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Testosterone Tumbling in American Males

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the zomg-where-are-my-lead-pants dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Yahoo is running a story about a study that concludes that testosterone levels are falling across all age groups among American men. It says 'The testosterone-fueled American male may be losing his punch'" I leave it to you all to draw your conclusions about this, but I still wonder what my hours of laptop-fu does to me.

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597 comments

because... (5, Funny)

dexomn (147950) | more than 7 years ago | (#16632974)

It's all being sold in shops in WoW.

So it's a good thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16632976)

...that I'm already a lesbian.

Logical conclusion (0)

suso (153703) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633014)

1. Testosterone drops in males.
2. More females born as a result.
3. Evolution in females to ensure survival.
4. Single gender species results.

I've thought about this since I first saw that STTNG episode with the single gender species.

In some ways I think that homosexuality may be some evolutionary precursor to this.

Interestingly enough, I just had a baby girl last month. I've also noticed that almost all of my co-workers have daughters. This is of course anecdotal evidence, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.

Re:Logical conclusion (1)

JWW (79176) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633052)

Testosterone really has nothing to do with whether a child is a girl or a boy, it has more to do with having the drive to even procreate at all.

Re:Logical conclusion (1)

suso (153703) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633138)

You're probably right. I still have this theory that we may be heading for a single gender species. I'm misappropriately applying this finding to back it up. Probably not a good thing since I'm no biologist.

Re:Logical conclusion (1)

AusIV (950840) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633430)

I've not seen many biologists suggest that we're moving towards a single gender species. I've heard several suggestions that the Y chromosome will eventually fade out of existence, but that another chromosome would likely replace it as the sex determining chromosome. The resulting species would be more feminine, but there would still be differentiation.

Re:Logical conclusion (3, Funny)

Quantam (870027) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633480)

Admit it: you just want an excuse to watch lesbian porn

Re:Logical conclusion (1)

Ant P. (974313) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633072)

But what happens if #3 doesn't happen?

Re:Logical conclusion (3, Funny)

laffer1 (701823) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633200)

In 100,000 years we die out and get replaced by cats.

Re:Logical conclusion (1)

mkavanagh2 (776662) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633276)

listen to this man

Re:Logical conclusion (5, Funny)

bcat24 (914105) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633356)

But cats already rule the world; we just don't want to admit it. Behind every evil genius is an even more evil cat.

Re:Logical conclusion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633116)

Gender is determined by whether you have a Y chromosome or not, not by the levels of hormones in your parents. Males have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome, while females have two X's, and each parent gives one sex chromosome to their child, so the child is XX (female) with probability 1/2 and XY (male) with probability 1/2.

Re:Logical conclusion (2, Informative)

vadim_t (324782) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633198)

What does testosterone have to do with the gender of the child? The gender is a result of chromosome combination. The woman contributes XX, and the man XY. Depending on whether your "X" or "Y" chromosome gets used, the resulting child will be male or female.

Interestingly, spermatozoids carrying the "Y" swim faster, and can be told apart from the "Y" ones that way.

Re:Logical conclusion (2, Informative)

Alexandra Erenhart (880036) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633384)

Yes, "Y" spermatozoids are faster, but "X" ones live longer. So, if by the time they're inside and no egg is there to be fertilized, chances are that "Y" ones will die, and "X" will win if an egg is released afterwards.

Re:Logical conclusion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633216)

Testosterone has nothing to do with homosexuality either. Just look at all the big hairy muscle bound bears.

Re:Logical conclusion (2, Informative)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633390)

For the record, there's no data that suggests a correlation between testosterone levels and homosexuality. In fact, physicans once tried to "treat" homosexuality with testosterone injections, and the subjects just became more homosexually active.

Re:Logical conclusion (2, Informative)

Alexandra Erenhart (880036) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633422)

What I've heard, testosterone is related to sexual drive. I know some mid-age women that have been treated with testosterone to cure their lack of interest in sex, and it works. Like the parent said before me, it has nothing to do with homosexuality. At all.

Re:Logical conclusion (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633398)

Oddly enough, this is predicted by the Quran (Koran, Q'ran, however you choose to spell it).

YOU"RE ALL A BUNCH OF SLACK JAWED FAGGOTS (0, Flamebait)

CmdrTaco (troll) (578383) | more than 7 years ago | (#16632980)

Get out a split a cord of wood instead of splitting each other's assholes.

