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Lik-Sang Is Out Of Business

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the sony-sony-sony dept.

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AKAImBatman writes "Thanks to Sony's heavy handed tactics, popular game importer Lik-Sang is closing its doors. All Lik-Sang customers are having their orders cancelled and refunded. Any attempt to place a new order redirects your web browser to the news of Lik-Sang's demise." From the announcement: "'Today is Sony Europe victory about PSP, tomorrow is Sony Europe's ongoing pressure about PlayStation 3. With this precedent set, next week could already be the stage for complaints from Sony America about the same thing, or from other console manufacturers about other consoles to other regions, or even from any publisher about any specific software title to any country they don't see fit. It's the beginning of the end... of the World as we know it', stated Pascal Clarysse, formerly known as the Marketing Manager of Lik-Sang.com. 'Blame it on Sony. That's the latest dark spot in their shameful track record as gaming industry leader. The Empire finally won, a few dominating retailers from the UK probably will rejoice the news, but everybody else in the gaming world lost something today.'" Many thanks to Sony for ruining it for the rest of us. I hope that your business model makes up for the customer goodwill you're lighting on fire today. Update: 10/24 21:34 GMT by Z : Eurogamer has Sony's response to Lik-Sang's accusations.

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BOYCOTT SONY! (5, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560302)

To add to my submission, I think we should outright BOYCOTT Sony. As consumers, we've put up with rootkits, massive price increases, being treated like criminals when we're customers, faulty products, and just about every other mistreatment imaginable. Well, I think it's ENOUGH. I draw the line at shutting down a perfectly legal and useful business.

If you're not already Boycotting Sony for their misdeeds, then I call upon you to stop purchasing ALL Sony products. Yes, that means no PSP, PS3, or PS2 stuff. (The PS2 and PSP games can be purchased used without majorly impacting a boycott, but it's better if anything Sony sits on the shelf.) More importantly, though, we have to hit Sony where it hurts! Which means no more Sony movies [sonypictures.com] , music [sonymusic.com] , and television [sonypictures.com] .

That means that we can't watch, purchase, or rent popular movies like:

  • James Bond: Casino Royale
  • Open Season
  • Monster House
  • Spiderman 3
  • Stranger Than Fiction
  • The Da Vinci Code
  • Zoom


It also means that we need to stop watching popular television shows like:

  • The King of Queens
  • JEOPARDY!
  • Wheel of Fortune
  • Ripley's Believe It or Not!
  • Dragon Tales
  • The Boondocks


Understandably, some of these are very entertaining pictures/shows that I (and I'm sure many others) would enjoy seeing. Unfortunately, a complete boycott means that every Sony product line must fail. So I ask you all, politely and humbly, will you boycott Sony? There is no excuse for their behavior, and I cannot in good conscience allow my dollars to support that behavior. If you feel the same way, then I would ask you to LOUDLY proclaim that you are joining the boycott.

Thank you.

P.S. If anyone has Sony contact info, please post it. A flood of angry but well-worded letters will help Sony pay attention to our displeasure.

P.P.S. Read the Lik-Sang announcement for yourself! Apparently, Sony Europe's execs are big customers of Lik-Sang!

/End Soapbox

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560390)

Doesn't make a difference, I wasn't watching any of those, wasn't buying music and certainly won't get a PS3 anyway.

AND YET YOU HAVEN'T CANCELLED YOUR PS3 PREORDER... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560394)

Love,

Kieth (Manager EB Games #47564)

Re:AND YET YOU HAVEN'T CANCELLED YOUR PS3 PREORDER (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560522)

You misspelled your name again, Keith.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

Graviteh (907587) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560456)

I agree. Sony has been treating us like crap. They have gone off the hook for far too long. I believe that the whole rootkit ordeal should have made Sony liable for something, but have you seen any lawsuits? I sure haven't. Corporations have too much power, but they depend on us, the people, for their success. We need to bring them to their knees. STOP BUYING THEIR PRODUCTS.

Boycotts don't work (4, Insightful)

Robmonster (158873) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560494)

Boycotts are often called for but they just don't work.

