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75 comments

"peek". (5, Funny)

hatless (8275) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476235)

A sneak mountaintop?

Re:"peek". (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16476285)

The correct spelling is 'Sneek peak'. ;)

Re:"peek". (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16476363)

Yeah... Hordes of Slashdot morons can't really spell "peek".

Re:"peek". (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476377)

And FTFA: "...the video needed to be widdled down to 10 minutes...".

Re:"peek". (4, Funny)

chazwurth (664949) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477107)

Yes, that's correct. Widdling: the practice of taking something big and making it widdle.

Direct link to YouTube article (3, Informative)

From A Far Away Land (930780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476241)

The link in the summary loads a page with horrible popover advertising that floats in the way.
Here's the on the page. [youtube.com]

Re:Direct link to YouTube article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16476583)

I fired off an e-mail about that annoying ad to the guys who run the SlingCommunity site. They responded saying that the ad has been taken down. Good thing, too. The text in the article on SlingCommunity isn't actually a trascript of the video, but instead are more detailed interview questions [slingcommunity.com] that didn't make it into the vid.

Alright, then (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16476275)

Some folks call it a Kaiser Player, but I calls it a Sling Player, mmm hmmmm.

Well... gee (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16476299)

A sling player, you say? Well... that's just great, then. I can put it next to my thatch generator and my hopskotch containment unit.

Dear god. (5, Informative)

jb.hl.com (782137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476309)

OK, this article is as clear as mud.

1) What is Sling?
2) What is SlingPlayer?
3) What is special about SlingPlayer?

Someone tell me, please.

Re:Dear god. (3, Informative)

brunascle (994197) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476355)

i assume a singplayer is slingware that connects to a slingbox [wikipedia.org]

sling!

Re: What's a Sling Player? (1, Informative)

kjh1 (65671) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476465)

That same site has some articles describing the Sling stuff. Here's one on the features of the Slingbox [slingcommunity.com] .

Re: What's a Sling Player? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16476575)

Ahh, so this article is another product advertisment!

Bet you feel special having paid for that little * next to your name, eh jackass?

It's not just an advertisement... (2, Funny)

csoto (220540) | more than 7 years ago | (#16484311)

It's a Slashvertisement! There is a difference. Ask for it by name!

Re:Dear god. (4, Funny)

Andy_R (114137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476463)

Well, I visited their site, and it doesn't say what the damn thing actually is (or if it does, it's in a non-obviousl place), and after 2 minutes 30 of the video, all I know is that the developer doesn't know that the Dock is called the Dock. However, the interviewer does say "awsome" at least once in every sentence, so it must be good!

Re:Dear god. (2, Informative)

Cantus (582758) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476527)

I think this should be informative: Slingbox [wikipedia.org] .

BTW, I didn't know what it was either.

In Layman's terms... (5, Informative)

cyclocommuter (762131) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476793)

...A Slingbox is is a device that allows me to stream video from my Set Top Box (STB), DVD player, cable connection, etc., so I can watch it on any PC, Handheld device, Mobile Phone (certain models), and now Mac computer (running the SlingPlayer software) on the LAN or over the internet. So I can be on some business trip in Asia but still be able to watch local shows from my STB in North America via the internet. This is what is known as place shifting. It is actually pretty cool...

Re:In Layman's terms... (0)

Andy_R (114137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477101)

That's "now" as in "eventually", right?

So, it's like the EyeTV [macupgrades.co.uk] but it costs twice as much, doesn't record, isn't yet Mac compatible, does lossy recompression on everything and won't let you watch programmes on more than 1 device at a time?

Why am I supposed to be impressed, exactly?

Er no, not at all (2, Informative)

lakeland (218447) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477583)

Apart from connecting to a TV signal this has almost nothing in common with EyeTV.

It is basically for people without many computer skills. They've got a computer (probably running Windows, maybe OSX) but they don't use it much. They've probably got broadband and they like watching TV. Usually they watch TV on their TV. Sometimes they want to watch it on their computer, sometimes they want to watch it on their laptop, sometimes on their mobile, sometimes overseas or at a friend's house.

