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Transmeta Unveiled in November?

CmdrTaco posted more than 14 years ago | from the are-we-there-yet dept.

Technology 111

terrified writes "This little blurb on Yahoo news this morning says that Linus is hinting at an announcement from Transmeta at the November Comdex in Las Vegas. " We need to set up some pools: When the secret will be revealed, and maybe some sort of pools for what the secret is. Transmeta employees who leak data to me will be given a cut if I win ;)

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111 comments

Re:from a transmeta employee's desk.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665065)

What? What kind of joke is this/you?

Contest for most interesting theory (1)

snafford (94588) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665066)

Why don't you hold a contest to see who can come up with the most interesting Transmeta product announcement. My Submission: Transmeta will announce a new fully automated, web accessible home yogurt maker. Funding was provided by Ron Popiel. Linus Torvalds was hired, not because of his computer expertise, but because of this little known fact: he is the world's foremost expert on small batch yogurt production. That's why he has time to work on Linux. They only need him to taste the yogurt.

Re:Some speculation about Transmeta's activities (1)

toni (3262) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665067)

I've been saying this for ages but nobody believes me.

Closed source Linus (2)

florin (2243) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665068)

Just as a general observation, did anyone else find it amusing to see just how strikingly different in nature Linus' day and evening jobs are?

He got famous by starting a completely open project, in a very humble fashion, inviting anyone who felt like it to help turn it into something really useful. Everything in the spirit of cooperation and selflessly making things better for users everywhere. I think we can say he succeeded far beyond what he set out to do and that his work has affected the industry on the whole to no small degree.

Now he's an anchor of one of the most secretive companies in this industry. He can't even say anything about what he's working on or what the company is going to do. We only know the company grabs patents to the left and to the right and we anticipate that it's going to make a big splash someday.

Whether or not that is true remains to be seen, but hiring him was a good move by Transmeta. Legends are the only thing the company has, so far.

Transmeta IPO (1)

nash0r (26139) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665069)

So when do they go public? :)

Re:HTML Hype? (1)

Jupiter2 (83436) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665070)

Even better is the line which says:

!-- There are no tyops in this web page. --

Coincidence? (1)

Tekmage (17375) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665071)

So on one hand Linus has a vision [techweb.com] , where his focus was on designing Linux for appliances smaller than laptops rather than putting it on desktops, and on the other we have Amiga's Internet appliance plans [amiga.com] , not to mention their support for Linux [amiga.com] .

Thoughts?

Even more off topic (1)

DanaL (66515) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665072)

>> What do you want to do now TELL ME!
>> > smell bill

>> BILL GATES smell of POO!!!

>> > shoot bill

But would actually go like:

> shoot bill

With what?

> with gun

Huh?

> shoot bill with gun

Which gun: the pearl handled six shooter gun or the glossy black uzi gun?

> the uzi

Huh?

> sht bill with glossy black uzi gun

I don't understand sht

> shot bill with glossy black uzi gun

The glossy black uzi gun is not loaded

and so on...

:) :)

-Dana (I miss Infocom!)

Plz give us your home addr so we can slash-dot you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665073)

Ignorant tyrant. All public knowledge should belong to the public, so that anybody else could implement their ideas for whatever they want. If after buring down Transmeta, we find out that their way to speed is via a self replicating/evolving ALU core(or maybe it just consits of a 100 billion row abacus,) then somebody else would invent use that idea and come out with something better. Of course, we would still need demons like Intel to fab the chips, but by cannot go and milk us since the technology is not exclusive to them.

We're not here to make Andy Grove get a bigger house, we are only here to advance technology of any type for the human race.


Free the information to the world and the world would be free.

Transmeta's Web Page (1)

redmist (51090) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665074)

"There are no secret messages in the source code to this web page.
There are no tyops in this web page."

-a message in the source of Transmeta's site

Microsoft Slackware (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665075)

Besides, I think Slackware sounds better than 'Microsoft,' don't you?


Of course, if we're talking anatomy, they both mean pretty much the same thing.

Re:One good idea (1)

paRcat (50146) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665076)

I don't know about that... I've had at least two good ideas in my lifetime.

Re:The Truth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665077)

I reckon the original idea was brilliant, but a little ahead of its time, they tried to push it, it didnt work, they're frantic trying to get it to work, it isnt working, they need more time, they have found something other than what they started doing which actually does work, now they are going to announce that and it will be pretty good.

interesting fact (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665078)

>Transmeta is working on something very cool. >.... >Trey
with all the speculation here I reckon this is at least one valid bit of hard information. Although this maybe an 'AC' I reckon the 'id' of this person pretty well matches a person who knows someone currently working at TM.
so those who doubt TM is doing something better read this again. Right TH?
Info:
=================
Home state: Seattle
Name: Trey

Transmeta = Star Wars episode 1. (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665079)

somehoe I doubt they will be able to live up the hype we have created for them.

My bet is on... (1)

EverCode (60025) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665080)

that they are working on a new hardware platform aimed at server applications. Linus is there to write a highly optimized Linux kernel for this platform.

I am not sure what benefits would come out of a new CPU design, however. Even if it can run different types of binaries, who cares? It is best to have a standard anyway, and if there is a standard, then the app you need is most likely going to be available for it. Maybe they just have some sort of breakthrough in CPU speed in the works, and everything else on the platform to go along with it...