Even though this move against Lik-Sang is outrageous, it turns out that people just don't care enough to deprive themselves of entertainment.

What's the alternative? (5, Insightful)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560618)

Boycotts don't work because consumers don't like giving stuff up.

In this case, you could always just pirate it instead of buying. Still gives them mindshare, but no profits. Seem to me that's the only way you'd ever accomplish a Sony boycott.

Consumers are sheep; unless provided an equally-attractive alternative, they'll never really give anything they enjoy up, no matter how repugnant its production might be.

Re:What's the alternative? (2, Interesting)

lymond01 (314120) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560902)

Consumers are sheep.

You can call some people sheep all of the time, and you can call all people sheep some of the time, but you can't call all people sheep all of the time (yes, even Republicans...).

I, my good people, am Nike-Free going on 8 years. They definitely have the largest range of nice sportswear, but their business practices turn my stomach and close my wallet. Just have to decide to do it.

Re:Boycotts don't work (2, Insightful)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560700)

Boycotts are often called for but they just don't work.

They usually don't work because a good company diversifies its product line far too much. That's why Phillip Morris [wikipedia.org] can't be put out of business. They own too many key product lines.

Sony, however, has been scaling back their operations. As it stands right now, their electronics lines are in shambles after cheapening and/or withdrawing a huge number of them. Great stuff like the Clie and the Vaio are simply gone or no longer the great products they once were. As a result, Sony's bread and butter has been their entertainment division. The PS3 push is an attempt to grow that entertainment division by capturing the living room. By loudly making our position clear to the public, there's a good chance we could cause a major disruption in thier entertainment products.

Re:Boycotts don't work (1)

McNihil (612243) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560778)

"...here's a good chance we could cause a major disruption in thier entertainment products."

hahahaha... much like Windows was twarted because it was a shoddy product back in the day.

Sorry it doesn't fly like that, welcome to reality kid.

Re:Boycotts don't work (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560730)

Even though this move against Lik-Sang is outrageous, it turns out that people just don't care enough to deprive themselves of entertainment.

I do. I saw the trailer for Ghost Rider, and wanted to see it. Now that I know it's a Sony picture, I'm not going.

Fuck Sony. And fuck the UK courts too - what the hell is happening to that country?

Re:Boycotts don't work (1)

Buran (150348) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560864)

it turns out that people just don't care enough to deprive themselves of entertainment.

Heaven forbid anyone want to enjoy life and think of something outside of their jobs or stupid (as most is) family/friends infighting/drama. Wow, people want to enjoy themselves. Film at eleven!

Re:Boycotts don't work (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560886)

They also have too many customers. You'd need a powerful organization (plus a compelling message) to get the average Sony customer to be willing pass on a product they may prefer or pay more for a competetor's product. Most customers are probably only occasional buyers and have no idea who makes it or cares. They are going on features and cost. There is also the feeling that your boycott isn't going to make a dent, just like the feeling you get if you vote for a 3rd party candidate in the US.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (5, Informative)

_xeno_ (155264) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560498)

It also means you can't buy any music by "Weird Al" Yankovic. His label, Volcano [wikipedia.org] , is a subsidiary of Sony BMG. I'm sad to say I didn't realize this until after I got "Straight Outta Lynwood" home and noticed that, below the sticker that read "this CD does not conform to CD Audio specifications and may not play in all CD players" there was a Sony BMG logo.

So if you want to boycott Sony, you also have to boycott "Weird Al," something Slashdot may not enjoy doing [slashdot.org] .

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (5, Insightful)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560770)

So if you want to boycott Sony, you also have to boycott "Weird Al," something Slashdot may not enjoy doing.

I think we all need to send a polite letter to Mr. Yankovic that we cannot purchase his music because of his distributor. With any luck, that will add a semi-important figure to the cause.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

Trashhalo (985371) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560514)

I cant watch open season!? Oh no what will I evar do. This boycott is going to be cake

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560542)

The root kit CD's were enough for me to stop buying Sony products or contributing in any way to their bottom line. Not buying Sony products has become a matter of self-defense and monetary preservation.

