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MySpace Music Player Hacked

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the we-don't-need-no-steenkin'-players dept.

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Roy van Rijn writes to tell us about a little program called MySpace MP3 Gopher, with which you can download any song from MySpace as an MP3 even if it is marked to disable downloading. MySpace MP3 Gopher is a Windows program requiring no installation, and for those not on a Windows box the author offers an online version that anyone can run. It is hosted on his home computer so it is bound to get slashdotted rather quickly. All you need to grab a MySpace song is its "friendID," which is in every URL as a parameter. Tech-recipes has step-by-step instructions.

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Uhm. Slashdotted? (1)

winphreak (915766) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121436)

"It is hosted on his home computer so it is bound to get slashdotted rather quickly."
Ok, who on slashdot uses myspace? Ok, now how many use it for music? Alright. Lemme recount.
I sense a lot (more) myspace bashing. Otherwise, it's a cool program.

Re:Uhm. Slashdotted? (5, Funny)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121501)

Ok, who on slashdot uses myspace?

I bet you a lot of Slashdot does. As soon as you see the first chick with nice hooters who advertizes her myspace page, and you have to be a member to see the good pics.

Not that I actually did that... I just heard about a friend... errr .... guy I used to know who did that once.

Re:Uhm. Slashdotted? (1)

darkmeridian (119044) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121830)

It seems as though the music has stopped. According to the homepage, the program has stopped working today.

"Current Status: NOT WORKING - as of 9/16/2006 the Gopher stopped working. I am working to fix it. Try back later."

Re:Uhm. Slashdotted? (1)

Kingrames (858416) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122460)

You don't quite understand the slashdot effect.

If the article was about the fertilization process of the Eastern Canadian Brown Pine Tree, and it had a link to some random dude's web page, it would get slashdotted.

You act like people have something better to do at work. There's no threshold here, the slashdot effect applies to everything.

Sweet, low quality MP3s! (1)

palumbor (854887) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121438)

But in all seriousness, this is going to bring the "web-rip" scene of trash on P2P networks to a whole new level.

Lol. Good point... (3, Interesting)

msimm (580077) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121729)

I actually work with a lot of MySpace artists with my site (I have a MS account, but I mean popexperiment). Ya, ripping off 96Kbps @ 22050Khz will really help you satisfy that need. Nothing like kicking back and taking in the hiss.

The only thing I really don't like about this is a lot of musicians and labels have come to depend on MS (say what you like, I work in a web-services company, I know Coldfusion and MySpaces scales poorly) and they might start pulling content. MS is actually the best resource out there right now for finding new work (since mp3.com really, which is shit now). Thats a simple fact. And artists can be very, very sketchy about 'lossing control' of their content. Another fact I have to contend with regularly (I run an internet radio channel/show on the previously mentioned site).

Lets hope they plug the hole quickly before knees start to jerk.

More interesting is the pending MySpace [mtv.com] downloads. Assuming they don't build it out themselves (which the article seems to suggest isn't the case) this could be great for a lot of independant/international artists and even better for the listeners. Because MS encoded files are great for a quick taste but garbage to really listen to.

Anyway, as usual, we'll see how the chips fall. The net is pretty orgainic.

Re:Lol. Good point... (1)

jZnat (793348) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121890)

Hey, it's free publicity as far as I can see. Most bands on MySpace need all the publicity they can get, and MySpace is one of the best places in which to do so. Now for those who want to get the decent quality music, the bands can offer them through emusic, magnatunes, or some other good, DRM-free music store.

Absolutely... (2, Interesting)

msimm (580077) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122889)

I think its a poorly designed service (part of why its so popular actually, lots of bugs (css expliots, less sanitising) that let users take more control, for better and worse.

The catch with those great digital download sites for the small artists is you need a LABEL. They don't deal with artists directly. Which was great news for me, I was preparing to launch a 'virtual' label for artists who needed help with that part. But thats on hold now with MySpace's plan. I'll see how it works out.

