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How To Make Your Friends Call You More

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the not-funny-mcgee dept.

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B0bReader writes, "Simply sign up to something called jajah (a VOIP service that connects real telephones) using your friend's number (mobiles included), then log in and dial your own number. Your friend's phone will ring and after they hear a brief 'Jajah is connecting your call' they will be calling you and incur all charges. As an added bonus you will quite probably receive your friend's latest voice-mail message as your own (at least on Irish networks), which you may or may not wish to hear. There is even a Jajah Firefox extension — which at the time of writing is the Firefox featured add-on — so you can do it right from your browser. This is about the best example of a bad idea, with terrible implementation, that I have seen all day. And with the wonderful publicity the Firefox page offers it should reach a wide audience in no time."

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Drinkdrink (5, Funny)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635926)

The makers of Jajah are hoping that it is as popular as Drinkdrink. Drinkdrink worked where you simply signed up using your friend's credit card number, then logged in and ordered booze. Your friend would receive the bill and then they would hear a brief 'Your friend is drinking your alcohol.' They would usually be calling you and rushing to find you. As an added bonus you could quite probably receive a specialized form of your friend's affection (at least in Irish cities), which you may or may not wish to experience.

Irish police are still investigating any correlation between the popularity of Drinkdrink and a sudden spike in Irish homicides where in most cases the victim new their assailant prior to the fatal encounter. Similar incidents are on the rise--possibly due to Jajah.

Seriously, if I tried this on one of my friends, not even a surgeon would be able to locate my cell phone.

Re:Drinkdrink (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16635936)

best first post yet

Re:Drinkdrink (0, Offtopic)

Saint Stephen (19450) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636116)

I guess I'll get a +5 Funny for this:

Jajah Binks.

Re:Drinkdrink (1)

Morphine007 (207082) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636596)

+5, Funny ... -1, Offtopic... it's all the same right? lol

Re:Drinkdrink (1)

dotdevin (936747) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636294)

..."Mulrooney walked into the bar and ordered up a round. He left his drink to telephone, and Clancy drank it down. Mulrooney said "Who drunk me drink? I'll lay him in his tomb!" Before you could pat the top of your hat, Clancy lowered the boom!"... From Clancy Lowered The Boom, Author unknown at least to me.

Re:Drinkdrink (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636544)

What a waste in technology and resources. My friends call me on my cell phone. My enemies call me on my home phone which I don't answer since I used the land line for DSL only. A nice and simple solution. Although trying to get my friends and enemies to buy me booze is more difficult.

sd asdhja dfjakshd (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16635928)

frist psot!!!

Hey, this is Slashdot (5, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635946)

Instead of "How To Make Your Friends Call You More", we need "How To Make Friends".

Is that a Firefox plugin? (4, Funny)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636050)

I've searched Google already.

Re:Hey, this is Slashdot (3, Funny)

c_forq (924234) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636392)

When I first read this I thought it was a joke, but maybe this is what you are looking for:
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Friends [wikihow.com]

Re:Hey, this is Slashdot (2, Insightful)

RonnyJ (651856) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636398)

I love how this is currently modded overall as 'Insightful', rather than 'Funny'.

Re:Hey, this is Slashdot (2, Insightful)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636424)

Trust me, it was meant to be "Funny", but "EmbeddedJanitor"'s response was much funnier.

Re:Hey, this is Slashdot (1)

Digitus1337 (671442) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636490)

I find your ideas interesting, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Re:Hey, this is Slashdot (3, Funny)

Iron Condor (964856) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636594)

What are those "friends" you speak of?

Stupidity must be contagious ... (0)

DavidRawling (864446) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635950)

Oh. My. God.

How retarded is this idea? Now all the telemarketers can call you on your dime (or is it a quarter nowadays - being from the Antipodes I have no idea what an American phone call costs).

How does someone come up with such idiocy? Did they lock the people in a room after removing and pickling their brains, and tell them not to come out until they could prove that people are dumber than slugs?

