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64% of Online Gamers Are Female

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the good-news-everyone dept.

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According to a report discussed on 1up, a new study by the Nielsen folks finds that more than half of the 117 Million U.S. online gamers are women. From the article: "The study's announcement release doesn't break down what games they're playing, though we expect sites like pogo.com, which feature a multitude of Flash-based games are rather high on the list. Even more surprising is how many older gamers are playing. While the teenage market dominates in numbers, the study says more than 15 million gamers, about 8%, are actually at least 45 years old."

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well... (5, Funny)

Loconut1389 (455297) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353533)

well, about 20% of those -say- they're women...

Re:well... (4, Interesting)

dattaway (3088) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353553)

My wife plays on pogo.com. Simple games, cute sound effects and characters, and a chat window. And they talk about kids and family. That's something I don't hear horny teenage boys talk about, so yes, they are mostly females.

Re:well... (0, Offtopic)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353617)

Actually, talking about stuff like that would be a pretty good technique for convincing straight women to experiment a little. You have to start slow, and talk about mundane, boring, dreadful things at first. But after a few weeks/months, you can get a little more flirty, as women grow more comfortable with eachother. Then you can start experimenting after that.

Or so I'm told. ;)

Re:well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16353855)

We got ourselves a playa on our hands here, boys. Listen up.

Re:well... (-1, Offtopic)

Professor_UNIX (867045) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354299)

A true gamer must spend at least $500 a year upgrading their system to get better performance out of a game. Somehow I don't think those balloon popping games on Pogo require a really high end system.

Re:well... (0, Offtopic)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355451)

Most of those games are Flash or Java. They don't tax the GPU much, but my CPU load shoots to 100% as soon as I load one.

It seems that Flash is even multi-threaded these days. It can max out both cores on a Core Duo...

Senior Thesis (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355481)

I was a god at our school for essentially creating a portable Firefox and installing Flash on it. During Senior Thesis class, we had free reign over the computer lab to work on our thesis, and we spent most of it playing flash games. Maybe not the same games -- we played games like the Black Knight and whack-the-penguin -- but we played them nonetheless.

Well, and Doom. We also played networked Doom off of USB flash drives. But you get the point.

Re:well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16353577)

or at least think they're females...

Re:well... (5, Funny)

OnyxIR (456300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353633)

My time on IRC has taught me a valuable lesson... On the Internet, all the men are men, all the women are men, and all the children are FBI agents.

Dont believe the hype!

Some of the children aren't FBI agents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16354529)

Some are lonely old men. The rest are FBI agents.

The next time someone is busted for IRC-chat with an FBI agent, he should claim he was looking for horny old men who lie about their age. He'd be right, 'cause that's all there is after you take away the FBI agents.

Re:Some of the children aren't FBI agents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16355629)

I thought those were the FBI agents.

And.. (4, Funny)

Channard (693317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353857)

.. 100% of those 20% followed their survey reply with 'r U lesbAin? my PuSSy is hott 4u. wAnna cYber?'

HEY EVERYBODY IAM LOOKING AT GAY PORNO! (-1, Troll)

GNAA novice (1010771) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354107)

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Re:HEY EVERYBODY IAM LOOKING AT GAY PORNO! (1)

hustlebird (908138) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355593)

Am i missing something here? How did this get modded insightful? Someone please enlighten me, because I'm lost

WELL (-1, Troll)

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ok iam troll too (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16354207)

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Yeah right. (3, Funny)

SageLikeFool (547462) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353559)

Just because 64% of the characters are female doesn't mean the people playing them are in real life. Like the old joke about IRC goes - The men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents.

Re:Yeah right. (4, Funny)

radinator (805064) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353667)

Actually, it's "The men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents...and they're men!"

Welcome to the internet... (0, Redundant)

EotB (964562) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353561)

Where men are men, women are men and 14 year old girls are FBI agents...

I bet it's true (5, Informative)

joe 155 (937621) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353565)

In my house it's my girlfriend who plays games online the majority of the time. I hardly play online at all, but when I do it's on my DS or maybe a FPS; more indepth "proper" games (if there is such a thing). My girlfriend likes to play on gamerival on the simple little flash games where you just have to do very simple little word puzzles or arranging blocks.