Compare that to EyeTV. EyeTV is for people with a decent modern (OSX) computer that want to watch TV on their Mac with its nice screen. How can an EyeTV user watch what is currently playing at home while overseas? What about if they're in bed with their laptop, can you use your EyeTV plugged into your desktop to help? Even if you can with a few hacks here and there, won't that require your desktop to be turned on?

Re:Er no, not at all (2, Interesting)

Andy_R (114137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16478703)

Well, obviously you plug the EyeTV into your laptop to watch it with your laptop, so unless this non-techy person has friends with broadband but no TV, the only advantage of this device is it will work in realtime from an overseas location that has broadband access, or if you have a broadband-equipped phone with a big enough screen to watch TV comfortably and a price-plan that makes moving this much data to a phone affordable (if such a thing exists).

I still don't get why people would swap those tiny advantages for the price hike, reduced quality and inability to record. This looks like far too little, far too late to me. If usability is the supposed advantage, I'd happily bet that Apple's iTV (whatever it may turn out to actually be) will turn out to have the edge there.

You need CyTV (1)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 7 years ago | (#16496785)

Actually there is software -- or was software, anyway -- for place-shifting using an EyeTV.

It's called CyTV. I haven't used it in a few versions, but basically it is/was a remote-viewer application, that would let you view the incoming stream from your EyeTV over a network, and also view the saved recordings and change channels and whatnot. So basically it was like a Slingbox, but also worked as a TV tuner on your computer, and also recorded.
http://www.lucid-cake.net/cytv/index_en.html [lucid-cake.net]

It used to have two parts, a server and a player (the server going on the machine with the EyeTV), but now it seems like they're using the VideoLan Client as the client instead, so any machine than can run VLC can be a client. So it's totally cross-platform: your Mac can serve video to Windows, Mac, Linux, BeOS ... whatever. And IIRC, VLC uses standard formats and protocols, and is well documented, so you could probably even get embedded device support if you knew what you were doing.

The only advantage of the Slingbox is that it doesn't require a computer to be near a cable connection -- it's much more appliance-ish. You set it in your home A/V stack and it does its thing. Personally although I find the concept intriguing, I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. Any company that touts how it "leverages the latest WMV technology!" is not one I want anything to do with. That video stream is probably either encrypted all to hell, or so nonstandard that it might as well be. Given that their Mac support has come more from their marketing department than from engineering, I'm not interested.

Really, the Slingbox is just a horribly crippled example of what you could easily do with MythTV on Linux, or EyeTV on the Mac. (I wonder if it could be re-flashed with better software? The price is pretty reasonable -- under $150 -- so it would be hard to build a DIY micro system for the same price unless you have an impressive junk bin. Might be worth it just for the parts.) The fact that it transmits in WMV and requires a proprietary player application, as it comes from the factory, just kills it for me. Total waste.

Assuming you can drag a cable line over to where your Mac is, there is no excuse for purchasing a Slingbox. Do yourself a favor and support an actual Mac company, and get an EyeTV. It's by far the better product and actually has Mac users as a priority, and not a distant afterthought.

Re:In Layman's terms... (1)

Pinback (80041) | more than 7 years ago | (#16488131)

A slingbox is a device sold at RadioShack for people to lazy or inept to hack their Tivo or use DVD Decrypter to rip DVDs.

It looks like an oversize bar of baker's chocolate, painted silver, with holes drilled in it.

Re:In Layman's terms... (1)

Anthony Baby (1015379) | more than 7 years ago | (#16497249)

I'm very interested in placeshifting since I am virtually local in two major US cities. Getting local drive-time radio on MP3 has been easy, but local television feeds have been impossible. It's my understanding that FCC rules prevent local network affiliates from operating in other television markets. Has anyone heard complaints over the possibilities a device like Sling offer?

