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Any Prospect of Serenity Sequel Quashed

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the i-told-you-they-could-take-the-sky-from-me dept.

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Shadowruni writes "According to IGN.com, there will be no sequel to Serenity." Update: 10/07 01:31 GMT by Z : As enjerth pointed out below, this is not 100% accurate. Don't believe IGN, is the lesson. Here's the word from the man himself: "I turn my back for five minutes (that's how long it takes to admire my lovely back) and the interweb goes banoonoos! Isn't there any ACTUAL news to get wrong? Sorry about all this; it might be best if I just stay off the computer for a while ... The brain place is crowded with goods, ideas, sequels, spinoffs, animated versions, miniseries, radio dramas -- this is just the used goods. All the new wares are in there as well and it's deafening. Once I create a verse I never let go of it. And figuring out how much of my energy should be devoted to reawakening the projects you all love with the actors and characters I all love, and how much should be forging ahead and creating entirely new works (which you are contractually obligated to love) is exhausting."

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What's the big deal? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343523)

It wasn't that great of a show. Fun to watch, but not great.

Re:What's the big deal? (1, Interesting)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343597)

I tend to agree. I enjoyed watching it, but it's not something I'm going to go out and spend money on.

Perhaps I would think more of it if the first time I saw it it hadn't been called Fist Full of Dollars.

KFG

Re:What's the big deal? (1)

urbanriot (924981) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343641)

Perhaps I would think more of it if the first time I saw it it hadn't been called Fist Full of Dollars. I'm not sure what a western remake of Kurosawa's Yojimbo has to do with Serenity...

Re:What's the big deal? (0, Troll)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343821)

That's ok, I'm not sure what the show has to do with Serenity.

KFG

Re:What's the big deal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16344165)

What?

Re:What's the big deal? (5, Informative)

enjerth (892959) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343741)

The article is exagerated.

Many sites ran with similar stories, taking Joss Whedon's words out of context.

From Whedonesque http://whedonesque.com/comments/11513#144407 [whedonesque.com] :

[snip]
If you missed all the fun, at the weekend Joss responded to the latest Serenity sequel rumour and quite rightly knocked it on the head. Several sites picked up on what he said and took his remarks to mean that there would be never be a sequel to Serenity.
[snip]

And in this thread, Joss Whedon replies http://whedonesque.com/comments/11513#144407 [whedonesque.com] with the following:

[snip]
Isn't there any ACTUAL news to get wrong? Sorry about all this; it might be best if I just stay off the computer for a while. Or just glut the feed with wild conjecture. Hmm, let's see... I'm me, so... let's glut! Here are some ABSOLUTELY TRUE statements of factiness. Gentlemen, start your websites.
[snip]

Joss was putting to rest the rumor that he was working on Serenity 2, not saying that there will never be a Serenity 2.

FOR FUCK'S SAKE! (1, Funny)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343773)

There's entire fucking ELIGONS based on more solid facts than what you're spouting.

"Joss was putting to rest the rumor that he was working on Serenity 2, not saying that there will never be a Serenity 2."

That's right, keep on hoping, you fucktard. Keep on making excuses.

Even if that fat fucker said "There will NEVER be a Serenity 2", you'll take it to mean he's already going to start working on "Serenity 3".

"Little House on the Prairie - IN SPACE" failed. Get over it.

Re:FOR FUCK'S SAKE! (3, Funny)

dead nancy (239321) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343943)

"Little House on the Prairie - IN SPACE" failed. Get over it.

I liked Firefly & Serenity a lot, but that was awesome!

Thanks.

DN

Re:What's the big deal? (2, Insightful)

aichpvee (631243) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343855)

Even if he eventually does one there's no way it'll be any time soon. He's working on at least two other films right now.

Re:What's the big deal? (1)

BootNinja (743040) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344003)

He's also about to start writing for the marvel comic, Runaways.

Damn. (1)

Saedrael (880381) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343531)

I think that sums it up pretty well.