Re:Stupidity must be contagious ... (3, Funny)

majoritywhip (829722) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636200)

I can't remember who said it: If you took the 10 smartest people in the world, put them in a room and asked them to invent the dumbest thing in the world, they would never invent anything as dumb as astrology" (or something like that). But they might come up with something this dumb

Re:Stupidity must be contagious ... (5, Informative)

stunt_penguin (906223) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636304)

RTFA and try and grasp the concept better than the idiot who posted this article; the only service that gets charged here is your own JaJa account - the site phones your landline and your friend's landline using VoIP credit in YOUR account (a lot like skypeout), and your landlines get connected together.

This is a good service, and not worthy of an amateurish slashdot post like this.

Re:Stupidity must be contagious ... (4, Insightful)

nuzak (959558) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636372)

Do you know what slashdot is? It's a feed of nouns. Stories are posted, and when one looks like it could be about something interesting, you plug the nouns into google, and get something much more like the truth. The adjectives and verbs are extra, and occasionally related.

It's doesn't quite have quite the volume of a noun-feed like digg, though it does have a few more top-level categories.

Re:Stupidity must be contagious ... (5, Interesting)

LordNightwalker (256873) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636682)

Mod parent up; the moron who submitted the article totally failed to grasp the so-called "article" he links to. Submitter should have done his homework before he posted this crap on slashdot; this ain't even a subtle mistake anymore, and I'd hardly call the concept difficult to understand. It might help if he actually read the stuff he links to instead of trying to be the first to post it...

Re:Stupidity must be contagious ... (1)

rayde (738949) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636798)

i'm glad somebody else at least LOOKED at the jajah website (unlike the submitter, apparently). i don't see what the big negative fuss is about..

correct headline? (0)

macadamia_harold (947445) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635952)

Your friend's phone will ring and after they hear a brief 'Jajah is connecting your call' they will be calling you and incur all charges.

I'm thinking that's a good way to get your friends to call you less, not more.

Woosh! (5, Funny)

bcat24 (914105) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636028)

Joke: -===>
You:  O
      >-<
       |
      / \

Re:Woosh! (1)

Null Perception (914562) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636542)

Parent's funny picture -===> You o >- | / \

I can prevent this happening to me (3, Funny)

Nasajin (967925) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635954)

I'll just get rid of all my friends.

Re:I can prevent this happening to me (2, Funny)

mangledspine (172332) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635976)

You must be new here.

Re:I can prevent this happening to me (1)

jtobin (988724) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636016)

You're on /. so that shouldn't be a problem.

*ducks*

Re:I can prevent this happening to me (1)

danpsmith (922127) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636684)

I thought this might happen in advance, so I just didn't make any.

Hyper-reaction! (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16635958)

Obviously the Irish voicemail system you refer too is poorly designed in these days of confrence calls...

This service however does not cause your friends phone to call you, thats rediculous. The service calls you localy, and calls them localy, and then links your calls with VOIP, saving any long distance calls. Thats about it.

I would use it for International Calling (2, Informative)

stroustrup (712004) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635978)

The rates they are offering are much lower than any other service I know of. The only concern I have is privacy. They say privacy is guarenteed, but how I can know for sure?

Re:I would use it for International Calling (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636018)

Because it's guaranteed so it must be 100% accurate.

Re:I would use it for International Calling (1)

anthony_dipierro (543308) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636458)

The only concern I have is privacy. They say privacy is guarenteed, but how I can know for sure?

It's going through the telephone system. Of course you don't have privacy. At least not if you're living in Bush Country (the United States). This has nothing to do with the fact that it's VOIP.

Re:I would use it for International Calling (1)

Iron Condor (964856) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636648)

The rates they are offering are much lower than any other service I know of.

google: skype

Re:I would use it for International Calling (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636774)

Who would dare back down on their guarantee? You can trust it.

?file not found (1)

Peganthyrus (713645) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635980)

Except the featured Firefox addon of the moment is "Sage", using the search box on the Firefox addons page for "jahjah" gets nothing, and jahjah.com doesn't seem to exist.

Although Googling for "jahjah voip" does return hits, so whatever.

Re:?file not found (1)

Peganthyrus (713645) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636008)

Never mind, their site works now - and the Firefox featured addon is Clipmarks. Said feature seems to be randomly selected every minute or two.

Re:?file not found (1)

noamsml (868075) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636248)

Actually, it is randomized each time it serves the page.

