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Firefox Accepting Feature Suggestions for Version 3

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the i-would-like-a-pony dept.

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Krishna Dagli writes to mention an article over at Ars Technica discussing the Firefox team's call for feature suggestions. Version 3 of the software is already in the works, and the team members are looking to the community for ideas on where to go next. From the article: "The wish list is long indeed, and it provides an insight into the desires of the browser community, and a look at the open source development process. While closed-source projects often ask their user community for feedback on requested features, the process is not usually open to the public. For Firefox 3, anyone can both suggest new features and comment on other people's suggestions. The feature requests are divided into categories, such as browser customization, privacy features, security, history, download manager, and other areas. There are suggestions for features found in other competing browsers, such Safari, IE 7 beta, and Opera. IE7 seemed to be featured most prominently, with requests for "low-rights mode," as well as more cosmetic features like skins that mimic Microsoft's browser."

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slashdot first post tool (0, Redundant)

gd23ka (324741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16435965)

that is what firefox needs!

OS Logo? (5, Funny)

pdbaby (609052) | more than 7 years ago | (#16435969)

An open source logo? :-) *duck* Au revoir, monsieur karma

Re:OS Logo? (5, Interesting)

also-rr (980579) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436201)

Hello to the person who modded this down! (As overrated no less.)

The above comment is funny. In fact, it's geek humour. This being slashdot we like:

Geek humour.
Corrections to the article.
Massivly technical explanations on related subjects that enlighten us.

Things we do not like:

Moderators who are too used to Digg and mod down anything they personally don't like, even if it's factually correct and/or relevant and/or insightful humour, having the gall to cancel out the mod points of someone who, despite only getting given points every few months, still thought the comment was funny enough to mod up.

May I direct your attention to the setting which allows you to apply a penalty of -lots'o'points to anything marked as "funny" so that you personally never see anything entertaining again.

Thank you for your attention. That is all.

Re:OS Logo? (0, Offtopic)

mkoenecke (249261) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436327)

Since I'm only a geek by avocation, rather than by vocation, um... I don't get it. What's so funny about "An open source logo," other than the general idea that that would be a pointless mission-statement-ish waste of energy?

Re:OS Logo? (1)

BKX (5066) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436387)

Haven't you heard about Debian and its "Iceweasel" (Seamonkey?) debacle? If you had, and had understood its implications, the joke would have been somewhat funny.

Re:OS Logo? (5, Informative)

pdbaby (609052) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436459)

It's a reference to the trouble Debian are having with Mozilla (shall we call it the IceWeasel debacle [wikipedia.org] ?) - Debian only includes Free[tm] packages and files in their distribution, the Firefox logo isn't Free. So Debian created their own logo for firefox, and use that instead. But Mozilla don't like that, and asked them to either use the firefox logo or stop calling it firefox

number 1 request (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16435971)

ooooh. oooh. ponies!

status line (1)

rs232 (849320) | more than 7 years ago | (#16435981)

How about having system prompts popping up in tha status bar instead of popup. And put the contents of the Bookmarks on the menu at the top.

Firefox needs some work on the popup front. (4, Interesting)

krell (896769) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436073)

"How about having system prompts popping up in tha status bar instead of popup. And put the contents of the Bookmarks on the menu at the top."

In keeping with my request to allow for intuitive suppression of the nasty ""do you want to remember password for this site?" popups, they should put an option on the system prompts that you can click to make them go to the status bar from then on: "Do you want future such popups on the status bar instead?"

I love how Firefox nicely diminishes popups that come from intentional design of web programmers, but the way Firefox itself throws annoying hard-to-get rid of popups needs some work.

Microsoft Killer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16435983)

Since we know the reverse question is asked at Microsoft strategy meetings, what features can we add to Mozilla Firefox make Internet Explorer a less desirable browser? Should Mozilla Firefox strive not to follow web standards like Microsoft, or is that not a very good strategy?

Feature (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16435987)

It should make the intornet better, and with more stuff. I like features, it should have more features.

Take out Canvas and the like (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436003)

Canvas is just the sort of ad hoc extension that made the 1990's browser wars such an unproductive time for developers. If Firefox/Moz isn't going to focus on standards why should Microsoft. Check out this official documentation [mozilla.org] on Canvas.

For the most part, <canvas> is compatible with Apple's and other implementations. There are, however, a few issues to be aware of....