Re:Damn. (1)

Disavian (611780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343565)

I think this is more there are no plans for a sequel. That doesn't mean he can't come back to it five years from now, if he needs to. Nobody would permanently trash an opportunity that big.

Re:Damn. (5, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343871)

> I think this is more there are no plans for a sequel. That doesn't mean he can't come back to it five years from now, if he needs to. Nobody would permanently trash an opportunity that big.

The Serenity sequel is like a leaf on the wind. Leaf on the wi***CRUNCH***

Re:Damn. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343667)

No it doesn't. All that was said is they are not working on a sequel at the moment. He didn't rule it out in the future. The title of this submission is totally misleading.

Re:Damn. (3, Funny)

DrJimbo (594231) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343809)

I think you meant: Gorram!

Re:Damn. (1)

Secret Rabbit (914973) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344037)

Actually, all Joss said was that there is no sequel in the works RIGHT NOW.

Please note that this does NOT mean that there is never be one.

Re:Damn. (1)

RayDude (798709) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344057)

I had really hoped that the reason Sci_Fi canceled SG1 was to funnel money to Joss and Firefly. Bummer really. Raydude

aw man (2, Funny)

codexile (879093) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343535)

That's really too bad. All of my favorite shows keep getting crushed and destroyed. Wonderfalls, Firefly, The Super Mario Brothers Super Show. *sigh*

Re:aw man (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16344177)

Peter: "Everybody I've got bad news. We've been cancelled."
Lois: "Oh no Peter! How could they do that?"
Peter: "Well unfortuantely Lois, there's just no more room on the schedule. We just gotta accept the fact that FOX has to make room for terrific shows like Dark Angel, Titus, Undeclared, Action, That 80's Show, Wonder Falls, Fast Lane, Andy Richter Controls The Universe, Skin, Girl's Club, Cracking Up, The Pitts, Firefly, Get Real, Freaky Links, Wanda At Large, Costello, The Lone Gunman, A Minute with Stan Hooper, Normal Ohio, Pasadena, Harsh Realm, Keen Eddy, The Street, American Embassy, Cedric The Entertainer, The Tick, Louie, And Greg The Bunny...."
Lois: "Is there no hope?"
Peter: "Well I suppose if ALL those shows go down the tubes we might have a shot."

Re:aw man (1)

DoorFrame (22108) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344265)

Wonderfalls was great.

Also, Skin? "His father is the District Attorney!"

The do something else! (0)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343537)

Joss has been kinda quiet lately. I'd love to see a new series. Or, better yet, get involved with the new Star Wars shows on the horizon.

Re:The[n] do something else! (1)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343569)

One word: Willow.

Re:The do something else! (1)

wangmaster (760932) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343769)

He's been quiet in the video front, but he's been authoring a very kick ass x-men title, and from what I understand starting early next year, he'll be writing a Buffy comic taking place after the events of the end of the tv show.

He hasn't entirely dropped off :)

Re:The do something else! (1)

Dance_Dance_Karnov (793804) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343775)

He is doing something else, he works for Marvel. He currently writes Astonishing X-men, and will be taking over Runaways starting with issue 25.

OK (0)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343539)

lets get on with the next thing.

So is that not shiny, or dull?

He also made it clear . . . (3, Informative)

taustin (171655) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343551)

. . . there's no reason it couldn't happen. It just isn't happening now, and is less likely as time goes by.

Re:He also made it clear . . . (1)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344053)

Without giving spoilers for anyone who didn't see Serenity, I think there are several pretty clear reasons that it couldn't carry on, at least not with anything like the same atmosphere as the original Firefly series.

Re:He also made it clear . . . (1)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344341)

> Without giving spoilers for anyone who didn't see Serenity, I think there are several pretty clear reasons that it couldn't carry on, at least not with anything like the same atmosphere as the original Firefly series

Hey, speaking of no-more-Firefly-ever... I would really like Joss Whedon to reveal what 'Book's big secret was. The movie didn't reveal it, and we will never find out now...

