence for amateur robot-makers.

Turing Store Books [memebot.com] are all about the Great Leap to artificially intelligent robots.

JavaScript Mind.html [sourceforge.net] is the tutorial version of the Robot AI Mind.Forth.

Re:Giant Leap for Robot Artificial Intelligence (3, Insightful)

Dogsbody_D (579981) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111885)

Don't mod him up, he's a mentalist. AI4U, Mentifex, Arthur T. Murray. He's a known crackpot who has been bugging genuine AI researchers for years. Oh, but, dear Slashdot reader, you always support the underdog you say, big business and academia always ignore the maverick genius. Alright then, go on and waste your time reading the links and come back to us with a report...

Standalone leg (1, Funny)

CxDoo (918501) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111712)

Anyone else found this bit funny?

Where's the... (1)

WgT2 (591074) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111718)

Where's the mount to put it on my boat?

Re:Where's the... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111878)

hi , i am masterfreek64 from sf.net and I can tell you how you can get a real walking robot:
Buy the mindstorms NXT thing if you change the Alpha Rex a bit it falls forward . Only disadvantage , you can only have one move per leg (stretzch / retract) . But he look a bit like a human (Not the one from instructions)

Marvin. (1)

n1hilist (997601) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111752)

With this, Marvin would have been able to jump around in circles, instead!

Intelligent design (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111755)

"evolution from today's stiff-jointed machines"

No evolution here m8, intelligent design. Believe in science it will save you!!!

Looks like the start of a chicken leg mech to me. (0)

bunbuntheminilop (935594) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111786)

I always wondered how hard it would be to build me a Mad Dog. Very hard, it would seem.

giant leap backwards for man'kind' (-1, Troll)

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Study Anatomy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111809)

These Robot Engineers need to get the help of some anatomists when designing their robots if they want them to be like humans or animals. If they want to be like robots, then carry on (bt why not dispense with the two/four legs and go for wheels/tracks/hover cushion). A human leg, for instance is not straight.. From a point of origin in the hip, it moves medially as it decend to the knee and then progresses on to the ankle, so there should be an angle at the knee. The evolutionary purpose of that angle, is so that the centre of gravity remains over the midline during the phase where all the weight is supported by one leg and the other leg is being swung forward. Otherwise you end up with a robot that walks like Marvin from the Forbidden Planet, and an inefficient gait.

Re:Study Anatomy (0, Flamebait)

Dogsbody_D (579981) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111893)

OMG!!! Amazing!!! Another anonymous slashdotter has seen through all the hard work of 30 years of real reseachers and has turned up to tell us all what we are doing wrong. Oh thank you, now we can all retire. Cunt.

Re:Study Anatomy (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111992)

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OMG!!! A registered slashdot user makes a fool of himself!!!!!! faggot

Re:Study Anatomy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16113144)

Atleast that cunt took the time to check "Post Anonymously". Perhaps he could teach you a think or two after all.

obligatory (4, Funny)

owlnation (858981) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111856)

I for one welcome our new bouncy overlords.

I for one .. (1)

ms1234 (211056) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111897)

.. welcome our jumping robotic overlords. It had to be said.

co3k (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111903)

before playing to name o8 the2 jar of

At last... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16111928)

Robots capable of kicking ass!

A great step (hop) forward for robot comedians (1)

rosbif (71236) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111966)

At last robots can do the Pete'n'Dud unidexter sketch - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Leg_Too_Few [wikipedia.org]

Should come with an Aibo... (4, Funny)

QuantumFTL (197300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16111977)

At last, now there is something an Aibo can properly hump. Here boy!

Dufflepods (1)

Analogy Man (601298) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112030)

Put on an ugly gnome face and a great big boot and you've got yourself a Dufflepod from C.S. Lewis "Voyage of the Dawn Treader".

But what is the sound of one leg kicking? (1)

jpellino (202698) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112075)

And then overbalancing and falling to the ground in a heap.

Isn't the top part supposed to be shiny metal?

Re:But what is the sound of one leg kicking? (1)

mcmonkey (96054) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112716)

Isn't the top part supposed to be shiny metal?

I believe the only requirement is the, um, posterior be shiny metal.

I guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16112093)

this story doesn't have a leg to stand on.

MIT COG? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16112184)

Long ago the MIT COG robot was the state of the art humanoid robot. Since they do not update the MIT COG pages anymore, I'm not able to see if they make any progress. Does anybody know the state of the art humanoid project around?

Dog leg (1)

Kaeles (971982) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112206)

I think its a bit ironic that it really looks like a dog or horse leg more than a humans. Maybe we should just study how animals walk, they seem more adapted to it than us anyways.

Just need a lamp shade, and... (1)

volpe (58112) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112236)

It's a major award!!! [redriderleglamps.com]

One legged man (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16112294)

..in the ass kicking contest finally gets relief!

most likely to win.. (1)

drewsup (990717) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112333)

First place winner in a robotic one legged ass kicking contest!

Cross between... (1)

amightywind (691887) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112377)

Looks like they took one of Asimo's legs and stuck it on one of their outboard motors. I suppose you could use this thing to free your boat if it runs a ground.

Wow, huge thigh muscle! (2, Funny)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112406)

Toyota must be working on a robot that will really kick some Asimo!

Oh Noes! (1)

DrKyle (818035) | more than 7 years ago | (#16112417)

Who will save us from these robots once the evil Dr Wily takes control?
Megaman!
(seriously, anyone else think it looks like this one? [freexbresse.free.fr]

As much use as... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16112453)

...a one legged man in an arse kicking contest.

Competition (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16112603)

Looks like they got a leg up on the competition

Baby got back (1)

wonkavader (605434) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113128)

Ok, she's got a nice leg there, but look at that BEEHIND! Damn! Baby!

Call me and 80's Kid.... (1)

Joseph Hayes (982018) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113130)

... But with all the great anime and cartoons from Japan featuring giant robots, I think they might make it a reality some day. How freakin' awesome would it be to come to work some day and see in the headlines that Japan built a 50' tall robot for their national defense? A Voltron force maybe? Screw the idea of getting on the horn with G.W. and the U.N. when North Korea test fires missiles in your general direction, just land a Gundam on the lawn of their capital building to get your message across! The Pilot, Prince Hisahito greets them with: "How are you Gentlemen" "All Your Base are Belong to Us!"

One fatal flaw (1)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113177)

In an ass kicking contest it wouldn't stand a chance.

Re:One fatal flaw (1)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113305)

it would win, it has no ass

anyone noticed? (1)

TheCreeep (794716) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113345)

Did you see the big box thingy on top of the robot leg? If you put two of those legs together you'll have a huge robot butt on your hands.

Robot leg says (1)

Schwarzchild (225794) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113379)

"I fight for Xev!"

Good Numbers for Toyota (1)

Flwyd (607088) | more than 7 years ago | (#16113564)

So now not only can I hope for a high number of miles per gallon out of a new Prius, I can also hope for lots of vertical feet per gallon.
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