If you really wanted to make a dent, I would suggest writing the advertising SPONSORS of Sony related TV shows, like Jeopardy and The King of Queens and tell them you have discontinued buying their products until they quit sponsoring entertainment that Sony has ownership in. Nothing like the threat of lost revenue to get a sponsor to seek other channels for their commercials.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

PriceIke (751512) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560920)

I quit buying Sony after last year's rootkit fiasco too. And coincidentally, a Sony product that my office purchased a few years ago suddenly failed this morning in a VERY embarrassing way. I have already sworn off Sony music AND consumer electronics equipment .. now I'm going to have to start paying attention to what movies they're distributing ..

Fortunately almost all the music I buy, I can buy straight from the artist. Pity about John Mayer, though.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560570)

So will you also be rallying troops to boycott Microsoft, a convicted company in both USA and Europe? A company who's products have caused infinitely more damage and wasted money and resources than anything Sony is in position to equal. Nah, I thought not, Mr Shill.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560742)

There's also Nintendo, you know. They're no angels, but have cleaned up their act.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

HunterZ (20035) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560606)

Woot! I was already boycotting Sony and didn't even know it.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560732)

Same here. I looked at the parent comment's lists and didn't see anything I cared for.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (2, Interesting)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560616)

As consumers, we've put up with rootkits, massive price increases, being treated like criminals when we're customers, faulty products, and just about every other mistreatment imaginable.


Not to mention acting like criminals themselves by lying about the their exploding batteries [cnn.com] . Most recently, they pulled batteries from their VAIO notebooks after trying to pin the blame on Dell, Toshiba, HP, etc. They had to admit that it was their own fault. Sorta. But then they said "Well, it could happen if the user bumps it." and "It could happen if the user misuses the laptop." What??? Aren't we talking about metal shavings being where they're not supposed to? What does that have to do with consumer use (or misuse) of the laptop?

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

Kamineko (851857) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560626)

Boycott, eh?


I don't really have much choice... they kinda forced the only online shop I use to shut down.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560634)

Can i still pirate Sony's movies and music, or are we boycotting them there as well?

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560640)

Done.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

El Torico (732160) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560670)

Based on their bad judgement, I think it may be time to start selling or shorting their stock. That will get the Senior Management's attention.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

NickFortune (613926) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560678)

I can't boycott Sony over this! It'd mean I'd have to call off the boycott I imposed over the rootkit fiasco.

Sony have gone out of their way, time and again, to show that they are no friend to their customer. Personally, I'm amazed that anyone is buying their stuff at all.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

jamar0303 (896820) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560680)

Exactly- Sony can't be allowed to do something like this. I currently live in mainland China- if one importer goes down there are a hundred more to choose from. But, I am actually a US citizen. What happens when I go back to the US? If I don't stand up for a situation other people are facing right now, even if it doesn't currently affect me, it will, eventually. I'll have to go back to America one day, and then I'll have to ask friends and family to help me import stuff. Who knows- soon customs may start searching people for signs of importing stuff and force them to leave it behind. This has to be stopped before it gets out of hand.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

Dan East (318230) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560760)

That means that we can't watch, purchase, or rent popular movies like:

What does watching have to do with purchasing or renting (or even buying tickets)?

Dan East

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560768)

Count me in. I am just one guy, but no more Sony for me. It was something that I was already semi-doing... but now it's on for real. No more Sony anything.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

twofidyKidd (615722) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560808)

I support a boycott of Sony. I own very little of their products to begin with, and I won't be buying any in the near or distant future. Enough is enough.

Re:BOYCOTT SONY! (1)

Dexx (34621) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560850)

I'm in. Just as I was gonna buy the new Wierd Al album too..

buy used (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560926)

I'm sure someone else already said this, but it's probably still fine to buy used.

WTF!?!?! (2, Insightful)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560312)

Sony's sues someone out fo business for selling their official products?

Re:WTF!?!?! (1)

RichMeatyTaste (519596) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560338)

Amazing isn't it?