EC

Re:The benifits to Transmeta.. (1)

HiThere (15173) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665081)

I suppose it they are really developing something special, they might need to take awhile to get it right. Still, the scenery has been boring.

Re:Linux 2.4 Kernel (1)

luge (4808) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665082)

Can you say "this is not a typo" in french? I think the Magritte interpretation, if nothing else, at least gives me a little insight into someones sense of humor (if not necessarily any insight into the product...)
~luge

Re:My guess (1)

taniwha (70410) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665083)

>are you for real .... do you work for them ....


I'm for real, I'm an architecture junkie and sometimes chip monkey ..... no I don't work
for them.


He asked for entries in the pool for "what they will announce".


My ideas are based on public stuff I've seen on the net, where the bleeding-edge-state-of-the-art is and what I know about the problems they may be trying to solve. I have no special knowledge from behind the transmeta non-reality zone

Re:It's a mind reading implant chip for the NSA! (2)

toni (3262) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665088)

I was there. It was yesterday and yes, Transmeta did come up several times... the first question out of the audience after Linus spoke was "what does Transmeta do?"
Some crazy woman wanted to ask Linus something: She started talking about how information technology could be used for monitoring people and stealing their freedom. THEN she started claiming that in the '50's 3 million people had been implanted with a MICROCHIP (a microchip in the 50's!) and that just last week she spoke with a colonel who had refused a microchip. Then she furiously went on saying that soon all babies will be implanted and in the future it will be possible to remotely read anyone's thoughts with such a chip. At this point the audience was laughing their asses off. To this Linus simply replied, "well that was kind of an UFO talk, but.. I can' really reveal what Transmeta is doing (laughter from audience), but anyways, I think information technology will actually help people gain more freedom'
Later on someone was talking about how technology can help us to talk to old or sick people who can no longer talk, to which Linus replied 'talking to the dead, you mean?'. Then one of the panelists said 'Now I REALLY want to know what Transmeta is doing'

Translation (3)

bergie (29834) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665089)

This is done in a bit of haste, sorry...

No new revelations of the mysterious Transmeta

Creator of the Linux Operating System, Linus Torvalds's employes creates some questions: Nobody knows what it does. Torvalds made one revelation to Tietoviikko today: He revealed when he will reveal what Transmeat does. The schedule for the announcement will be told in the Comdex trade show in mid-November.

No further information on Torvald's mysterious employes has spread to public. Transmeta has been suspected for example to be working on a highly efficient microprocessor. Or some other groundbreaking program. Transmeta's homepage at www.transmeta.com [transmeta.com] doesn't offer too many hints - not even in the source code for the page, which points out that there are no revelations on Transmeta there.

"My strongest guess is that Transmeta doesn't do anything", said Risto Siilasmaa, the CEO of information security company Data Fellows in the Information Society seminar held in Helsinki University on Wednesday. One possibility is that Transmeta's employees just hang around in their work place, and then sell the hyped-up company onwards for a good price.

Philosopher Pekka Himanen, who also spoke at the Information Society seminary told that he has visited the front of Transmeta's office. The office building has darkened glasses and doesn't let visitors in.

Linus Torvalds placed his words carefully in Thurday on Transmeta announcements. "I can only say now that we will announce the schedule for the announcement at Comdex, but this can also be subject to changes", Torvalds said cryptically.

(Translated from http://www.tietoviikko.c om/cgi-bin/lueuutinen.cgi?id=45382 [tietoviikko.com] )

/Bergie

--

Socioeconomic study (3)

Urmane (2213) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665090)

Transmeta is actually a socioeconomic study, detailing the psychological, sociological, and economical/financial effects of secrecy, memes, alternative business practices, and venture capitalism.

Their findings, scheduled to be released in November, reveal much about human interaction as it relates to the above factors, and is entitled, "Gullibility: We Can't Believe You Retards Fell For It!"

;-)

Chips that can change on the fly. (1)

srp (78326) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665091)

Another poster said something about a chip that can change its personality by downloading microcode. I think this a pretty good guess, but they might have taken it one step further.

They might have come up with a chip (or chips) that can actually run multiple different microcode sets at the same time. The benefit here would be that the consumer wouldn't have to switch between different microcode and reboot machines everytime they wanted to use something else. They'd be able to run multiple OSs at the same time, ala VMWARE.

My guess (1)

taniwha (70410) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665092)

OK - here's my guess (from what little I have to go on)
  • A new CPU with a new ISA
    • fast as possible (of course)
    • probably risky
    • gotta be cheaper than Intel
    • designed for high instruction-level parallelism
    • threaded? (this one's more of a guess)
  • support for on-the-fly recompilation of x86 instructions into the new ISA
    • probably some MMU support
    • maybe some hardware help for x86 instruction decode
    • maybe something to collect stats on instruction usage
  • maybe some support for x86 instruction emulation
  • a meta-OS that hosts the recompilation stuff - it hosts other OSs (Windows for example)
  • maybe also a native Linux that can run x86 binaries directly mixed with native ones

Digital already did this one (1)

Yarn (75) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665093)

Part of the Alpha chipset was named EV after Electric Vlastic (sp?), a phenomenon in which passing a large current through certain pickle made it glow an eerye green.