So it is believable, but it might not be how you think - I doubt they are running round fragging everyone they see, or playing WoW (although some might...)

Re:I bet it's true (3, Informative)

risacher (41716) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353683)

Concur. In my house, my wife spends much time playing the flash-based puzzle games from neopets. Second prize goes to my daughter who plays the flash games on sesamestreet.org. I don't play online games at all. If I'm at the keyboard, I'm reading or coding.

Can't help but think... (3, Insightful)

Lorkki (863577) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354359)

Woe are the times when FPSs are considered "in-depth" games.

Re:Can't help but think... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16355317)

I don't play FPS games anymore, but I can vouch that there was a lot of strategie in some of the old Quake 1 mods like CTF and other team-oriented stuff.

Re:I bet it's true (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16354787)

Wait wait, let me get this straight - the study must be true because in your house your girlfriend plays the games and not you? Wow, you are really fucking stupid.

Re:I bet it's true (4, Funny)

m0rph3us0 (549631) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355609)

My wife runs a 300 person guild. I don't have the time for WoW, I have to participate in the real economy.

Gamers? (3, Insightful)

amirl (813941) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353567)

I guess they consider solitaire.

In other news (1)

ArtanisDTS (1005001) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353655)

64 percent of all shoes sold are to men...and 47 percent of all statistics are made up.
I find it hard to believe the sample they surveyed are an accurate representation of the general population. Most females I know have almost no interest in gaming at all.

It's going to have to take alot of grannies playing poker and solitaire to make up that 64%.

Re:Gamers? (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354327)

Insightful? Some mod *both* missed the joke and thought they might have done that (no: they only judged from online games).

90% of gaming girls are guys playing girls (5, Interesting)

RubberDogBone (851604) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353569)

Dunno about everybody else but most of the girls I meet in chatrooms and online games are guys playing as girls. Some of the rest are Dateline plants trolling for men, but that's not my thing.

Anyway, what's the Second Life slang for guys playing as girls? Gurlz or something?

Many actual Real Life(TM) girls play as male game characters so they won't get hit on or bothered.

I play mail and female characters in SL. The guy character gets left alone except by sex workers who want to sell him their wares. He's much like the real me and fairly boring to game with.

The girl character, who is not at all like me, has an incredibly active social thing going on and has accumulated dozens of friends without even trying. She's fun to play because she's so different from me. But she does get hit on all the time just because she appears to be female. It's common for complete strangers to walk up and make all sorts of rather forward comments.

My guy character gets none of that.

I have a new appreciation for some of the hassle girls go through.

Re:90% of gaming girls are guys playing girls (0, Redundant)

RubberDogBone (851604) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353589)

Yes, I play MAIL characters. SUE ME. DUH. Been typing in SL too much. My mind is gone. LOL OMG

Re:90% of gaming girls are guys playing girls (3, Insightful)

EotB (964562) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353591)

Being in New Zealand and playing a Half-Life mod called Natural Selection at clan level showed me what a large and tight-knit community can be behind an online game. I had met about half of the people that I played with regularly in real life, and the rest I had spent a lot of time talking to over voice comms. Out of perhaps 60 people, 2 of them were women. Even if FPS' are biased towards male players, thats still pretty indicative of any non-MMO games that I've played.

Re:90% of gaming girls are guys playing girls (1)

Knossos (814024) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354009)

Agreed. I've been playing an MMORPG called EvE Online for over 2 years now. In all the hundreds of people I've talked to on teamspeak (in the alliances i've been in there can be 60+ people in a teamspeak channel at any one time) I've only come heard two women.

Of course, that can't be considered global figures for EvE because you have to be a certain mindset to want to live in the more dangerous areas of space.

Re:90% of gaming girls are guys playing girls (2, Funny)

jacksonj04 (800021) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353859)

I've found the fact you can change your gender by dropping a new body in from your inventory to be quite worrying.

Re:90% of gaming girls are guys playing girls (4, Insightful)

syousef (465911) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354213)

I have a new appreciation for some of the hassle girls go through.