Re:WTF!?!?! (1)

aadvancedGIR (959466) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560366)

That's exactly the point.

The real question is how the managed to win (1)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560428)

It would make sense that when you sell a product to someone, it's theirs to do with as they wish, but apparently not...

 

Re:The real question is how the managed to win (1)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560510)

Ultimately they (Sony) don't have to win, just backrupt them with nuisence suits.

What I don't understand is the logic behind suing them in the first place... They buy your products and sell them to others to increase your install base...

correct (1)

ProfBooty (172603) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560462)

If the grey market product is cheaper than the offically licensed product it hurts Sony's relationship with their customers, aka the Retail Stores, that sell their products.

Now the percentage of people who buy outside of the regular retail channel is probably pretty small, but given that Europeans pay more for the same product (DVDs, Games etc) it is believeable that the margins hurt Sony and the regular retail chains.

Re:correct (4, Insightful)

Hijacked Public (999535) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560704)

Photography has had a grey market for years and manufacturers have more or less resigned themselves to its existence. They take specific steps to protect their business arrangements, Canon USA will not provide warranty service for a non-Canon USA imported item, but they generally do not pressure retailers.

So camera manufacturers have figured out how to live with it, I'd like to see why Sony has gotten the idea that it is better to sue it out of existence.

Re:correct (1)

jamar0303 (896820) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560896)

I think that a large part of their gray-market problem is actually in China. They don't officially sell the PSP here, so everyone imports. Of course, you pay a premium for a 1.5FW PSP (I've seen prices of over $300 for a PSP with 1.5 firmware) but the "downgradable" PSPs are a lot cheaper (those are priced a lot closer to their US price). There is a gray market for DS stuff, but that's because the Chinese DS will only play Chinese games (so I've been told). People who want to play Euro/US/Japanese games need a US/JP/Euro DS.

Why they hate the grey market. (5, Insightful)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560682)

They were bypassing Sony's "official" channels and hurting their ability to price discriminate.

The 'grey market' is an equalizer; it's a basically unified marketplace that defies the attempts of the monopolists to charge different prices for the same thing in different places, by taking advantage of the cheap global transportation that we're blessed with today.

This is why it's so hated.

Would it be too harsh... (-1, Troll)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560328)

...to suggest "extreme" action against Sony? Like, you know, assassinating their suits, bombing their facilities, that kind of niceties.

Re:Would it be too harsh... (4, Funny)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560382)

I would think that's too harsh. Then again Sony uses their own batteries, so sooner or later their business will go up in flames anyway.

Re:Would it be too harsh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560412)

I hope you posted that through an anonimization service...

Re:Would it be too harsh... (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560464)

Hiring pirates to sink the shipment of PS3s to the US? I hear the russians sell some cheap submarines that could be used to torpedo freight ships once you know which ones transport the PS3s...

Re:Would it be too harsh... (1)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560662)

Yes, it would be too harsh.

*please mod informative, please mod informative*

Don't understand (4, Insightful)

pubjames (468013) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560378)


I really don't understand how Sony can do this kind of thing. Isn't this the kind of thing the World Trade Organisation is supposed to prevent? I thought that there was supposed to be essentially "free trade" between countries in the WTO. Or is it only free trade that benefits corporations that's allowed, not that which benefits us lowly consumers...

Re:Don't understand (5, Funny)

rkcallaghan (858110) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560506)

pubjames wrote:
Or is it only free trade that benefits corporations that's allowed, not that which benefits us lowly consumers...
See, you do understand.

~Rebecca

Way to go Sony. (5, Informative)

dpaluszek (974028) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560384)

You are only hurting your business, and complementing your competition.

Just like the above posters, I will not recommend nor buy anything from Sony. They are a hack company, and I'm done with them.

Re:Way to go Sony. (1)

PhotoBoy (684898) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560692)

Same here, fuck Sony I'll stick with the 360 and Wii for this generation.