I read this a long time ago, and I cant remember where, so it MUST be true :)

Re:guess: multiple personality processor (1)

MassacrE (763) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665094)

"But would you really opt to run Linux in an x86 emulation mode? Surely running it on the native instruction set/processor, or under an emulation of say Alpha would be much better."

No, I would run it under the native instruction set. Transmeta has several compiler writers and of course linux to make a direct port very speedy.

"This could also make the idea of vmware obsolete, imagine being able to save/restore the machine state to special areas of disk/memory. You could cycle through operating systems rather than terminals using alt + F key."

With many operating systems you can do this already. Hardware and memory access are the only real problems.

HTML Hype? (1)

BRTB (30272) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665095)

Found in the HTML of Transmeta [transmeta.com] 's website:

[!-- There are no secret messages in the source code to this web page. --]

floating logos (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665096)

I've also thought that Microsoft's logo floating in the cloads was reminiscent of Magritte

Back in my college days sometimes everybody would just throw all the laundry in a big heap in the corner of the room. If you threw a blanket over the cloads it was kind of like a big beanbag chair (which was like free furniture). But, if you just dove in to the uncovered cloads heap, you'd end up half buried, floating in the cloads.

Re:My guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665097)

Are you for real? and if you do work for them, why don't they just announce it and get more publicity for it. If they are going to design it and then try to sell it.. how? they need money and investors... Its got to be really cool if Linus and paul Alan are working on it.

Re:Transmeta IPO (1)

MassacrE (763) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665098)

Hehe, what do you think they are announcing at Comdex? A product?? Geesh..

Wouldn't it be hilarious if they went public before their product was disclosed?

latin 101 (2)

dantes (89932) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665099)

trans- \Trans-\ [L. trans across, over.] A prefix, signifying over, beyond, through and through, on the other side, as in transalpine, beyond the Alps; transform, to form through and through, that is, anew, transfigure.

meta -/me't*/ or /may't*/ or (Commonwealth) /mee't*/ A prefix meaning one level of description higher. If X is some concept then meta-X is data about, or processes operating on, X.

both definitions from dictionary.com

btw the name transmeta was almost supplanted by Interpseudo, Megareference, and PrestoChango!!!

Re:Burn down Transmeta (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665100)

uhhh. i guess this post was flame bait. you're free to hack your kernel all you want boyo. and you're free to release those hacks to the community. i don't see how Linus is a manarch or dictator, or whatever you were trying te say. the '/' was carried over from unix -- linux is, afterall a unix clone. besides '\' sucks...dos uses it and it's not as accessible as /. blah.

Re:Even more off topic (1)

Ender_the_Xenocide (71196) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665101)

Well, stop missing Infocom, and head over to

http://www.xyzzynews.com

There's probably a more comprehensive starting point, but this is the first URL that popped into my head. Check out the "community" link especially.

(Just two weeks till the '99 I-F competition! http://www.textfire.com)

Three levels of indirection (1)

Ender_the_Xenocide (71196) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665102)

>``I think I can now tell you when I will be able to tell you,'' Linus said on the sidelines of a seminar.
>
>``The company has considered saying something at Comdex, or at least saying when we will announce something.''

So a better first sentence would have been, "I think I can now tell you when I will be able to tell you when I will be able to tell you."

Joe

boobie prize! (1)

mistabobdobalina (29109) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665103)

congratulations you are the ONE MILLIONTH person to recognize the 'no secret messages' comment in the html for transmeta.com! you win one free amiga toaster using transmeta cpu running linux-transmeta(tm) jit compiling jini services to java bytecode and toasting bread also

Re:guess: multiple personality processor (2)

AJWM (19027) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665106)

The multiple personality processor is not a new idea of course, although doing it as a microprocessor may be.

The Burroughs B1700 (as I recall) was one such user-microprogrammable CPU, with standard microprograms to optimize the architecture for running ALGOL programs, or for COBOL programs, and so on. I seem to recall from the same era a nanoprogrammable machine -- the nanocode was horizontal (very wide instruction word) and that reprogrammed the architecture on which the (vertical) microprograms ran (which reprogrammed ... etc)).

Doing all this on a microprocessor would be pretty neat (I'm trying to remember if Intel's iAPX 432 Ada chip had some of this capability). Being able to do it on the fly (at a context switch, say) from a micro- or nano-program cache would be doubly so.

Whether applications (or even the kernel) could be compiled down to the microinstruction level would very much depend on the specific memory architecture - microprogram words might be a totally different size from the main memory and transferring data/code between the two different memories could be too much of a bottleneck to run the application that way. But it probably wouldn't be necessary: a really smart compiler will optimize the top level instruction set for the program and generate the appropriate microcode for that instruction set. (Some work was done on this on the micro/nano programmable machines of back in the late 70's - I haven't followed it since then.)

Of course, for any such chip, being able to run native x86/PPC/you-name-it binaries would fall out as a natural given appropriate swappable microcode. Given techniques developed for Java machines like JIT, those binaries could even be recompiled on-the-fly into better microcode for improved performance over what the orginal chip would give. The trick comes in managing all this, which is where someone with operating system expertise comes in.