Anyway, I agree about the great DRM free sites and believe me, I use everyone of them (you left off indie911, check my resources page for some more, foreign, etc). Magnatune I have mixed feeling about because while its a noble effort I don't think it gets enough exposure to actually help. While sites like the previously mentioned 911 (I promise, I have no affiliation) offer roughly %70 per track, which to me would sound a little more tempting (that and they are actively trying to gain more attention, we'll see how far they get).

Anyway, the downloads aren't quite the windfall to a lot of the artists who post their work there. Even if their reasoning isn't perfect (its their music, so its their call) a lot of artists really don't want their music freely available and for a variety of reasons. It'll probably get fixed quickly then they can play cat-n-mouse, who knows. :)

Works (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121441)

Tested and working :)

I blame Universal Music (3, Interesting)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121452)

I have no doubt this project was funded, in whole or in part, by Universal Music group to support their BS crusade against MySpace and YouTube.

Re:I blame Universal Music (1, Funny)

RiskyChris (999242) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121486)

I have no doubt this project was funded, in whole or in part, by Universal Music group to support their BS crusade against MySpace
Any crusade against MySpace is a worthy cause, in my oh-so-pretentious opinion.

It's so obvious (2, Interesting)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121527)

Any crusade against MySpace is a worthy cause, in my oh-so-pretentious opinion.

I dislike Myspace as much as the next guy, but Universal is just playing dirty [mercurynews.com]. I mean, just days after they threaten to file suit against Youtube and Myspace, a piracy tool written to exploit myspace just happens to appear on the internet.

give me a break. It's pretty clear that a) MySpace and Universal have been in contract negotiations, b) those negotiations have broken down over fee structure, and c) Universal is doing its hardest to set precedent so that if MySpace doesn't come over to their side of the table, they can sue MySpace for as much money as possible.

Re:It's so obvious (5, Insightful)

repruhsent (672799) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121542)

You've been able to do something similar to this for months. Thinking Universal wrote this on purpose to force MySpace into doing what they want isn't only naive, it's an indication that your tin foil hat is on far too tight.

Re:It's so obvious (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121663)

No kidding. Someone's spent way too much time at Area 51 lately.

Re:It's so obvious (2, Insightful)

joe 155 (937621) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121684)

I doubt anyone would relish suing myspace, this isn't a small organisation which will cave with fear of legal threats, my space has a multi-billion dollar backing through News International, not to mention all the bad publicity that culd be drummed up in a heart beat if myspace loses. I can only speak from what I've read (in private eye) about the Sun and the Times (England), it does seem that no murdoch paper can even print bad news about myspace, they also mention it several times a week.

If murdoch will go that far to introduce obvious adds as if it was news I'll bet you a pound to a pinch of shit that they'd run every bad story about Universal they can find... Don't assume a power structure from Universal down to myspace.

Re:I blame Universal Music (3, Funny)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121512)

Yeah. Cuz hackers NEVER take time out of their day to go after free music, and large, public web sites. They always spend their time going after the US military, and obsure Albanian porn sites.

Re:I blame Universal Music (3, Interesting)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121539)

Yeah. Cuz hackers NEVER take time out of their day to go after free music, and large, public web sites.

Look at it this way: it's a lot easier to download an album from ThePirateBay, than it is to comb through dozens of Myspace pages trying to cobble together all the songs from the album using this tool.

It's all about the laziest route to information... and this tool "ain't it". That fact, and its timeliness in relation to the Universal Music announcement makes it suspicious.

Re:I blame Universal Music (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121543)

You can't cobble all the songs from the album. You can only get the X songs that the band put on their website because you can only upload music from the band's myspace.

Re:I blame Universal Music (1)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121582)

You can't cobble all the songs from the album. You can only get the X songs that the band put on their website because you can only upload music from the band's myspace.

Well, then that's even stupider, when you compare it to thepiratebay. And more proof that Universal's whole "Myspace = piracy" thing is a red herring.

Re:I blame Universal Music (2, Insightful)

garylian (870843) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121820)

You do realize that most of the songs people are after are probably by independent artists, that have no contract with a major record label, right?

Who would want to download the songs people put on their main pages? The quality is horrible for digital music. I'd rather pay iTunes the $0.99 for the song if I wanted it, not get some crap quality version from MySpace.