Fair enough... (5, Funny)

n9uxu8 (729360) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343567)

No sequel...I get it...so tell me about the prequel you are working on... Dave

Re:Fair enough... (1)

teslar (706653) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343801)

You got it

"Yeah... that went well..."

Re:Fair enough... (1)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344327)

Do we really need to see Mal as a drunken frat boy?

"My dad owns a car dealership!"

Made a profit (2, Insightful)

RedWizzard (192002) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343571)

TFA is incorrect about Serenity failing to make a profit when including DVD sales. I suspect someone forgot to include the non-US boxoffice. Serenity made $39M on a budget of $39M [boxofficemojo.com] worldwide, and while that does include the marketing (probably around $10M), DVD sales would certainly have resulted in a profit. I believe it made about $13M on DVD and VHS rentals alone.

Re:Made a profit (2, Interesting)

Jherek Carnelian (831679) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343635)

Serenity made $39M on a budget of $39M worldwide, and while that does include the marketing (probably around $10M), DVD sales would certainly have resulted in a profit.

Don't forget the Stupid German Money [google.com] that makes a kind of profit even if the movie doesn't. I haven't checked the credits roll for any GmbH listings, but it is virtually certain that stupid german money was used in the production since it has been used in just about every other hollywood production in recent years (for example, all the Uwe Boll flopaloozas, and all of LotR too).

Re:Made a profit (5, Informative)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344103)

Actually that's a loss. Some inside quotes. For the first week the studio gets 60% of the boxoffice. After that it generally drops to 50% with it continuing to drop with the theater owners making an increasing percentage, 60%+. The studio would have made a little less than 20 mill off the theatrical take with ten mill for advertising being conservative. If it made 13 mill on DVD sales that means they made back less than 23 mill on a 39 mill investment. That's extremely bad. I think it was badly marketed which cost it sales but it's unlikely to have ever broke even making it a very bad risk for the studio to make sequels. I liked the movie version but it didn't even come close to seeing a profit based on the numbers you provided.

Re:Made a profit (1)

shma (863063) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344109)

Considering that the film just came in at under even and we don't know the exact dvd production or marketing costs, I think it may be that they did not recoup the total costs. But even if they did make 52 million with a production budget of 39 million + 10 million marketing, we're talking about a modest profit (6%). And the studio would know that for any sequal they would be pulling in almost identical numbers. So why would they bother wasting a year filming a sequal when other modest movies [boxofficemojo.com] are making profits of many times their production costs?(Even throw in 10 million for marketing, and you'd still have more than 300% profit)Serenity was given a chance, and it performed modestly. Good luck to Whedon with his future projects, but I doubt he could come back to the Firefly universe even if he wanted to.

Here Is To a BSG Movie (5, Interesting)

moore.dustin (942289) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343585)

Firefly is over so I can only hope Battlestar Gallactica gets the steam it needs to have a feature film. It could be very well received given the way BSG is grabbing non-SciFi people.

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343613)

I haven't seen an episode of it, and I -am- a sci-fi person.

What am I missing?

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343659)

You're missing of the best show on TV. The third series premiers tonight, and there's a free 40 minute 'catch up' show on iTunes [apple.com] . However, it will totally ruin the two brilliant series' before it.

Perhaps grab this [torrentspy.com] , then this [torrentspy.com] , then download the series three stuff once you've caught up.

Enjoy!

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (0)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343791)

It's a good show, but the "amateur camera operator" technique drives me away. I just can't concentrate on the show itself - I'm one of those people who throw a CD out because of a single skip.

Perhaps they don't use that style any more, it's been a long time since I've given it another try.

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (0)

Dun Malg (230075) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344207)

It's a good show, but the "amateur camera operator" technique drives me away.
You mean they do that irritating "pseudo first person" handheld camera bullshit? I want to know what fucktard came up with that and thought it was a good idea. Man, I hope they don't do a lot of it, because I have the BSG first season on the way from netflix for this week's TV viewing...