Re:Transmeta = Star Wars episode 1. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665108)

Transmeta will unveil an amazing new technology. Not only is it a chip that can run multiple binary formats... Not only can it run different binaries simultaneously... Not only is there a meta-hyper-sooperdooper OS that ties all this together... The chip will also run an advanced AI simulation at all times, which speaks (using and advanced on-chip micro-mini-mega-speaker just like Jar-Jar Binks!!!

Re:Chips that can change on the fly. (1)

AJWM (19027) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665110)

Seems reasonable. As I mentioned above the idea of reloadable microcode machines goes back a long way, its just that nobody (AFAIK) has done a microprocessor that way. (They've come close -- there was a UCSD P-code chipset that used the same processor as the LSI-11 (PDP-11 architecture) but with a different microcode chip - suppose that microcode chip had been writeable?).

Given a fairly vanilla RISC core and a lot of on-chip writeable memory for the microcode, you're there. Optimizing it, parallelizing it, and coming up with quick ways of swapping microcode (to a different architecture) make it better. Really fast ways of swapping microcode (say on a context switch) and something like just-in-time compiling of new microcode to optimize an application's code make it better yet, and all this is within the realm of current state of the art.

You'd need a smart OS to manage it -- partly like VMware and partly like the way the Linux loader can invoke a JVM to run a Java class file (or the app of your choice to run the program types of your choice if you configure it).

If this isn't what Transmeta is doing, somebody else ought to. It's just too cool.

The Truth (1)

devinoni (13244) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665114)

This is probably just a publicity stunt by transmeta. They'll probably debut with their "vaporware" product in 2000.

Though it would be nice to actually know what they are actually doing.

No News Pool (1)

swb (14022) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665115)

If you're going to run a pool, how about the "Nothing Will be Revealed" pool? I think that's the one I'd put my money in.

It's so secretive, it's gotta be good. (1)

Nerant (71826) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665116)

UBER LOGIC =1;
Going by uber logic, Transmeta's incredible secrecy plus Linus gives me only one uber logical conclusion.

The technology is going to change the world as we know it. (passe, cliche? sigh. only so many ways to say it. )



Don't be surprised if it isn't as INCREDIBLE.. (2)

smkndrkn (3654) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665117)

While I wonder what exactly it is that they do over there at transmeta I'm not going to enter into a pool or get too excited about it. Afterall they are just another company with some kind of product to push...can't be anything too terribly exciting there. The whole "we are top secret and we aren't telling you anything" is just a marketing gimick to raise attention. Guess what it worked! I'm even curious. Lets just hope whatever it is they do or make is as good as all the speculation makes it seem.

Re:The Truth (2)

Suydam (881) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665118)

Publicity stunt?! Why would they do something like that? Transmeta has been 100% mum about their company from day 1. We've certainly all been very vocal on the matter....but they've shown very little interest in publicity stunts to the best of my knowledge.

It's funny though. In the age of corporate memos leaking to the media, hype for everything from tacos to movies, Transmeta's (unintentionally?) pulled the greatest publicity stunt of all time: silence.

Re:Don't be surprised if it isn't as INCREDIBLE.. (1)

smkndrkn (3654) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665119)

of course it is redundant I hit stop on the browser to fix a spelling mistake and didn't realize the first one posted ..sheesh

Don't be surprised if it isn't as INCREDIBLE.. (0)

smkndrkn (3654) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665120)

While I wonder what exactly it is that they do over there at transmeta I'm not going to enter into a pool or get too excited about it. After all they are just another company with some kind of product to push...can't be anything too terribly exciting there. The whole "we are top secret and we aren't telling you anything" is just a marketing gimmick to raise attention. Guess what it worked! I'm even curious. Lets just hope whatever it is they do or make is as good as all the speculation makes it seem.

Attitude shift completed (1)

CrosseyedPainless (27978) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665121)

Well, I just went from "would like to go to COMDEX" to "would sell plasma to go to COMDEX"....

Coolest company? (1)

El Volio (40489) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665122)

I gotta admit, I'm absolutely intrigued by this company refusing to hype its product. "Don't believe the hype!" Well, in this case, there isn't any. Everyone has their own ideas (although in all honesty there are some pretty good clues) and so what normally would be another ho-hum startup has got the entire techie world waiting with baited breath to find out what it is.

'Course, we're not gonna find out in November, either. As Linus said, "The company has considered saying something at Comdex, or at least saying when we will announce something." (italics added - duh!)

That said, if there are any Transmeta employees out there, please torment Rob with the most vague, ambiguous comments to increase his pain! :)

The benifits to Transmeta.. (2)

Thomas Charron (1485) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665123)

As much as I'd like to think Transmeta will be coming out with some drastically different way of thinking of processors, I can't help but wonder if all of the hype is simply that, just hype. They do benifit greatly from the publicity caused by the secrecy, and it provides pretty much 'free advertising' for them. When I see it, I will whole heartedly cheer them on, but, as the saying goes.. "SHOW ME the MONEY!!!!"

What I want to know is... (0)

Kewp (31180) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665124)

Will their product be open-sourced?

Transmeta slashbox (1)

InvisibleCraterFunk (29222) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665125)

We need a Transmeta slashbox that tracks every change on http://www.transmeta.com/.
Btw, it is interesting to note that the site runs Apache/1.1.1. It's a while since that version was released. I wonder what kernel version it is running..

its is a doomsday machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665126)

have you ever saw the movie dr. strangelove? it is the doomsday machine!!!!!!! or a cool replacement for the good doctor's "bad" hand.

