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Jack Thompson vs. Mortal Kombat

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the fight! dept.

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Nate writes to mention the news that Jack Thompson has issued a cease and desist for the new Mortal Kombat:Armageddon title. Says Mr. Thompson: "It has today come to my attention that the newly recently Mortal Kombat: Armageddon contains an unauthorized commercial exploitation of my name, photograph, image, and likeness within the game." Thompson's likeness has appeared on websites in the game over the last few days as a result of his construction in the 'build-a-fighter' mode. His image is not actually a selectable character in the game, a fact he's chosen to skirt in his demands to Midway. If that's not enough Jack Thompson news for today, Game|Life has the video and commentary on Thompson's dressing down by the judge in the Bully case. Video courtesy of the Destructoid site.

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"Celebrity" (5, Insightful)

Enoxice (993945) | more than 7 years ago | (#16610884)

Once you are a public figure (or 'celebrity', I guess) you give up certain privacy rights. You don't see Dubya suing SNL for using his likeness, do you?

Thompson needs to seriously get a grip.

Re:"Celebrity" (4, Insightful)

PsychicX (866028) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611480)

So let's see the list of problems here:
  1. As the parent mentions, he's a public figure. That puts his likeness up for grabs.
  2. The game is user moddable, and this is a user mod. I could do an HL2 model of JT (theoretically) and shoot him up, and apparently that'd be Valve's fault.
  3. He doesn't actually have an explanation of why any of this is illegal -- he's a lawyer and he doesn't like it, therefore it must be illegal.
  4. He's already in danger of being held in contempt of court, you'd think he'd at least wait a couple weeks before making it clear he's a nutcase, again.

Re:"Celebrity" (1)

techpawn (969834) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611904)

Yeah, but the Midway contract for promoting the game was signed well before this contempt thing came up. To be completely honest, if it wasn't for his bitching I wouldn't even know A)There's a new MK game or B)There's a create fighter mode...

Re:"Celebrity" (1)

beckerist (985855) | more than 7 years ago | (#16612298)

Well put, and in fact, it was because of this story that I went to my local Best Buy on my lunch today! I'm now the proud new owner of a fire-spitting, banshee screaming Jack Thompson!

FYI: On lunch I successfully beat Carl "CJ" Johnson but got my ass handed to me by a bully of sorts...

Re:"Celebrity" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16612088)

"The game is user moddable, and this is a user mod. I could do an HL2 model of JT (theoretically) and shoot him up, and apparently that'd be Valve's fault. "

Ok I want to find a model of him. That would be a great game. Someone need to make a lvl where all of the monsters are him.

Re:"Celebrity" (4, Interesting)

IcyNeko (891749) | more than 7 years ago | (#16612548)

There should be a www.jackthompsonmods.com, dedicated to making Jack Thompson mods for every game. .. which will last until JT finds out and has the site sued.

Re:"Celebrity" (2, Interesting)

idontgno (624372) | more than 7 years ago | (#16613856)

Well..

  1. Yes. But every public figure thinks they're the exception to this rule.
  2. Apparently, it's someone's fault, preferably the one with the deepest pockets and greatest publicity potential.
  3. Welcome to the world of civil litigation. It's wrong 'cuz I said so, unless the courts (and all subsequent appeals) say otherwise. And then I'll just sue again, in a different jurisdiction, for a trivially different cause of action. Lather, rinse, repeat, ???, PROFIT!
  4. A mad dog doesn't care that people think it's mad. It's mad, you see? It's too crazy to care that what people think. Or, probably, crazy enough to (in the immortal words of Adam Savage) "reject your reality and substitute his own", one in which he's a crusading hero and a lionized and adored leader of The Forces of Light.

Re:"Celebrity" (1)

Gothic_Walrus (692125) | more than 7 years ago | (#16614882)

The game is user moddable, and this is a user mod. I could do an HL2 model of JT (theoretically) and shoot him up, and apparently that'd be Valve's fault.

Well, wasn't it Rockstar's fault that a user mod allowed people to have wild sex in GTA: San Andreas? According to our buddy Jack, that was definitely the case. True, the content was on the physical disc, but since there wasn't any way to access it sans mod, I think it falls into the same general category.

Blaming Valve for that - or, here, blaming Activision for the create a fighter screenshot - seems to be right in line with his previous actions.