Re:?file not found (1)

kras (807696) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636752)

try jajah, not jahjah. and it is a very useable tool, original poster should read this interview [npost.com] with one of the co-founders of jajah to get a more accurate view on the topic.

Wow, what a ridiculously bad idea. (0)

QuantumFTL (197300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16635986)

I consult with VPS VOIP solutions for LyliX.net [lylix.net] , and let me tell you, if one of our customers wanted to set up something like this, I think we'd refer them to someone else :)

This idea is bad on so many levels - not only are you introducing a third party unnecessarily, but it's just a rehash of collect calling, but even more annoying! If you want your friends to call you, how about texting them? A lot less akward and more convenient.

Re:Wow, what a ridiculously bad idea. (2, Funny)

Khakionion (544166) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636088)

"How about texting them?"
Shit yeah, I be textin' my ass off. Bitches love textin'. Matter of fact, I also be textin' my weed man, too, cause, you know, he don't like to be on the phone, so I text 'im!

Re:Wow, what a ridiculously bad idea. (1)

QuantumFTL (197300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636134)

Matter of fact, I also be textin' my weed man, too, cause, you know, he don't like to be on the phone, so I text 'im!
I think this is a very insightful post. When dealing with illicit drug dealers (friendly or otherwise) it is important not to say anything incriminating over the phone where the Feds might hear, but if you send a text message in the style of teenage texters, that is practically encrypted!

Re:Wow, what a ridiculously bad idea. (1)

c_forq (924234) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636412)

That was actually a quote from the Boondocks, I remember seeing that one on adult swim.

Re:Wow, what a ridiculously bad idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636430)

This idea is bad on so many levels - not only are you introducing a third party unnecessarily, but it's just a rehash of collect calling, but even more annoying!

Well, you're introducing a third party because of the telcos' anticompetitive behavior. As for it being a rehash of collect calling, I really don't see what this idea has to do with collect calling at all.

Re:Wow, what a ridiculously bad idea. (1)

lagfest (959022) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636662)

I usually don't defend slashvertisement, but i didn't have mod point to mod either you or (if i could) submitter of this article down. :P

Your friend won't know the difference between this and a regular call. And you still pay for it, unless of course your friend has an account. In fact it's pretty much like skypeout except that you are using your regular phone.

WRONG! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636004)

Hey Jackass have you ever used Jahjah? The call is _free_ for both sides. Are you a shill for some competitor? How does this shit get on slashdot unverified?

Re:WRONG! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636130)

This is Slashdot. Nobody RTFA.

- Dave

Re:WRONG! (4, Funny)

slughead (592713) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636206)

Hey Jackass have you ever used Jahjah? The call is _free_ for both sides. Are you a shill for some competitor? How does this shit get on slashdot unverified?

By raffle.

Re:WRONG! (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636438)

The voicemail thing wasn't by raffle.

I got that two out of two tries.

P.S. Like the summary says, it wasn't my voicemail.

Re:WRONG! (2, Informative)

Frogbert (589961) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636256)

I think it has to do with how US Mobiles are priced. For some stupid reason in the US the one receiving the call is the one who has to pay. The rest of the world goes the more sane route where the person making the call pays.

Re:WRONG! (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636338)

There are advantages to the European system. The disadvantage is that the US is huge and would have to have a large block of mobile-only area codes so that you would know that you were calling a mobile. In each of the European countries they have dedicated mobile codes for exactly that reason. Also, the US system requires less regulation - the price of a call to a mobile phone always has to be the same amount or you would never know what kind of charges you would incur. For this reason, the US system allows better price competition. Of course, you could get a message every time you dial a mobile that gave you rate information, but that would get really old very quickly.

Re:WRONG! (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636532)

Also, the US system requires less regulation - the price of a call to a mobile phone always has to be the same amount or you would never know what kind of charges you would incur. For this reason, the US system allows better price competition.

Let me get this straight - because all calls must cost the same, you have better price competition? If they all have to cost the same, then you have no price competition!

Re:WRONG! (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636672)

No, I phrased that poorly. In the US, there are no set prices for calling a certain exchange. This leaves the cost open to competition.

Re:WRONG! (1)

kalidasa (577403) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636514)

Actually, in the US, BOTH sides have to pay: the caller pays airtime and call charges, the callee just airtime.