Fuck this pseudo sensative snag bullshit. It doesn't matter to me now as I'm no longer single and failing one of us dieing I can see this relationship lasting. But oh to have had such hassles! Girls get lots of offers - many not very good ones, but some good - without having to work for it. Guys have to work very hard and often the girls go for good looking fucktards that treat them like dirt. (Yep men do this too - go for the bimbo that treats them like shit, but not as often, and the bottom line is it's much easier for a female to find a suitable partner, and they usually get a wide selection)

So girls get hit on. If the guy's unpleasant how hard is it to say "fuck off and leave me alone you small dicked loser". Many guys will get the hint if dropped on them like a sledgehammer. There might be a little bit of unpleasantness back but few stalk based on one conversation. If a girl's in an environment where it goes beyond a few lewd comments she should get out. Only when that isn't possible is there a real problem. But there's a world of difference between being hit on and being assaulted.

Re:90% of gaming girls are guys playing girls (1)

Tim Browse (9263) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354621)

If a girl's in an environment where it goes beyond a few lewd comments she should get out.

Doesn't seem fair if the environment in question is, for example, where she works. Maybe it's just me, though.

Re:90% of gaming girls are guys playing girls (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354721)

It's a Nielsen survey. They don't just pull up a list of screen names and count how many appear to be female. The data is collected through a questionaire. It's still possible that people lie (as with any survey), but since the survey is not directly connected to online personnas, there's no reason for somebody to lie on the questoinairre even if they do play as a female for extra attention.

Re:90% of gaming girls are guys playing girls (1)

dcam (615646) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355303)

I play mail and female characters in SL.

How do you play a mail character? Do you get to deliver the post?

There you have it!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16353587)

Even women think reality sucks!

Now get a life and join the WoW online sensation before we all murder you!

Questionable Statistic (1)

JPriest (547211) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353665)

Where ever there is a questionable statistic, Slashdot is right behind it.


PS. Isn't the higher number of male gamers one of the reasons people claim males are the majority in the IT industry?

Re:Questionable Statistic (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353875)

Nope. The IT industry is a lot older than online gaming and it has *always* been male dominated.

I've met precisely 1 female programmer in my life.. couldn't predict the percentage on that but it's 1%.

Re:Questionable Statistic (1)

jftitan (736933) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354559)

I'm not objecting to your comment, but I would say, times are changing.

As with the basis of this slashdot poll, I think the problem with most is this statistic, that this bases everything on a broad range of games. While the slashdot community assumes they are talking about actual gamers. ie: men vs women, with high-end gaming rigs playing MMOs, FPS, or RTS. Not box puzzle, like games. The problem here is we consider 'gamer' to be on the level of owning a gaming rig, and competing in MMOs, FPS, etc...

As your comment goes, times are changing. The last office I worked at, we had 4 female programmers, and 2 male programmers. Still the ratio was more men, because of everyone in the office, we also had 5 more male IT staff members(non-programmers). 7/4 males are still dominating. But this company was a upstart software company. Who knows how many more upstarts, or existing companies have more female IT employees than male. With the short time with this upstart company, I encountered two female IT business owners.

Times ARE changing... what are we MEN supposed to do when we are dominated by our puzzle playing overlords?

Definition Needed (3, Insightful)

Jekler (626699) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353677)

It really depends on how you define the term "gamer". To many people, a "gamer" isn't just someone who happens to play games at some arbitrary point in their free time, it's someone whose primary hobby is playing games. When they're not working, studying, or otherwise busy, they're reading about games, playing games, or otherwise involved in game-related activities (e.g. posting on game message boards, designing characters, planning on the next game to buy, etc.). I know a lot of women who play games, but I wouldn't call them gamers. Even though they play games, when they're not playing games they don't immerse themselves in game-related activities, they have a distinct separation between game playing and the rest of their life.

Re:Definition Needed (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16353717)

shut up

Re:Definition Needed (4, Funny)

daranz (914716) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353751)

While we're at it, we need to define the word "female," as it's used online.

Re:Definition Needed (1)

James Fleming (994257) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353753)

It really depends on how you define the term "gamer". To many people, a "gamer" isn't just someone who happens to play games at some arbitrary point in their free time, it's someone whose primary hobby is playing games.