If fallback content is desired, some CSS tricks must be employed to mask the fallback content from Safari (which should render just the canvas), and also to mask the CSS tricks themselves from IE (which should render the fallback content). Todo: get hixie to put the CSS bits in
(Bold in the original)

Re:Take out Canvas and the like (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436185)

I don't understand canvas at all, it should definately be an optional extension but WTF happened to APNG?

Keep it simple ... (5, Insightful)

schwit1 (797399) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436005)

Make it fast, compliant and secure. Leave everything else to extensions.

Re:Keep it simple ... (2, Insightful)

BlueCodeWarrior (638065) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436211)

Mod parent up. This is exactly what I want out of a browser. Make it secure, make it 100% compliant, and then work on speed.

Yeah, pick two, I know...

Re:Keep it simple ... (2, Insightful)

GreatBunzinni (642500) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436593)

This is exactly what I wish firefox was and what I thought was the project's prime goal. It would be great if Firefox was as modular as it could be instead of seeing that feature getting eroded with time. For example, it would be great if the search bar was converted into a pure extension.

Re:Keep it simple ... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436379)

Make it fast, compliant and secure. Leave everything else to extensions.


I take it you haven't read the CSS specs. There's no way that you're going to make it "fast" and "compliant" at the same time. You'll have to chose one of them. The reason some browsers feel fast today is because we have fast computers or they skip corners when it comes to the standards.

Oh, one good step would to make an "force xml mode", in which xhtml is allowed, but non xml-compilent markup is rejected. I'm only guessing, but if the render engine doesn't have to be bothered by guessing, it can be made a little faster, even though it's marginal. Also, it would make browsing more interesting; you visit all those "Valid XTHML 1.0!"-sites and quickly realize they aren't.

Re:Keep it simple ... (1)

pile0nades (962661) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436551)

Doing that would make 80% of the internet unreadable.

Re:Keep it simple ... (4, Interesting)

onion2k (203094) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436465)

And, as an addendum to that, make extensions run in some sort of "protected memory" area so they can't take the browser down with them. If that's not possible at least make instances of the browser run seperately so a crash doesn't take down the whole lot.

Re:Keep it simple ... (1)

edxwelch (600979) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436515)

Sounds reasonable.
Except who's going to write the extensions?
Extensions are currently written by unpaid voluteers and now these extensions would be replacing signficant functionality from the browser

Re:Keep it simple ... (4, Insightful)

Chris_Jefferson (581445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436621)

Actually, I think that firefox's reliance on extensions is rapidly becoming a problem. For so many features I'm told to "get a plugin", which often isn't being maintained to the same high standard as the rest of the browser.

I'm happy for many features to be in extensions and a lean, mean version to be provided for those who want it. I'd also like a "bloated" browser as well, full of plugins that are considered useful, carefully maintained, and also checked to make sure they all work well together.

Stability. (5, Insightful)

dal20402 (895630) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436007)

With extensions, Firefox does pretty much anything that anyone could want in a browser. I'd like only two things from Firefox 3:

1. More stability and less memory usage. On both Windows and OS X, Firefox can swallow all your system resources if you leave it running long enough and do enough browsing. On my machines, the program also crashes, infrequently but regularly, most often when a page it's loading is corrupted by a network error. Spend the effort on finding memory leaks and bugs instead of adding gewgaws.

2. Without changing the functionality of the interface or its basic elements, make it prettier. The buttons look big, garish, and way too colorful; look at Safari for one example of a better way. (I use a skin to make my Firefox installs look much like Safari, but I think a more professional/more beautiful interface could inspire more people to switch.)

Re:Stability. (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436151)

3. Ability to save any browsing session. That is, save everything you are presently doing in Firefox to a big file. After that, Firefox can be closed, your computer can be shut off, etc, and later you can come back, open Firefox, and load your browsing session from the saved file.

Re:Stability. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436231)

There is already an extension for this...

Re:Stability. (2, Insightful)

miro f (944325) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436451)

that's actually part of firefox 2. so no need to wait

Re:Stability. (1)

BluhDeBluh (805090) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436275)

I still use the Qute theme which, ironically considering the Debian thing, they abandoned a long time ago since someone else held the copyright. They should get a decent default icon set, because I honestly think the one they use at the moment is abysmal.