Lik-Sang (1)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560400)

Sony has attacked lik-sang for massive damage.
('nuff said)

Sony's Fault (1, Insightful)

SQLz (564901) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560406)

Lik Sang's entire business revolved around shipping PSPs to Europe? I doubt it.

Re:Sony's Fault (2, Informative)

honkycat (249849) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560698)

No, but as they mention in their explanation, the foreseeable future of this is additional lawsuits striking at their other markets. Rather than run into the ground, they're doing the responsible thing and closing up while they still have the resources to refund/service their customers. Nice to see a company being responsible in this regard.

Re:Sony's Fault (2, Interesting)

PygmySurfer (442860) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560786)

No, but Sony's win sets precedent for future lawsuits. Sony could in turn sue Lik-Sang for PS2 and PS3 sales. Then Nintendo could do the same thing. Better for them to get out now than face more lawsuits.

Re:Sony's Fault (1)

yanos (633109) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560800)

That's not why they went out of business. Essensially, Sony took legal actions from EVERY GODAMN COUNTRY IN EUROPE. How are you supposed to deal with that many costly lawsuits?

Sad day for gamers everywhere (5, Informative)

TheBiGW (982686) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560410)

This is a sad day for gamers everywhere. Lik-sang were one of the finest gaming websites anywhere in the world. Lets hope the founders setup another website similar to lik-sang very shortly.

I wonder if play-asia.com are worried?

I bloody hope Play-Asia aren't next... (4, Informative)

Channard (693317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560628)

.. since I really don't give a monkeys about the PSP, but it's where I've had a bunch of region-free 360 games [play-asia.com] from for half the UK shelf price. Microsoft have shown no sign of legal action against them yet, but given that Play Asia also sell Sony stuff, I'm a little worried.

This isn't the first time Lik-Sang have run into trouble. They changed hands a year or two ago when they were being sued for selling mod-chips. I thought they'd at least be safe now, but no. Perhaps Sony should have funnelled the money they spent on the lawsuit into making their SoundStage software half-decent and producing an MP3 player that doesn't use their shitty ATRAC format.

Huh? (1)

QuantaStarFire (902219) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560426)

Why the hell would Sony give a shit about imports? Because it hurts sales in Europe, but not in China? Who cares? All the money goes to the same source in the end, so what's the big deal?

Re:Huh? (1)

Hittite Creosote (535397) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560688)

Well, it was a London court, so I'll explain in a UK centric way. So they can try make the Brits pay more. As everyone else does as well. Samsung BD-P1000 Blu-Ray Disc Player by Samsung : $999 from amazon.com Samsung BD-P1000/XEU Blu Ray Multi Region Capable DVD Player: £999 from amazon.co.uk i-Tunes track: $0.99 i-Tunes track: £0.77 1 dollar: £0.54 In other words, so they can rip individual customers off. That's why they don't want to give individuals the right to import.

Re:Huh? (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560940)

OK, but why would a UK court support that position?

Re:Huh? (1)

jamar0303 (896820) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560746)

They don't "officially" sell the PSP in mainland China. I think HK is covered (note that I don't mention Taiwan) and it's possible to get it repaired at service centers on the mainland, though. All PSPs bought in mainland China are gray-market.

Remember, kids (1)

giorgiofr (887762) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560436)

Regulation is good.

Let's turn it back at sony (1)

scenestar (828656) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560444)

Allright, I've had it. from now on NO MORE SONY.

If I absolutely positively must have any of its media(games movies cds etc) or electronics products i'll either warez it or buy it second hand.

None of my money will ever support those greedy assholes again.

Two words for sony (-1, Flamebait)

Trashhalo (985371) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560460)

Fuck You.

Posted from my Vaio laptop *cough*

Re:Two words for sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560502)

Get a Mac.

Re:Two words for sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560714)

But you'll still have Sony batteries.

Re:Two words for sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560750)

Folks at home, that '*cough*' was Trashhalo coughing up blood after being hit by a huge battery explosion. (For massive damage)

RIP Lik-Sang (2, Informative)

noname4444 (972861) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560484)

For anyone who isn't very familiar of Lik-Sang, they were a Hong Kong based company who would ship video games all over the world. Easily one of (if not the) best import websites on the internet.