Re:WRONG! (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636614)

What he is saying is that in the EU, the caller is also billed for the callees airtime.

Re:WRONG! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636656)

Let's be realistic, just about everyone pays a monthly fee for cellular/mobile service. So everyone pays for the call.

My plan from Verizon Wireless comes with a certain amount of minutes, and I've had cellular service from T-Mobile and Cingular in the past, and I know they work the same way. Each call uses minutes, whether it is incoming or outgoing, during 9 AM to 9 PM. Between 9 PM and 9 AM, calls are meterless. Any time of the day, calls to-from callers with the same carrier are typically meterless. You don't really start to pay for calls until your minutes are used up.

The distinction in the US is that after you pay for your monthly service with a landline, if someone calls you, it's on their dime. (But remember, they can't call you if you don't have service.) In Europe/UK, and ostensibly other parts of the world, you don't ever pay for the incoming call, whether it's a landline or a mobile call.

(shrug)

Each method has its merits.

What really blows is that cellular/mobile services allow the sort of activity that the service discussed does. If it doesn't originate with my handheld unit, then I shouldn't get charged. Sounds like a horrible security flaw in their systems.

Re:WRONG! (1)

WoTG (610710) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636770)

But that would be no different than ANY phone call that someone answers on a cell phone in the USA (or Canada).

IMHO,t his JahJah service actually looks pretty useful...

Re:WRONG! (1)

students (763488) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636626)

More likely this is some particularly odd marketing on the part of jajah. The headline is clearly pro-jajah and the body is unbelievable, prompting people to actually click the link to see if it goes to evidence (I clicked). Seeing as you cannot spell it, I would guess you have not used jajah either.

Re:WRONG! (2, Informative)

x1n933k (966581) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636666)

JaJah is not free. It is not free for local calls, it is not free for long distance calls. Although, it is quite cheap. They give you 60 cents or so and then charge you every time you use it and then a few cents per minute. I know this because I have been using it for the last few months.

Didn't think of adding friends numbers though. The problem I see if after they rack up a bill they link it to your IP. That and of course, your friends would notice,"One moment please. Jajah is connecting your call" automated voice that talks when the 'caller' calls the 'called party'.

[J]

t(r4ollkore (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636022)

A popul4r 'news

For Americans (1, Interesting)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636032)

If this seems pointless to Americans, it's because it is. In the US, the holder of a cell phone is always responsible for the charges, no matter who places the call. In Europe, if you make a call to a cell phone YOU pick up the charges. They have special exchanges just for cell phones, so most Europeans rarely get hit with charges accidentally. Neither system is as bad as it seems from the other side :)

Re:For Americans (1)

Thisfox (994296) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636182)

So in America... You get to pay for the prank calls you recieve?

Sounds like telemarketers would have a field day. Currently I have lots of those on my housephone in Australia.... but mobiles cost too much for telemarketers to call all that often.
I can't imagine paying the phone company for calls I didn't want in the first place... Flagfall alone would be bad, even if I hung up immediately...
Or am I missing something here?

Re:For Americans (1)

Shados (741919) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636226)

As far as I know its illegal for telemarkers to call cellphones, and they have to remove you from their list if they catch you by mistake, etc. I have never, ever, not even a single time, got a telemarker on my cell, ever.

And it really is just a matter of how you see things. Right now, I'm looking for a job, and i'm out a lot... The idea of someone calling me for an interview, and having to pay for calling me, is just messed up. So both ways have their advantages.
Also, a lot of cellphone plans have "free incoming calls", so -no one- pays for those, thats always great.

Re:For Americans (1)

Zebedeu (739988) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636272)

Oh, come on!
If your prospective employer doesn't want to fork out for a measly phone call, then you probably wouldn't want to be working for them anyway.

Re:For Americans (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636356)

His was just an example. If I have a business cell I don't want to make my clients pay for the call... There would be some merit to offering both systems for those that need to be reached for free.

Re:For Americans (2, Insightful)

afaik_ianal (918433) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636496)

So use a call forwarding service. With most providers in Australia, you can hit a button on your land-line and it will divert all calls to your mobile. You pay for the redirection as if you're calling from your land-line. The caller just pays for the local call.

In reality though, it's really common for small businesses to use mobiles (especially tradespeople). AFAIK, no one really worries too much about the cost of a mobile call - it's really not that much money in the scheme of things.