Re:In Layman's terms... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16498557)

Holy moly. It's been a long day. I misread that as "I'm very interested in placeshifting since I virtually own two major US cities."

Re:Dear god. (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477057)

A: Some folks calls it a sling blade, I call it a kaiser blade.

Oh, sorry, wrong topic.

Re:Dear god. (3, Funny)

slughead (592713) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477537)

1) What is Sling?

A piece of leather that allows one to hurl stones at high speeds.

2) What is SlingPlayer?

It's a brand new product which is now available on the Mac!

3) What is special about SlingPlayer?

It's NEW!

Re:Dear god. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16477559)

1) What is Sling?
2) What is SlingPlayer?
3) What is special about SlingPlayer?


Some folks calls it a sling player, I call it a kaiser player. It's just a long handle like an axe handle with a long player on it that's shaped kinda like a banana. Sharp on one edge and dull on the other.

Re:Dear god Indeed! (4, Informative)

Cadallin (863437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16480185)

Would you whiny bitches quit posting "I don't understand!" "What's this about?" "I don't get it?" Do you do the same thing thing with the Nightly News? Do you hear "Volcano erupts in Hawii" and immmediately ask: "Whats a Volcano?" "What's this Ha-waa-eee thing?" "Isn't an eruption something that happens in sex?"

Sure, Sure mod me flame bait. But I'm fucking right here. If these people took any effort at all, or the same effort as making a post(!) they'd know.

Googling Slingplayer, the top fucking link is:

http://us.slingmedia.com/page/slingplayer.html [slingmedia.com]

Which is the fucking product page! Searching Wikipedia for Slingplayer doesn't return it immediately, but gives this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search =slingplayer [wikipedia.org] a list with the top(!) link being the Slingbox, the device this software interfaces with. It tooke me much longer to write this post than it did for me to do those searches, and that's the truth. It's not like this information is secret and hidden. A simple search on the most common information sources gives it straight out.

Re:Dear god Indeed! (1)

vistic (556838) | more than 7 years ago | (#16480709)

Wow. I guess it must be impossible to do a bad summary for Slashdot. Heck, why don't they just submit one-word summaries. Darn lazy people!

Next on Slashdot: "Something about Windows Vista, Firefox, and bubble gum. Google it!"

Re:Dear god Indeed! (0, Flamebait)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 7 years ago | (#16482317)

Apparently it's not a fucking product, it's just a gizmo to watch TV. Didn't you read the summary ??

How disapointing.

Re:Dear god Indeed! (0)

RedBear (207369) | more than 7 years ago | (#16483041)

What kind of retarded rant was that? The readers are fully justified in expecting to get at least a faint idea of the point of the article from the title and submission text. If the information was so easy to find then the original idiot poster (a relation of yours perhaps?) should have included it in the submission so hundreds of thousands of /. readers could easily decide whether they gave a crap about continuing on to the linked article or reading the /. discussion. I don't think that's really too much to ask. If you had to do even 30 seconds of googling for such basic information on every /. submission I think even you would get pretty tired of it pretty quickly.

BTW, your comparison to common words is specious. The vast majority of the readers will know what words like "volcano", "Hawaii", or "iPod" mean. In comparison, this "SlingPlayer" doesn't have enough mindshare for most people to know what it is. Thus the number of perfectly reasonable posts asking why we should care. But congratulations on your simply mind-bogglingly magnificent googling skillz. I'm sure none of us could have figured it out without you.

Re:Dear god Indeed! (1)

Cadallin (863437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16490959)

In case you haven't noticed, Slashdot is "News for Nerds." Odds are if you care about what this product is, then you a. Know about it already, b. If, it sounds even vaguely interesting, take the time to inform yourself about what it is via the methods I described, or c. Don't give a rat's ass about the product anyway, and are bitching for nothing.

I fail to see the problem in any way. If you want to know, make some effort to educate yourself. My point was was not to illustrate my "mind-bogglingly magnificent googling skillz" it was to illustrate just how available this information is to anyone who makes the slightest effort, a stoned baboon ought to be able to find it.