Eliminate browser catatonia! (1)

Goonie (8651) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436585)

With regards to stability and reliability:
  • Fix the inability to handle large text boxes. I presume there's a quadratic algorithm in somewhere, and I very much doubt there's a need for one.
  • Fix the browser catatonia that occurs when it's doing name lookups. Can't all the network connections be handled in a separate thread/process?

supress password popups with one click. (3, Interesting)

krell (896769) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436017)

All I want is a simple option on the "Do you want to remember passwords for this site?" popups that says "no, and never ask EVER for ANY site". The only way to get rid of these worthless annoyances is some obscure setting buried in a menu. While it would be even better not to ever have been asked this in the first place, an option to get rid of all of these on the popup should not be too much to ask for. Other than that, no complaints. Nice clean UI, especially compared to IE7 !!!

Re:supress password popups with one click. (5, Funny)

cortana (588495) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436055)

Did you file a bug?

I doubt they will do this though. The password popup window already contains too many buttons: [Yes], [No] and [Never for this site]. End-users are already instantly paralyzed when they see a window with three buttons, like a deer in the headlights of an onrushing car. Adding a fourth button will make their brains melt out of their ears. :)

Re:supress password popups with one click. (1)

krell (896769) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436103)

You are right about having three buttons. I wish Firefox came instead configured by default "no popups at ALL". Worthless Firefox-generated popups like the password one are just as annoying as the X-10 camera ones. The way is is now, with an obscure setting buried in a menu, does not cut it.

Re:supress password popups with one click. (1)

cortana (588495) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436169)

Well, if you can think of a better way to present the info about password sharing to the user, please submit a bug! Remember that you can't rely on the user reading any documentation, and that the password storing feature must be enabled by default, or the user will assume that Firefox doesn't have the feature at all and will go back to IE.

Re:supress password popups with one click. (1)

krell (896769) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436381)

I can't see why anyone would even want this "feature".

Re:supress password popups with one click. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436431)

If you can't understand why a typical computer user (read: not a technical guru) would want a feature like this then you're really out of touch with the general populace.

Re:supress password popups with one click. (1)

cortana (588495) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436457)

I want this feature because there is no way to remember all the passwords I have to use for all the different sites I use.

Easy fix. (1)

eddy (18759) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436239)

They could remove the "[No]" which doesn't seem to be too useful. What, I'm going to suddenly change my mind after n irritations? Seems like a less likely event than someone initially wanting to answer "Never ask again". Just make it "Yes", "No (for this site)" and "Never ask again, thank you." Problem solved.

Re:Easy fix. (1)

mkoenecke (249261) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436403)

I use the "No" all the time, when I'm accessing a site where (a) I don't know if I will be using repeatedly or not, or (b) I don't know if the user name / password combo is correct. That is, I don't want *anything* about this site to be stored, whether "don't ask to save a password here" or "save the password for this site." I want a limited number of sites stored in my preferences, and don't want to have to go through and purge the list more often than I have to.

Already in FF2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436491)

Just un-tick 'remember passwords for sites' in the configuration.

Re:supress password popups with one click. (1)

DebianDog (472284) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436183)

Worthless??? I like saving my password when I am at home.

Re:supress password popups with one click. (1)

WiFiBro (784621) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436637)

If you are not having a masterpassword the dialog should warn:

Should Firefox remember this password for this site?

[ ] Yes, please have it visible for every sucker that can physically or remotely access this pc.
[ ] Yes, but first let me make a masterpassword to secure it.
[ ] No, maybe later.
[ ] No, never for this site.
[ ] No, and never bother me again.

PS usability freaks: up to 7 choices is allowed. :P

(PS I still love FF ok?)

Re:supress password popups with one click. (1)

ppz003 (797487) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436209)

In line with the status bar comment above, how about an icon that appears in the status bar (kinda like when they first did RSS) that you can click to get the popup asking for remember/never passwords on that site. Maybe have the first 3 or 5 times this icon appears, an XP like balloon can appear explaining to users how the icon works. After that, the icon appears with no balloon (or does not appear if set to never remember for this site).

If this makes you happy, then by all means suggest it. I currently just uncheck the remember passwords and don't use that feature, but this would work for me just as well.

one feature (1)

Chubby_C (874060) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436021)

I would like to see is the ability to highlight url's that are plain text on a page and have them open in a new tab instead of copy and pasting; maybe this already is out there in an extension but I haven't seen it. If you know it, let me know.