I think your tinfoil hat is worn out. You might need to go to your local Wal-Mart and get another roll.

Re:I blame Universal Music (3, Interesting)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121596)

Look at it this way: hackers hack. That is what they do. Sure, there may be a different way of accomplishing the same thing. But hackers love to find a different way of doing something just to prove they can. No need for a big conspiracy and trilateral commission.

Re:I blame Universal Music (1)

mini me (132455) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122412)

There are several songs on MySpace that I'd like to listen to offline, or just to avoid the oh-so-awful MySpace player, that aren't readily available through any other means.

Re:I blame Universal Music (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121638)

Yeah. Cuz hackers NEVER take time out of their day to go after free music, and large, public web sites. They always spend their time going after the US military, and obsure Albanian porn sites.

May I please have the address of this "obsure Albanian porn site"?

Re:I blame Universal Music (1)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121695)

I would, but it involves trysts with Rosie O'Donnell and Roseanne Barr. I do not want to start a meme worse that goatse, so lets leave the link our.

Re:I blame Universal Music (1)

jb.hl.com (782137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121887)

At least post the WHOIS information so we can burn down the person responsible's house.

The lack of Web 2.0 security. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121477)

This is just another example of Web 2.0 security, or the lack thereof. Too much emphasis is placed on what amounts to useless functionality and appearance, rather than to security, efficiency, and reliability.

At the place where I work, one of the managers recently pressed for the use of Web 2.0 technologies for a new product we were going to start working on. Our development team had to basically shut this manager down, since we were not prepared to put out a piece of software that relied on such shoddy techniques and tools.

We went above his head, and explained to upper management that those technologies are inherently flawed. They do not provide a suitable level of security, and the minimal benefits they offer can, for the most part, be duplicated using far more mature and secure methods. From legal and PR standpoints, the insecurity of many Web 2.0 technologies could lead to very serious problems. Thankfully, our manager was overruled by upper management in this case.

But I'm still concerned with how other sites and services are implemented. This example just shows the flawed nature of the Web 2.0 ideas, where in many cases the security of the system just isn't considered. If this private MySpace music data can be accessed with apparent ease, what is to suggest that their other data isn't vulnerable in such ways? I've done my best to avoid sites and services that use extensive Web 2.0 functionality, because it has a very poor security track record, and my data is far too valuable to fall victim to their shitty implementations.

Re:The lack of Web 2.0 security. (2, Insightful)

Rekolitus (899752) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121488)

Really, it's the fact that they let you listen to music but try to stop you downloading it — it's stupidity in itself. If your computer is receiving the audio data, you can save it. But then again, similar things can be said about DRM.

Re:The lack of Web 2.0 security. (4, Insightful)

spiritraveller (641174) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121563)

This is just another example of Web 2.0 security, or the lack thereof.

I disagree. They are letting people download this music, but they are supposed to prevent them from saving the file.

This is just an attempt at DRM, which really has little to do with our traditional notion of "computer security".

"Security" usually means preventing unauthorized access of your computers... not preventing unauthorized access to data after you give it to someone.

Re:The lack of Web 2.0 security. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121580)

"Security" usually means preventing unauthorized access of your computers... not preventing unauthorized access to data after you give it to someone.

Wrong. Computer security surely does include limiting access to data after giving it to somebody else. Just consider encrypted emails. You're encrypting them before passing them off to one or more SMTP servers, most likely to prevent random people and systems along the way from accessing the message.

The same goes for remote shell sessions over the Internet (ie. the passing of data over any number of foreign gateways, networks, etc.) via SSH. Don't forget that SSH is short for Secure Shell. It has the word "secure" in its very name!

It'd be foolish to suggest that such data protection doesn't fall under the defition of "security".

Re:The lack of Web 2.0 security. (1)

AnyoneEB (574727) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122260)

What are you talking about? The topic is a webpage that plays music and attempts to deny the user the right to save the music they are listening to, and you are you talking about protocols with end-to-end encryption. They have nothing to do with each other.

Doesn't seem to work all the time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121481)

2 songs on this friendid: 71848725 doesn't appear to work.