Re:Dear god Indeed! (1)

rjstanford (69735) | more than 7 years ago | (#16495555)

So... why bother even reading the articles? After all, if you're up to date on the latest "geek" stuff, you really don't need to go here at all, do you?

The criticism was perfectly justified. The article bit.

Re:Dear god Indeed! (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 7 years ago | (#16484153)

Submitter take the time to explain the basics of the article: 30 seconds.

Submiter does not take the time to explain the basics of the article: 50 000 slashdotters wasting 2 minutes (since they don't know what it is, need time to search for it, read it, understand it.) Total time wasted: 69 days, 10 hours and 40 minutes.

On the web, a single person being lazy ends up wasting time for thousands of people. Simple enough to understand.

Re:Dear god Indeed! (1)

jb.hl.com (782137) | more than 7 years ago | (#16488115)

No, you're not right. I am not here to fact check summaries and make them make sense, the submitter and the editors are.

Everybody knows what a volcano is, or what Google is, or what Windows is. What a SlingPlayer is or is not isn't obvious to most people, and the submitter should have made it more clear.

Re:Dear god Indeed! (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 7 years ago | (#16493611)

First: Don't be a dork.

Second: Google for it is seldom a good answer. People are social craetures, and it is in are nature to ask our 'tribe' for information. It was much easier to say, "What's over there" to are peers then it is to go see and get eaten by boars.

If the nightly news was intereactive, and they mentioned something the viewers didn't lknow, then YES PEOPLE WOULD ASK.

Shit, I am tired of you anti social assholes giving the rest of us a bad name.

"What's Sling Player?" (3, Informative)

Peganthyrus (713645) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476343)

The Slingbox family of products enable you to watch and control your TV anywhere you are from virtually any Internet-connected laptop, PDA, or Windows cell phone.

  - from Sling Media's site [slingmedia.com] , for people like me who just kinda avoid TV, since both summary and article seem to assume you know what it is.

What it is (3, Funny)

mac1235 (962716) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476369)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slingbox [wikipedia.org] Ideal for people who don't have bittorent or have TV's. Poor bastards.

Re:What it is (1)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476777)

Yeah, no kidding. Who needs a Tivo when you have Bittorrent?

Re:What it is (1)

ocelotbob (173602) | more than 7 years ago | (#16478561)

Some of us like using our bandwidth for more important things. Like pr0n for example. BT cuts into my highly needed pr0nstream. Better to have the tivo gather the shows for me.

Re:What it is (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#16478845)

No, you don't understand, Bittorrent is where you get the pr0n from.

Re:What it is (1)

Nachtfalke (160) | more than 7 years ago | (#16478971)

It's not pr0n or BT. It's pr0n over BT.

README (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476449)

What's the point of a blog summary that tells more about the media types of the page to which it links than what it is linking to? Is it just an excuse for a title so it can have a typo?

First sling, then (1)

wardk (3037) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476551)

maybe TiVo will go mac too.

one can dream

Attention Apple Fags! (1)

heauxmeaux (869966) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476595)

This is one step up from your last sneak peek - in the boys bathroom at the rest stop.

VideoLAN (3, Insightful)

digitalhermit (113459) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476605)

Interesting.. Sling Player apparently allows you to watch television from any device.

Under Linux I use a program called VideoLAN Client to send television (or DVD, AVIs, camera) to other TCP enabled Linux machines. For example, I can use VLC to watch live television on my porch or in my garage over the wireless network. Quality is decent, though don't expect fullscreen DV over a 54Mbit wireless connection. Over the 100Mbit LAN and with a decent server it's pretty decent quality. MythTV also has this functionality.

You can also encode video for iPods if you want to shift your viewing to a a 2" display... I don't understand the appeal of it, but hell, the optometrists need the work.

Re:VideoLAN (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476825)

VLC is nice, but SlingBoxes can be had for $100. You'll be hard pressed to build a VLC encoding rig for that little money. Of course, you'll have no crappy DRM with the VLC or or MythTV setup...

