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A Lot of Money for Playing Games

samzenpus posted more than 7 years ago | from the professional-minesweeper dept.

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knowhow writes "Tom Taylor took the risk of dropping out from high school just to play video games. The guy who is just 18 years old, was prompted to take this step; because of the reason that emerged from his love for gaming. After playing for six months on a full time basis the guy signed a contract for a staggering $250,000." From the Article:"Now Tom taylor is known as Tsquared on the gaming circuit. He's earning six figures and has product endorsements and a video game tutoring business. He's one of about 100 professional gamers associated with Major League Gaming, a video gaming league founded in 2002. When they're playing well, pros might bring home a few grand a month."

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When the money dries up... (3, Informative)

JoeCommodore (567479) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404063)

I wonder in what situation he will be, he better be working on a backup skill.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

Mavric1337 (845283) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404075)

If that happens let's hope he learns to invest.

Re:When the money dries up... (3, Insightful)

MaXiMiUS (923393) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404129)

I was actually listening on the radio, about this guy that had retired at 34, because he had invested in Crest®, or maybe it was Colgate®.. Anyways, he was making 3 grand a month just from dividends apparently, which is quite a bit for (correct me if I'm wrong) tax-free money. Anybody that chooses not to invest is probably going to regret it, nomatter what their line of work is.

Re:When the money dries up... (4, Informative)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404297)

If you have a significant chunk of change in any set of stocks that pay qualified dividends (tax free), anyone can make $3,000 a month (or more likely, $9,000 every quarter) to live on. That's what a lot of rich people do. That's what senior citizens do after saving for 30 or 40 years. That's what I'm in my Roth IRA (although I'm years away from pulling three grand a month in dividends). Nothing magical about it. Unfortunately, a lot of kids just don't get it that there's more to life beyond today.

Re:When the money dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404475)

or you could work for the government. My dad works for the state (NJ) and after 30 years he can retire with a pension of about $3k a month after taxes and of course with full health care. However such pension plans will be a thing of the past in 10 years. Today everyone gets 401ks and/or IRAs which is pretty much betting your retirement on the stock market and your investor. Then of course there is social security... pfft.

Re:When the money dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404541)

Heh PERS is quite nice. I know a cal trans guy who retired at 101% of salary (he was actually *losing* money by working). Bastards ended up rounding it down to 100 in the end, though.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404637)

Heh, well I don't know about government, but for private company pension funds, the money came from company investments anyway, so you were betting your retirement on the stock market and the financial health of the company. Also, when you died, your family was left with nothing. At least if you invest in a 401k and IRAs your family can get whatever is left in the account.

Re:When the money dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16405131)

PERS can transfer to your spouse. So uh...yea. And it doesn't fluctuate based on anything after you retire (salary, years employed using pers and age of retirement are the only real factors). The caltrans example retired in his early 50s and has a wife (so she'll get it after he dies). Government offers some killer benefits, if you're willing to toss all imagination and higher thinking processes out the door for the rest of your career. It favors the lazy, but all are welcome.

Re:When the money dries up... (3, Interesting)

Nyph2 (916653) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404783)

"Unfortunately, a lot of kids just don't get it that there's more to life beyond today"

Unfortunately you don't get there's a lot more to life than money. Money is a means to various services. Everyone needs to contribute to society in order to draw on the services of society. For those who no longer work, it's simply saying you've payed your dues(in the form of time) to society equivalent to those which you're drawing back from society.

To get those IRAs or dividends to the degree which you did, if you did it without advancing some field in a unique way, you had to work over 40 hours a week, had to work for the bulk of your life, or skimped and saved as much as theoretically possible. If you advanced an underdeveloped field, you benefitted society enough to deseve what you're getting*. If you worked significantly over 40 hours a week (unless you were one of the lucky few who truely enjoy their job) or if you skimped & saved every penny you could, imo you wasted a portion of your life... for possible returns. Albiet if you've reached the point of retirement those have payed off to a degree, but you're putting a down payment in either case, of significantly decreased short term enjoyment(which is guaranteed) for the chance or it paying off later. (what I mean by chance is both the method of investment, which carries risk, as well as the odds of survival for the # of years till it really pays off)

*undeveloped fields are systems which have not been fully developed, but are of benifit to society. Those who understand these systems both work them to their advantage as well as benifit the field to the gain of society as a whole.