Transmeta releases flagship glowing_pickle product (2)

Laxitive (10360) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665127)

The secret came out yesterday, as Representatives from transmeta unveiled the culmination of the past two years off effort: a pickle that glows green, yet is not radioactive nor toxic. The project was kept shrouded in secrecy because of the threat of Transmeta's space age glowing pickle technology becoming revealed to the public and other companies.
"We wanted to corner the market on glowing pickles, and because of the kind of cutthroat competition in this field, Transmeta had to do everything it could to keep it's intellectual property safe," said CEO of Transmeta David Ditzel.
Reached for comment at his home, Transmeta employee Linus Torvalds had this to say:
"I didnt want to work on something that was directly related to Linux."
The pickle technology developed at Transmeta is clean and amenable to mass production. With the release of this product, Transmeta establishes itself as one of the leading high tech pickle vendors.
"From now on, when you say -glowing pickle-, the one thing that will come to mind is -transmeta-. They will corner the market with their extremely solid product," says market analyst Reddy Terwal.
The glowing pickle product, incidentally, will be named "This product is not named yet".
--

Seriously though folks, does _ANYONE_ know what the hell is going on in there? Do you think that just maybe, perchance, this great secrecy is a nice little PR move to get people excited?

Remember the simpsons episode where "gabbo" came to springfield? The only ads they ran for him either went "Gabbo is COMING!!" or "gabbo.. Gabbo.. GABBO!!", about 3 second soundbytes. Somehow, it smells the same way for this whole Transmeta thing.

-Laxative

Re:The benifits to Transmeta.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665128)

I used to get excited about transmeta but now the "guess-what-we've-got" game is..well..*yawn* boring me to tears.

Re:guess: multiple personality processor (1)

BarfBits (94167) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665129)

Hmmm, an uber-Merced chip with programmable schizophrenic uP emulations? I suppose it would make sense why Paul Allen would be a VC for them -- don't have to keep porting MS* code to different platforms.

Here's my guess (4)

Bob Ince (79199) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665130)

My guess is they've been slaving away on the technology behind the next generation of gaming, a new breed of interactive fiction with incredible lifelike gameplay.

Though shadowy contacts with Transmeta's sinister agents I have managed to obtain this transcript, which should hopefully convey some the raw excitement on offer.

Transmeta Adventure
An Interactive Next-Generation Gaming Experience
by Linux Torwald and David Ditzy

You are in a cave there is BILL GATES here!!!

What do you want to do now TELL ME!
> smell bill

BILL GATES smell of POO!!!

> shoot bill

You shoot the BILL GATES with GUN! He disappears in a puff of smoke! Very good!

(Your score has gone up by two points.)

> release new software release beating windows

Yes! You have won!! and You get yoghurt!

(--end of transcript--)

Apparently the full version will also feature a section where you have to get the treasure and successfully negotiate a maze of twisty little stock options, all alike. Personally I can't wait.

(Look, none of us have a clue what's they're doing, so why not fill this article up with off-topic rubbish? Well that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.)


--

Jerk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665131)

Jerk

Re:Transmeta slashbox (1)

terrified (89447) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665132)

queso says:
206.184.214.11:80 * Linux 1.3.xx, 2.0.0 to 2.0.34

doesn't give architecture, tho :)

Re:Transmeta releases flagship glowing_pickle prod (2)

Selfish Gene (88234) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665133)

Honestly, the last time I heard this much speculation, pointed silence, and rumer-mongering around Slashdot was....

....April Fools?

Call me cynical, but I got played for a sap then, and I don't really intend to this time around.

Transmeta may come out with something Really Cool - but until They say something official about it, it doesn't really affect me.

Re:Transmeta releases flagship glowing_pickle prod (1)

ellbee (93668) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665134)

At least one member of Transmeta's hardware team used to work at DEC WRL, which issued that famous technical note on electric pickles [digital.com] . Transmeta could have hired him for his pickle know-how, which when added to Linus' lutefisk background may give us another hint towards Transmeta's plan for world domination. ellbee

Not it isn't. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665135)

Liar, liar, your pants burn with fire.

Re:Linux 2.4 Kernel (1)

frantzdb (22281) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665136)

For anyone who hasn't, view source on Transmeta's page... I think there may be secret messages in the source code to the web page :-)


--Ben

Vaporware? Not! (2)

Industrial Disease (16177) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665137)

As I understand the term, "vaporware" is an announced but not (and possibly never to be) released product, publicized in order to "compete" with an existing product. The idea is to prevent buyers from purchasing the existing product while waiting (maybe forever) for the release of yours. To skip the usual anti-MS rhetoric, I consider Sony's PS2 and Nintendo's Dolphin projects to be vaporware competition to Sega's Dreamcast (even though I am holding out for PS2 myself).

If Transmeta is vaporware, what existing product are they competing with? They aren't pre-empting sales of any existing product, because no one knows exactly what product Transmeta is supposed to be better than. Vaporware, no. Not hype either, because they aren't promoting whatever they're doing themselves, a wierd sort of anti-hype. What we're seeing (and generating for that matter) is "Buzz", all coming from outside sources who want to know what's going on.