Re:Doesn't seem to work all the time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121497)

75752279 doesn't work either. Ah well...

A different way (1)

Mozk (844858) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121483)

I've ripped music from MySpace pages, but I did it using a recording program like Total Recorder [highcriteria.com]. Basically it creates a virtual audio driver, records using that, then sends the audio to your regular driver. The only downside is that it does so in real-time, so you'd have to wait for the song to play.

Unfortunately MySpace music is only 96kpbs MP3s (AFAIK), so it's gonna be low quality, but lots of artists have MySpace exclusives or live songs only available there, which leaves it as the only choice.

or if you run KDE ... (1)

SpooForBrains (771537) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121591)

ARTS (Arts? ARts?) already allows you to do exactly what you just said, without downloading anything extra. I imagine other *nix audio technologies probably offer similar functionality ...

Re:A different way (1)

mattpointblank (936343) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121600)

You could just set your sound device as your recording device in Windows Sound Mixer or whatever its called and then record from there, much simpler. I've captured live streams like this.

Re:A different way (1)

Chemicalscum (525689) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122302)

I just ripped the Long Blondes - Separated by Motorways remix mp3 from MySpace. I just used the VideoDownloader extension for Firefox. Rips sound as well as video. Should work as well in Windows as it does in Linux

In other news (5, Funny)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121493)

it is rumored that the Americans in Guatanamo Bay in Cuba downloaded this program and used it as part of their "alternative interrogations" program. Quoth an anonymous source "Not even the most devout person in the world can withstand a constant barrage of myspace musical selections"

Re:In other news (1)

jamstar7 (694492) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122058)

Lemme guess...

The interrogators forced our 'involuntary Muslim visitors' to listen to Brittney Spears, then tacked on a few dozen years to their sentences because the rips were pirated.

Wouldn't this be considered cruel & unusual punishment, just like forcing my kids to watch Barney should be considered child abuse??

Why? (1)

shodai (970706) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121494)

Why would anyone download a song off of Myspace? Honestly, i'd really like to know. Wouldn't it be easier to stick your head in a toilet and start screaming about your ex?

Re:Why? (1)

donaggie03 (769758) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121513)

Obviously you didn't do your research. If you did, you'd know that MySpace is now one of the only places you can the classics from such remarkable and beloved artists as Milli Vanilli. Seriously. :)

Re:Why? (1)

CrankyFool (680025) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121525)

I've personally experienced cases where I was looking for a remix of a song and the only place it was available was the DJ's page on MySpace. Go figure...

Re:Why? (1)

gravis777 (123605) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121630)

There are many independant artists on Myspace, many of which do not have a personal website, or if they do, do not have music on their sites. Myspace is an easy way for the independant artists to get recognized, and easily post their songs.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121865)

Just today I wanted to check out this indie electronic band called Balun. Found their Myspace site, which has a few sample tracks on it. A few hours later I see this app on Slashdot....must be fate. Of course, the app doesn't seem to work, so maybe not. Anyways, yes there are lots of indie artists with sample songs on their Myspace sites. This app (if it was working) would be sweet.

Re:Why? (1)

jamstar7 (694492) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122074)

And when *AA manage to close MySpace down, those indy artists are gonna have to sign their lives away to permenant indenture to *AA in order for their music ot be heard.

A win-win situation for *AA.

Re:Why? (1)

shodai (970706) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122014)

Now I just feel like a troll. :(
Off topic, but are there any rather exceptional indie bands on Myspace that you know of, and could you provide a link?

Re:Why? (1)

ThePengwin (934031) | more than 7 years ago | (#16123357)

It may be an attempt to make emos happier, by giving them that music so they dont have to sit on the net to listen to it

It doesn't work.... (2, Informative)

Stormx2 (1003260) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121499)

Am I missing something? It fails to grab any listings from any artists. Even the one used in the screenshot. Thats the web version and the desktop one.

Re:It doesn't work.... (1)

gravis777 (123605) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121782)

I agree. I punch in the friend ID and it tells me there are no songs on the page, even when I am looking at it and its clear the artist has 5 or 6 songs on the page. The MySpace Informant sounds pretty cool, but MySpaceIM already does the same thing.