Out of my many transactions with them, there was an error only once. A simple call to customer service and they quickly corrected everything. This is truely a sad sad day.

Re:RIP Lik-Sang (1)

speculatrix (678524) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560862)

Lik-sang are also a customer of ours, and a good one too. We're very sad to hear of their plite.

Cry me a river... (1)

peu (163472) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560492)

One dollar here says Lik-Sang will continue their activity from other place where Sony strong arm is not so strong.

Its good PR to be in their actual position...

Where should they go? (1)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560866)

You are aware they were based out of Hong Kong, right? At least that's my understanding.

I'm not sure where they should move to, if they want to sell Asian video games to the Western market. I would have thought they were safe there. Sony probably has enough political heft in Japan to make that a non-starter, and I assume that the Chinese would probably happily make life miserable for a "foreign" company in order to score points with the West during the run-up to the Olympics (in the same way that they occasionally crack down on piracy). Russia is busy giving sucky-sucky to everyone and their cousin in order to get admission to the WTO...

Maybe they could put their servers in Sealand, handle the financial transactions through the Cayman Islands or Switzerland, and drop-ship the packages from anonymous storefronts in major cities in Southeast Asia?

Cripes, at that point it seems more like operating a terrorist cell than a videogames exporter. Course, if Sony ran the world, there wouldn't be a difference.

Replacement? (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560500)

So what's a good alternative website for ordering gear from?

Also, I'm looking for GBA game dev "home-brew" related hardware. Any recommended sites?

Cheers

Re:Replacement? (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560602)

you can try play-asia.com, dunno how their prices and services are to lik-sang. i know they operate in a similar manner, but only beer to their site a couple of times ever.

Re:Replacement? (2, Informative)

Kamineko (851857) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560812)

www.play-asia.com are pretty cool. I've ordered various obscure gadgetry from them in the past with no trouble at all. ^_^

I also use a site called 'Jandaman's Import Video Game Accessories', but I'm not sure if they're still online.

your all on crack (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560518)

Sony was right to do what they did in this case.

Lik-Sang was given the right to distribute products within a certain region, they broke the terms of their contract with sony and now they're closing their doors, and blaming it on sony.

You make the bed you sleep in.. Lik-Sang chose to go outside the bounds of their contract, and are trying to ride high on a ton of anti-sony fanboy diatribe.

boohoo for them.

btw.. this happens all the time.. it's called the "grey market" or "black market".. it happens with everything from automobiles to tvs

Re:your all on crack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560696)

However right you think they might be, it's still bad PR for Sony. They deserve every bit of it.

Re:your all on crack (5, Funny)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560720)

One second...

Would you like to just temporarily remove those Sony salesman's genitals from your mouth and repeat what you just said? I couldn't understand you the first time...

Re:your all on crack (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560934)

The right to sell your own property is inalienable.

Well, crap. (4, Insightful)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560536)

I may not have been the biggest Lik-Sang customer ever, in fact apart from a few relatively small purchases I mainly used their site for window-shopping, drooling over all the stuff I couldn't afford yet but wanted to save up for. They were often the only way to avoid the cesspits of eBay for certain things, and they always went above and beyond in terms of customer service for me.

Sure, they were a Hong Kong import/export warehouse who wrote websites in broken English, but they really seemed to care about making people happy more than the rest of them that just want to shift merchandise. They had news. They had reviews. They had style.

I feel like I've just lost the modern Internet version of the classic little mom-and-pop shop that always had the coolest stuff.

clarification please (4, Interesting)

free space (13714) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560562)

I read the linked articles and I can't get it..is this a copyright infringement lawsuit or an equipment safety one?

Sony keeps talking about voltage levels and such but the suit is always labelled as "intellectual property". Which is it?

Also, in the case it's IP, doesn't the doctrine of first sale allow anyone to resell the copyrighted stuff any way he or she wishes?