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (0)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344129)

Yeah, great move. We finally get another great sci-fi show, and you want to kill it by encouraging people to download it illegally rather than spending the modest asking price to buy a DVD set that can be had from Amazon within 24 hours.

And we wonder why shows like Firefly got canned. Sheesh.

A sci-fi show that works.. (2, Informative)

msimm (580077) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343663)

as a drama and an action movie without having to dumb down the plot, with special effects and acting on par with anything you'd see on the big screen.

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343969)

You are missing a tired remake because the writers were too unoriginal to come up with their own story line.

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (4, Insightful)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343999)

What am I missing?
What is the nature of political power? Can there be a legitimate government without an army to back it up? What properties should something possess before we grant it rights? Can something non-human be treated as a moral agent? Which of our rights should we give up in extreme situations? Do the ends justify the means?

Like Star Trek before it, Battlestar grapples with these issues. Unlike Star Trek, it doesn't lecture you. It doesn't present you with easy answers. It doesn't tell you the answer that will make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Instead it brings up these issues within the context of a damn fine drama with all of the complex and messy interdependencies that we find in real life. The characters are complex and inconsistent and develop as they face these challenges. There are no clearly defined goodies and baddies. Even the Cylons have convoluted motivations. The characters (apart from Baltar) rarely fit simple pigeon-hole categories and we definitely don't have to endure annoying individuals who preach to us from a pedestal of high moral ground (though you may think one or two are a little self-righteous if you only watch a single episode).

Oh...one last thing...like Firefly it doesn't have people wearing silly masks pretending to be aliens.

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (1)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344203)

I agree that BSG touches on a lot of deep issues, and generally does it well. Last time we had a discussion about it around here (before the season two box set was out) I said that I thought the series was good, but suffered from always being so negative, with hardly any lucky breaks, or happy endings, or even hope. Someone suggested that this changed somewhat in the middle of season two, in the mid-season extended episode.

While I've now seen the box set and understand the point that reply was making, I still think it's a shame the series is so "heavy" all the time. Sure, there have been flashes of hope: the first time the count goes up in series one, for example, and a couple of the big plot twists I won't spoil in series two. But after watching the whole season within a few days (I do that with new DVD box sets...), my overwhelming emotions are still very negative. I can't think of a single character who really has a happy "story so far" at this stage, and while some of the fear and hardship and loss is integral to the plot, some of it (I'm thinking of one recurring character's death in particular here) seemed to be entirely without purpose, and to break one of the few genuinely positive things about the storyline.

There are no clearly defined goodies and baddies.

I'm not sure I'd agree with that:

Cylon: No harm done.
Adama: No harm! You completely annihilated our race, destroyed our civilization.

I think it's pretty clear who the bad guys are! They're just not cookie-cutter bad guys who are "miscellaneously evil" (as the Wraith from SG: Atlantis were once described around here). And yes, some of them do have silly masks, though I'm more of a Tricia Helfer fan myself. ;-)

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (1)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344255)

I think it's pretty clear who the bad guys are!
Is the Sharon on the BSG a bad guy? What about the 'war hero' Sharon and #6? What about the preacher that Roslin thoughtlessly tossed out of the airlock? And anyway, who was it that started this war in the first place by enslaving the Cylons? Give up your obvious bias towards humans and look at the bigger picture :-)

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (1)

cappadocius (555740) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343661)

I don't really understand this impulse to turn things that are great in one medium into things in another.

I really love BSG, but I think a lot of its power comes from being a serial television program. Listen to Ron Moore's podcasts and you'll hear him remark on that. What exactly would be so great about a movie that can't be done in a 2- or 3-parter (which they actually do)?

And similarly, I didn't think Serenity was all that great. I mean, I enjoyed it, but not like the episodes. I have watched the episodes of Firefly a dozen times now. There's no chance I'll watch Serenity that many times.

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343717)

Serenity felt a lot like two or three three movies crammed into the time slot of one. The pace was so rediculously fast and they covered so much that it's kind of annoying that way. It also didn't have as much comedy, at least I thought so.