Wonder how much Comdex paid... (2)

Ratface (21117) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665138)

.. to have Transmeta get all the Linux nerds frothing at the mouth to go to this year's Comdex.

This is the best advertising stunt going - wish I had thought of it.

Re:Attitude shift completed (2)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665139)

Oh comeon, your plasma is only worth a cookie or two, get real. If you were really serious you would sell one of your lungs for COMDEX.

Transmeta revealed. (1)

Matt2000 (29624) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665140)

Today the mysterious company known as Transmeta finally revealed its primary business as marketing. Other areas of expertise include making geeks crazy by thinking up cool names and not telling them what they mean.

When asked what future projects they would be working on, a company spokseperson said "Our next initiative is named GorpoTron 3000, but I can't tell you what it does."


Hotnutz.com [hotnutz.com]

Re:Chips that can change on the fly. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665141)

So what we are going to see will be a rectal powered, mice hunting penguin - perhaps - anyway, a must have for all who have everything and Christmas will not be too far away then either.

Not that I would be curious of course.

If theres a pool (1)

Lucidity (88012) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665142)

If there is a pool put me down for $20. I'm wagering they will make a FGP (Field Gate Processor) that will run 6,000 times fater than a 500 PIII.

How do you make an open source CPU? Easy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665143)

Distribute the netlist or the VHDL code for it,
or whatever language it is designed in.

Very simple.

Heard of ARM? Their CPUs are available to other people for a fee under licenses - you buy the rights to use their "netlist" to implement the CPU in your own products.

For an open source CPU, you simply make those netlists (in whatever form - Verilog, VHDL, whatever) freely available as you do with any other source code.
Sun already offer the source to some of their Sparc CPUs for free under their wassname license.

The idea of insisting that Transmeta release their CPU as open source does have rather a lot of appeal to it, especially bearing in mind who is involved and their dislike of anything non-open

Hmmmmm..... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665144)

I can just imagine the announcement being made by Linus and then him remarking as he pulls out his pair of MP5's that because he told us he must now kill us all, followed by much maniacal laughter of course!.

Re:Transmeta IPO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665145)

No, it wouldn't be "funny", it would merely confirm that Transmeta is nothing but a money-raising venture, as an increasing number are beginning to suspect...

If they go public before announcing a product, then don't touch them with a bargepole, 'cos the only ones making any money out of it will be Linus & co.

Re:Burn down Transmeta (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665146)

It might be news to you, but your freedom stops where others freedom starts.

But what for do I try talking to a maniac.

Re:Transmeta = Star Wars episode 1. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665147)

... and after having made its first connection to ./ the prototype chip will melt down ... suicide 8)

Re:floating cloud - logos subliminal Disney thang? (1)

gdav (2540) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665148)

Windows 95's clouds were, well, just clouds.

They redesigned them for Windows 98, and whenever I see them, I expect to see, in the centre, not the Windows logo, but Donald Duck.

george

Having Interviewed at Transmeta (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665149)

I interviewed at Transmeta back in March - just so you know, I have no intention of revealing the slightest thing about what they're doing there so dont bother asking.

Anyway, onward.

I interviewed, signed an NDA - you know the deal. They made me a great offer, another company I interviewed with also made me a great offer, but I refused both offers because I wanted to stay in Seattle and work on my-own-thing (tm).

Transmeta is working on something very cool. When they announce what they're doing, everyone will say "wow, that *is* cool". In the meantime, all these speculations (the NSA brain implant is funny) are pretty much pointless.

Some of you clever folks might think - well if he didnt take the job then whatever they're doing probably isnt that fantastic. I feel obligated to mention, therefore, that the job I'm looking for is one where someone pays me to work on whatever I want whenever I want wherever I want. Unfortunately, Transmeta just wasn't able to fit that clause into the contract :P.

Trey

There IS no product in development at Transmeta... (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665150)

...they are simply making a very good attempt at the standard way of making a fortune in this day and age, as follows.

You set up a company, keeping secret exactly what it is you are working on. You raise Venture Capital. You hype like mad [but see below...]. You raise more and more VC. You float the company in one way or another. You hype the price up an dup and up. You sell your stock. You announce "Oh shit. Our vapor product didn't work so we are abandoning it but we'll be back later". You then wait a little while, start up another company and continue the process - those who found the company make an absolute FORTUNE out of this. It's been done many times before, and it'll be done again.

The only thing unique about Transmeta's approach is that they themselves do not publically hype, they just reply on Linus' devoted followers to do that for them - seems to have paid off bigtime, folks.

No doubt this will be marked as flamebait or a troll...

It's a mind reading implant chip for the NSA! (2)

pp (4753) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665151)

Someone I know listened to Linus' talk
in Helsinki a few days ago, and apparently
someone asked him about NSA's implant chip
that can be used to read peoples minds.

Linus replied: "Well, I really can't talk about the things Transmeta does"

from a transmeta employee's desk.... (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665152)

Slashdot already had a preview [slashdot.org] of our product. It was posted to get reaction without there be criticism of our product. Now all the bugs are almost worded out and you can know!

Some speculation about Transmeta's activities (2)

duvin (40343) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665153)

A finnish IT-magazine Tietoviikko [tietoviikko.com] released some comments and speculations [tietoviikko.com] about Transmeta.