Re:one feature (1)

AdamKG (1004604) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436071)

Super drag and Go. [mozilla.org]

Re:one feature (2, Informative)

pdbaby (609052) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436091)

There's a greasemonkey script that does this (and it's incredibly useful!); http://downloads.mozdev.org/greasemonkey/linkify.u ser.js [mozdev.org] . Greasemonkey is an incredibly useful tool. You can make major modifications to pages with relatively simple javascript

Re:one feature (1)

Chubby_C (874060) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436131)

when you need the answer to something, someone on slashdot will have it

just had to wait for the right time to ask

thanks

Re:one feature (1)

luder (923306) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436443)

Linkification [mozilla.org] . Can't live without it.

Re:one feature (1)

ppz003 (797487) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436449)

This has several options to handle plain text links..
Linkification [mozilla.org]

Re:one feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436579)

There's no need. Any correctly-formatted URL that is selected as text can be dragged-and-dropped directly into the Address Bar, or the Tab Bar, or the Links Bar, or the Bookmarks Toolbar, etc., and will behave as though it was a propper link.

What you can't do, is drag this text into other applications and have it behave as a link - it will behave only as text unless the application supports text-as-link dragging in the way that Mozilla does. True links, on the other hand, drag in the same way that links from native browsers (such as IE or Safari) do. But, if you open the link (such as by dragging it onto a tab) you /can/ then drag the icon in the left of the toolbar, as though it was a true link.

Re:one feature (0)

rodbotic (1007983) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436581)

ignore there sugustions. unless your on a mac but if your mouse has a middle button or a wheel(the wheel may have a button) just middle click the link and it will auto open in a new tab!! and if you click the tab witht the middle button it goes away!! enjoy

More focus on easy to use security will be nice (4, Interesting)

also-rr (980579) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436035)

Especially integration with things like GPG for automatically authenticating posts in web forms and web mail. Has anyone found an extension to do that? There's a encryption plugin for gmail I believe but no general extension for all web forms.

It could seriously kick off use of GPG amongst the non-geeks for authentication (mostly) and encryption (past a critical mass). I don't believe it would be that difficult to explain to normal IT literate (ie, already uses Firefox or Opera) the benefit of signatures in evading blame and establishing trust.

Semi-on-topic, on the security front Firefox 2 fixes [revis.co.uk] the bug with tab icon handling that allows fingerprinting of Firefox 1.5 [revis.co.uk] by tracking isolated .ico file requests.

light browser (1)

unluckier (916763) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436037)

If Firefox continues fast and not memory hungry, then add all the useful features you want.

My suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436049)

My suggestion for firefox 3 is to reduce memory and CPU usage as much as possible, so it could be useful on slower machines with less memory and even faster on modern machines.

Firefox too buggy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436053)

Fix the bugs before adding new "features"!

useability nits (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436061)

1. When I click on a link that opens a PDF or other document, by default that should open in a separate popup. I hate closing the PDF and then discovering I've also closed Fox and lost the page I was on.

2. I hate the way that items can be moved on the bookmark menu by just dragging the mouse in view mode. Bookmarks disappear and turn up in submenus. After I've spent time setting up the bookmarks, I hate it when I mess it up inadvertently. There is already a dialog box for editing bookmarks, that's a plenty good enough UI for making modifications.

These two remind me of Donald Norman's DOET book, where bad design frustrates users and makes them feel stupid. And please don't answer that "you can get this behavior by going into "Tools Options Configure Advanced We-get-requests..". This should be the way it works out of the box.

How to turn PDFs into pop-ups (4, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436197)

When I click on a link that opens a PDF or other document, by default that should open in a separate popup.

To solve this issue, remove the Adobe Reader plug-in from your Firefox plug-ins folder. This will cause Adobe Reader to launch in a separate process with its own window. Or just ditch Adobe Reader and install Foxit Reader, the PDF viewer with less bloat.

Re:useability nits (1)

ppz003 (797487) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436477)

PDF Download [mozilla.org] Choose what you want to do with PDF links.

History: When I closed a window (5, Interesting)

twoshortplanks (124523) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436065)

I'd like to be able to browse my history by when I closed, rather than opened, a page.

I can't count the number of times I've closed a tab and then wanted it back later in the day, but been unable to find the url because I've actually had it open on my desktop for several days (so it's not in yesterday's history.) Being able to sort history by "close time" as well as "open time" would be really useful.