I think this is an excellent point, actually. I daresay most girls/women have picked up an XboX or PS2 controller at some point in their lives, but that doesn't make them gamers. Still, there are a few who game as a hobby, and in future it may be that there will be a fairly even split between men and women when it comes to gaming.

Either way, I think we need to lose the whole 'nerdy schoolboy gamer' stereotype.

In Other News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16353701)

BREAKING NEWS

90% of Online Gamers Are Fat Hairy Mail Truckers Pretending To Be Teenage Girls

http://verkiezingen2006.nl/ [verkiezingen2006.nl]

Re:In Other News (1)

slughead (592713) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354423)

90% of Online Gamers Are Fat Hairy Mail Truckers Pretending To Be Teenage Girls

Yes, they're gross-looking postal workers, but are they chicks or dudes?

Welcome to the internet... (1)

tehSpork (1000190) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353709)

The Internet is the only place where: Men are really Women Women are really Men And the children are really the FBI I doubt that figure is anywhere close to an accurate representation of the "real numbers" if the number of female gamers I know is any indicator. :(

Re:Welcome to the internet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16354261)

Dammit! I knew there was a fatal flaw in my plan. I'm going to have to hit on the guys who are actually girls. (You know, the girls who play as guys.) I have a feeling this is going to go awkwardly at first...most 70% of my pickup lines don't align with the male atonomy.

yeah right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16353733)

yeah, right. I game on xbox live and judging by the voices I hear on the headset at best 10% of gamers are female.

Re:yeah right (1)

aichpvee (631243) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353863)

And 100% of the 45-year-old+ crowd still lives in their mom's basement.

Re:yeah right (0, Troll)

TrappedByMyself (861094) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353951)

And 100% of the 45-year-old+ crowd still lives in their mom's basement.

And mom still pays the bills which accounts for the high number of women.

"YOUR NOT A GIRL" (1)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353739)

Real life vs Internet [gprime.net]

fakegirl:Soo big boy, I..
Red:You're not a girl!
fakegirl:What! Ofcourse I am!
Red:A REAL girl?
bystander:Who's a girl?
bystander:I like girls!
Red:Shut up you!
fakegirl:Yes, I am really a girl.. tee hee hee

How to conduct this study! (2, Interesting)

eebra82 (907996) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353765)

I have a vague idea about how they conducted this study.

1) www.mirc.com
2) install
3) /s irc.efnet.org
4) /j world-of-warcraft
5) /say So how many of you guys are women?
6) count the results

Seriously, though. I don't doubt these results at all, but I would love to see the figures of hours spent per week and compare it between the sexes. The results would surely favor men to be the biggest users.

So does anyone know how many female gamers we have in a game like World of Warcraft? I'm sure the numbers stated above are taken from flash based games and alike.

Re:How to conduct this study! (2, Interesting)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354025)

Would have been better if they actually LINKED to the study, instead of this lame 4 paragraph story that provided almost no more info than the /. summary.

Pretty weak stuff to be on the front page of /. if you substantiate it with more data.

64% of Online Gamers Are Female (2, Funny)

nutt98 (961257) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353781)

64% of online gamers play Hello Kitty Island Adventure. Coincidence?

Re:64% of Online Gamers Are Female (1)

servognome (738846) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353795)

64% of online gamers play Hello Kitty Island Adventure. Coincidence?

Go buy World of Warcraft, install it on your computer, and join the online sensation before we all murder you.

That game is for girls??? (1)

YellowFellow (995078) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355469)

Oh crap. What am I doing? It was so fun and addictive,

I guess I still have Roller Rescue to play...

Women and Poker (0, Troll)

ztransform (929641) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353807)

I believe online poker is quite popular with woman; they are able to play it anonymously without the feelings of intimidation they would probably receive in a face-to-face environment. There are so many egotistical overbearing men in real life is it any wonder that online anonymity would be popular with girls, from dating sites where men can't grab their asses, to online gaming where they can pretend they are men..?