Re:"Celebrity" (1)

smithpg1002 (542353) | more than 7 years ago | (#16627090)

Actually, in the case of GTA, the company does hold the responsibility for the content that was put on the CD, whether it was available via hack or some secret code or frely available. While the ESRB system does have it's share of problems, it represented the game as a Mature (M) rating based on violence and drug use/content. With the hack, this is a misrepresentation of the content of the game. It would be about the same as a comparison of Die Hard and Basic Instinct both getting a Restricted (R) rating, but for very different reasons. If the "hot-coffee" mod had been a total user-modification, then Rockstar cannot be held liable for it, because they reasonably could not control what content could be added and distributed via the Internets, or other means. But in this case they created and included, either intentionally or not on the production CD/DVD. This could be compared to Toyota, knowingly or not, including a faulty breaking system and being held liable for deaths, or a drunk driver killing a family. That being said, I think, as probably everyone with a passing idea of the first amendment, is that freedom of speech is a two way street. Mr. Thompson believes that his views on the game should be heard, which they should, but he should not be allowed to infringe on someone else's ideas, in this case using the media and the court system. But the way I see it, is that in reality Mr. Thompson doesn't actually care about violence in video games, but is probably setting himself up for a political run in the future, either state seat or federal. This being assumed that he doesn't just fall flat on his face in the current case. Politicians and potential ones need a platform, a crusade. Along with that, to be credible, they need a track record of positive results from that crusade. Video games are an easy target right now, just as movies were in the Howard Hughes days and music during the 80's and early 90's with the introduction of "gangster-rap". Personally I have no problem with violent video games or even with the idea of games like Bully. But it seems that Mr. Thompson is trying to convince people that keeping these types of games away from the public will stop Columbine type events or that bullying in schools will stop. Yes, I do know that his arguement is Amazon.com and the like are selling the game without an ESRB rating which means that they could potentially be selling a game to a minor in pre-order that might be given a rating of Mature. Now, since the ESRB rating is still voluntary and not recognized by state or federal court, this shouldn't have even made it to the courts to begin with. A better arguement, while still completely flawed, is that Rockstar, and the distribution channels were (not a legal term) willfully endangering a child. But this legal precident was set to protect children from physical abuse and neglect, not video games, movies, or T.V. I think most people here would agree that GTA or others like it should not be purchased by parents for a 10 year old. But it insights about as much violent tendencies as that same child watching an episode of 24 or Lost, or whatever the popular show is now. I think the resources could be better spent on making the ESRB a recognized rating system for video games, much like the motion picture industry, as it is now still a voluntary rating system. But since most all video games use this system, we could also spend the resources to help educate the public on the importance of the ratings the games receive. Much like everyone can now assume what the likelyhood of content is for a PG/PG-13/R rated movie is, parents can have a better understanding of why a game would receive such a rating.

Re:"Celebrity" (1)

randyest (589159) | more than 7 years ago | (#16628064)

If you're wondering why no one replied to your well-thought-out and very-intellectual post you might want to preview it for yourself. It's an eye-gouging WALL OF TEXT!

Please consider using <BR> tags or, if that's too hard, switch to "Plain Old Text" mode and hit "ENTER" occasionally.

Re:"Celebrity" (1)

smithpg1002 (542353) | more than 7 years ago | (#16628956)

The minute I saw it posted I realized the stupid mistake I made. Thank you for the very nice comments on the post.

Re:"Celebrity" (1)

Zelucifer (740431) | more than 7 years ago | (#16615628)

Well, assuming his knowledge of gaming is comparable to what it seems to be... he probably can't tell the difference between user-created content and official avatars.
However, being a public parody would not protect "Mortal Kombat" if they used his image. Mortal Kombat is a for profit game, not intended as a parody. For-Profit parodies are in a very murky legal area. On the other hand, a game site using his "avatar" as a joke would be perfectly in the clear (well, assuming decent lawyers were involved).

Re:"Celebrity" (1)

Chmcginn (201645) | more than 7 years ago | (#16631920)

For-Profit parodies are in a very murky legal area.

The key is that you're making fun of what you're using... In the Supreme Courts words, parody "is the use of some elements of a prior author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part, comments on that author's works." So 'The Wind Done Gone' is perfectly legal, because it's using 'Gone with the Wind' to comment on... "Gone with the Wind".