-

There is no free lunch. There is no easy answer. IRA's, skimping and saving, or even comprehending a field which no one else does, these have costs(personal) or benifits(societally) which end up resulting in retirement at some earlier than otherwise possible point/a more comfortable retirement. But they're not free, dont delude yourself into thinking that. You payed for that money/month.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

iocat (572367) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404951)

scrimp now, live comfortably later, or spend now and eat dog food later... the difference is, LATER I can't work if I change my mind.

Re:When the money dries up... (4, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16405015)

Considering that I'm planning to live to be 120, and will be into my fourth or fifth career by the time I retire at 100, I don't have a problem with this. Why retire at 30 and waste your life for the next 90 years?

Re:When the money dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404917)

If you have a significant chunk of change in any set of stocks that pay qualified dividends (tax free), anyone can make $3,000 a month (or more likely, $9,000 every quarter) to live on.
So, you've uncovered the secret that anybody with a sufficiently large chunk of change can live off of it. Thank god you were here to explain that to us mere mortals, because we would have never figured it out on our own. You should become a financial planner and share your genious with the world.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16405033)

The best part is that you got my advice for free. Next time, pay the piper. :P

Re:When the money dries up... (4, Insightful)

The Wooden Badger (540258) | more than 7 years ago | (#16405001)

But the problem is that this type of person generally is more interested in having the toys than the security. Some people can get away with it because they are content in a smaller house with a reasonable car that joe public can afford. Throw the big bucks at many others and they start thinking pimped Escalades and stuff from Cribs.

Re:When the money dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404341)

For every winner there is a loser. Technically, 1.0001+ losers after broker fees.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404579)

If you invest for increase in value, yes. If you invest for dividends, no. The company just needs to make money then.

Re:When the money dries up... (4, Insightful)

Frogbert (589961) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404113)

Yes I'm sure someone handling their own expensive sponsership deals, complex contracts and his own business would have no marketable skills outside of playing quake.

Re:When the money dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404343)

Actually I believe he has a publicist / agent. Those are really only useful when you are famous, so if his skillset consists of only 1) playing video games, and 2) interacting with his publicist / agent, he's screwed.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

drsquare (530038) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404503)

What exactly is the marketable skill in signing a contract that says 'give me loads of money'?

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

Korin43 (881732) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404851)

Possibly the fact that he has piles of cash and people recognize him. Look at John Elways. Who thinks "What kind of car-selling skills do you get from playing football?" but the point is that he had so much money that it doesn't matter.

When slashdot dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404121)

Couldn't the same be said for all of us? What happens if IT "dries up"?

Re:When slashdot dries up... (2, Funny)

XNine (1009883) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404167)

Then the few of us who actually have real girlfriends are left to die alone?

Re:When the money dries up... (2, Insightful)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404131)

Assuming he didn't tell his high school teachers to kiss his shiny rich ass on the way out, he should go knocking on Harvard's door for an education. He can afford it and money talks at that school. Although I'm not sure if the blue bloods will want a prize-winning video game player in their midst. MIT or Stanford might take him. And then write a book.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

nessus42 (230320) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404583)

MIT or Stanford might take him.
Yeah, after he gets 1500 on his SAT scores.

|>oug

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404605)

Yeah, after he gets 1500 on his SAT scores.

yeah... or writes a large check... if he's got the cash, he can get in just about anywhere...

Re:When the money dries up... (2, Insightful)

nessus42 (230320) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404663)

I've never met anyone who got into MIT on the basis of money. And even if they somehow did, they'd flunk out the first semester if they weren't really damned smart and already had an excellent high-school level education.

|>oug

Re:When the money dries up... (4, Funny)

camperdave (969942) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404717)

I'm sure he can probably play SAT long enough to get his score up to 1500.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

Ichigo Kurosaki (886802) | more than 7 years ago | (#16405221)

You do know that the top score today is 2400?

Re:When the money dries up... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404169)

It would take me seven years to make that much money. Maybe I should worry about what to do since my money dries up before each month ends. You make it sound like he won't have a job after the $250,000. With the current trend of video games I might say his job is more secure than a lot of people I know.