Risto Siilasmaa (CEO of DataFellows [datafellows.com] ) commented the issue at the Information Society-seminar [helsinki.fi] (which Linus Torvalds attended) in Helsinki on Wednesday: "My strongest guess is that Transmeta doesn't actually do anything."

There is some speculation that Transmeta's employees just hang around at their office and sell the company for a good price after this fuzz. Finnish philosopher Pekka Himanen mentioned that he has actually been in front of Transmeta's office and stated that the office has darkened windows and no visitors are allowed there.

Linux 2.4 Kernel (1)

Masker (25119) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665154)

So, when is the 2.4 kernel cutover? I'll be curious if it is just before Comdex. Well, I guess it could mean three things:
1) It's just a coincidence
2) Transmeta's product will improve/enhance Linux significantly
3) 2.4 Kernel will improve/enhance Transmeta's product significantly

By the way, I'm impressed with the "This web page is not here yet!" simplicity of their web-page. As someone pointed out earlier, it is reminiscent of Magritte. I've also thought that Microsoft's logo floating in the cloads was reminiscent of Magritte; perhaps someone with artistic talent could paint the picture: All white background, Microsoft logo with the caption: "Ceci n'est pas un monopole". (similar to the original at this link [magritte.com] .)

running in a pool is tiring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665155)

it is too difficult to run in pool, too much resistance. i agree no pool

Re:What I want to know is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665156)

Or more importantly, will I be able to make a bitchin' Beowulf cluster out them.

Re:The Truth (2)

thekla (86369) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665157)

It's funny though. In the age of corporate memos leaking to the media, hype for everything from tacos to movies, Transmeta's (unintentionally?) pulled the greatest publicity stunt of all time: silence.

I think that's exactly what the original poster meant. Transmeta is an upstart company with some new idea in working.. perhaps a good idea. An announcement for their new project would hit the news with as much chance as any other technical announcement of being hot and discussed by many. Instead, they have Linus answering "I can't tell you it's a secret" to every interviewer asking him what he does for a living.. result: everybody knows transmeta before they even come out with a product in their hands. And what's more.. everybody is curious to see what Linus is been up to all this time. What better publicity could they possibly get?

Nick Moraitakis

Re:The Truth (1)

spooky ghost (70606) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665158)

Yes, all will be revealed at comdex Las Vegas, Transmeta, Roswell, JFK, Luthor-King ...

No matter what it looks like, there isn't a .sig here.

Entertaining enough, but does not survive scrutiny (2)

Christopher B. Brown (1267) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665159)

It is an entertaining enough thought that the company is just around to "create hype," IPO to ``big bucks,'' and then have the principals walk away.

This would doubtless do a good job of popping the ``Internet Bubble,'' and could result in an overall market bloodbatch as people re-examined the non-existent value of other enterprises that have seen bloated valuations due to peoples' miscomprehension of the use of "e-Business."

It would, however, be rather less fun for the principal participants, as it would be a downright fraud to issue an IPO to a thus-worthless company and then walk away with a bundle of dollars.

The above interpretation of matters also would not survive the scrutiny required by an IPO. See RHAT 424B1 Filing [sec.gov] and S1. [sec.gov]

I'm still biased towards the material I wrote way back when on Transmeta; [hex.net] it seems nearer accurate than anything publicized before or since...

There is only 1 way to find out. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665160)

If we physically slash-dot their headquarter, then we could find out if they are scamming the 6 billion people on earth. If there is nothing, heck, we saved the gramps who was going to sink their life saving into that company, and we would walk away with enough scotch tape to hold our coke bottle glasses together forever. If there is actual work going on, then we will take it and give it to the public, since nothing secret is good, and we don't need another Philadelphia project. Free the source, this way, it would take off on its own and knock every other Bill gates wannabe and their secretive/manipulative/greedy/capitalist scam that they run.

guess: multiple personality processor (2)

pfaut (18898) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665161)

I think it will be a processor that can change it's personality by reloading microcode. If they do it right, I can imagine a processor that can support multiple personalities simultaneously. Imagine each process on the system running under a different personality by having multiple sets of microcode loaded and switching between them as processes are switched. One process could run linux or windows with a x86 microcode loaded while another could run MacOS with a 68K microcode loaded. Each of these processes would provide a virtual machine to run applications. On-chip cache memory densities have gotten to the point where I think this might be possible. It would be the ultimate in emulation.

Reminds me.... (1)

sqrlbait5 (67782) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665162)

of that Simpsons episode where Lisa found the angel artificat thing and all of Springfield thought the world was coming to an end and everything, but in the end it just turned out to be a hoax to get people hyped for the opening of some big mall....

I woulnd't be surprised if Transmeta makes toilet paper or something like that...Anything with this much hype is bound to suck.

I was there too (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665163)

The lunatic you are talking about is Rauni-Leena Luukkanen-Kilde. She is claiming for example that the US government has some aliens in its posession. Her books sell very well, I think.