Too Many Wussified Liberal Males (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16632982)

Wah wah wah, boo hoo, illegal war, peace with terrorists, legalize gay marriage, etc, etc...

Mod down: Generalistic Political Shill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633192)

Seriously. Go to Lucianne.com or something and do your trolling elsewheres...

Re:Too Many Wussified Liberal Males (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633234)

But don't worry, your President has enough spare to act as a donor for all who need it.

Re:Too Many Wussified Liberal Males (2)

Austrosearch (857263) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633474)

Interesting. Actually I figured the decrease of testosterone explained alot regarding why Americans are afraid to pick their balls up from off the floor and fight for their liberty.

Any link to... (1)

merreborn (853723) | more than 7 years ago | (#16632984)

rising obesity?

Re:Any link to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633016)

RTFA:

The reasons for this trend are unclear, said researchers at the New England Research Institutes in Waterdown, Mass. They noted that neither aging nor certain other health factors, such as smoking or obesity, can fully explain the decline.

Re:Any link to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633030)

Sure. Girls are getting fatter and guys don't want them and are losing their drive.

Diabetes (2, Informative)

Stickerboy (61554) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633152)

Obesity is linked to increased risk of diabetes, diabetes is associated with lower testosterone levels. The article has it wrong - low testosterone does not cause diabetes, it's the other way around. Hypogonadism is a well-known effect of diabetes.

There's your link [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Diabetes (1)

cnettel (836611) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633186)

On the other hand (which I guess was the grandparent's original intent), wonn't human casthrates, just like many other mammals, frequently develop obesity, or at least a significant shift in the distribution of fat, compared to healthy/normal males?

Re:Diabetes (1)

Stickerboy (61554) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633332)

According to wikipedia [wikipedia.org] castrated young boys tend to keep their slight build. I don't really know much about castration, since you don't see it very often anymore.

Re:Diabetes (1)

JonnyCalcutta (524825) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633418)

But they also statistically live longer, so I would presume that even if it did lead to obesity it doesn't also lead to increased diabetes or other obesity related diseases. Sorry can't really find any links - http://www.you.com.au/news/371.htm [you.com.au] is the best I can get (its down the bottom of the text).

Re:Any link to... (2, Insightful)

malsdavis (542216) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633350)

The article suggests a link is likely (although they don't quote an exact study into such). I think though, the drop in testosterone is among the least of fat people's worries.

I don't understand why people go on and on so much about diseases like Aids in Africa when there is a disease killing millions here in America also, the only difference being it is caused by lack of self-control rather than a virus. Yet so many people treat obesity like it's no big deal unlike other diseases. I can understand Walmart not giving a crap about obesity (after all, the disease makes the company billions) but surely everyone else must be concerned that their obese friend/colleague/themselves/relative is going to die decades before they're meant to. Would people ignore their friend/colleague/themselves/relative's disease so much if it was Aids?

Maybe it's just a sign of evolution (1)

embeejay (446541) | more than 7 years ago | (#16632988)

After all, we don't need to hunt wild animals to survive anymore.

Re:Maybe it's just a sign of evolution (1)

William_Lee (834197) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633044)

After all, we don't need to hunt wild animals to survive anymore.

Spoken like a true /. milquetoast.

Re:Maybe it's just a sign of evolution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633292)

uhhh... diets high in animal protiens are already linked to lower testosterone and higher estrogen levels. I would say, if anything, meatier American diets are likely the culprit.

Re:Maybe it's just a sign of evolution (0, Flamebait)

benzapp (464105) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633366)

Oh yeah, all those vegan pussies are just so ripped and sexually potent... Not to mention them chinese who eat nothing but rice and a few pinches of fish.

George Carlin: scientist (4, Funny)

rbochan (827946) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633312)

It's just further on into the pussification of America [google.com] .

Weenies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633002)

You americans are all a bunch of girly men! Little panzy girls! Ah!

I for one.... (5, Funny)

tloh (451585) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633004)

...welcome our new metro-sexual overlords?

Re:I for one.... (2, Interesting)

tloh (451585) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633244)

On a less lame note, does this mean young geeks are dealing with less of the aggressive bully types? And on a slightly more serious note still, I wonder if any study has been done on the role of male sex hormones in the sociobology of humans. It is a generally acknowledge (though AFAIK not yet understood) fact that women who live in the same dwelling eventually develop synchronized menstrual periods. But with regard to males, I can only think of examples in the animal kingdom where territorial males would deposit their own scent to "mark their territory"...... I'm sure someone else can come up with a better joke on that note than I could.