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16344193)

Actually, i think it comes comes from starting as a mini-series (essentially, a long movie, actually, i have seen a movie that actually was about 6 hours long before...). Because it started as a mini-series, it was ment to have a end. What i dont like about a lot of other shows, especially scefi shows, is that they just keep going and going without a end (even the original BSG from what i have seen), sure, they might find a good plot line for a season or so, but it gets old. BSG (the new one) is good, in that i expect it to end, coming from a mini-series that did end. Its like a good long story, they have to end sometimes, and right now, the BSG storyline still feels natural and good, and not trying to keep the series going, but just letting it all happen. Thats why i think BSG is such a greate show, and can only hope that it ends when its time to end it, and not try to keep going like other scifi shows.

If they do make a movie from it, i dont think it will lose much. The series as it is already seems to be close to a movie in terms of pictures and acting, only the story itself flows slower then what a movie would have. If they where to make a movie out of it, i cant only hope they dont crap out on it, and make it 2 hours at least (as all good movies are), and dont rush the plot, just use it to end the whole storyline, but not rush thru the whole storyline.

Re:Here Is To a BSG Movie (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343959)

Personally, I'd rather see the funds go into a porn with Mal and Boomer going at it.

for the best (1)

thesupermikey (220055) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343587)

I loved both firefly and Serenity, but i dont feel that the film lived of the the high standard of excellences of Wheaton et al. Wonder Woman news im sure will start to come out in a few months and than who knows what. I would love to see a new TV show, maybe something on HBO....that will never happen

Sequel would have been sweet... (4, Interesting)

TimeForGuinness (701731) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343591)

I didn't follow Firefly, and I saw Serenity about 4 months ago. (Please don't revoke my geek card)

I must say, it was one of my favorite SciFi flicks to date. It totally surprised me, decent story, decent graphics. I recommended it to a lot of my friends. I described it loosely as if they made a movie about Han Solo. (rugged, funny thief...they almost dressed the same)

I was looking forward to another movie. I like the SciFiWestern combo that he pulled off.

Maybe I will just have to start watching Firefly.

Cheers,
TFG

Re:Sequel would have been sweet... (2, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343601)

yes you should.
If you like the movie, the series will thrill you.

Re:Sequel would have been sweet... (1)

TimeForGuinness (701731) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343625)

Sweet, thanks for the reply. I'll check it out. I haven't had time the last few years to devote to a series. Thank God for the series/season DVDs....I can catch up. Cheers, TFG

Re:Sequel would have been sweet... (1)

MojoStan (776183) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344133)

I'll check it out. I haven't had time the last few years to devote to a series. Thank God for the series/season DVDs....I can catch up.
Make sure you can devote about fifteen hours of a weekend to watch all 14 episodes (45 minutes each with 90 minute premiere) and to watch the movie again (it's a different experience after watching the tv series). You might think you have the self-discipline to watch a reasonable number of minutes per day, but just in case...

Personally, I made the mistake of watching the Firefly DVD one evening and (since I wasn't doing anything important the next day) stayed up all night. I feel like such a dope admitting this on Slashdot.

Re:Sequel would have been sweet... (4, Insightful)

MMC Monster (602931) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344313)

Prepare to be saddened. Not by the episodes. They're funny, lighthearted, well written and acted, and some of the best stuff you wil ever watch in the sci-fi or western genres.

You will be sad when you finish it and realize that it's all over and there is nothing left to watch.

Re:Sequel would have been sweet... (2, Insightful)

BWJones (18351) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343953)

Firefly was everything that Star Wars could have/should have been. Good writing, well developed characters, good acting, right setting, good costumes, good etc...etc...etc...

Go out and buy Firefly, you will *not* be disappointed.

Joss Whedon sucks. (-1, Troll)

DrunkenTerror (561616) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343593)

And so do all you losers that lick his asshole.

Re:Joss Whedon sucks. (1)

irishdaze (839248) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343627)

Wow. Sounds like someone needs a nap. Get a grip, don't you have anything better to do smack at fanboys for no good reason?