I think the seminar was great. It was great to see Linus and the CEO of Datafellows [datafellows.com] throw some opinions on oss vs. proprietary and a few other things. Linus was just repeating his view that over time the basic software will have enough features so that comsumers won't be willing to pay for new versions anymore. Then the competition will catch up and bring down prices evetually to the reproduction level which in the case of software available on the net is about zero. He also said that software companies can continue generating revenue by selling support services, tailoring business and creating new/better software for new needs. So nothing new there but a lot of media was there so good for them. Linus was also repeating his "Linus' law" which in my view is just the Maslow's hierarchy of needs in a new package.He said that the consumers, not technologists, will decide what technology will spread. Perhaps everything will be possible technologically at some point in time, but people will decide what kind of technology is needed.

Siilasmaa was worried about the lower investments in information society in European Community vs. North America. This will lead to many problems in Europe. The investments in IT are rising 14 % pa in NA and 11 % in Europe.

Oxford explains it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665164)

If that embedded dunno-what-ISA chip for WinNT CE enabled super-apps running off of 2 AA batteries proves to be less than a killer CPU for embedded dunno-what-handhelds with bluetooth enabled toaster interface, everybody and their dog will be laughing at Transmeta and Torvalds.

Transmeta, n.: nick name for a startup company that didn't say anything about their product, wasted alot of money, never got into the mainstream of a market and finally went bankrupt because too many of the developers left for a better position and the sponsor finally called it quits because the product didn't hold up to expectations. -> chapter 11

--
Bist du von der Presse gibts eins auf die Fresse!

Re:Digital already did this one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665165)

I have performed this experiment and can verify that it does work!

It looks like lightening is shooting thru the entire pickle!!!

Of course any attempt to duplicate this effort would result in a huge fire, death, disfigurement, and electrocution. All simutaneously.

Remember, it is all fun and games, until someone losses an eye.

One good idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665166)

It's well known that people only have one good idea in them. Linus' was to get people on the Internet to help program his proto-OS. I seriously doubt Transmeta will amount to anything. Linus is the Andreessen of operating systems: just lucky to be in the right place at the right time.

90% right. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665167)

designed for high instruction-level parallelism
3-instruction long VLIW

probably some MMU support
Sure! At least two virtual memory subsystems.

maybe some support for x86 instruction emulation
Sure, FPU, Lock prefix, Debug registers...

a meta-OS that hosts the recompilation stuff
Right again.

Shut the hell up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665168)

Did you not read the previous article on Transmeta? did you not pay any attention to anything over the last three months?????
Transmeta doesn't need a publicity stunt, by actually sitting down and working on thier project they've created all the hype they can handle, if nobody has been promised anything, why the fuck would they release "vaporware"??? they can just not release anything!! nobody will care!!!

Ignorant people suck

What the fuck is wrong with you???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1665169)

Why are so many people obsessed with stealing what ever it is that transmeta is doing and releasing it to the public as freeware???? I mean i totally support open source, but How the fuck do you make an open source CPU????? distribute it in kit form??? what if Transmeta is actually developing electric pickles?? how the fuck.wnibn.. afentt... dhidn... oin *#$%() AAARRRGG!!

IGnorant PEOPLE SUCK!!

Re:Some speculation about Transmeta's activities (1)

spooky ghost (70606) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665170)

Could someone do a translation of the Finnish article please, Babelfish just isn't good enough!

No matter what it looks like, there isn't a .sig here.

Re:guess: multiple personality processor (1)

spooky ghost (70606) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665171)

But would you really opt to run Linux in an x86 emulation mode? Surely running it on the native instruction set/processor, or under an emulation of say Alpha would be much better.

This could also make the idea of vmware obsolete, imagine being able to save/restore the machine state to special areas of disk/memory. You could cycle through operating systems rather than terminals using alt + F key.


No matter what it looks like, there isn't a .sig here.

Re:Coolest company? (1)

Thomas Charron (1485) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665172)

Anything they come out with is already self hyped.. It like someone going to a room of little boys, telling them how COOL the widget in this box is, and setting it down. You didn't have to hype the yoyo in the box to have the whole room eventually want a look.. ;-P

Comdex Registration Priority Code & info (4)

Mazzella! (16436) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665173)

If you want to go to comdex, first you have to register at Comdex's Website [comdex.com] and use the priority code: LINUX (Cool, eh?!) This code will get you into "the exhibits, keynotes, and Millenium Perspectives; the SuperSession; and Sm@rt Solutions." for free... Still $595 for the Linux Business Solutions Expo, but, on Monday, Nov. 15, 6:30pm, Linus Torvalds is giving his keynote...

Warning, if you don't already have a hotel to stay, be forwarned, the prices around town skyrocket when comdex is in town. Get a hotel room off the strip, like at a Station Hotel/Casio [stationcasinos.com] , or a Boyd Hotel/Casino [boydgaming.com] Good L

Cut of pool for TM emplooyees (1)

GoRK (10018) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665174)

Somehow, I don't really think that ANYONE working at Transmeta would leak a secret for the amount of money they are probably going to make. Just a thought.

~GoRK

more guessing (2)

bSMfh (bastard Scout (21306) | more than 14 years ago | (#1665175)

Willy Dog says they will announce a new operating system, and a new chip to run it on. It will be way cool, and manage to swing the binary compatibility thing with existing apps from a bunch of other OS's and processor families.
And instead of a silicon chip, it will use a greenish gel containing DNA-based computing elements. And when it crashes, the gel turns blue -- the blue goo of death (BGOD) ... it could happen!
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