Maybe this could be a firefox extention. Hmm.

Re:History: When I closed a window (1)

eddy (18759) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436335)

Opera features a specific view (Menu "Window->Closed") into the closed windows history. Very handy.

Re:History: When I closed a window (2, Informative)

Excors (807434) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436453)

Firefox 2 has added a "Recently Closed Tabs" list in the History menu. It might not work as well as a sorted view of the whole history panel, if you want to get back a tab that you closed hours ago and it's fallen off the bottom of the list; but it's good if you realise soon after you accidentally close it.

Re:History: When I closed a window (1)

heinzkunz (1002570) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436517)

> I'd like to be able to browse my history by when I closed, rather than opened, a page.

Good idea, but I guess that many users will be confused by such a change. Anyhow, it is already proposed: "Sort history by time the page was closed, rather than opened." So let's see how much support the idea gets.

A pragmatic solution is a "recently closed tabs" menu. I think Opera introduced that, and the feature is already present in the trunk of the Firefox sources.

Let's hope they keep it simple.

Why are we even bothering... (4, Funny)

also-rr (980579) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436081)

...now that we can run IE6 on Linux? [tatanka.com.br]

It even supports active X! Active X! None of the true internet experience will be lost to you now.

Take inspiration from Konqueror. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436105)

Firefox should take its inspiration from Konqueror. The KDE folks have managed to put out a browser that basically fulfills the goals of Firefox. It's lightweight, it's fast, and its extensible.

In many ways, it's even better than Firefox. It uses native widgets rather than XUL, so rendering is noticeably more rapid, and it integrates better with the rest of the desktop (KDE in this case). It offers better CSS support, even passing the Acid2 test (thanks to help from Apple's Safari developers).

Konqueror also uses a lot less memory than Firefox. I've heard Firefox's excessive memory usage blamed on bad extensions and bad caching techniques. However, I've noticed excessive RAM usage even when using a default mozilla.org build, without any third-party extensions.

Unfortunately, Konqueror is tied to KDE at this point, and thus really only runs well under UNIX-style systems. That will change with the release of KDE 4, which should allow for Konqueror to run natively on Windows. Once that happens, Firefox will face some serious competition. That's why their best bet at this time may be to draw from the philosophies of Konqueror, so that they can potentially get there first, and capture the marketshare that Konqueror will otherwise be capturing.

Less = More (4, Interesting)

binaryspiral (784263) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436107)

Firefox is a great browser - the extensions and skins available let me make it work exactly like I want it to.

They're feeling the heat from IE7, and loaded v2 up with many of the features I already had using some extensions. But not everyone wants the extras...

So I say on to FF devs:

Less equals more, remove the bloat and bring back our lightweight, secure browser and let us customize it how we want it to be.

Re:Less = More (3, Insightful)

eddy (18759) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436373)

The problem is that basically the only real market share out there for grabs, is people who don't know anything more than "I click in the internet icon". If you give them the bare-bones, they'll go back to IE7.

The solution would seem to be to have official plugins shipped with the browser installer, which power users could deactivate (during installation) or replace.

Though personally I feel some things should just be built in (remembering tabs on restart for instance)

Check out Microsoft's wrongdoing! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436115)

It's here: http://malfy.org/ [malfy.org]

Optimize for AI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436117)

Eliza [masswerk.at] needs an AI-optimized Firefox to run the JavaScript program for artificial intelligence.

AI Mind [memebot.com] is a more advanced artificial intelligence at the Saint Stephen AI Project [agiri.org] .

Mind.html [sourceforge.net] is a Tutorial Artificial Intelligence that will work properly only if JavaScript works as well in Firefox as in Internet Explorer.

Independent AI projects [agiri.org] need support from Firexfox and all future-minded Web browsers as we approach the Semantic Web and the Technological Singularity [blogcharm.com] .

my suggestions (4, Interesting)

oohshiny (998054) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436137)

-- better Gnome desktop integration (currently, Firefox feels like it is trying to force Windows conventions down Linux users' throats), including better support for cut-and-paste and drag-and-drop of HTML, images, and other content

-- figure out some way of supporting drag-and-drop file uploads better

-- better editors for textareas (maybe support Mozex officially and find some way of letting users embed their favorite editors right in the page)

-- integrate better with Thunderbird and other Mozilla applications

-- replace the cumbersome XPCOM programming model (IDL compiler and all that) with something that's more like the Objective C object model and runtime

Re:my suggestions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436291)

On windows it sometimes feels like they're trying to jam OSX down our throats (Toolbar customize dialog, the preferences window, icons that don't look right etc.)