Neither figure is surprising... (2, Interesting)

MrOuija_AK (918277) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353853)

Women playing online games at a greater rate than men makes sense to me. Every woman I've known, no matter how much she avoids video games in general, will play Tetris for hours on end. The flash puzzle games all over the web are exactly what women like to play. While men may be playing online, they're sticking to MMORPGs, FPS and RTS. And for the other figure mentioned: 8% of gamers being 45+ doesn't seem that outlandish to me. The first video games came out in the early 70's. A 45 year old today would have been 11 when Pong came out. The number of "old" people playing video games will probably see a dramatic increase over the coming years, about the time the Nintendo generation hits 45+.

Re:Neither figure is surprising... (5, Funny)

Xiph (723935) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354761)

It's rather funny that women are playing with bricks and logic, while men are playing with dolls and avatars

Re:Neither figure is surprising... (1)

DigitalSorceress (156609) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355129)

That was quite possibly the funniest post I've seen on Slashdot all week. My sides are still hurting. Thank you.

MMORPG (1)

infofc (979172) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353923)

I would say that 20% of the people playing MMO's are women. IRL that is. So flash games must be like 90% female gamers.

I knew i was spending to much time away from my pc (3, Funny)

guysmilee (720583) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353955)

I knew i was spending to much time away from my pc ...

They're all playing Sudoku (3, Informative)

tomhath (637240) | more than 7 years ago | (#16353969)

The study isn't about RPG players; it includes games like crossword puzzles, Boggle, and Sudoku. So I believe the 64% number.

What I find interesting (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16354001)

Is how many under males under 24 frequent Digg

This was done by a company that prides itself on accurracy and is taken seriously by every major corporation out there vying for the consumer "entertainment" dollar.

Somehow, reality being what it is, you having stupid kneejerk prejudices does not make them true. Thanksfully.

I know a huge share of the market is pre-family, and most of those are male. But in the post-family crowd, the target audience of said company, many more women play things that the pubecent crowd would not believe them capable of.

Personally I know 11 women who play WoW, 3 who play EQ2, and 8 who play BF2 religeously. Somehow I find these numbers might actually be low. But I'll take them at face value.

.

Re:What I find interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16354015)

Interesting, but you might have made a mistake, except I agree, Digg=Slash=Digg.... har

Re:What I find interesting (1)

DaSniper (927430) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354077)

My input is that those 64% are majority MMO players such as WoW players. I base this off the fact that in my guild on WoW we have a total of 24 women that are active in Teamspeak and we are in an alliance with another guild that has about 10 women in their Vent day in and day out. I don't find it uncommon to find women that game. Heck half of the women I know on a friendship bases (which in honesty is only about 40 or so) play some game depending on console or MMO. My Ex and two of her friends play CounterStrike Source (Nicole, Elaine, and Nikki) as hardcore Clan based gamers... And I can honestly say I get beat in a game by a girl. So I don't think the statistic is wrong I just think to many people live in places like California, Florida, and New York, and not enough if Minnesota where I seem to find gaming chicks all the time.

I could've told you that. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16354151)

Most players are pussies.

Some will get it, some will see a troll; I'll have to take that chance:)

Yup (1)

ericartman (955413) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354171)

From my experience in WoW and FFxI, this seems about right. And no, I am not talking about avatars but my experience in both games using vent,so unless some people are faking voices out there on a steady basis the percentage seems right on. Also the percentage of us old folk playing I always guessed at about 10%. BTW all bets are off for Xmas and spring breaks when the younger set absolutely overwhelm the games. Ecartman

No. (1)

misey (996068) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354239)

If you're talking MMORPGs or Half Life offshoots like CounterStrike or Day of Defeat, or any other first person shooter like that; No. Maybe 5 out of 50 gamers in that sense are female. Those are the only online games. I don't care what you say. I don't care what survey results you have. And those are the chicks you stay away from most of the time. How many women pay attention to Slashdot?

You'd be surprised. (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355509)

That may not be what this study is about, but I'd estimate far more than 5 out of 50. I would guess they tend to avoid you, though.

Not so bad (2, Funny)

Digital Vomit (891734) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354313)

Okay, so you're saying that there's a 36% percent chance that the hot female night elf I cybered with last night was really a man?

"With a name like 'Cryinggam', I figured she just needed a little comforting!"