Re:For Americans (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636636)

You have to understand the market in the US - people are not used to paying much of anything at all. You can get like 1000 minutes plus free calls on nights and weekends for $40/month on a cell phone. Vonage gives you unlimited free calls to almost anywhere in the world for $30/month. In contrast, the $0.18/minute that you pay in Australia seems very expensive. Even if I only use 500 of my cell minutes, I'm still only paying $0.08/minute. If I use up all 1000, it's only $0.04/minute. If I have the mobile cost in Australia wrong, my apologies... that's the premium that I pay Vonage for calling a mobile number in Australia.

Re:For Americans (1)

Gentlewhisper (759800) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636284)

Also, a lot of cellphone plans have "free incoming calls", so -no one- pays for those, thats always great.


Australia is caller-pays

Re:For Americans (1)

anthony_dipierro (543308) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636530)

If this seems pointless to Americans, it's because it is. In the US, the holder of a cell phone is always responsible for the charges, no matter who places the call.

Actually, some cell phones in the US have free incoming calls. At 2.5 cents a minute for a mobile-to-mobile call, that's a pretty good deal.

Re:For Americans (1)

jacksonj04 (800021) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636694)

It just goes to show how bloody expensive the US phone market is. For my £30/mo contract ($56) I can spend up to £90 of allowance ($170) on either texts, or calls to any UK landline or mobile. I don't pay a penny if people call me, whether I have allowance left or not.

Re:For Americans (1)

rayde (738949) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636572)

not everybody will use ONLY a cell phone to use this service. and making a phone call with it during the free nights and weekends that all mobile phone operators offer means it's free even if you DO use a cell phone.

so it's not pointless to americans. and, as other posters have mentioned, some carriers (namely, Sprint) offer free incoming calls.

Not quite (3, Informative)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636584)

So the way it works on the American system is cell phone users are always responsible for airtime charges. This means that any time you are on a call on your cellphone, it is counted against your minutes, or billed per minute if you've exceeded your monthly allotment. However any other charges are the responsibility of the caller. So if it is long distance between the two parties, the initiator of the call pays those charges, if applicable, regardless of the type of phone on either endpoint.

There are plenty of plans that make airtime charges more complicated, such as no airtime charges nights and weekends, no charges to people on the same network and so on but the basis is that the owner of the phone pays for the time it's actually on the air. However they don't pay for other charges on received calls. You can call from Germany and you'll pick up the long distance tab, I'll just be responsible for airtime. However if I call Germany I am responsible for both the airtime and the LD.

Wait until advertisers get ahold... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636046)

Remember SMS spam? When you paid per message for their advertising?

Same thing, different name.

Make anyone you want call anyone you want! (2, Interesting)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636060)

Hey, lets make some people we don't like call 911 (emergency in the states)! Or... anything we want! you just put two numbers in the form and it just makes the first person call the second one, even if they're not you!
lovely implementation....
-Taylor

I don't think they will be a friend after that. (1)

Antony-Kyre (807195) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636064)

If someone is stupid enough to actually do something like this, the concept of using this one friends is going to result in a less number of friends.

Alas... (1)

QuantumFTL (197300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636080)

Alas... girls I give my number to never call me. At least now I just what to do! Ladies - watch out, Jajah's got my back, hear?

Re:Alas... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636540)

Alas... girls I give my number to never call me. At least now I just what to do! Ladies - watch out, Jajah's got my back, hear?

So what exactly is your plan, here? You still don't have their phone number and your until you resolve your apparent illiteracy I can't see any ladies helping you out in that department.

I know... (4, Funny)

NetCow (117556) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636102)

Assuming this is true - well, I've always felt I should become friends with Darl McBride...

Good idea (1)

ipooptoomuch (808091) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636112)

It sounds like it is completely worthless but Slashdot just made it ingenious. It is worthless for the end user but it is great for novelty value. Just think how many slashdotters are going to use this service after Slashdot gave it free advertising points. Jajah is going to make LOTS of money from just an average person using it as a joke.