Re:VideoLAN (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477029)

That's because it's cheap hardware - the capture is something like 160x240 which is going to look crap no matter how much bandwidth you give it (there are some online demos people have done.. they're barely watchable IMO).

A PC capture card relaying over, well, anything, will do a lot better.

Re:VideoLAN (2, Informative)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477609)

That's plain not true. It captures at the full 320x240 NTSC resolution. It scales the bitrate up to the available bandwdith. Quality video encoding DSPs are not very expensive at all right now. The difference between your PC capture card and the slingbox are that the slingbox has a slow, cheap general purpose CPU (which doesn't need to be fast), a cheap-o case, and no disks, etc...

On a LAN, the slingbox video is quite passable. Better than, for example, a TiVo on maximum compression.

Re:VideoLAN (4, Informative)

entrylevel (559061) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477979)

NTSC is many things, but calling 320x240 "full resolution" is wrong. NTSC has several resolutions [strata3d.com] , all of which are considerably higher than 320x240.

The slingbox is awesome for $100, but VLC (and one of my favorites, the deprecated VLS [videolan.org] ) really has a leg up on the options it gives you. One of my favorite features is that it can transcode either a video file or input stream (from a capture card for example) into any other format it supports for playback, in realtime (as long as your CPU can handle it). I use it to stream 5 Mbit/sec video over wireless every day and it works and looks fantastic.

In my experience, VLC's lowest-end quality (for example, trying to send upstream on a crippled US cable modem or ADSL), looks far better than the highest quality available from a Slingbox. Other pluses are that VLC runs the same (and supports the same features and codecs) on all major operating systems and your stream will never be wrapped in DRM.

Re:VideoLAN (1)

Wovel (964431) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477843)

Sling Player hads always captured at 320x240 and the latest firmware will cpature at 640x480 automatically on LAN connections or can be turned on manually for Internet connections. Facts > Fiction. It is not cheap hardware the encoder / software combo will deliver a better image over the Internet than 90% of users will see over the LAN with VLC.

Re:VideoLAN (2, Informative)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 7 years ago | (#16480563)

I can't believe people have missed one of the major features of the Slingbox... it has an IR blaster.

It's a small feature, but very useful. I hook my Slingbox to my TiVo. Voila, I can watch my TiVo anywhere! (With full control of it too). It also supports cableboxes, so you can use it with digital cable. Or if you're really down, you can use the coax input for analog cable.

So via coax, it's like your VLC setup. But then add in the remote control feature, and the ability to remotely choose between coax, composite and s-video inputs dynamically, and Slingbox makes it a snap to setup. It can be all done via VLC and a few other OSS apps, but honestly, Slingbox took only 10 minutes to set up. Add 5 more minutes to change it static IP and open a port on my router so I can view it over the Internet.

Hook up a small surveillance camera, TiVo and maybe regular cable (or antenna) to it, and you can choose between seeing your camera, watching TiVo, or plain old regular cable/OTA, all controllable via the GUI or keyboard. It's place-shifting for the lazy.

pretty bad (1)

oohshiny (998054) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476619)

I almost bought the Slingplayer because it had a Mac OS X logo on the box and claimed it was Mac compatible. This article now says that the player isn't out yet.

So, what is it? Is the article outdated, or is Sling selling boxes that claim Mac compatibility without actually shipping the software?

Re:pretty bad (1)

nursegirl (914509) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476761)

Sling made commitments to have OS X software ready by Q2, but have since delayed it twice. So, yes, they started selling the hardware in September, before the software was Mac OS X compatible.

Re:pretty bad (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477031)

Yes. I bought one of these at the end of September because it said it was Mac compatable, and it wasn't. There are a lot of angry people with a Slingbox they can't use waiting for them to get off their asses and release the client. The problem is almost certainly that they had a hard time getting the DRM working. Bastards.