Re:I for one.... (2, Interesting)

WallaceAndGromit (910755) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633400)

Or... could it be related to the increasing use of growth hormones in our food supply (for example female growth hormones [wikipedia.org]
used to increase milk production in cattle)?

Re:I for one.... (2, Interesting)

Perp Atuitie (919967) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633486)

Not a study, but some interesting stories about testosterone and the lack of it as told by those who lived through some heavy changes. A This American Life radio broadcast you can listen to here. [thislife.org]

Natural selection? (1)

mapkinase (958129) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633022)

I wonder how representative it is across recent immigrands and Mayflower Americans...

Re:Natural selection? (2, Insightful)

pilgrim23 (716938) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633110)

Let's see: the article says "Americans" One would presume this would be in comparisson to other countries?. Well, America is more a continent then a country. Comparing the USA to say Germany would give you somewhat weird results. Also, is there a breakdown by: ethnicity, other genetic factors, enviornmental or climate conditions, or Hat size? I could go on. "America" is a all inclusive non-homogenious term. The ONLY malady we all share in common is the IRS.

Re:Natural selection? (1)

gerbalblaste (882682) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633386)

howsabout a rtfa. Its not compared to other countries but historical data about testosterone levels.

Re:Natural selection? (1)

Original Replica (908688) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633388)

I think it was a comparisson to America males of today with American males of the past. I wonder if the Age of BabyBoomers has any effect on this?

Re:Natural selection? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633310)

Supposedly, NYC males have a higher level of testosterone than the general population.

I'm not making this up. But I can't recall where I read this, which also means squat if somone wants to verify it or look at how the study was conducted. (The statement (not the study) was made, I think, in either a Scientific American article where they make those little comments or highlights, or it was in Men's Health Journal or similar.)

As to why they do, it was not mentioned (again, I haven't seen or read the study). With NYC, it could be the immigrant population, or it could be only that city was looked at; maybe population density (competing for females, more interactions with other males causes feedback that boosts production).

stress! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633024)

Testosterone levels drop in stressful situations, and in chronically stressed individuals. I'd put my money on the increasing level of stress encountered in a social system that is increasingly becoming a means for the powerful to remain on top.

Re:stress! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633066)

Dude, that comment makes no sense. The conclusion at the end of your sentence doesn't match the beginning of the sentence. You should fill in the blanks and repost.

lack of female companion will do it too (1)

r00t (33219) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633306)

Testosterone levels rise if you get a girlfriend or wife, and drop if you lose one.

Women no longer need to live with men. We invented no-fault divorce, child support, heavy equipment, locks and police, and so many other things to eliminate the need for men. Men have become useless, so women kick us smelly slobs out of the house. We are obsolete.

I suppose that could be a particular type of stress.

At this point (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633026)

The testosterone-fueled American male may be losing his punch.

At this point, I think it's really more of a "forceful slap" than anything.

Re:At this point (1)

Night Goat (18437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633146)

Now that is funny. I wish I had mod points.

closer to home.... (1)

tloh (451585) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633338)

....suddenly, the "OMG! PONIES!" April Fools gag on slashdot takes on a whole different meaning...

Obvious Reson (2, Interesting)

turgid (580780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633036)

What whith the ubiquity of pr0n, avaliable readily for free and without embarrassment on the Intarweb Tubes, the testosterone no longer has a chance to build up in the male body.

Can I have a PhD please?

Co3k (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633038)

disgust, o\r been

Just adapting to the environment (1)

Znort (634569) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633046)

With WOW who needs testosterone ?

Znort

lack of excercise and obesity (3, Interesting)

iggymanz (596061) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633054)

testosterone drops in a body that doesn't excercise (true for male and for the much smaller amount the female has), it drops in an obese body and moreover body fat produces a female-hormone like steroid

Re:lack of excercise and obesity AND PLASTICS (2, Informative)

trakwebster (132050) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633134)

Common plastics used to package convenience foods have estrogenic side-effects. If you buy cabbages and beets and bread in paper bags, and stuff in cans, that's great. But buy and store cabbages and beets in plastic bags, plastic refrigerator cartons and it's like getting a little dose of estrogen. Buy microwave dinners in plastic, sitting in plastic-lined little plates, and it's like getting a little dose of estrogen. Buy bread in plastic, soda in plastic, milk in plastic-lined cartons, meat wrapped in plastic, orange juice in plastic, eggs in plastic cartons, and frozen fruits in plastic bags -- Get your Estrogen here, boys!

