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Firefox 2.0 Posted a Day Early

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the let's-slashdot-mozilla dept.

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A number of readers alerted us to the [link removed] day-early [accidental] posting of Firefox version 2.0. At this writing the top page at mozilla.com still doesn't mention its availability. One reader pointed us to [link removed] a mirror and another recommended a comprehensive review of Firefox 2.0, with many screenshots, over at mozillalinks.org. Update by RM: - links above removed at request of Mozilla release people. They asked us to link to this note instead. They're only asking us to wait until Tuesday Afternoon (U.S. Pacific Time) for the official 2.0 download, which isn't long. (Patience is a virtue, etc.)

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Nice! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552584)

Linking to a 5.4Mb file directly on Slashdot. Nice!

I smell a conspiracy (4, Funny)

ZakuSage (874456) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552634)

from the let's-slashdot-mozilla dept.

Re:I smell a conspiracy (3, Funny)

Lucan Varo (974578) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553108)

Hence the early release. They saw the /. comming from miles away. Not that you can actually look through tubes or anything.

Re:Nice! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552670)

I hope they fixed the memory leak.

(For some fun, I recommend posting above message to the mozillazine-forum [mozillazine.org]. They always like constructive critizism, ensuring fun for both sides.

Actually it's 45.6 Mb (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16553094)

The .exe installer size is approximately

5.7 MB
5.4 MiB
45.6 Mb
43.5 Mib

Damnit! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552594)

And I just finished emerging 1.5...

Re:Damnit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552846)

2 won't be unmasked for 2-3 months if 1.5 was anything to go by.

Huh? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552606)

No fp!1!? I guess everyone's rushing to download it first. This proves my theory: FF > random /. memes.

Re:Huh? (4, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552674)

I, for one, welcome our new meme-crushing overlords.

So that's how they do it (5, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552608)

The Firefox team are assured never to suffer 0-day exploits by making -1-day releases. Clever, clever...

Re:So that's how they do it (5, Funny)

acidrain (35064) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553058)

They could also be the first to have a -1 day exploit, which would look even worse.

I'll wait thanks (1, Insightful)

ronanbear (924575) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552614)

It's not on software update either yet. I think I'll wait until firefox wants to upgrade and then I'll do one last check that all my extensions have been updated.

Language (4, Funny)

ostehaps (929761) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552638)

Sweet move to link to the en-GB version. That's the flavour I like!

Re:Language (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552902)

Argh. For a second there I thought the second link was to a release in Linuxean. But no, it's en-US like the one above it!

Re:Language (1)

sho222 (834270) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553096)

Thanks for the heads up. I almost installed that shite. That would have been a rude suprise.

Early bird (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552666)

Nice to see open source being early when other offerings are a little... late.

Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552676)

Firefox 2.0 Rc3 = Firefox 2.0 final?

I don't know but the Rc3 at any rate appears to be a final release to me. It's awesome and has brought me back from using Opera. Let's see if the memory usage is as high as it used to be after a week of continuous usage ;)

I'll upgrade if (3, Interesting)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552700)

1) it quits crashing all the time with the mplayer plugin when playing videos

2) it finally has a sensible cookie blocking interface, à-la Mozilla, and not that atrocious settings tab that I have to scroll through to find the site I just blocked cookies from that I need to re-enable.

Otherwise the current 1.x version works well enough for me.

Re:I'll upgrade if (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552924)

Get the CookieSafe extension / addon. It's like NoScript, but for cookies.

Re:I'll upgrade if (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16553064)

Works for me. Try creating a new profile.

Re:I'll upgrade if (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553158)

mplayerplug-in works great in both firefox-1.5 and 2.0 but i have noticed if you switch distros or upgrade things like libpng or other critical system files then mplayerplug-in will get quirks or sometimes totally crash or refuse to work. i suggest you delete the existing plugins and recompile mplayerplug-in withe the gecko-sdk

As pointed out in MY story submission... (1, Informative)

Spokehedz (599285) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552718)

The article links to the BRITISH version... Which sucks for all us American types.

So, don't just download that one and install it. It DOES matter, with the inline spell-checker.

Or else you'll end up doing your neighbour a favour by changing his tyre.

Re:As pointed out in MY story submission... (5, Funny)

eipgam (945201) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552772)

Heaven forbid you actually learn to spell words correctly! :)

Re:As pointed out in MY story submission... (1)

Spokehedz (599285) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552960)

For words that I don't use that often, it's a lot easier than putting it into google and letting it tell me what I meant.