Re:"Celebrity" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16615762)

Who sued Larry Flint and then a movie was made about it. It is the same thing here. It will be thrown out just like what happened to that suit. So does Jack know anything about previous cases which fits the bill?

Re:"Celebrity" (1)

millennial (830897) | more than 7 years ago | (#16616412)

2. The game is user moddable, and this is a user mod. I could do an HL2 model of JT (theoretically) and shoot him up, and apparently that'd be Valve's fault.
JT doesn't care who makes the content. If there is inappropriate, offensive, etc. content available for the game, he blames the publishers. This is exactly like when he blamed the makers of The Sims for all the adult-oriented user content that others made for the game.

Re:"Celebrity" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16616870)

4. He's already in danger of being held in contempt of court, you'd think he'd at least wait a couple weeks before making it clear he's a nutcase, again.

I think you're missing the point when it comes to this one, PsychicX. Jack NEEDS to keep up his attacks because he is preparing for a political career. He wouldn't want his future voter base to think he's a coward, would he? It's clear that he is positioning himself as the courageous David who makes a stand against the evil Goliath of the multi-million-dollar games industry and the judges in their pockets.

In the end, he'll be able to tell his (Fundamentalist Christian) supporters that he never gave up the good fight, even though the corrupt courts tried to shut him up. And y'know what? He'll probably succeed. Get ready to say hello to Congressman / Senator / PRESIDENT Thompson!

Re:"Celebrity" (2, Funny)

Foobar of Borg (690622) | more than 7 years ago | (#16618334)

He's already in danger of being held in contempt of court, you'd think he'd at least wait a couple weeks before making it clear he's a nutcase, again.


Well, at least the next time a judge finds him in contempt of court, the judge can simply rip off his head with the spine still dangling and declare "Fatality!"

5. He's a waste of court time (1)

msobkow (48369) | more than 7 years ago | (#16619572)

This humanoid has spent more time in the media and courts trying to suck money he doesn't deserve from game companies than any other single individual I've ever read about.

He's not a real lawyer. He's a professional thief who uses the courts as the tools of his trade.

Re:5. He's a waste of court time (1)

EricTheMad (603880) | more than 7 years ago | (#16623824)

He's not a real lawyer. He's a professional thief who uses the courts as the tools of his trade.

I thought that was the definition of a lawyer.

Re:"Celebrity" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16626072)

You realize that Jack Thompson is actually the only lawyer that is certified as being *SANE* in the state of Florida?

I bet he will win too (1)

tont0r (868535) | more than 7 years ago | (#16610890)

The same thing happened with City of Heroes when people started making The Hulk and Wolverine. I would imagine that the same would apply here.

Re:I bet he will win too (2, Insightful)

sqlrob (173498) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611002)

Lesse, trademarked superheros in a superhero game vs. parody of a public figure

Yeah, it's the same thing and Thompson will win </sarcasm>

Re:I bet he will win too (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16611038)

Hell. I made Jack Thompson on City Of Villians. His battle cry is "Stop or I'll Sue!"

Re:I bet he will win too (2, Interesting)

Lostconfused (1019042) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611044)

The two issues are a bit different. The characters made in city of heroes were infringing on the copyright that marvel has to them. While here, Jack Thompson's likeness is used without his permission. The legal issues made out of these two events would probably be somewhat different

Re:I bet he will win too (1)

MyDixieWrecked (548719) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611130)

The same thing happened with City of Heroes when people started making The Hulk and Wolverine. I would imagine that the same would apply here.

well, not exactly. Marvel owned the trademarks to the likenesses of those characters in the City of Heroes game. CoH was competing with a similar franchise, so it was construed as a trademark violation.

this mortal kombat thing not only lets you create a likeness of a real person, but also is probably protected by the same laws that protect parody.

Re:I bet he will win too (1)

Frenchy_2001 (659163) | more than 7 years ago | (#16613358)

Actually, Marvel did not win against Cryptic on that case, After a few months in court, both parties reach a settlement which resulted in... nothing against Cryptic (or maybe a payment) and absolutly no incidence on the costume creator. They just started to hit on replica costumes (ie: if you create a costume close to a Marvell character with a similar name, expect a name change from the Game Masters).