Re:When the money dries up... (2, Insightful)

HappySqurriel (1010623) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404267)

Seven years? Man you need a better job ...

Anyways, the problem with a competition of this nature is that you can make a lot of money as long as you're at the top of your game. For every person in this league there is (probably) 100 people who are nearly as good and (if they so choose) could easily start challenging you for your spot in the league. In other words you always are at risk of not being good enough to keep your 'job'.

Growing up, I knew a few guys who ended up becomming professional snowboarders; they lasted about 18 months before their sponsership and were 'forced' out. I imagine that, if gaming continues as a 'sport', professional-gamers will have to 'train' for 8 hours a day to stay competitive.

IT may be an insecure field, but I doubt all the jobs will dry up all of a sudden. Much like the gamer in the article, if you feel that your job isn't that secure you should train some skills that are useful both inside and outside of IT (say public speaking) and save up your money in case you suddenly find yourself without a job; this is easily said, and can be accomplished, but rarely will an 18 year old recognize how good he has it until it is gone.

Re:When the money dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404319)

A better job would be nice. But actually where I live, $40K a year is not bad, especially for reading slashdot most of my time on the clock.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

andersvirtualsolutio (986833) | more than 7 years ago | (#16405063)

If i only had a dollar for each time i started up Quake3 i would be rich - that game ate some of my most productive school years ;)

Re:When the money dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404703)

I make that in 12 years =\.

How about ... (2, Interesting)

vlad_petric (94134) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404241)

Game tester. It's not really that fun (playing same games repeatedly until they're balanced/stable enough), but he's got the skills.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

protich (961854) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404303)

What is your backup skill if I cut off your fingers? Or you go blind?? ( assuming you are a dev)

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404593)

Braile screen readers. I had a blind guy in my CS classes.

For the fingers- type 1 handed. Or use voice recognition software.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

benplaut (993145) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404697)

Counter Strike 'classes'? Incredible! Sign me up, folks!
(It's a JOKE, people!!)

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

supabeast! (84658) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404331)

I wonder in what situation he will be, he better be working on a backup skill.


Given the money he's making, he'll have no trouble putting himself through college to pick up a backup skill after the funding for pro gaming has dried up.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

Reservoir Penguin (611789) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404353)

He could get a CS degree...that would guarantee him a good life.. oh, wait...

Re:When the money dries up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404405)

U mean a Degree is Counterstrike; Where do I enroll?

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

Omnifarious (11933) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404937)

Why are you certain that the money will dry up? Do you mean for the profession, or for him personally as he gets older and his reflexes aren't as good? Maybe he'll go on to games where reflexes aren't that important. I don't think the assumption that the money will dry up is necessarily a good one. It's good to hedge against, but that's good advice no matter what you do.

Re:When the money dries up... (2, Funny)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 7 years ago | (#16405127)

Hell, maybe he'll be a game coach. There are people who actually make money that way.

Re:When the money dries up... (1)

suntac (252438) | more than 7 years ago | (#16405167)

True true, when the money dries up he will be having a problem,... however as he is getting so much experience right now from playing the game he can always start helping to develop them. Think about that he could become a consultant in a game company giving developers advice on the best way to develop the interaction between player and computer.

I think he will be in the gaming industry for a long time, maybe not as a star player but he will have a role in the development. At least that is what I am thinking about it.

Regards,
Johan Louwers.

Women (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404069)

I suppose that, unlike actual sports leagues, Major League Gaming doesn't have to worry about sex party scandals.

Re:Women (4, Funny)

From A Far Away Land (930780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404271)

"Major League Gaming doesn't have to worry about sex party scandals"

Are you kidding? All they have to do is install the Hot Coffee Mod, and lawyers like Jack T. will be on them like the FBI on a criminal driven tank.

Rating (4, Informative)

Kangburra (911213) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404087)

Major League Gaming [mlgpro.com] shows he's not even the best! :-(

Re:Rating (1)

Barny (103770) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404235)

Hrmm, he is 8th in halo2. what else does he play pro? well, according to his score sheet, nothing.