Re:As pointed out in MY story submission... (4, Funny)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552804)

Or else you'll end up doing your neighbour a favour by changing his tyre

To a different colour?

Re:As pointed out in MY story submission... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16553062)

>Or else you'll end up doing your neighbour a favour by changing his tyre.

And I, for one, welcome our new, superfluous-vowel-using overlords.

Which release group gets credit? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552724)

And where is the /crack directory? I guess they put a serial in the nfo.

Wikipedia Support for Firefox 2 Added (5, Interesting)

yurik (160101) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552768)

There is now Firefox 2 support enabled on all Wiki*edia sites. To use, navigate to http://en.wikipedia.org/ [wikipedia.org] (or any other language/project), click the search engine selector button in the upper right corner, and click "add wikipedia". The added bonus is that auto-suggest is also working - as you type you search, it will provide a list of page titles that begin with the typed letters.

One note - the timeout is set to 500ms, which is not too long (especially when the entire slashdot visits wiki). To make it longer, open firefox_install_dir\components\nsSearchSuggestions .js, and edit the "_suggestionTimeout: 500" line. Something like 2000 works fine for me.

--Yurik / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik [wikipedia.org]

Re:Wikipedia Support for Firefox 2 Added (1)

ender81b (520454) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552974)

And never forget that you can type wiki $something in the address bar of Firefox (including earlier versions) and have it bring up either the wikipedia entry that term or, if it can't find that, the closest match.

My favorite feature ever.

Also -- let's not forget Portable Firefox has the RC3 version out (which, from what I can tell, is Firefox 2.0 in everything but name) here [portableapps.com]

My impressions of 2.0? It's got some nice tweaks, it feels faster, it uses about 25 meg less Ram on my windows machine and about 30 meg less on my Mac. All in all, a solid build. Lacking in whiz bang features maybe, but a nice solid build.

Difference between 2.0 RC3 and 2.0 final? (1)

BeeBeard (999187) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552774)

Are there any differences between the two? I'm already running the RC3 ebuild and I'd really like to avoid upgrading if possible.

Re:Difference between 2.0 RC3 and 2.0 final? (1)

aitan (948581) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552822)

Don't worry, when it's released you will get a nice window telling you that after restart you will get the final version.

And about your questions, it seems that the RC was a real RC, so there are no changes.

/. needs to update (1)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552796)

Page scrolling in FF2 in journals is really slow with the new comment system turned on.

All in all, seems like a fairly good release. A bit slower here and there though, but pages appear even faster than before. Well that could very well be a UI illusion, but whatever, it seems to work. :)

pls wait 24 hours (5, Insightful)

jhermans (108300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552800)

For crying out loud ! Can't we just leave those Mozilla folks alone for a day, so that they can prepare the release. They have to post 38 different executables, and do a very last check to see if they actually work.

word to this (4, Insightful)

thdexter (239625) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553104)

At this writing,
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ [mozilla.com]
and
http://www.getfirefox.com/ [getfirefox.com]
and
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ [mozilla.com]
all only say Firefox 1.5. Come f-ing on, slashdot, after having jumped the gun several times on freebsd [slashdot.org]. do they really need emails from everyone that produces software saying "only announce things when they're really announced" before checking a single website or two to see if something's officially out?

Do something about extensions (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552828)

Let the Open Source community do something about Firefox extensions. For those we hope to attract with extensions, they will find that very few are available for version 2.0! I have only seen ForecastFox that will work on the 1.5.x and the 2.0 series of Firefox.

When we tout the advantages of Open Source, the availability of extensions on time, is not something we should fail on. After all, there have been a number of betas and release candidates released before this major one. Tests could be done on those.

One problem I have seen with this new version is that its default theme is ugly! I appreciate that in consumes less memory and feels a bit more snappier than the older version.

The re-organzation that has been made in the preferences section is also highly appreciated. The same applies to spell checking - its best feature in my opinion.

I have one question though. Is Firefox a GTK application? I see it resembles a GTK application and uses its dialogs. If not, when shall we see a KDE like looking Firefox? KDE folks, do something.

Mean while, those who expect to get their hands dirty with this version will have to wait for their FTP site is already slashdotted!

Re:Do something about extensions (1)

berzerke (319205) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553000)

...I have only seen ForecastFox that will work on the 1.5.x and the 2.0 series of Firefox.