You can read more here:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/675/675667p1.html [ign.com]

So, I would not expect him to win. There is no precedent that a feature allowing to create custom characters that *could* look like someone real or copyrighted is illegal, as it has *MANY* legal uses.

Re:I bet he will win too (1)

Babbster (107076) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635760)

You missed one of the results of Marvel's suit against City of Heroes: Cryptic is developing the upcoming Marvel MMOG. I think you can pretty much call the whole situation a big win by Cryptic since they not only didn't have to pay Marvel any money but in fact are now cashing Marvel checks. :)

Re:I bet he will win too (1)

semifamous (231316) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611180)

Except The Hulk and Wolverine are trademarked characters.

And as far as I know, parodies of trademarked/copyrighted stuff is still legal in this country, isn't it? And doesn't this qualify as parody? And is Jack Thompson's face/likeness a registered trademark?

Re:I bet he will win too (1)

Sage Gaspar (688563) | more than 7 years ago | (#16614822)

There's a lot of armchair lawyers that will tell you what would've happened one way or the other, but the case actually got settled before the ruling. For a fun time, start a post about it on the CoH official forums. The mods there instavanish any discussion about it.

Basically, no one's had the balls to take it to court and find out yet. It's inevitable that it'll happen someday, though.

Re:I bet he will win too (1)

AnotherBrian (319405) | more than 7 years ago | (#16620058)

City of Heroes didn't do anything wrong in this case because they didn't make those Marvel characters. They had a character creator where a user could alter the attributes of the characters, skin colors, pants length, pants color, mustache, beard, hair length, hair color like an expanded version to those police face flip books that let you come up with a suspect's face. It would be completely unreasonable for CoH to have to include some code that would reject certain combinations of attributes.

Jack thompson's request is equally baseless. It would also be baseless even if MK has made an actual Jack Thompson character skin from an actual picture of him.

FP LOSERS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16610892)

HA!

Jack Thompson is.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16610910)

A dumb fuck if I've ever seen one.

Here it is... (5, Funny)

Recovering Hater (833107) | more than 7 years ago | (#16610932)

The obligatory- "FINISH HIM!" hahah. :)

Re:Here it is... (1)

gt_mattex (1016103) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611728)

Extra points for pulling off a babality.

Re:Here it is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16612424)

He has already pulled that off on himself.

Jack Thompson is fabulous! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16610940)

He did a great job in abusing the clueless media (especially Slashdot with its amateurish "journalists") to promote the entire Rockstar product line and now goes on to Mortal Kombat.

Jack Thompson - Hero of the video game industry!

I'd already preorder "Bully", despite it isn't my custome to pay for games.

Finish Him!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16610980)

What would be the coolest fatality to perform on Thompson?

I'm a fan of Sub Zero's head spinal upper cut decapitation.

Discuss.

Re:Finish Him!! (1)

TranscendentalAnarch (1005937) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611186)

Rip his heart out, still beating, like Kano.

Re:Finish Him!! (2, Insightful)

BadMrMojo (767184) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611492)

You really think Jack Thompson has a heart?

Re:Finish Him!! (3, Funny)

Atheose (932144) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611602)

It's probably all black and twisty, and comprised of the smaller hearts of children.

Re:Finish Him!! (1)

TranscendentalAnarch (1005937) | more than 7 years ago | (#16617628)

Hmm, perhaps something more painful then, like Reptile's Acid Spit fatality.

I would have suggested Sub-Zero's fatality... (1)

The Last Gunslinger (827632) | more than 7 years ago | (#16614484)

...but that would have presumed this asshat possesses a spine to rip out.

Nah. Use Sub-Zero's OTHER fatality! (1)

Cybrex (156654) | more than 7 years ago | (#16641415)

I think that Jack deserves Sub-Zero's fatality from MK: Deadly Alliance, wherein he rips out not just the head and spine but the entire fraggin' skeleton!

A bit corny, but oh-so-satisfying!

I think... (4, Funny)

thoriphes (984506) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611008)

...he just needs to UP, UP+BACK, BACK, DOWN+HK his way for a FRIENDSHIP!!! [wikipedia.org]

Re:I think... (1)

ShadowsHawk (916454) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611814)

A friendly gamer would destroy his crusade. Perhaps that's why he's raising hell on this one.