Re:my suggestions (1)

FireFury03 (653718) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436623)

better Gnome desktop integration (currently, Firefox feels like it is trying to force Windows conventions down Linux users' throats)

TBH, the whole of Gnome feels like it is trying to force Windows conventions down Linux users' throats...

How about fixing the memory leaks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436149)

One interesting request appears near the end of the list: the wish for Firefox to be the "fastest browser on the market," even in low-memory configurations such as PCs with only 256 MB of RAM.

I used to browse the web just fine with only 32MB, because back then browsers were written by people who actually knew how to use the free() function.

Support for programming and layout features (1)

Eravnrekaree (467752) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436173)

I believe Firefox should continue to enhance and add support for SVG, SMIL, CSS, HTML, Javascript, MNG, DOM, and other technologies. I have never quite understood why, as well, there is not some sort of portable font system that could be used in web pages, where if a font is unavialable locally, one can be including on the web site, downloaded, and temporalily used to display the web page. One such system is Open Type. As far as implementing new protocol features not yet standardised, I think the best thing to do is go ahead and implement the feature and then send in a protocol document to the W3C or whoever to have it standardised and make the documentation widely avialable.

Re:Support for programming and layout features (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436295)

The copyright issues involved with redistributing fonts are unclear, you can't copyright a typeface but you can copyright a computer program (TrueType fonts are actually run in a VM). Still, SVG fonts should allow for this when supported, that's the saner route anyway IMHO.

Re:Support for programming and layout features (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436523)

I have never quite understood why, as well, there is not some sort of portable font system that could be used in web pages, where if a font is unavialable locally, one can be including on the web site, downloaded, and temporalily used to display the web page.

Okay. I just did a Google search and found a random ugly MySpace page [myspace.com] (don't click if you value your sanity). Now imagine that this guy can make you download fonts, as well.

Even aside from that, and copyright concerns, can you wait until someone starts serving up corrupted fonts and 0wnz1ng computers with them?

An automatic porn suggester (4, Funny)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436179)

much like what Pandora did for music, I want firefox to do for porn. If I allow it, it can read the porn sites I frequent and suggest new sites that I might enjoy.

fixing stuff that should be working already (1)

edxwelch (600979) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436207)

Instead of doing yet another new theme, how about fixing stuff that should be working, like:
* password manager should work for all sites (it doesn't work in yahoo, or any online bank sites, for instance)
* download manager does not keep paused downloads across sessions
* memory usage (need I say more)

they won't really listen to us (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436213)

Having followed this [mozilla.org] particular argument for a while, I have little faith left in the devs' ability to listen to good advice.

Less is more (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436225)

How about less features, a spelling checker and things like that sound like too much bloat to me. One reason is that my operating system already has one built-in and the second reason is that I wonder how well it will spell check non-english.

Re:More feature removals (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436539)

The google searchbox can go. I am aware that it's a cash cow so feel free to include it as an extention enabled by default but it it is annoying and could definatively go.

Make it not suck RAM like a whore sucks cocks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436263)

And I'd quite like it if it didn't go down more often than Malda on Hemos.

Per site Shockwave Flash disabling!!! (5, Insightful)

Programmer_Errant (1004370) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436269)

Preferrably with control on the main panel to disable those sites with annoying float over ads that obstruct the view of the article you are trying to read. This is important since the Shockwave Flash positions itself as a mechanism for advertizers to bypass browser controls. Shockwave needs to be seriously slapped down.

Re:Per site Shockwave Flash disabling!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436383)

Why not just (a) use that "flash click to view" extension or (b) quit whining and uninstall the fucker?

My advice is b.

Re:Per site Shockwave Flash disabling!!! (1)

ppz003 (797487) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436497)

Use the above suggestion or try NoScript [mozilla.org] In the options, there is an option to block flash and other plugins as well.

Keybindings (1)

swarsron (612788) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436289)

Make keybindings as easy and complete as in opera. There is an extension which lets you configure some keybindings but there is nothing even close to what you can do in opera. I like vim movement in all my apps and i can do most of what i want with the extension but i think that's a feature which should be possible without extension (there is not even a real need for a gui for this, a config file would be fine. currently everything is spread over multiple files in xml iirc)

Memory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436297)

Stop using all of my goddamned memory.