Re:Joss Whedon sucks. (-1, Troll)

DrunkenTerror (561616) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344027)

Whate're man. Whedon is awesome, if you have Asperger's Syndrome.

Shit (1)

valkabo (840034) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343607)

Shit.. back to reality :(

Need a new catagory for these announcements (2, Funny)

doctorsmoothy (987100) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343651)

A new serenity movie would not be news. But if you call this "Not even not news" the double negative makes it sound like news.

I don't watch much tv... (1)

xx01dk (191137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343657)

Double reason to hate: When I do watch tv, it's usually crap, and I'm bombarded by shows I don't like so I end up watching less tv.
When I actually do like a show, it gets canceled, I get discouraged, so I end up watching less tv. Draw your own conclusions, but I'll probably end up watching less tv whatever you conclude.

Any networks want to hire me (pay me) to like a rival network's shows?

Re:I don't watch much tv... (1)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343907)

When I do watch tv, it's usually crap...
Do you really think so? Try going out to see a movie, then you'll see what the word 'crap' really means. The TV studios are currently producing the best drama and entertainment that they ever have. I gave up watching TV for about 8 years. Then about two years ago I got hooked on series like The Sopranos, Firefly and Battlestar Galactica on DVD. Now I have a 50" TV in the living room...

Bad TV show, great movie (1)

Che Guevarra (85906) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343665)

That's really too bad. The show left me flat, but the movie rocked. Ofcourse it only rocked based on my knowledge of the bad TV show. Bit of a paradox here. Shame though.

Re:Bad TV show, great movie (1)

Angostura (703910) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343709)

Curious. The movie was OK, but not a patch on the show, IMHO. I liked the leisurely character development in the latter.

Re:Bad TV show, great movie (1, Insightful)

Che Guevarra (85906) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343803)

I believe it was the pace of the show and the production value (lack of FX) that left me flat. There was never anything wrong with the characters, just something about the western theme and the civil war music. Too dusty for my taste. I will say this though, I really am a Whedon fan, he ate up about 7 years of my life on UPN/WB.

Re:Bad TV show, great movie (1)

MandoSKippy (708601) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344253)

Civil war music... huh?
Do you know what civil war music is? Or did you see a show once that had a fiddle in in and now all music with fiddles is civil war music. By that logic all music with british guys singing is beatles music, and all music that has electric guitar is heavy metal. What logic did you use? If any thing, that music is a progressive acoustic folk.

Jeez... nerds talking music...

Would been quite hard away (1, Interesting)

CharonX (522492) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343669)

As the article says with some key characters dead and the major mysteries resolved there are no plot lines to hook on.
One could feel in the movie that the series ended prematurely - with the highly compressed plot material found in the movie and the comic one could have easily filled a 2nd season, not to mention "paths not taken". But I must say Joss Whedon did the right thing - he gave the series closure. We know how the big plots resolved, we mourn the loss of loved ones and yet there is a somewhat bright future imaginable for Serenity and their crew.
Still, I am sad that there will be no new Firefly movie or series in the predictable future, but who knows - once Fox loses its choking grip on this good TV series there might be hope again if a better channel picks up the series - but this will not happen in the next few years, so I will not be holding my breath.

Re:Would been quite hard away (4, Interesting)

Kenshin (43036) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344243)

I always wanted to know more about Shepherd Book. People were always saying "He's not a Shepherd", but no one ever said what he actually WAS.

you are too stupid to know it (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343671)

but firefly sucked. serenity sucked.

it failed totally. didnt even make as much money as any of the really horrible movies in the last year.

that should tell you something. like. you were WRONG.

Good! (1)

BubbaFett (47115) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343683)

Don't go ruin it like Star Wars and The Matrix. Do something new and awesome.

Somewhat misinterpreted (5, Informative)

TooTrueTroubs (630665) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343689)

In this post: http://whedonesque.com/comments/11513 [whedonesque.com] Joss Whedon explains that his comments don't mean 'no Serenity ever' - just 'no Serenity NOW'.