Fatal1ty (1)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404135)

I wonder if Fatal1ty makes more?
Sorry HTML skills suck
http://www.fatal1ty.com/ [fatal1ty.com]

YANKEES DID 9/11 JUNIOR (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404147)

YANKEES DID 9/11 JUNIOR!

Reminds me of poker (3, Insightful)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404163)

Obviously the youngun's have the advantage when it comes to twitch style video gaming, but this seems very reminscent of poker, where you can make aliving playing if you're good enough, but not many people are that good.

As for the people who say "what's his backup skill going to be?" Assuming he can talk & isn't butt ugly, I imagine he'll be a commentator or spokesperson someday.

Hell, if there's enough drama in the industry, he can write a book too.

Ah, Superstar Economics. (4, Insightful)

Rachel Lucid (964267) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404175)

We may as well talk about the guys who drop out of school to play basketball...

Too much of a good thing? (4, Insightful)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404219)

Everyone always talks about wanting to get a job where they get paid to do what they enjoy, but I tend to wonder if maybe you'd get burned out of doing something that you enjoy as a pastime, if you had to start doing it for 8, 10 or 12 hours a day. (Okay, admittedly there are WoW players who seem to have no problems there.)

There are lots of things that I enjoy in moderation that I don't think I'd like anymore, if I started doing them as my day job. Maybe it's just me...but I just think that playing games for a living might take the fun out of it.

I guess maybe this is because I enjoy playing games as a way to relax, and I guess I wouldn't want to play them more than a few hours a day, regardless of the other constraints on my time.

Re:Too much of a good thing? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404289)

Yeah, tell me about it. I used to love programming. Until I started doing it for a living.

Keeping your eye on the prize... (1)

msimm (580077) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404633)

I think this is a common situation and a common misunderstanding. Just because you like something doesn't mean you like it under any circumstance. Why would it? Maybe you like doing something at *your* pace, but don't like it so much when you have to hassle or keep deadlines. Thinking about what you really would like to do is a pretty complicated prospect and I suspect most of us don't actually achieve it. Such is life.

But its short-sightedness that probably brings a lot of us to it. Probably a bit of lack of imagination and bills too. :)

Re:Too much of a good thing? (1)

Enigma1625 (544974) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404659)

The thing is that a lot of the best pro gamers out there (at least for the FPS games which I am most familiar with; eg. Q4) only play a couple of hours a day and simply have enough talent and experience to be able to win tournaments on a regular basis. Pro gaming can be a part time job as well. If I remember correctly, a couple of years ago when Paul Nelson (aka "czm") was most active in Quake 3, he was also a math student at Princeton.

Nice "editing" (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404173)

I'm not usually one to complain about the editors, but come on.

The guy who is just 18 years old, was prompted to take this step; because of the reason that emerged from his love for gaming.

Set that poor semicolon free! It doesn't deserve to be cooped up in that horrible excuse for a sentence! The semicolon is a beautiful creature that can only be appreciated in its natural habitat: a sentence containing two full independent clauses. Or certain lists.

Re:Nice "editing" (3, Funny)

prichardson (603676) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404375)

"a sentence containing two full independent clauses. Or certain lists."

That should read: 'a sentence containing two full independent clauses or certain lists.'

There was no reason to separate those thoughts. It made the flow of your prose awkward. I must refer you to the old saying about glass houses and accusations. :-)

Re:Nice "editing" (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404403)

That semicolon is only one of the many problems with that sentence. I re-read it and my mind is left in a jumble: 18 year old guy, something prompted him to take some step, reason emerged from love of gaming... what?!?

Re:Nice "editing" (1)

Zugok (17194) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404479)

The semi-colon is my friend; grandparent post was a poor example of its usage.

Re:Nice "editing" (1)

teknomage1 (854522) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404591)

That's nothing, think of all the poor semicolons stuck delimiting Perl code!

Re:Nice "editing" (1)

megaditto (982598) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404833)

Or asking a Congress page about her penis size ;-)

One thing is for certain: there is no stopping the (0, Offtopic)

Neoncow (802085) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404189)

I, for one, welcome our new video gaming celebrities.

Re:One thing is for certain: there is no stopping (1)

edward2020 (985450) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404239)

I wonder who he's dating.... Maybe E! can cover this in one of the their hard hitting investigative reports. I bet he's a scientologist too!