Re:pretty bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16480795)

Well, they did manage to put a black sticker over the "Palm OS" logo on the box I had, so they ought to have been able to do the same for the "OS X" logo... this strikes me as going beyond "we missed our deadlines".

And I don't buy that it's the DRM code; DRM is portable and simple--it doesn't even have to be very effective given the DMCA. More likely, they had a tough time with Mac development and getting smooth playback.

Re:pretty bad (1)

dubiousmike (558126) | more than 7 years ago | (#16497065)

I have been a part of a Slingbox thread where many Slingmedia customers are raising holy hell because Sling promised a mac client soooo long ago and have yet to come through with it. They supposedly have a beta, yet none of the folks who have been waiting have even confirmed that they are a part of the beta program. I don't believe they really have one and think its still vapor ware at this point.

That said, I am using a Slingbox with a PC as I pen this on my other monitor. Its pretty good and the overhead seems to be less than that of my dual head GBPVR. I also have a ReplayTV and a dual head Comcast PVR.

Sling works great over a local network but is a bit crappy over the net. But it makes sense if you want to watch local programming (lets say Red Sox or Patriot games) when not at home.

sad that there's a need for this.... (3, Interesting)

nblender (741424) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476639)

What I mean is that if the networks had their collective poop in a group, you would be able to access your monthly TV subscription via some 'iTunes' thing no matter where you were but as it is, you have to buy this extra piece of hardware and potentially violate the AUP of your broadband provider (for setting up a server on your connection).

I have some simple scripts that make it easy for me to automatically grab shows from my mythbackend at home, while I'm in my hotel room 12 hops away. I just watch them manually with vlc, laptop plugged into the hotel room's TV, and cellphone as a bluetooth remote... I keep thinking it would be fairly trivial to convince mythtv to do all this seamlessly...

Article is spam (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16476823)

ATTENTION SLASHDOT EDITORS:

Please stop posting press releases as "news". This is a e p.r. stunt and you're diluting what little credibility shashdot has by putting what is essentially an ad on the front page

Re:Article is spam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16477543)

I don't think this is an ad. I frequent the Sling Community forums quite a bit for news on the Mac software. No doubt that the Sling Community guys are on the pro side of the fence when it comes to the Slingbox, but it looked to me like he was just asking all the questions folks in my shoes really wanted answers to... like when the heck is it coming out?! I've been waiting for what seems like an eternity for Sling to release an OSX client. Lots of folks in the same position as me wondered if a Sling Player for Mac was just a myth. This is the first time video of the Mac software has ever been shown, which was actually really exciting to see. I say Slashdot worthy.

-Greg

Re:Article is spam (1)

gizmateer (890979) | more than 7 years ago | (#16478035)

Definitely Slashdot-worthy.... box has had Mac compatible since January. Very excited to see actually screenshots.

Interview Venue (3, Funny)

ari_j (90255) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476913)

What the hell? This looks like a teenager taking the interview in a busy airport concourse. Can someone help me pull the fork out of my ear? I had to put it there to survive long enough to find the "stop" button on the interview video.

The guy on the MacBook obviously doesn't use Macs. (3, Interesting)

mattyohe (517995) | more than 7 years ago | (#16476989)

"You'll see that there is an icon when you install it... in the uhh.. kinda cool little toolbar here" (while pointing to the Dock)

Better Idea (1)

Ice Wewe (936718) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477153)

Wait for iTV (after they finish with the DRM, or, assuming it exsists at all), and actually get something that will record, is gaurnteed Mac compatable, and actually looks descent.

Re:Better Idea (4, Funny)

eldepeche (854916) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477473)

-1, Can't spell.

Re:Better Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16477683)

-1, ill-informed

This is big deal for sling (mac) people (2, Interesting)

mergy (42601) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477209)

The buzz around this really is rooted in the way that Slingmedia has handled all of this. I was following this for a quite a while because I really liked the functionality of the SlingBox but was not happy on the lack of OS X support. Then, when Sony's Location Free TV came out and IODATA announced OS X software to work with it, I thought I was going to go down that route.