Re:lack of excercise and obesity AND PLASTICS (2, Funny)

LearnToSpell (694184) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633264)

My steaks are wrapped in plastic, but I eat them raw, so it's ok right?

Re:lack of excercise and obesity AND PLASTICS (1)

iggymanz (596061) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633344)

if you stop licking the blood and body fluid off the wrappers you'll alright

Re:lack of excercise and obesity AND PLASTICS (2, Informative)

iggymanz (596061) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633406)

yup, google estrogen and "nonyphenol" or "bisphenol A" (there's others too) heating in microwave ovens likely increases the dosages, never thought of that until now. crap.

Re:lack of excercise and obesity AND PLASTICS (2, Informative)

Cherita Chen (936355) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633472)

"...and it's like getting a little dose of estrogen."

Here's the obligatory link [scienceagogo.com] to more info on the estrogen-plastic issue.

In light of this revelation, it is important to note that according to research, the amount of estrogen one would ingest from plastic doesn't compare to the rate of testosterone aromatization in a young healthy male (let alone a steroid laden jock). The bottom line is that a body needs both estrogen and testosterone (though amounts do differ between M&F).

Re:lack of excercise and obesity AND PLASTICS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633516)

Thank you for mentioning plastic. I have heard also in general, many man-made chemicals appear in the body as estrogens, including pesticides. One link that has been made in other studies, that I haven't seen posted yet as I'm scrolling down reading comments, is studies of polution and the sexual effects on wild-life animals. There also in some populations are dramatic declines. They could be our dying [dead?] canary in the mine warning of imminent danger for us. Maybe I can find a link via quick google search:

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/Basics/chapters.htm [ourstolenfuture.org]
http://www.holology.com/hormone.html [holology.com]
http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/pae/environmentalscienc e/casestudies/case7.mhtml [mhhe.com]
http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Plasticizers/Out- Of-Diet-PG5nov03.htm [mindfully.org]

Anyways, that's just a sampling. I think it's already a pretty well known issue. Not saying there's not other possible contributing factors. But this is being studied and there's quite a few references attached to some of those articles. Have fun. Who needs to reproduce anyways? We have genetics. We can clone! Muwahahahaha.... :-)

Re:lack of excercise and obesity (1)

lixee (863589) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633346)

I recently discovered a supplement that goes by the name of ZMA. It is a non-hormonal (plain magnesium and vitamin B6) and gives an substantial testosterone boost. I cannot recommend it enough. Side effects include wild vivid dreams along with a propensity to wet yourself at night.

In case you wanna know more http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459250 [t-nation.com]

Re:lack of excercise and obesity (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633476)

<Borat>You mean i get liquid explosion?</Borat>

Re:lack of excercise and obesity (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633396)

Nice try, but no. If you read the article, you'd see:

"This analysis deals with men who were born between 1915 and 1945,"

The "obesity epidemic" doesn't exactly apply to men in that age range.

Re:lack of excercise and obesity (1)

iggymanz (596061) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633456)

oh?, tests were done in late 80's, late 90's and then recently, for 40 year olds and up obesity has been a growing problem (and diabetes too) just as with other age groups, and decreasing physical activity.

Re:lack of excercise and obesity (1)

tloh (451585) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633446)

Note to self: going to gym regularly to try picking up girls may have additional health benefits.

The only good news here... (2, Funny)

Lank (19922) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633062)

Is that I guess I'm not alone! Now I can point to this study and tell my girl, "See? It's happening to all the guys my age -- you're not cool unless you have a reduced libido!"

Re:The only good news here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633316)

Wait you actually have a girlfriend?

That's not fair I'm having the opposite problem!!!