Yeah well (1)

Aceticon (140883) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354325)

On WoW, most sexilly claded female dark elves characters had (teenage) masculine voices whenever we got them on teamspeak ...

Wouldn't the correct title be: (2, Insightful)

traveller604 (961720) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354349)

64% of US online gamers are female. That is unless you think only americans play online..

More than one third of the U.S. pop is a gamer? (1)

Fantastic Lad (198284) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354351)

Given that the U.S. is such a major center of power on the Earth's surface, attempting to dictate reality for much of the globe, doesn't it alarm anybody that more than a third of its population lives such a large portion of their waking hours in deliberately false realities?

--Which doesn't necessarily say much for everybody who isn't a gamer, given that something like 95% of the population are also TV addicts.

Dream on.


-FL

Re:More than one third of the U.S. pop is a gamer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16354961)

im addicted to my own dong like you are... lolol

Proof it.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16354357)

TITS OR GTFO

Online gaming not gaming in general (2, Insightful)

Aceticon (140883) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354385)

Jokes about female avatars being all men aside, it's quite possible that this result is true. However this is only for online gaming, not gaming in general.

Given that on average women tend to be more adept of social activities than men (at least that's my experience), it isn't surprising at all that women go for games where they are in contact with other people.

In my long experience with online RPGs (from MUDs all the way to WoW and Guild Wars), women (as in confirmed women ;)) would spend a lot more time chatting than men (which tended more often to go exploring and slaying monsters).

Online gaming is usually more appropriated to socializing (pretty much the only exception being FPSs and RTSs) than offline gaming (unless you invite your buddies over for a session of drinking and blasting each other out with RPGs ;))

If your mother's anyhting like mine... (4, Interesting)

svunt (916464) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354561)

Then Yahoo! Games and pogo.com are the only things stopping her from harrassing you for yet another crack for yet another Mah-Jong game.

While this might attract some males ... (1)

Toon Moene (883988) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354583)

... I most certainly am not interested in women shooting up other people, period.

Re:While this might attract some males ... (1)

Raelus (859126) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355433)

Well, those women aren't interested in guys shooting up other people, period.

Or did you already give up in that area?

Still Not News (1)

FeldBum (933176) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354633)

Everytime one of these studies comes out, its "big news" all over again. WildTangent did a study and got the same results 5 years ago. Those of us in the online gaming industry have been using "Females First" as our mantra when we design or market online games for the past decade.

Real numbers. (1)

agent (7471) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354833)

20% AI/Computer 4% transsexual, 60% male, 26% female!
I know that is 110%, but I always give 110%. That is right folks, I do the impossible!

FUD (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 7 years ago | (#16354905)

This should be tagged FUD. Its another useless study that tells us nothing. As its been pointed out repeatedly: No mention of hours played, games played, etc. The article even mentions that. From the article:
The study's announcement release doesn't break down what games they're playing, though we expect sites like pogo.com, which feature a multitude of Flash-based, more simplistic games, are rather high on the list. Even more surprising is how many older gamers are playing. While the teenage market dominates in numbers, the study says more than 15 million gamers, about 8%, are actually at least 45 years old.

I don't see why they're surprised that it shows more old people playing. They've already indicated they realized the study is missing some crucial information and thus flawed.

A follow-on study has found ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16355131)

...that the online gaming skill of the males has now dropped significantly, as though one hand is now continually preoccupied.

Hassling people cause of how they appear (1)

ContractualObligatio (850987) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355265)

There's already several comments here about the hassle women and/or female avatars receive. I'd just like to say, as a Scotsman who wears a kilt on occasion, that women are also a pain in the neck when they encounter someone of the opposite sex in a skirt. Men by and large have learnt not to try and put their hands up someone's skirt. Yes, I know men do this, but seriously women are worse.

Although men probably complain less when they think the kilt-lifting woman is attractive. Reciprocity is a wonderful thing. Beats trading insults as a way of flirting...

The truth about women (1)

tomgeller (1010795) | more than 7 years ago | (#16355407)

My wife is a real gambler and sport addict I see her all the time posting at sport communities like Digg and allaboutsport.info
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