This is really more a kind of thing where Slingmedia showed an early beta of the OS X player (I think at MacWorld in Jan 06!) and the word got around, but Slingmedia was vague about exactly what was going to happen. Then, they did the typical "will release in Q3' garbage only to let that slip. They people went nuts.

So, long story short I was at Best Try this weekend and there was a SlingBox A/V there and the box had OS X icons (and Vista BTW - pretty funny) on the boxes. So, clearly Slingmedia's grand scheme was to already have the OS X release out by the time they release the new hardware models. Anyway, I bought one and got it working under Parallels on my Intel Mac Mini. Pretty amazing that the video and audio are synced-up while running in Windows 2000 in a Parallels environment VM. It works great. I tried initially to get it going on WINE and then CrossOver, but no dice.

Sling makes a good product, they just really dropped the ball on this. If they release the OS X player this month, all will probably be forgiven.

Re:This is big deal for sling (mac) people (1)

Wovel (964431) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477921)

Wow this poor guy was beaten up by an ill-informed moderator. I hope someone can straighten this out in the meta-mod. I have not had any luck wih CrossOver either. Parallels and Bootcamp work great, for those of us with Intel macs. Everyone else is stuck till the player is released.

Re:This is big deal for sling (mac) people (1)

mergy (42601) | more than 7 years ago | (#16478571)

CrossOver/WINE seems really promising. I REALLY want it to work but it probably just has issues trying to get things to run that have service and or codec-type issues.

Isn't that... (1)

smartdreamer (666870) | more than 7 years ago | (#16477895)

shameless advertizing? Let me summarize:
SlingCommunity blah blah of Sling Media. They blah blah scoop blah blah SlingPlayer...

And it points to a page full of advertizement. All this mess for a poor product. What a pity.

Anyway, that was my slingshot

Check out Apple's wrongdoing! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16478135)

It's here: http://malfy.org/ [malfy.org]

Don't give them views or praise. (1)

juuri (7678) | more than 7 years ago | (#16478435)

Sling deserves no praise or accolades for their Mac client. It's been "any month" now for what? Over a year? If it was a real priority they would have actually dedicated some real resources to getting it done or brought in outside help for whatever was hindering them in their internal development. Mostly they deserve a bit of snarky retribution for allowing their new hardware to ship with boxes that claimed Mac support... even though it isn't in the hands of anyone but a few beta testers.

Where I come from that is called lying.

(Yes development dates slip, things happen, but if they took the time to sticker over other platforms the support was no where near ready for, why didn't they do it for OSX? Perhaps because they are dishonest? Or Lazy? Or what?)

At least unlike Tivo they aren't outright lying to their customers.

what are they thinking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16480407)

I don't get it. Why don't they (a) stream a format that vlc can display and let customers supply their own client on a bunch of platforms, obviously including Linux, and (b) make it symmetrical - especially the pro version with pass-through connecters - so you can stream back from the computer(s) to your HD TV?

Buyer beware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16481623)

Anyone considering purchasing this product should probably read through this 30page thread:
http://www.slingcommunity.com/forum/thread/11357 [slingcommunity.com]

Summary: A Mac SlingPlayer was due for imminent release at MacWorld in January, it is now October and still coming soon. A public beta(not a real release) is due by the end of October now and only because they're trying to save themselves from a PR disaster.

Sling: Mac Support Devil turned Angel... so far. (1)

Kailoa Kadano (1015021) | more than 7 years ago | (#16482665)

Waiting for Sling Player for the Mac has been a trying experience. See my post here:
Do Not Do Dumb Things to Your Customers [macbizlog.com]

In summary:
  • First announced June 2005
  • First scheduled for Q2 2006
  • Delayed to Q3 2006
  • Shipped New products with Mac Logo on the Box, but no actual Mac software in the box
  • Delayed to Q4 2006
Since then, the company has made great strides:
Sling Makes Amends [macbizlog.com]

Communication has improved and they seem commited to releasing a public beta this month.
Let's hope they follow through.
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