FIRST POST!!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16611014)

O H MaN I MADE ThE IDRfIRST POST!!!!11111

Dammit, when will these nutballs learn? (2)

Channard (693317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611060)

Kicking up a storm only serves to sell more copies of the game. Especially when the game in question is mediocre best. You know, it wouldn't surprise me if Jack Thompson was being paid by Midway to come up with this nonsense. After all, it worked for Rockstar. Manhunt and State of Emergency were both crappy games, yet sold well due in part fo the hype generated around them. And Bully, while not being completely crappy, certainly is a rental-only title and nowhere near up the standard of the GTA games. Mortal Kombat Armageddon, too, is pretty average. Even if Jack Thompson is for real, surely he can't be so stupid as to realize that he's helping sales of the games.

Re:Dammit, when will these nutballs learn? (3, Interesting)

pianoman113 (204449) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611232)

Jack Thompson is the greatest form of Astroturfing ever invented. Game companies hire Jack Thompson to publically denounce or sue them to generate publicity.

It is absolutely brilliant.

I need to go and get my JD now...

Re:Dammit, when will these nutballs learn? (2, Informative)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611438)

Mediocre? The few reviews I've read had mostly good things to say about this title raiting it in the 80s and some in the 90s [gamerankings.com] . I haven't played it myself so I can't say for certain, but several of my friends have purchased it already and have raved about it... I lost interested in the MK series when the went 3D (I've been playing a lot of UMK3 in the Xbox Live Arcade though). However I must say that the ability to create a character that looks just like Jack Thompson as definitely made me interested... Perhaps I'll pick this title up. If midway didn't hire JT to market this game, they sould at least stend him some cookies, I'm sure they'll make money off of this.

Re:Dammit, when will these nutballs learn? (1)

HappySqurriel (1010623) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611774)

Kicking up a storm only serves to sell more copies of the game.

"Shock Marketing" is only really effective if your product gets a lot of coverage in the mainstream media and becomes a topic of conversation at the water-cooler or coffee machine; Jack Thompsons, by him self, doesn't have enough influence to make a tame (by today's standards) videogame like Mortal Kombat sell well. The reason Jack Thompson is doing this (and all of his grandstanding) is because it increased name recognition and furthers his political career.

I know that this may seem like a foreign concept for many of us, but there are Millions of people who know so little about modern videogames that when they hear about the "Hot-Coffee Mod" they think that Rockstar is selling a sex simulator to their children; when they hear about "Oblivion Nudity Mods" they think that Bioware is selling a game with rampant Boobies to their children; and when they hear about this they will think that Midway created a character exactly like Jack Thompson to violently attack him. Most people don't understand what a mod is and don't understand how character creation (and customization) works.

What should really scare you is that Jack Thompson is effective and his grandstanding has a lot of fans; just look for blogs against violence in videogames. I may be wrong, but if it wasn't for his temper I expect that he would probably run for office and win largely on a "Save the Children" social conservative platform.

Re:Dammit, when will these nutballs learn? (1)

ultranova (717540) | more than 7 years ago | (#16612646)

when they hear about the "Hot-Coffee Mod" they think that Rockstar is selling a sex simulator to their children; when they hear about "Oblivion Nudity Mods" they think that Bioware is selling a game with rampant Boobies to their children;

I'd rather have my children playing sex sim than violent crime sim, and watching boobies rather than people getting killed with swords. I guess that makes me a pervert.

Jack is to video games (3, Insightful)

chroot_james (833654) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611066)

what sco is to linux.

Re:Jack is to video games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16611304)

what sco is to linux.

Free publicity.

Don't bother with the video (1)

The One and Only (691315) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611106)

The video might have been alright if it wasn't half some-guy-driving-around-Miami.

Considering the video's source.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16614848)

What did you expect from the retarded attention whores at Destructoid?

Thankfully that crummy excuse for a web site and "new gaming journalism" wasn't directly linked to.