I can see it coming... (2, Interesting)

Hunter-Killer (144296) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121500)

1. Wait for 0-day news of product.
2. Create a trojan with adware.
3. Post a link to a "mirror" with the trojan. Bundling the original program is optional.
4. Sit back and earn 0.25 per install.

Caveat emptor.

Re:I can see it coming... (1)

RMB2 (936187) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121540)

1. MySpace
2. ???
3. Profit

It appears this guy is one of the first to figure out ??? ==

Must already be patched by myspace (4, Informative)

linuxrunner (225041) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121521)

I just tried downloading off my buddies band page, just to see how/if it works, and nadda.

So.. move along, nothing to see here.

LR

Re:Must already be patched by myspace (1)

tutwabee (758134) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121535)

I tried both the downloadable and web versions with various artists. It doesn't work.

Re:Must already be patched by myspace (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121568)

If this works by downloading the stream and stripping the padding out, then it's theoretically unpatchable. I'd guess myspace is using the UserAgent string to block it.

This is just wrong (0, Flamebait)

blake213 (575924) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121532)

As a musician with his songs on Myspace, I think this is completely unjust and horrible. I'm sure many musicians, artists and bands would agree with me when I say that if I wanted my music to be freely distributed, I would make it available for download on Myspace. This take the notion of "stealing" music to the next level; it really is stealing. Music isn't free. Live with it.

Re:This is just wrong (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121537)

so if I held a tape recorder up to my speakers would that not be stealing? If you're putting it out there on the internet, there are a myriad of ways to turn it into an mp3. If you don't want people transcoding your music, maybe you shouldn't have it on myspace?

Re:This is just wrong (1)

blake213 (575924) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121564)

If you don't want people transcoding your music, maybe you shouldn't have it on myspace?

That's not the point. Sure, I understand that it's possible to record my music with software like total recorder et al, but I would imagine the majority would not take the time to do so. With this new tool, it gives the majority a quick and painless way to get copies of my music.

Saying "You put it online, so you shouldn't mind people ripping it" is like telling a car dealership that they should accept that their cars are being stolen because they put them on display in their lot. Whether they get it through total recorder or this hack, it's still unlawful and wrong. But now just about anyone can do it.

Re:This is just wrong (3, Insightful)

veganboyjosh (896761) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121643)

Saying "You put it online, so you shouldn't mind people ripping it" is like telling a car dealership that they should accept that their cars are being stolen because they put them on display in their lot.

um...no. it's like a car "dealership" saying "i know we put these cars in the lot, with the keys in them, for people to use for free, but stealing them is wrong." the songs aren't there to be looked at and not used. as far as i know, there's no limit to how many times you can listen to a song on someone's profile. just keep hitting play, and it starts over.

Re:This is just wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121550)

It's good to know you're doing it for the music, and you aren't some sellout who just wants money.

Re:This is just wrong (1)

blake213 (575924) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121575)

It's good to know you're doing it for the music, and you aren't some sellout who just wants money.

If I want to make music my living, I have to be able to pay the bills. That's not going to happen if my music is free. Music takes time and money to create, just like any other art. Do you see painters giving all of their best paintings away for free? Perhaps the ones that are already wealthy.

Making music for a living is different than selling out. If I wasn't "doing it for the music", I'd find myself a job in a cubicle and "do it for the company". It's always for the music. But a guy's gotta make a living.

Re:This is just wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121614)

1) If you want to sell your music you are not going to put it all on, or put it only on myspace.

2) Yes, I do know of several artists that make their artwork available and are not already wealthy. That said, they would very much like it if you buy a print or the original.

[your argument that most artists would not give their originals away I agree with... this isn't black and white]

Re:This is just wrong (1)

finiteSet (834891) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121686)

Do you see painters giving all of their best paintings away for free
Except a painter would have to paint each and every painting that he/she gave away, unlike you, who makes it once for some fixed cost and then distribution is free. The painter has O(N) cost, while yours is O(1).*

Now I know many musicians feel entitled to O(N) profits, which is understandable because the industry has been set up to work like that thus far (for better or worse). I respect your ability to make that decision for yourself, and accordingly, I do not download copyrighted music.