What what what what what?? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404437)

How dare you slander good name Scientology! Not even capitalize Scientology! You free fair game now buddy junior. We suck you brains out with super power, sue you all you money, and bump rudely into you whilst in street! Maybe even in that order! Bet you sorry now!

What? (5, Funny)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404247)

>> The guy who is just 18 years old, was prompted to take this step; because of the reason that emerged from his love for gaming.

Say that again, but not in Klingon.

Re:What? (4, Funny)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404367)

Now how can we argue with that. I think we are all indebted to Gabby Johnson here for clearly stating what had to be said. And I'm glad the children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish...but it expressed a courage that is little seen in this day and age.

Re:What? (1)

rts008 (812749) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404421)

Good one!

(I don't have mod points)

Re:What? (1)

dozer (30790) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404547)

Rrrrabr!

Grammar! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404253)

The guy who is just 18 years old, was prompted to take this step; because of the reason that emerged from his love for gaming.

... *weeping*

Re:Grammar! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404779)

LOLJEWS, The oven for you.

Don't quit your dream job (5, Funny)

MemeSpitter (781288) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404283)

"The guy who is just 18 years old, was prompted to take this step; because of the reason that emerged from his love for gaming."
"... do not use semicolons. They are transvestite hermaphrodites, standing for absolutely nothing. All they do is show you've been to college." -- Kurt Vonnegut
Or, if you must, at least avoid using if you haven't the foggiest idea of where to put them (such as, say, between two independent clauses). All that does is show you've dropped out of high school to play video games.

Re:Don't quit your dream job (2, Funny)

lullabud (679893) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404667)

if you must, at least avoid using if you haven't the foggiest idea of where to put them

print "Such as at the end of the line rather than in the middle.\n" ;

I'm waiting.... (1)

Tinman_au (1004053) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404293)

....for the Reality TV show that will be based on the Barbie Diary Mysteries pro circut.

I'll finally have the perfect reason to abandon an outdated entertainment medium and move on the the net full time...

Gambling with his future... (5, Insightful)

jorghis (1000092) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404357)

I cant even count the number of people I knew when I was in college who threw away the chance to become succesfull engineers (I went to an engineering school) to play WoW/Everquest/Counterstrike 15 hours a day. For every guy like this who makes a career out of gaming there are hundreds of thousands who give up their careers because they spend too much time playing video games.

Spending the enourmous amount of time required to be good at video games is a worse investment than a lottery ticket. Lottery tickets have had more winners, require less time investment, and the payoff is a lot bigger than 250 grand.

Yes, I realize that a lot of people play video games for fun and moderate their time spent well. But dont we all know people who play endlessly because they want to be the best on their server or be in a clan that wins a lot of tournaments?

Re:Gambling with his future... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404791)

I agree with you but the games you listed are poor examples of money-making games. I suppose Counterstrike would be one but a majority of the time game tournaments consist of FPS games.

College aged students that invest 15 hours/day in WoW, Everquest and Couterstrike don't deserve engineering degrees. They'll realized their mistakes once they're 35 years old, fat with bed sores, virgins and living in their mother's basement whilst waiting for the newest patch to be released.

I think a majority of the time the initial reason people play video games is for the fun factor but then it starts a domino effect. First fun, then competition, then "social" acceptance. It's probably not always in that order, in fact, I'm sure many kids these days start playing games for the "social" acceptance factor but who knows.

I just got done playing the BF2142 demo for about 3 hours but then again, I'm not in college and it was only 3 hours.

Re:Gambling with his future... (1)

pimpimpim (811140) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404979)

Or what about the people that waste their days reading slashdot comments! And this is even less profitable then a lottery ticket, as no one ever got rich with that anyways! Hmm, come to think of it ...

Players making 6 figures, so writers... (1)

Calyth (168525) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404365)

If players are somehow making 6 figures, why should the writers be making less? There's far more skill involved in writing a game than playing it, but often the developers are highschool students or university co-op making something at least an order of magnitude less than this player...