When the two worlds align and something actually happens, whatever it is, you guys know I'll be on this site as soon as I'm allowed to be. And I'll be very very clear. There is no news. Not never, just now.

Re:Somewhat misinterpreted (1)

mstra (38238) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343965)

just 'no Serenity NOW'

Lloyd: You know, you should tell your dad that 'serenity now' thing doesn't work. It just bottles up the anger, and eventually, you blow.
George: What do you know? You were in the nut house.
Lloyd: What do you think put me there?
George: I heard they found a family in your freezer.
Lloyd: Serenity now. Insanity later.

Re:Somewhat misinterpreted (1)

sarge apone (918461) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343981)

just 'no Serenity NOW'

Maybe he should start using the phrase, "Hoochie Momma"

Fanboyism is getting heavier around here (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343703)

Or is that fagboyism?

Who give a damn about this trash?

Re:That's clever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16344035)

have a banana

Maybe... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343713)

Maybe there will be a sequel to the sequel...

Old news (1)

mcvos (645701) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343787)

Whedon has said this before and will probably have to repeat it again to fans hoping for a sequel. I'm hoping for a sequel too, but I seriously doubt it's ever going to happen.

Time for a new quality SF TV series, I'd say.

sigh.. (1)

Leviance (1001065) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343825)

Yet another reminder of why I hate Fox.

Its a sorry shame.

Not never. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343881)

Straight from the horse's mouth [whedonesque.com] : 4) I will absolutely, posatively never ever do any kind of Serenity sequel or spinoff unless a studio asks me. Politely. Or meanly, that's cool too.

NOT TRUE (1)

gambit3 (463693) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343891)

Josh was just setting to bed rumors that had been circling that there was a Serenity sequel IN THE WORKS.

No More Mrs. Reynolds.... (4, Interesting)

DESADE (104626) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343895)

I was seriously hoping for some kind of resurrection of the character played by Christina Hendricks in "Our Mrs. Reynolds" and "Trash." I'm sure some of you remember the salaciously hot redhead.

It's a shame when shows like Firefly get axed when so much crap survives. But, I hate to admit it, I missed Firefly on TV and only got hip to it on DVD. What a shame.

I think it's a tribute to Joss that he got the movie made at all. And anyone who saw the film knew it was the end.

Re:No More Mrs. Reynolds.... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344213)

Oh, you're gonna go to the special hell for bringing her up...

Re:No More Mrs. Reynolds.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16344237)

But, I hate to admit it, I missed Firefly on TV and only got hip to it on DVD. What a shame.


It's not your fault. The show was aired incompletely, out of order, in random timeslots.

Unfortunate (1)

Trindle (967054) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343925)

Much like the sentiments above, this makes me sad. Firefly has to be one of the most well done sci-fi shows to-date. I know that it had its problems but deep down it has (had) heart. Ah well.. at least we still have Battlestar Galactica.

No loss (2, Insightful)

kentrel (526003) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343933)

It was pretty bland, generic sci fi anyway which was being carried solely by the Buffy fanboys, who are terrifying in their obsessiveness. They make Star Trek fans look like mere hobbyists.

Though as banal as I found it, it still amazes me at what gets cancelled, and what doesn't. At least Firefly had a plot....

LEX??? - how many bloody series of that have there been!? I've never met anyone who liked it. Did you? Please reply, and tell me why! Did I just not "get it"? Did I have to be on drugs or have been anally probed by aliens to have enjoyed it?

Re:No loss (1)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344233)

Lexx was just strange, from the one episode I ever saw of it. Of course, that turned out to be the last episode, and it was 3am, and I was a bit drunk and a lot tired.

Re:No loss (1)

Mayhem178 (920970) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344277)

Bland and generic? Firefly had one of the best, most in-depth plots of any sci-fi show I've ever seen. It was far from a cookie-cutter reality. A Western in space? That's something unheard of on network television. Which, of course, was both its most unique achievement and its worst failure. I guess the typical people that watch Fox just didn't "get it."