Having said that, as a potential customer, I'd much rather pay to go to a live show for an artist/band that I know I like than be nickled and dimed for every shiny little disc from artists/bands who can't figure out how to break out of the old business model. Don't underestimate the appreciation of fans who get tossed a bone here and there. If you really like what you're doing, and you really are good at it, you will be okay even if you don't play scrooge with your mp3s.

* For N copies distributed.

Re:This is just wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121809)

The music, in essence, is mostly a tool to promote the band as an act and/or live show. For the most part, the band doesn't lose much in the way of profits from music being distributed online. Depending on their contract (as I've heard) they get between about 10 or 20 cents per CD. If you sell 1,000,000 CDs, the record company gets around $15mil for their profit and expenses leaving the band with about $200,000, then the record company charges fees back to the band for any salary paid, expenses (such as videos and studio recording costs) and promotions. Most of the time, this can leave the band in the red, where they then must go on the road to make any money (or in a lot of cases, make any money back). Most artists that I have heard interviewed that aren't named Metallica or some of the other top names are fully in favor of allowing access or even giving their music away as promotion rather than deal with the record company bs.

Also, most of the record companies retain rights to any and all music on their label, making them the beneficiary of cash made by artists that are no longer with the label or bands that have broken up. Who do you think is still making money off of Guns 'N Roses? Sure as hell isn't Axl.

Basically, all this boils down to the fact that record companies, who aren't really responsible for any of the creative media distributed, don't want to get cut out of the industry and need to find real jobs.

wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16122239)

The music, in essence, is mostly a tool to promote the band as an act and/or live show.

That has to be some of the stupidest shit I've ever read. No, you moron, it's the reverse. There's a good reason that most bands launch their big tours shortly after the release of an album.

Re:This is just wrong (1)

Feyr (449684) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121554)

for the record, i dont visit myspace, i dont care about the music there, and i certainly won't use this program.

but really. if you don't want your music downloadable, don't put it online. there's nothing you can do that will prevent someone downloading it. in fact, to listen to it you first have to download it.

if you want people to be able to preview your music, supply them with 30 clips of it, not whole songs. because it WILL be downloaded /constantly amazed by the sheer cluelessness of media people

Re:This is just wrong (1)

niceone (992278) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121811)

I don't agree. Sure, there will be ways round any protection, but then again all this stuff is out there on p2p anyway for anyone who can be bothered. For everyone else though... putting up a download is saying "you don't have to buy this, just have it", they're not likely to go buy stuff if you do that are they?

Re:This is just wrong (1)

Feyr (449684) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121926)

not necessarily. all of the cds i've bought in the last 3 years were after hearing full songs on an internet radio (and sometimes saving the stream to disk, which i am allowed by law to do).

i was specifically addressing the OP's gripe that "if he wanted them downloaded he'd have checked the download this song" thing. he might or might not increase/decrease his revenue stream by putting a full song up for download. i have yet to see any serious research done on that. but common sense says if you dont want something to happen, don't do everything you can to make it happen.

Re:This is just wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121565)

If you don't want anyone to record your songs, don't broadcast them. Any method of broadcast can be captured, bleating about it being 'completely unjust and horrible,' when the same result can be achieved by anyone with a radio and a tape deck, is little more than petulance. The abysmal quality copies attainable by this route, and that of more traditional recording methods, is likely to have little or no impact on sales.

Re:This is just wrong (1)

Eideewt (603267) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121747)

If you wanted to keep your music to yourself, you wouldn't put it on the Internet at all.

Ok, explain... (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121534)

...Why do we need a whole program for this? It seems like the kind of thing you could easily do manually. Or better, a Firefox extension.

Not that hard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121555)

You can use SWFTools [swftools.org] to do this too. Nothing new...

Makes no sense (1)

Lobais (743851) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121593)

If you are going to illegally download a song, why use backdoors like this, when they are all available on the p2p and bittorrent networks?

Re:Makes no sense (2, Informative)

NotQuiteInsane (981960) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121879)

Because not all of the Myspace-hosted stuff is on P2P. A lot of unsigned bands upload their tracks, set them to no-download-allowed, but don't have CDs available. The only option left is to use TotalRecorder or MP3Gopher to grab the tracks.