Customization isn't a feature, it's a lawsuit! (5, Funny)

liak12345 (967676) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611154)

Dear MK Developers,
I recently purchased your violence simulator which you refer to as a game called Mortal Kombat: Armageddon. While observing the features of the game I tested out your Kreate a Kharacter option which lets you customize a character to your preferences given a wide variety of choices. Apparently I can design a character in a suit and name him Jack Thompson, which makes this game in clear violation of allowing games to design men in suits and name them after people. You are ordered to Cease and Desist production of this game immediately until my name and all variations of spellings are disallowed during designing characters in suits. This includes "Jerk Thompson" AND "Jackoff Thompson".

Lovingly,
Jack Thompson, the original man fighting lost causes

You want to have some fun... (3, Interesting)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611224)

Put up a website with Jack Thompson's "likeness" and list a whole bunch of generic "kill all the lawyers" joke. That should trigger a lawsuit in a hurry. After a lawyer was killed a number of years ago in California, the state politicians wanted to outlaw "kill all the lawyers" jokes and they were really offended that people were laughing at them for suggesting such a law.

Re:You want to have some fun... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16611388)

Yeah, that's true, plus this one guy invented a formula that lets cars go like a million miles on just a drop of oil, but they threatened to sue the guy if he ever released the secret formula! So, he didn't!

Re:You want to have some fun... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16614776)

Given how litigation happy he is, I'm surprised Jack Thompson hasn't tried to sue Shakespeare's [wikipedia.org] estate as a class action lawsuit on behalf of all lawyers.

Re:You want to have some fun... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16616318)

Uh huh... And I am sure you have a link for that...

"kill all the lawyers" joke (1)

lightspawn (155347) | more than 7 years ago | (#16617056)

It wasn't intended as a joke. From the wikipedia article linked to earlier:

"In his depiction of Cade's rebellion in Henry VI, Part 2 is the well-known line, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." Although this is usually interpreted to be antagonistic to lawyers, others have seen that the text of the play makes clear that precisely the opposite meaning is intended. Cade seeks to cement his revolution by destroying the justice system."

All games/sports can be bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16611406)

When you defeat someone in a game, you may hurt their feelings. They may feel like a loser. :( This could lead to low self esteem, feelings of worthlessness, and just plain old depression. :( :( :(

It can be true every time you play a game against someone you risk causing them to feel bad about themselves. This is very hurtful and can manifest as real pain. :(

Given this, how come Jack hasn't rallied against sports playing in general? How come he hasn't taken on Tennis, or Golf?

Another lawsuit (2, Funny)

KefkaTheMad (967573) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611456)

In a related story, Jack issued another lawsuit today against the Crayola corporation after my five-year-old cousin made a crayon drawing of the devil, titled "Jack Thompson"

Re:Another lawsuit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16614802)

my cousin also made a crayon drawing with the title TheSimpleIdiot ... JK is expected to sue for unauthorized use of his public image in 3...2...1...

Oh, Jack... (4, Insightful)

Tickenest (544722) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611554)

Thank God we have someone incompetent like Jack Thompson carrying the torch for this crusade instead of someone who actually knows what he's doing.

Re:Oh, Jack... (1)

Athanasius (306480) | more than 7 years ago | (#16612246)

I'm just waiting for the day it's revealed that Jack has actually been in the pay of various computer game producing companies all along. Paid to drum up extra publicity for them.

Seriously, not being into the genre, I'd never have heard of this new MK game if not for his latest shenanigans.

Oh shit, did I just give him an idea for his next law suit? Suing said games companies for lack of payment for the promotion he's been doing for them....

Re:Oh, Jack... (1)

KingEomer (795285) | more than 7 years ago | (#16614056)

Ah, but would someone who knows what he is doing actually want to carrying said torch?

Next on Thompson's list: (1)

dewie (685736) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611790)

I just used a 'Staedtler' felt tip pen and some 'Evolve' copier paper to create a likeness of Jack Thompson about to be crushed by a giant letter 'P' falling from a cinema sign. Watch out Staedtler and Evolve! You could be liable!

Re:Next on Thompson's list: (1)

mei_mei_mei (890405) | more than 7 years ago | (#16615092)

And I just printed out several copies of a photo of Jack Thompson, wet them and scrunched them up and used them to make a scale model of Jack Thompson carrying a "Jack Thompson is Gay LOLZ" banner.

Jack Thompson should watch out because if Jack Thompson finds out about this Jack Thompson is seriously screwed!