Re:Players making 6 figures, so writers... (1)

jorghis (1000092) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404399)

The developers are highschool students and university co-ops? I very much doubt that. I can imagine that there might have been a few co-ops involved with some game's development at some point as part of their recruitment program but just about every game is written by teams of professional software engineers with lots of experience. And experienced software engineers aint cheap.

Re:Players making 6 figures, so writers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404435)

when writers can get sponsorships and prize winnings, then Ill agree.

Re:Players making 6 figures, so writers... (1)

drsquare (530038) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404513)

People want to watch and sponsor people playing games. They don't want to watch or sponsor people writing games. This is a very simple concept.

Re:Players making 6 figures, so writers... (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 7 years ago | (#16405197)

Is there really that big a market for pro game sponsorring?

Personally, I'm not much of a sport afficionado, though occasionally I do like to watch a bit of sports. Games, I like a lot more, but I can't imagine ever willingly watching game competitions on TV.

And who actually buys these products endorsed by random-gamer-geek #29? It's like a basketball player endorsing a TV set, because they play better on a HD set.

Re:Players making 6 figures, so writers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404553)

More skill in writing them than playing them? You are orders of magnitude below this guy in skill at games, your character would likely not finish landing on the floor of the map (there's always a slight gap to prevent feet from getting stuck in the floor) before the round would end versus pro gamers. I'm many orders of magnitude below these guys, I would not land either, and last time I went to a major LAN to compete, 300 people showed up, and in both the CSS, CS 1.6, and even the quake III tourny, I had a cumulative death count of 2. Anyone can point and click, anyone with time can point and click with per pixel accuracy - predicting, often 5-6 steps ahead of the now, versus an intelligent, human opponent, is no different in first person shooters than it is in any board game. Designing games is no small feat either, but if you look at how many adept people go into video game design knowing full well what the pay is - and you look at how many people have any hope of approaching these guys in their field even if they devoted their lives to it (and for every one who makes it, there are perhaps hundreds of kids who play video games as a priority over school). They get paid therefore, not just for being intelligent predators (because that's exactly what athletes are) but for being RARE intelligent predators. Anyone can pull a high score on pong at a low speed, I bet if you taught a monkey the controls the loss for their intelligence would not decrease significantly compared to other humans. The real opponent however, in all games, is not the complexity of the rules of the game, but the ability of your opponent.

knowhow doesn't know how... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404385)

...to use semicolons. Or how to construct coherent sentences, for that matter.

"The guy who is just 18 years old, was prompted to take this step; because of the reason that emerged from his love for gaming."

Yikes.

There are still issues in gaming (1)

Wiarumas (919682) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404415)

There are still issues in gaming. The most extreme in my opinion would be the illegal use of steriods. We need to check all the professional gamers to see if they are using steroids. It would be a bad influence on those who are still playing as Night Elves in World of Warcraft (aka the younger crowd).

Re:There are still issues in gaming (1)

archgoon (894518) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404719)

You are mocking a very serious issue and you should be ashamed of yourself. Remember kids: Caffiene kills. :)

QA testers (1, Insightful)

lordvalrole (886029) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404423)

There are a lot of QA testers that play just as much as him if not not more and probably can woop the crap out of him in any game. It really doesn't take that much talent to play video games, you just got to spend time figuring out what the developers where thinking.

Re:QA testers (3, Funny)

bunions (970377) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404689)

That doesn't really explain why John Carmack lost his Ferarri. I mean, unless JC was confused about what he was thinking at the time. Lord knows it happens to the best of us.

a few grand a month, eh? (2, Insightful)

Khyber (864651) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404433)

"When they're playing well, pros might bring home a few grand a month."

Hell yea, where's the Enemy Territory tourneys with the money? C'mon guys, don't neglect good and free for everyone games! Let's see who rocks the free-world for the most cash!

How sad (4, Insightful)

nlawalker (804108) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404447)

It seems a shame to take a recreational activity that you love and make it your sole source of income.

Yes, I do believe you can love your work. But this guy took a thing that he truly loved that *wasn't* work and *made it* his work. Playing games for a living sounds great, but anything loses its luster once you are chained to it if you want to eat and have a place to live.