Or go to a live show (if any) and smuggle in a Minidisc recorder. I hear that's quite a popular option, too.

Re:Makes no sense (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122043)

A lot of unsigned bands upload their tracks, set them to no-download-allowed, but don't have CDs available.

Have you tried contacting the band, asking them to burn and sell you a CD?

Re:Makes no sense (1)

NotQuiteInsane (981960) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122073)

Yeah, I tried a few times, but every time I did it I either got a bounceback from some remote mailserver, or no reply at all.

Re:Makes no sense (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122207)

every time I did it I either got a bounceback from some remote mailserver

Isn't it against myspace.com TOS to continue to use the site with an invalid e-mail address?

Re:Makes no sense (1)

NotQuiteInsane (981960) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122283)

Isn't it against myspace.com TOS to continue to use the site with an invalid e-mail address?
No idea, but I have no intention of squealing on someone to Myspace just for using a bouncing email address, especially if I like their music...
Plus I seriously doubt Ms would actually do anything about it.

Mac-based Alternative (1)

jonoid (863970) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121619)

If you are using a Mac, Audio Hijack (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijack/) records live audio from any application (such as Safari) and saves it in whatever format is convenient for you. It's not as easy as this posted program since it is done in real time, but works with more than just MySpace.

Slashdot is always late (5, Informative)

Mz6 (741941) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121651)

The "hack" worked when it was posted to digg about 2 days ago. Looks like it was fixed early this morning.

Re:Slashdot is always late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16121678)

"The "hack" worked when it was posted to digg about 2 days ago."

Yes, along with tons of worthless crap. Which is fine if you have the time to go through all of the stuff that doesn't matter.

Re:Slashdot is always late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16122475)

Yeah, I mean it takes me 30 seconds to scan a frontpage of all new articles I haven't seen. OMG THE TIME I WASTED.

bunk (1)

lazd.net (902541) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121722)

It doesn't work, and I'm glad. Giving alot of morons an easy way to get a song isn't that productive. If anyone really wanted the song, they'd record it or create a virtual audio driver that writes to a file as mentioned above, but morons are too lazy to do that.

What's the point? (1)

MP3Chuck (652277) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121757)

The MySpace player encodes at a pretty crappy quality. If it's a major label act whose music you're trying to get, there are a million other places you could get it (and the rest of the album it's on) at a much higher quality.

That leave indie artists ... and if it's an indie act whose music you're tryin to get, why not buy their freakin' CD instead of trying to rip them off?

So what? (1)

BlueScreenOfTOM (939766) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121834)

Why would anyone want to download music from MySpace? It sounds like ass. Seriously, what is it, 32kbps? I realize that some bands post music on MySpace before they release it (like Weird Al), but I think I'd rather chop off my ears with a rusty knife than listen to those songs on anything other than some crappy CompUSA speakers.

Re:So what? (1)

mabu (178417) | more than 7 years ago | (#16121862)

Thank about it. If you're spending much time enamoured with the content at Myspace, your standards aren't that high in the first place.

Hey, I can do this too! (1)

Ninwa (583633) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122409)

Open Audacity.
Set recording to stereo mix.
Turn off or silence all other programs that might make a sound.
Hit record.
Open the myspace page with the music I want to "download".
Wait until it's finished.
Hit stop recording on Audacity.
Cut out the beginning and ending dead air.
Save file.

Duh.

Re:Hey, I can do this too! (1)

Khyber (864651) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122800)

Gotta love the "What U Hear" feature in SBLive and higher cards! You can even do live mixing of effects to the music and it records like that (if you have a library of congress worth of preset effects, that is!)

ill-conceived hack (1)

SethJohnson (112166) | more than 7 years ago | (#16122607)

For some reason I thought this hack would be a mozilla plugin that would automatically disable the myspace player when visiting a myspace page. Unfortunately, this hack doesn't protect web users from annoying music, it causes them to copy the horrible audio to their local computers. What's the phone number for DCMA enforcement?!?

Seth
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