Slashdot service: Translation of Article Title (1)

Dystopian Rebel (714995) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636126)

"Get G-G-G-Girls To Call You"

Not worthless for what it's meant to do. (1)

stunt_penguin (906223) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636210)

This not a completely worthless service- in fact I think it's quite clever- certainly too clever for the writer of this article to grasp. This service allows international calls to be made for the price of two local rate calls. Sounds pretty fucking good to me.

I just used the service to connect my Irish landline here to my parent's phone at home in N.Ireland, and it worked perfectly; whatever rate the two calls cost (local calls are free in the UK at certain times), it's certainly cheaper than the 40 cents a minute I'd normally pay for such a call.

It's a tricky concept to grasp, but if people 'get' it, then this service is of at leas *some* value for the time being.

Re:Not worthless for what it's meant to do. (2, Funny)

G_Sus2019 (889273) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636262)

Its also perfect for revenge. I just used it to connect someone who stole my copy of Rushmore to various gay phone sex lines. Watching the animation as it went from "Pick up your phone" to "Dialling the other number" to "Connected" made my heart smile.

Re:Not worthless for what it's meant to do. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636312)

yeah i kinda feel that the original poster is totally missing the point of this service. and it seems that if the call is between 2 registered users, it is free.

i don't see where the problem is..

Re:Not worthless for what it's meant to do. (1)

fbjon (692006) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636674)

It seems pretty expensive actually, compared to SkypeOut. Except for the free offer of course.

JaJah is GREAT! (5, Informative)

yfarjoun (878821) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636276)

I don't know what the poster is high on. Jajah is simply a way to call long-distance for cheap. I use it all the time for calling international and long distance (I hate talking on the cell-phone for a long time).

The way that they work is that they call both you and your party and connect the call via VOIP. However, you foot the bill with a credit card. I tried many other calling-card companies, Skype, and whatnot. So far, Jajah is pretty good, and darn cheap.

Sure, you could sign up and put your friends number, but it will not charge any money to them. My only complaint is that you can only change your phone numbers 3 times so if you move often (as I have over the last few months) you might have to open a new account.

They even give you a few $$$ to spend BEFORE they ask for your credit card number! so you can try them out for "free".

yfarjoun.

Re:JaJah is GREAT! (1)

ichandarin (713953) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636570)

Futurephone (www.futurephone.com) works pretty well, too -- You call a number in Iowa (which is free for many people with cell phones) and they connect (presumably via VoIP) to whatever land line you want, internationally. So far there don't seem to be any catches. You can't call many international cell phones, and you do have to pay for a call to Iowa. But other than that, it's totally free!

The question is this... (1)

TCK314 (969876) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636280)

Which is the worse idea, Jahjah or Jar Jar Binks?

Story is Deliberately Misleading (1)

Aelix (687985) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636296)

This is a hypothetical situation that only occurs if you purposely use the system wrong. Normally, if you enter your number for your number, and their number for their number, everything is charged as it should be... and nothing AT ALL is charged unless you get charged for you cell airtime. If someone was actually abusing this their friends would get right pissed off in no time, if a company was abusing this they would get in so much legal trouble... this is a non-issue.

Re:Story is Deliberately Misleading (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636688)

Because spammers, telemarketers and politicians are always oh-so-careful not to misuse systems or annoy people. But I'm glad to see you have confidence in your fellow citizens.

What was your phone number again?

submitter confused (2, Informative)

BarneyRubble (180091) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636298)

Jajah call works by making 2 two local calls to to the participants and then
connecting these two local calls over the internet (voip). The advantage for
international calling should be obvious.

In normal use jajah requires you to credit your account (visa,mastercard etc) and then charges
for calls. And although you could use it for prank calls by registering someone else
phone number then connecting them to someone else (the queen or whoever) you would have to
pay.

There is a free trail where you could set up a prank call for free but your friends wouldn't pay,
it would be jajah that would pick up the bill.

  Unless in the US or somewhere you have to pay to *receive* calls but even
then it wouldnt cost your friend anymore than if you phoned him/her normally.
 

Another Bad Idea (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636310)

This is about the best example of a bad idea, with terrible implementation, that I have seen all day.

Well, the day ain't over yet, so why not cause as much trouble as possible by publicizing this on a slow news day? I blame the editor for letting this one through.

Re:Another Bad Idea (1)

foobsr (693224) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636582)

I blame the editor for letting this one through.