In other news... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16611818)

Jack Thompson threw his eyeToy across the room after he realized it was trying to "capture his soul."

Re:In other news... (2, Funny)

frosty_tsm (933163) | more than 7 years ago | (#16612996)

"I suddenly realized my soul was missing. I remember having a soul a long, long time ago, and only just now noticed it was gone. Then I saw my likeness on the TV! Therefore, it is the eyeToy's fault for stealing it and putting it in the TV!"

So when... (1)

locallyunscene (1000523) | more than 7 years ago | (#16611934)

Is there a limit to the number of nutball lawsuits you can file? Could the video game industry sue Jack Thompson for all these frivolous lawsuits that cost money to defend?

Re:So when... (1)

religious freak (1005821) | more than 7 years ago | (#16614272)

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe the answer is no. You can file as many crappy lawsuits as you'd like.

And if these gaming companies would like to recover their legal expenses, I believe they can sue him for returning these fees, but courts are typically pretty gun shy about awarding these types of verdicts unless there are very egregious circumstances (which, despite OUR opinions, this probably is not) because it could serve as a deterrent to others for bringing legitimate cases before courts -- for fear of losing and having to pay others' legal bills.

All I gotta says is.... (1)

j0nkatz (315168) | more than 7 years ago | (#16612192)

FINISH HIM!

Who should I cheer for? (1)

flaknugget (938238) | more than 7 years ago | (#16612368)

The MK series has sucked-out-loud after Mortal Kombat 2, which was like 12, 13 years ago? I have a hard time begrudging anyone for trying to prevent further sequels, regardless of their reasons. But... I do get a chuckle from thinking of Mr. Thompson is a savagely bloody fighting game. Where can I find a screen-shot of this custom-created Jack Thompson character?

TFA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16618612)

Where can I find a screen-shot of this custom-created Jack Thompson character?
T(2nd)FA [gamingtarget.com] has a screenshot. Scroll down. He's the last character they present.

Summary of the video (4, Informative)

nuzak (959558) | more than 7 years ago | (#16612568)

This summary is kind of haphazard, and may not be totally chronologically accurate, there may be things out of order -- I don't really feel like watching it again though.

First 5 minutes of it are spent watching some dork drive, then run into the courthouse, camera running. Thank god for fast-forward. Once inside the courthouse, he gets both Jack and Judge Friedman in the picture. Mostly Jack, whose body language is nothing short of nonchalantly defiant throughout.

Judge F, throughout, speaks very calmly, slowly, repeats himself quite a bit, indicating that this isn't the sort of game he would want his kids playing, but "that is not the test" and that the defendant would prevail on first amendment grounds.

Jack first speaks up, saying something like "am I going to be allowed to speak at this hearing?" but offers nothing, except to try to hold up a rather oversized (about 5 feet tall) sign, which we don't get to see. The judge doesn't actually say anything except "no" and Jack quickly takes the sign down, and it doesn't come back up (at the end of the video as Jack is leaving the courtroom, you can see that it has some relevant statute concerning disqualification of judges). Jack hands the bailiff a normal sized printout to hand to the judge, but no indication is given as to what it contains. One could easily assume it's the same thing as on his poster.

The judge then goes on to call Jack's behavior "inappropriate, unprofessional, and contemptible", and in his usual style, repeats himself quite a bit saying it. He mentions how Jack filed a lawsuit against the judge and attempted to use that as a reason for the judge to recuse himself, which the judge shoots down by saying that you can't simply sue a judge you don't like just to get him out of your case. While the judge is dressing Jack down for this, Jack is making a big show out of putting away his papers, like he's getting ready to leave.

Jack does get a little soliloquy in though: basically he tells the judge to his face that he "you misrepresented what was said in your chambers", and several times used the word "misrepresented" -- basically accusing Judge F. of lying. Ouch. The Judge is pretty much unfazed by this.

I saved the best for last: Judge Friedman won't hear the Motion to Show Cause, he's kicking it to another judge. The reason for this is that Judge Friedman has himself filed a complaint with the Florida Bar about Thompson's behavior.

So not only is Thompson still facing contempt charges, he's going to be up against the bar again. Last time, the FL Bar paid him off to go away, but now he's almost certainly going to face disciplinary action again, and this time, they might just decide to give him some serious payback.