And for the record, I have never seen a single episode of any other show of Joss Whedon's creation. Nor do they really interest me enough to warrant watching them. So, I don't really know where the Buffy reference is coming from. In fact, of all the people I know that love Firefly (and I know a friggin' lot), I don't think a one of them watches Buffy or Angel.

So, it's not so much saddening to know that there probably will be no resurrection for Firefly, but to hear Joss say it so defeatedly. That's just disheartening.

Serenity ain't ever coming back. (3, Insightful)

Pedrito (94783) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343977)

Sad to say, but it really won't. I didn't watch it when it was running, but I watched it before the movie came out and really enjoyed it. The movie was pretty decent too.

I think the problem with Serenity is that it's simply too sophisticated for your WWF fan types. The chinese expressions mixed in, six-gun slingers in space ships. It's just too much for a Nascar fan to cope with. I'm not saying the show is without its fans. I simply think that the average viewer can't quite get it, at least in the States, and that's too bad. It had a lot of originality and even though it had some rough edges, I think they would have really found their groove with another season.

Re:Serenity ain't ever coming back. (1)

EggyToast (858951) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344175)

Most shows take a season or two to find their groove. Look at X-Files, which was over the heads of pretty much everyone who would watch TV. It didn't really hit its stride until the 2nd season. Even ST:TNG didn't get big until after the 1st season finished.

The thing that sucks about Firefly wasn't that it "could've been big," or that there "might have been something if given the time." What sucks is that the 1st season was really good, but FOX killed it for political reasons (internal politics). It's the same thing they did to Family Guy.

Of course, Family Guy is also the reason why people still hope Firefly comes back.

Damn and blast. (3, Interesting)

jpellino (202698) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343979)

This series made my head snap around, which is more than I can say about 80% of the scifi in the past ten years.
Geez, the guy could suck the vampire franchise dry (sorry), you'd think he could soldier on without the likes of Wash and make it more/better/shinier. Even with the resolutions of the movie and all. One of my favorite quotes about anything creative is from Joss: "Restrictions are great because they make you more imaginative. They make you rethink things, they make you not-do the obvious." I'd say he set lots of restrictions on his existing story line and had no where to go but massively creative.
These characters were as salty / grounded / lofty / eye-twinkling / inventive as my favorite Heinlein characters. Even the trademark behaviors were just tweaked enough and were gently dashed often enough to keep you thinking "what's next?"

To quote Wash, this series told the rest of the scifi world "Here's something you can't do..."

We live in a world "Head of the Class" stays on the air for five seasons. Ya'd think they could keep this stuff rolling for more than one.

OP got the meaning ALL wrong. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16343987)

Joss did not say there will never be a sequel to Serenity. He just said no plans exist for there to be one at this point.

So all you lottery playing Firefly fans can relax and continue, firm in the knowledge that, if you win a big enough jackpot to secure the rights for the franchise and fund the production, the browncoats can start flying again.

FUCK! (1)

leon.gandalf (752828) | more than 7 years ago | (#16343989)

No Sereninty sequal but I bet there will be another Star Wars sequal\prequal.

Took my Sky (1)

Thedeviluno (903528) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344067)

There are no good shows and BattleStar is a similacrum.

Quit while you're ahead... (5, Insightful)

Aragorn DeLunar (311860) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344137)

and always leave them wanting more.

The alternative being: milk it to death and leave them cursing the name "Lucas."

http://serenityfails.ytmnd.com/ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16344145)

Thank goodness (0, Troll)

teal_ (53392) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344229)

Whew! The first movie sucked so bad, and I'm still mad at him for wrecking the "Aliens" franchise with that total crap "Alien Resurrection", blech.

Re:Thank goodness (1)

Hepneck (876605) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344329)

Oh yeah, because Aliens 3 had not already jumped the shark. Ripley H. Christ on a popsicle stick!

It's ok, you can still fantasize about... (1)

Hepneck (876605) | more than 7 years ago | (#16344345)

a sequel. You'll be in your bunk.
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