Well, I have been running 2.0 since rc2, and I have all of the following extensions working: Adblock, Adblock Filterset.G updater, Forecastfox, Linky, and McAfee SiteAdvisor. While I realize this is a far cry from all the extensions, these are all the ones I use regularly. I'm quite sure the list of working extensions is far bigger than what I've listed.

Re:Do something about extensions (1)

Al Dimond (792444) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553024)

The KDE folks did do something. It's called Konq.

Maybe, in the spirit of Firefox's "IE Tab" extension, Konq could gain a "FF Tab" extension.

It would be almost as cool as porting vi to Plan 9!

Re:Do something about extensions (1)

Lothsahn (221388) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553046)

I maintain a firefox Theme, Orbit Grey. [mozilla.org]

Like many of my fellow theme developers, I'm very busy. Perhaps instead of complaining that the extensions are out of date, you could open up the source (it's just a jar file of css), convert the format to 2.0, and if you find any bugs, fix them? I'd be happy to include your fixes/updates in my theme and give you credit.

That's the great thing about open source. It's all out there, and if you want, you can update it. The whole reason I support Orbit Grey is that the previous version went unsupported by the author. But I'm a volunteer like everyone else, and I made no promises to be on time with Mozilla's release schedule. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to fix it!

However, I expect that you too may be too busy to convert the theme to version 2.0. If this is true, no worries, I'll be updating my theme in the coming days. I could still use your expertise in the following areas described on my site:

1) Medium sized buttons (artists, PLEASE send me an email) -- I have the buttons, working on integrating them now.

2) Theme the help menu (0.8.0)

I know this sounded like a shameless plug, and it kinda is, but it's annoying to hear people complaining about how the extensions where out of date when I've recieved 0 emails in the past 2 years for my theme with code fixes. People like to complain, but VERY FEW are willing to actually help. We're just volunteers (with lives) and our time is limited.

might wanna check your extensions first (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552832)

Tab Mix Plus is not FF2-compatible yet; the author says a new version should come along within a week or so. This is proving mighty irritating. I used both the regular close-tab button *and* the per-tab close buttons; now I only have the per-tab ones. Gah. Add features, folks, don't REMOVE them. :(

Other than that, it's definitely faster (except for one area - switching between already-loaded tabs is MUUUUCH faster in IE7. And no, that's nowhere near enough to get me to use IE7).

And is themeability now gone, or am I just not looking in the right spot? I don't see any way to change the look of this thing.

Maybe Opera will one day have a decent interface, and enough features for me not to need Extensions (apparently now renamed 'Add-Ons', and I can use a fast & lightweight browser.

Re:might wanna check your extensions first (1)

SRowley (907434) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552936)

The ability to add themes is now found in Tools > Add-ons under the Theme section.

Re:might wanna check your extensions first (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553012)

The ability to add themes is now found in Tools > Add-ons under the Theme section.

Awesome, thanks; I definitely didn't notice that! I prefer the old method of separate links for Tools>Extensions and Tools>Themes, but oh well, as long as it's still there.

Re:might wanna check your extensions first (1)

berzerke (319205) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553030)

And is themeability now gone, or am I just not looking in the right spot? I don't see any way to change the look of this thing.

Try looking under Tools -> Add-ons -> Themes tab.

Re:might wanna check your extensions first (1)

Darwin_Frog (232520) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553162)

The dev-build of TMP works fine in FF 2.0 for now. Been running it since RC1 and it has all the features it had before. It's on the author's home page.

Memory Consumption (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552844)

How's the memory footprint/consumption?

Originally that was FF's main selling point before it became what it is today. (well hopefully yesterday)

FF2 (1)

xming (133344) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552850)

I have running this for half day now (the real one not rc3), it feels a bit smoother. The sitebar add-on does work and they change the ctrl-s key binding so sage kb short-cut foes not work. Everything else is working as expected and build0in spell-checker is doing its work. It's a great release/

en-US version (-1, Redundant)

Geoffreyerffoeg (729040) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552864)

Note that the link is for the en-GB version. A lot of Slashdotters may prefer the en-US version [mozilla.org].

(Note that I haven't actually tested that file, since I'm on a Mac right now; I just changed the URL and made it a link for all you lazy people. If you have problems with letting me karma whore, mod me funny; I want this link to be visible, so I'm keeping the karma bonus.)

Slow clap. (-1, Troll)

matt me (850665) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552918)

Firefox 2.0 RC3 Firefox 2.0

Shit you. Sex off and come back to post when releases are fucking released. This ain't news.

November! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16552938)

From the article, "Since its first release, back in November 1.0, the web browsers..." Apparently November 1.0 was a productive month for web browsers. I'd love to do November over again. November 2.0 here we come!

For the sake of non-Windows users (2, Informative)

sakusha (441986) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552962)

Please don't make the first link in a post a blind link to a Windows executable.

A buncha extensions don't work (1)

gelfling (6534) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552976)

But FF2.0 goes out and tries to find them and apply them automatically so it tells you right away what's no longer working. So far FasterFox and MediaWrap and Google Send2Phone don't work. I haven't worked with it enough to discover what it is that DOES work better. I hope general IEishness and compatibility are improved.

New version (4, Interesting)

Dan East (318230) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552988)

The latest version is quite nice. The integrated spell checker is worth it alone (I had been using an extension, but having it integrated is so much nicer).

I thought I might could do away with Tab Mix Plus now, however it was quickly apparent that the extension is still a must. As a developer I'm too used to switching through multiple documents by history, not by some arbitrary linear order. So with Tab Mix Plus I can easily CTRL-TAB back and forth between a couple specific tabs, even if there are a dozen other tabs open. So I'm waiting for the author(s) to update it because it is no longer compatible.

Happily, the other extensions I use all had upgrades for 2.0. That was my biggest gripe about FireFox in the past. Especially a previous upgrade that I think was security-related. The version went from like 1.5.0.2 to 1.5.0.3 and suddenly 90% of my extensions weren't compatible. That was unacceptable, especially with such a seemingly small change in version number.

Dan East

Its not a day early (5, Informative)

Tama00 (967104) | more than 7 years ago | (#16552992)

Its tuesday here in Austalia, for all you who dont know, the main developer for Firefox lives in New Zealand!

SO it is ontime, not early.. you people of slashdot are just slow.

Software Update (3, Insightful)

Despero (918907) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553022)

I really wish it was out on Software Update already. That, in my opinion, was the best new feature in Firefox 1.5, and many more software programs should adopt it.

Quick Question; (2)

MaXiMiUS (923393) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553036)

Does anybody know of a Session Saver equivalent that works with 2.0? That's my single favorite extension, bar none.

Re:Quick Question; (3, Informative)

Sarusa (104047) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553100)

It's built in!

Options -> main -> startup -> when firefox starts -> show my windows and tabs from last time.

Re:Reply to Myself! (1)

MaXiMiUS (923393) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553102)

Turns out that's actually included as default functionality in 2.0! I wonder what other plugins/extensions/add-ons (whatever they're being called now..) I won't need anymore..

Did they fix the keyboard-go-dead problems? (1)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553066)

...because RC2 for MacOS X had massive problems whereby ALL keystrokes (typing in text fields on a page OR the browser search/URL bar) would simply stop working. This was most irritating when filling out forms and a MAJOR bug for a "release candidate", in my book.

About the only way to get keys to work again was to select+copy some text and paste it into a field. That would give you a 1 in 3 chance of reactivating the ability to type...

Did I mention the problem pops up with almost every new release on OS X? 1.0 did it, 1.5 previews did it...

Firefox2 v IE7 (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553078)

IE7 doesn't even work on my OS (Windows 2000). Guess it's going to have to be Firefox 2 then!

I'll wait for IceFox / IceWolf (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16553114)

Btw, the "Weasel" name is messed up for obvious marketing reasons.

There was Phoenix.
Then there was Firebird.
Then there was Firebird and Thunderbird.

Then Firebird became Firefox.
I was waiting for Thunderfox, but I guess the car company never sued.

But the original naming was about birds of elemental nature.

Why was Weasel chosen over something that people would actually use?

Why not keep Fox.
If not, why not Wolf.
I know Coyote is to hard.

New feature worth having (resume session) (1)

torpedo20 (823399) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553136)

Resuming your browsing session: The Session Restore feature restores windows, tabs, text typed in forms, and in-progress downloads from the last user session. It will be activated automatically when installing an application update or extension, and users will be asked if they want to resume their previous session after a system crash. To activate: Under "Options"- "Main" tab - from the drop down menu "When Firefox starts:" select "Show my windows and tabs from the last time". This feature is gold and alone make it worthwhile to upgrade.

Font Smoothing (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 7 years ago | (#16553160)

Any way I can smooth fonts in my browser without having Windows apply it to every other app? Also, Windows doesn't always smooth enough for me.
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