My suggestions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436305)

* Faster performance.
* Less memory usage.
* More standards compliant.
* More secure.

* Support CSS3 and some more SVG stuff.
* Don't add a ping="...

* Make Firefox NOT add URLs to the address bar history list if the domain name entered does not resolve.

Voting? (1)

roubles (716740) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436307)

They should have a site where people can vote for features. That way they'll know how popular a particular feature might be ... and that might help them decide what features to implement first. Something like vim does here http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php [vim.org]

I'd like to see support for multi row tabs to be native in firefox (I currently get this from the Tab Mix Plus extension). This feature is already on the 'Feature Brainstorming' wiki - but I have no way to reaffirm support for it.

Per-plugin memory accounting (5, Interesting)

Jimmy_B (129296) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436315)

Provide a way to get a list of all the loaded extensions and plugins, and how much memory each is using. That will silence all the people who install memory-leaking extensions and complain that FF itself leaks memory, and also force the authors of those extensions to fix the leaks.

Different password handling (5, Insightful)

Rumagent (86695) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436333)

Number one on my list:

Wait until the password has been accepted before offering to save it.

Other than that. Slim it down to the bare minimum and let people customize it with extensions.

Re:Different password handling (1)

Chapter80 (926879) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436531)

Wait until the password has been accepted before offering to save it. I agree with the need, but how can the browser tell if a website has accepted your password? Whether it's accepted or denied, a web page comes back. It's the content of the web page that tells you, the user, that it wasn't accepted.

Perhaps a box should stay on screen until you close it (with "keep" or "discard" password). Then you can try it, and verify, and then let Firefox know the results.

Re:Different password handling (1)

Rumagent (86695) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436597)

"Whether it's accepted or denied, a web page comes back."

Yes, but shouldn't that be enough? At that point you are able to make an informed decision about whether to store the password or not - it is a simple matter of reading the page which is returned.

New Name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436397)

Firefox hasn't changed its name recently. I think it's about time for something new.

Re:New Name (1)

Chaffar (670874) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436485)

Firefox hasn't changed its name recently. I think it's about time for something new.
I hear a lot of people recently voted to call it IceWeasel.

Suggestions (1)

certel (849946) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436411)

My only suggestion and would be to ensure that the application doesn't crash. Mission accomplished so far.

4 things (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436473)

1. A fix for this javascript DoS attack:
for(;;) alert("Please restart your browser.");

2. Make hotkeys work everywhere, all the time. (You know when you hit CTRL+L and nothing happens)

3. Make it possible to open javascript links in new tabs.

4. Support for soft hypens [unicode.org] .

I don't care what the two new features are ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16436521)

As long as they use the 'Sys Rq' and 'Scroll Lock' button.

Moving forward, not standing still (5, Interesting)

sane? (179855) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436527)

OK, given that IE7 will be here soon, Firefox needs to move forward substantially to maintain its interest for the general public, so here's my list:
  • Full SVG support, integrated and sorted (should have been done before)
  • X3D built in (getting 3D content working is the obvious next step)
  • Interpolated image resize (smooth the damn images)
  • Antialias all text & transparent GIFs (obvious, surely)
  • Whole page zoom (particularly useful when your display size and the designers expectation don't match)
  • Startup Tabs (you usually go to the same round of sites when you turn on in the morning, so...)
  • Task based bookmark histories and easy note taking (keep research in order and reproducable)

JavaScript links (5, Insightful)

Hangin10 (704729) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436553)

I've yet to find an extension for this, so if there is one, please let me know.

It's all too often when I middle-click a link to open in a new tab, only to get the tab being "Untitled" and the URL starts with "javascript:". Is it too much to ask that Firefox detect a javascript link and prevent it from opening in a new tab (or window, but usually I catch those), and merely run the javascript?

Lasers, people! (3, Funny)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436605)

Can't I get a shark with freakin' lasers? Is that too much to ask?

I've beating this drum for a long time... (1)

Chabil Ha' (875116) | more than 7 years ago | (#16436617)

But how about 100% standards compliance on the CSS front? This goes for CSS1, CSS2, and the nearly complete CSS2.1. I'm quite sure with things going as they are, CSS3 ought to be available by the time Firefox 3.0 makes a debut.
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