The general audience gets the editors it deserves, namely, quote from his site; "Someone who will do the job right -- according to you -- the first time, on time and on budget."

I bet especially the latter mentioned quality aspect was the right fix.

CC.

Even dumbed than JaJah... Slashdot ers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636322)

This is pathetic. How many people are so stupid that they are going to miss understand what JaJah does and then trash it for being a dumb idea.

Good Work.

More serious: DOS their phone (1)

coljac (154587) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636382)

Sure, in the US the receiver of a mobile call has to use his minutes. But even if I exchange the source and destination numbers in Jajah, how is this different to just calling my friend on his mobile *without* Jajah? It seems like a sensible service to me. However, you could use it to make prank calls; that doesn't seem like a groundbreaking loophole - you can make prank calls already - although in this case you could write a script to DOS someone's phone vua the Jajah website.

Exes (3, Funny)

Joebert (946227) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636388)

This has Ex-Girlfriends written all over it.

Best way to get you friends to call you More (2, Funny)

brusk (135896) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636406)

Be descended from this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_More [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Best way to get you friends to call you More (1)

It'sYerMam (762418) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636796)

I think it's worrying I read it as "get your friends to call you `whore`"

Nice but limited... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636604)

I prefere VoipBuster.

http://www.voipbuster.com/ [voipbuster.com]
http://www.voipstunt.com/ [voipstunt.com]
http://www.netappel.fr/ [netappel.fr]
http://www.sipdiscount.com/ [sipdiscount.com]
etc...

10 euros and you can call in many countries for *free* during 120 days
after theses 120 days, these countries cost 1 euro-cent/min
When you are low in credit, you just need to add 10 euros to your account and you have 120 free days again.

You can also enter the phone number where you are (mobile phone, landline, work phone number, friend phone number, etc) and the number where you want to call. This cost only 5 euro-cents (not by minutes... only 5 cents).

This way, you can make long distance from work (if you have a direct number... or if you correspondant know your company and extension number...) even if you are not authorised for long-distance call. With this, you only need the computer with internet to make the connection, after that, you can close the browser.

You need to install their software to subscribe to their service.
After that, you can use any softphone or hardphone compatible SIP.
So you can use x-lite, sjphone or whatever else to make the calls.
Personnally, I use this service only for the phone-to-phone connection at 5... you have more flexibility and it's cheap!

The joke's on me? (1)

BeeBeard (999187) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636622)

I've read their website and I watched their demo, and I'm just sure there is some kind of catch. Could someone who has been using this service for a while report if there have been any unexpected surprises on their phone bill? Is the quality like Skype i.e. is it sometimes cackly and doesn't handle bidirectional speech well?

Sidenote: It doesn't help either that I speak Spanish and keep reading the name of their service as "Hah Hah". You know like, "Ha hah, the joke's on you when we bill you three dollars a minute 18 months from now..."

Inform me, please.

Re:The joke's on me? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636676)

Since when you are billed 5$/min by receiving a call?

You need to approve a collected call... by the way, never answer the phone by: "Yes"
You could accept a collected call ;-)

This is SIP, VOIP quality... they have good Internet Access.. but sometimes, it can be "cackly" as you said...
Most of the time, this is really good or good enough for a conversation.

Sometimes... it's like sh**

It's often worst if you have VOIP and you call someone who is already on voip... 1 delay plus 1 delay plus 1 delay = 1 long delay :-/

The best... try it and see for the quality... with jajah, you have 5 minutes
with http://www.voipbuster.com/ [voipbuster.com] you can try the same thing but during 1 minute

Personnaly, I use voipbuster...

But I have no friends... (1)

rannala (876724) | more than 7 years ago | (#16636644)

...you insensitive clod!

Btw. in soviet russia, you call friends.. no wait.

what just happend? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16636700)

Ok. I don't like this idea at all and plan to push to have this service turned off!

I've (since this posting) have received 4 calls from porn sites. How do you block your own phone from calling you?

So No I have to manage getting spam in my snailmail, in my email, spam in text messages to my phone, and NOW I have to get spam on my Cellphone in the form of phone calls?!?!

Oh... AND IT's anonymous?

Hellz no!

If something isn't done about this, you'll be hearing my pain months from now...
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