If you can't beat them, sue them to death (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560564)

Sony is simply using the perfected in the usa method of suing a company to death. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong, the legal fees required to fight such things are monumental. Sony went out of their way to kill their company there is no "if" "and"s or "but"s about it. Had Sony been interested in a fair lawsuit they would have brought just one up against them with multiple charges rather than multiple suits with individual charges.

Just A Prelude Perhaps (3, Interesting)

blueZhift (652272) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560592)

Too bad for Lik-Sang. They sold a lot of cool stuff and was definitely near the top of the list if you wanted to import consoles or games. While one can understand Sony's behaviour from a certain point of view, it still seems really odd to go after a company that actively promotes their products. If Sony is in such bad shape, that the perceived losses due to Lik-Sang's activities are significant to them, then I wonder if the end of Lik-Sang is a prelude to the end of Sony if the PS3 transition goes poorly. Just how close to the edge of failure is Sony? Will Korean archrival Samsung come in and buy what's left if Sony totally tanks? Yeah, that Samsung part is total wild outta the a** speculation, but it is widely known that Sony is not in the best of shape.

Sony not the only one (2, Interesting)

Noonian Soong (1016626) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560600)

It's a pity Lik Sang closes because I really liked that shop. It was especially easy to order there because they had bank accounts in many countries so I didn't have to pay for international bank transfers.
I also have to add that Sony is not the only company that restricted game imports from Japan. Nintendo has done it before with the N64 and as much as I like Nintendo, I have never understood the reason for that restriction. It's the same with DVDs - if the publisher in my country produces an acceptable version, only a few people will import the game/DVD just to get it a few days earlier. If the localized version is inferior to the Japanese version, more people will import it. So it's just a simple market mechanism and why should a company bother to change this?

Sony Sucks - Here's Why (0, Redundant)

N8F8 (4562) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560658)

Seriously, I can't remember the last time I bought something by Sony.

DRM Hell
Proprietary media formats
Proprietary Memory Hardware
NO Post-Sale Support

They've been crapping on customers for a decade.

Fishy? (4, Interesting)

muel (132794) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560690)

Nothing in this news report explains exactly why Lik-Sang is closing. It makes mention of action against the reselling of PSPs, but it sells plenty of Nintendo hardware and other systems' software...IANAL, but I don't see any precedents set in the most recent ruling that affect software (nor do I see Nintendo legal action brewing on the horizon). Is this a case of Sony being aggressive behind the public's back and ordering Lik-Sang to shut its doors without saying why to avoid future action? Is Lik-Sang using this opportunity to dump the business and divert potentially angry customers at a red herring? This story is dying for more research and explanation.

Double standards and stupid (3, Informative)

Tellarin (444097) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560734)

Sony suing Lik-Sang is one of the most stupid things I've seen a company do.

And besides that, it is also a obvious example of double standards. Even Sony directors were huge clients of Lik-Sang.

For example (as stated in the note):
- Ray Maguire (Managing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd)
- Alan Duncan (UK Marketing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd)
- Chris Sorrell (Creative Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd)
- Rob Parkin (Development Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited)

I'll be avoiding Sony stuff after this...

This seals the deal. (1)

Maul (83993) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560752)

I won't be purchasing a PS3. Ever.

Lik-Sang offered great repair products (1)

KIFulgore (972701) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560762)

Now where will I get driver bits that open NES and SNES carts to replace the batteries? Not to mention their many controller-to-USB adapters. So many cool legal products... just gone now.

This goes with my theory that about 25 mega companies (Disney, Sony, Coke, Time-Warner-AOL, RJ Reynolds, Haliburton, etc.) basically control the whole world. Maybe 50.

Does anyone remember the old Sony? (5, Insightful)

William_Lee (834197) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560784)

The one that used to actually make great TVs, decent quality, feature rich consumer electronics devices, revolutionized and revived console gaming with the PSX, after revolutionizing portable music with the walkman?!

Didn't think so!