Testicular cancer (5, Informative)

Skiron (735617) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633068)

Having being diagnosed, and having surgery and chemotherapy for this (like Lance Armstrong et al), there is a worrying trend. There is no known cause of this cancer scientifically proved, but after getting this cancer, and speaking 'hear say' to consultants, doctors. etc. one theory is that estrogen (oestrogen), the female hormone, is being dumped into the environment from products (baby products, nappies etc.). This chemical doesn't break down in nature - so drinking water, cows milk, fish, meat... all contain this bumped chemical up that would not otherwise be there. Too see how bad it is, there are even scientific reports of fish changing sex in estrogen rich rivers - do a google on this. This is not a subject to laugh at.

Re:Testicular cancer (2, Funny)

The_Abortionist (930834) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633282)

I believe in that theory as well.

It's clear that young women today have bigger tits than the previous generations. And now we know that the level testosterone is dropping to almost nothing in men.

I am not gonna say that it's a left-wing conspiracy, but I do think that this could also explain the increase of leftist mentality that has been slowly happening over the last decades (ie just not as a reaction to Bush).

Just like Romans used lead in their aqueducts, we seem to be poisonning ourselves. Hopefully the results will be different for us.

two thoughts (1)

jonpublic (676412) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633082)

the article states that lower levels of testosterone are linked to diabetes, so could higher levels of diabetes in the population be a factor in the lower testosterone?

what about the higher levels of artificial hormones in the environment? could all the estrogen we are dumping make us less manly?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/03/03 01_040301_genderbender.html [nationalgeographic.com]

Don't worry (4, Insightful)

Kohath (38547) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633088)

Health-related news is almost always wrong. It'll get contradicted in another study next year.

Remember when everyone got that bird flu? (I was coughing up feathers for weeks.)

Re:Don't worry (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633462)

What if the contradicting study is the wrong one?

Endocrine Disruptors in the Environment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633094)

The drop is probably caused by endocrine disruptors in the environment. That's also probably the reason I'm transgendered.

Endocrine Disruptors [wikipedia.org]

Enjoy losing your reproductive fitness, humanity. But hey, keep blaming it on weirdos and declining moral values; I'm sure that will fix the problem.

It's in the water (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633132)

From what TV has told me, this is linked to water-purification:
stuff like the (female) oestrogen hormone and even prozac are hard to filter out of the water, so that stuff gradually builds up.

The oestrogen affects males (that's right, girlfriends *giggles*) and prozac kills off freshwater-mussels -- there's a clam joke in here somewhere, I'm sure.

Re:It's in the water (1)

Ninjaesque One (902204) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633212)

Now, we shall have no bivalvial recourse when we finally all lose our libidos! The oysters will all be dead! Hmm. Also, happiness of clams not related to clam survival.

Cure ... (3, Informative)

foobsr (693224) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633160)

As a web-page of NYUMC [nyu.edu] suggests, Tai Chi may be of help.

Quote: Enhanced Endocrine and Immune System
One study found that tai chi was associated with increased blood levels of a number of hormones, including thyroid hormone, testosterone, and estradiol. Another study found that tai chi was associated with an increased number of T cells (cells involved in the immune response).


CC.

Science or Society (1)

Desert_Scarecrow (998677) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633168)

True, as an earlier poster pointed out, obesity and lack of exercise drop testosterone levels. What I would like to see is a study focusing on behavioral habits to see if there is any link there. As a member of our military reserve on my second deployment, it really irritates me how touchy-feely the civilian world is. One example: I got sent to "sensitivity training" at an old workplace because during a supposedly anonymous survey (hah), I answered that I did not feel it was important to use the words please and thank you when dealing with my coworkers. You know, if I am going to give you money to work for me, I am going to assume that means that you'll work for me, and that I won't have to ask you nicely every time. But that's beside the point. I really think that our society is taking away the things that make men men -- we're being turned into metrosexuals :( This isn't a healthy thing. DS

Re:Science or Society (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633496)

" I got sent to "sensitivity training" at an old workplace because...I answered that I did not feel it was important to use the words please and thank you when dealing with my coworkers. if I am going to give you money to work for me, I am going to assume that means that you'll work for me, and that I won't have to ask you nicely..."

Wow, you sound like quite an asshole. Just the sort of arrogant dick that makes me hate my job and far less likely to be productive at work. If this a-hole effect is directly attributable to testosterone levels, then perhaps these declining numbers aren't so bad after all..

Guys like you should stick to stuff like killing people for a living instead of polluting the civilized working world with your caveman sensibilities.

pesticides and fertility (0)

robbo (4388) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633202)

I'm not an expert but fertility has been declining precipitously in N. American males and it's more prevalent in rural areas. The working hypothesis is that pesticides play a role (rural inhabitants have much higher exposure), as some have the effect of mimicing estrogen. Declining testosterone is probably part of the same effect.