For all you gamers, think of how excited you are when a new blockbuster game comes out and you can't wait to get your hands on it. Now take that feeling and completely invert it, and I think that that about approximates what this guy must feel when that happens. "Oh man, a new game... guess I better start getting good at this one too. Back to ten hours of practice a day."

Re:How sad (1)

drsquare (530038) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404533)

Yeah it's disgraceful that his job is actually something he enjoys. It'd be better if he cleaned toilets or something so gaming would keep its 'luster'.

Re:How sad (1)

CAIMLAS (41445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404767)

Well, if that something you love to do is to fuck, I can't really think of a better thing to get paid for (provided it's somewhere in California and there's a camera present, of course). And then you could really say, "I love my work."

Re:How sad (1)

pimpimpim (811140) | more than 7 years ago | (#16405113)

Ah, so Michael Phelps must hate swimming, Schumacher must have hated driving F1 cars, etc. etc. Ok, exaggerating here, but really, I don't see your point! As if you don't like programming in Perl anymore, just because you get paid for it! (hmm, wrong example)

wtf? (0, Redundant)

binford2k (142561) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404505)

The guy who is just 18 years old, was prompted to take this step; because of the reason that emerged from his love for gaming.

What the fuck is this supposed to mean?

I just can't see this taking off (2, Insightful)

istartedi (132515) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404511)

What would TV coverage of this look like? You can't just have a shot of the screen, but if you cut back and forth you miss screen action. They probably have to edit together a lot of highlights. I can't imagine this would be very entertaining to watch on live TV... ok, some stuff like one-on-one fighting games might play well... it would be like boxing without the chance of actual injury. Yes, I guess this could be watchable if done right. The missing element is that you aren't watching your friends get beat, or beating your friends, or well... gaming. Robot wars was OK TV because most of us don't have the time, money or skill to make a decent fighting bot. Everyone can game. When I was a kid and was totally game crazy, the time I spent having to just *watch* was pure agony. Gimme the joystick!!! How many kids these days get their only daily exercise fighting their siblings for the controller? You're going to take gaming and make it totally passive? Those kids are going to explode, leaving nasty bits of fat all over the walls. Hey... that'd be a cool effect in a game.

a video game tutoring business?? (1)

bunions (970377) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404647)

I mean, I guess it's not actually any different than going for tennis lessons, but something about that just leaves me with an overwhelming feeling of wtfness.

Weigh the options. (1, Insightful)

PDExperiment626 (1004208) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404657)

All right, so this kid got a contract for 250k; how long will he be able to get such contracts. Given the new nature of gaming, the amount of young competition, and the lack of training required, I would be surprised if he gets a follow up contract. Let's face it, to become an elite gamer requires good reflexes and an obsession with gaming; a lot more people fit this criteria as opposed to having the athletic prowess to be a professional soccer player. It also takes a lot less self-dicipline than getting into professional sports (where you also have to train outside of playing the actual game, watch your diet, etc.). In the end, professional gamers will always be more available than professional athletes; so they are going to have a very short money-generating life span. This isn't mentioning the fact that to be a professional gamer will require you staring at a screen for something like 15 hours a day. It's true many spend that much time gaming a day without getting paid; but for a professional, that's 15 hours of work. I don't know, 15 hours a day everyday for 250k a year doesn't seem like such a great deal to me. I'll take a lower salary and less time working, thanks. Maybe he will go back to school after his gaming career is over; frankly, he'll have few options if he doesn't. That being said, I have to wonder if he won't spend years gaming in futility trying to get another contract after his time has passed. Another point to consider is the affect media will have on such a profession. Let's say you've been gaming for years and have put on a few pounds or aren't the most attractive person to begin with, then someone comes along just as good as you but prettier, who's more likely to get the contract if a sponsor had to choose?

Michael Jordan (4, Funny)

Aqua OS X (458522) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404747)

"like Michael Jordan was born to play basketball. I feel like I was born to play video games." ... and to use that as an excuse to compare myself to Michael Jordan.

mDod up (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16404753)

isn't 4 lemon4de [goat.cx]

This is not a career (2, Insightful)

Jack9 (11421) | more than 7 years ago | (#16404757)

More people won MORE money playing the lottery. This type of sensationalist stuff doesn't interest most people but it keeps making headlines on /. ?
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