Ever since Sony acquired large media properties, the old Sony has been slowly dismantled piece by piece, as one horrible business decision after another is foisted on the consumer by the influence of the media divisions. If Sony wasn't so concerned about defending their media units (dvds,cds,film,etc.), we wouldn't have had things like the root kit fiasco, crippled MP3 players, and $600 gaming systems. We also might have a company that focuses on what they did best, delivering consumer electronics to a willing market.

This is just the latest in a string of strong arm tactics from a company that has lost its roots and its way. Apparently, hitting them in the wallet is the only chance of getting them to change. Maybe if the PS3 flops, they will be forced to reexamine their structure and strategy.

I'm all for the calls of BOYCOTT! I wasn't going to buy an overpriced PS3 anyways, but I'm not going to be buying other Sony products either.

Lik-Sang was a great, quirky outfit. They'll be sorely missed!

Cue the photoshops (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560798)

It's not capitalism when YOU do it!

Seriously, is it now okay in the UK to ban customers from reselling any products?

WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16560870)

Strategery...

sony mgmt & the art of shit-crapping-ur-brand-image...


Furthermore, Sony have failed to disclose to the London High Court that not only the world wide gaming community in more than 100 countries relied on Lik-Sang for their gaming needs, but also Sony Europe's very own top directors repeatedly got their Sony PSP hard or software imports in nicely packed Lik-Sang parcels with free Lik-Sang Mugs or Lik-Sang Badge Holders, starting just two days after Japan's official release, as early as 14th of December 2004 (more than nine months earlier than the legal action). The list of PSP related Sony Europe orders reads like the who's who of the videogames industry, and includes Ray Maguire (Managing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Alan Duncan (UK Marketing Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Chris Sorrell (Creative Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd), Rob Parkin (Development Director, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Limited), just to name a few.


IANAMBA

Wont have to Boycott (0, Troll)

jlebrech (810586) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560890)

Wii Wiil Bii Too Biisii playiin on our wii's

Shame on Sony for protecting peoples IP... (1)

King_of_Crunk (763543) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560892)

You make it sound as if all they did was sell "official" Playstation products. Sony's problem with this outfit stems way back and was mainly centered around products sold which enabled pirated versions of their games to be played on their systems.

Now seriously say you are a software developer which I am sure some of you are and you have a retail outlet selling one of your products. Along with that product sits another product which cercumvents the licensing of the product your selling as well as the licensing of most everyone elses software. Sure they are selling your software but honestly when atleast the majority of the customers to that retail store are going there to purchase the item used to run your software for free what diffrence does it make that they sell your software as well.

Lets face it people Lik-Sang made their name selling items used mainly to pirate games for consoles and are now hiding behind the fact that they then sold a few PSP's. I guarentee you Sony did not fight Lik-Sang just because they sold PSP's and to flame a company for protecting their's as well as other's intelectual property well...

Conveniently copy-pastable letter of protest : (1)

Hitto (913085) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560900)

"Hello sony,

It has come to my attention that your legal attacks against the online retailer lik-sang.com has lead to its closure. I had supported this retailer in the past, and some of their items lead me to purchase more sony products.

Due to your unethical legal attacks on them, I have decided to boycott your company. I have been a gamer for my entire life, so this is no small commitment.

I look forward to the games of your competitors, and hope you fail."

I'm not going to hand out any contact info, you guys are smart enough to google it.

Kill Sony, buy a PS3! (1)

Penguin's Advocate (126803) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560916)

If you really want to hurt sony, go out and purchase the expensive version of the PS3! If you do that, and then don't buy any of their games, movies, cd's, etc, they might actually go out of business. (I admit I will have a hard time not buying games... but Sony has made me sad, and I see now that they really do need to be taken down a few notches)

I'm goin' home! *tantrum* (1)

Mortanius (225192) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560918)

Flamebait me if you will, but it sounds to me that Lik-Sang is going the crybaby route and taking their toys and going home, hoping that people will, as have already on slashdot, go for the zomg boycott sony!@# approach.

Well played.

Remember this (1)

Varitek (210013) | more than 7 years ago | (#16560942)

Remember this when some big corporation starts whining about government regulation of the market. They don't want a free market. They want government regulation that favours them.
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