USA: land of fags (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633210)

Science proves it!

Seemed pretty obvious to me (1)

cryocide (947909) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633218)

Have you seen what some guys are wearing these days? It's like they're trying to compete with girls for the "most traditionally feminine" award or something.

the question is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633226)

is this a bad thing?

Personally interesting (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633232)

I was diagnosed with low testosterone six months ago, but don't know what caused it. I exercise regularly, and wonder if the long-distance cycling I do is tough on the 'equipment'. I also had radiation treatment for lymphoma in that area five years ago. That seems more likely, although the doctors took pains to make sure everything was shielded properly. I'm 40 years old. The important thing to know is that low testosterone can cause mood disorders, lack of focus, depression, and other symptoms. It's worth seeking treatment if your levels are abnormally low.

Heh (1)

elined (623866) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633238)

I guess America is becoming progressively less honky...

Important implications for the military (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633240)

Soldiers will soon demand all their weaponry be color co-ordinated with their uniforms and the massively expensive development of an assault handbag. Enemies will initially be engaged with cutting criticism of their weigh/dress sense or design of thier formations and many soldiers will be just too emotionally distraught to engage the enemy unless they can take them dancing afterwards.

Re:Important implications for the military (1)

iggymanz (596061) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633314)

"it's NOT a handbag, you insensitive brute, it's my assault MANPURSE! Booohoooohoooooo *sob* *sob*"

I knew there'd be hell to pay... (1)

rifftide (679288) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633254)

if this country didn't start taking World Cup soccer more seriously.

Geeks rule! Jocks Sux! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633272)



The way it was meant to be

Blame MTV! (3, Funny)

Mike Savior (802573) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633308)

It's all that crappy emo music that's hitting it big. The guys are becoming even more fragile than us nerds! (And scoring twice the women, still)

Simple evolution (3, Interesting)

iamacat (583406) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633330)

If you fight you are put in jail, if you ask someone out at work you are fired and sued, if you are perceived to be an insensitive clod who wants to sit in a bar rather than wash dishes, you are unlikely to get married or have an offspring - thanks also to birth control/abortion. The evolution is selecting against "manly men". Maybe it's time for the society to wake up and move away from extremes.

Re:Simple evolution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633442)

> evolution is selecting against "manly men".

And why are you complaining my feline friend? Don't you like pussy?

Pussification of the Western Male (4, Insightful)

Yonder Way (603108) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633334)

Kim du Toit explained this phenomenon some time ago in this essay [theothersideofkim.com] . I think he hit it right on the head.

But not in the White House! (1)

phliar (87116) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633376)

Thank God for this adolescent raging hard-on White House, who have pledged the preserve the sanctity of our precious bodily fluids! Now with Martial Law!

Estrogen in the water? (1)

DebateG (1001165) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633378)

Elevated estrogen and estrogen mimicking substances have made it into our rivers and streams, causing signs of hermaphroditism in fish [msn.com] . Scientists have discovered a wide range of other drugs [sciencenews.org] in our drinking water, from pain killers to birth control pills to antidepressants. High levels of rocket fuel toxins [livescience.com] have been found in mothers' milk. My city still uses lead piping to transfer most of its water, and they alkalinize the water to reduce lead levels to "acceptable" levels, even though scientists have pretty much shown that the only acceptable lead level is no lead at all [medscape.com] .

It's not entirely clear what, if any, effects these substances have on developing children. Personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry and remove these contaminants from my water.

Simple solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633438)

We need to start adding testosterone to the water supply to counteract this bloody oestrogen. Next thing we'll see not only more retarded testosterone-hyped men, but also more chicks with dicks. It's a win-win situation if you're into that kind of stuff.

MOD PARENT UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16633468)

Because it's true!

Ahhh (1)

MemoryDragon (544441) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633494)

Genetically enhanced food at its best...

Drugging boys to death? (1)

hsmith (818216) | more than 7 years ago | (#16633502)

How about the fact the goverment (schools) drugs young boys? (ADD treatments, ect). I am sure this has NOTHING to do with it at all.

Add in hormones in foods, obesity, no exercise. call me fucking shocked that testosterone is on the slide.
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