Re:Summary of the video (2, Informative)

AlwaysHappy (951252) | more than 7 years ago | (#16614442)

You left out what in my opinion was the best part! Jack actually tries to hold his sign up two or three times, the judge finally gets him to keep it down, and then tells the bailiff if he puts the sign up again to take him into custody. I used to worry that this guy might actually convince people that video games were horrible things, but after seeing that video I have no worries anymore. He acts more like a 5 year old then a lawyer.

Re:Summary of the video (1)

nuzak (959558) | more than 7 years ago | (#16615378)

I didn't notice him make a move for the sign after he held it up the first time, and I couldn't understand most of what the judge said to him during the sign bit. I have almost as much ADD as Jack, I guess. I'm going to have to watch the video again. :)

Re:Summary of the video (1)

Man of E (531031) | more than 7 years ago | (#16616016)

It's a pity that once they were allowed to bring a camera into the courtroom, they didn't take the opportunity to a) arrive on time and capture the entire procedure, b) capture audio and video clearly and c) Not behave like an idiot. The portion during which this dork's cell phone went off was perhaps the most relevant during the entire procedure, but even if it had been captured, we would probably not know what was said because of the garbled audio. If the author had borrowed a decent camera to shoot the video with, or brought along a separate microphone, maybe it would have been possible to understand the proceedings. As it is, watching that video is a waste of time.

Jack is a technology expert! (3, Funny)

bigbigbison (104532) | more than 7 years ago | (#16612950)

Jack is such an expert on technology he threatened to sue people who emailed him responses to his comments when gamepolitics was on livejournal. ...then someone pointed out that in his livejournal account the option to get emailed every time someone responded to him was turned on and all those emails were automated because of his settings...

He never lets facts get in the way of a lawsuit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16613148)

...As we found out with his comments about The Sims containing "full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair".

And once again we have proof... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16613676)

...that Jack Thompson spends his days a) filing lawsuits that make him look more and more batshit crazy, 2) showing us that he his grip on reality is fading quickly, and III) typing "jack thompson video game" into Google and hitting F5 every thirty seconds.

Just watched the vid (1)

religious freak (1005821) | more than 7 years ago | (#16614018)

You know, as well as having times when I know we can do better, there are times when I'm just ecstatic to be living in a democracy, and of being a US citizen.

This is a time I love living in a democracy. We have an ENTIRE SYSTEM setup to relegate these nut balls to the trash heap. Sure... we'll listen to your crappy argument, your faulty logic, and your desire to control others. Sure you can file your petitions, make your legal movements and show your "evidence".

But at the end of the day, Mr. Jack Thompson... you are a tard -- pure and simple.

Add the wonderful concept of democracy to the nearly instantaneous transmission of data via the Internet, and guys like this get nowhere... they illustrate their lack of logic, respect, and composure in plain view for all to see. This guy wants to be McCarthy, but he can't even manage a Jerry Faldwell.

I love the US (and democracy in general), I'm going to go bake some apple pie!

hmm (1)

DaveJay (133437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16615012)

What I want to know is: when are people going to start suing the makers of art supplies? I mean, I could go out right now -- RIGHT NOW -- get some cray-pas, and draw actual pictures of Jack Thompson. I could even sign his name, and give 'em out to friends!

It's so hard (1)

Hubbell (850646) | more than 7 years ago | (#16615890)

to support free speech when you have fucking wackjobs like Jack Thompson and the psychos in the Westboro Baptist Church [wikipedia.org] .

Wackjobs (1)

Mark_MF-WN (678030) | more than 7 years ago | (#16620262)

If it makes you feel any better, countries WITHOUT freespeech have much more serious problems with wackjobs -- because the wackjobs tend to be the ones controlling the speech, and no one has the right to publically contradict those wackjobs that are down with the feds.

Way back when... (1)

BitwizeGHC (145393) | more than 7 years ago | (#16615896)

I still remember the days when Mortal Kombat was all about likenesses of real people.

Man, Elizabeth Malecki was hot...

"Newly Recently"? (1)

Kuukai (865890) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635072)

"It has today come to my attention that the newly recently Mortal Kombat..." (Emphasis mine)

Christ, Jack, if you want to write a respectable cease and desist letter and not come off as an ignorant douche, at least proofread the dang thing...
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