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Halloween Roundup

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the now-that's-scary dept.

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Herewith a selection from the holiday-themed submissions today. severedfinger writes, "CNET reports that this Halloween some people are using the alphabet-search system on the new iPods to communicate with the dead. The writer uses an iPod nano to test the new craze. He plugs it into a loud stereo system to 'increase the scary quotient when a spirit picks a track,' and the editorial staff begin to talk to a spirit called 'Brad.'" And markmcb writes, "If you've never read much about the history of Halloween, Nick Dilmore offers an entertaining and snarky summary of how the holiday came to be. From the article, 'Halloween, that festive time of the year when kids dress up in fantastic costumes, bob for apples, and go trick-or-treating. Well, unless they live in a community that has done away with Halloween because some Christians say it's a holiday for Satan, or some Jews say it's too Christian, or some Wiccans say it makes fun of their religion (which has as much to do with ancient witchcraft as P. Diddy has to do with Bluegrass...).'" Finally, check out MAKE's geeky / tech DIY guide to "amazing costumes, scary tech, pumpkins, and gross food."

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white noise (1)

na641 (964251) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665419)

Sounds like a good plot base for White Noise 2

OMG (1)

ipooptoomuch (808091) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665429)

Can anybody redirect me to a tutorial in which it shows you how to look like a ninja with just a t-shirt.

Re:OMG (1)

eln (21727) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665481)

That's easy.

First, put on a t-shirt.

Second, silently kill your enemies, preferably with a sword.

Third, escape undetected, preferably while doing backflips.

Re:OMG (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666073)

Agreed. Look, you're already a mammal. If you flip out and kill people, you're good to go.

Re:OMG (1)

pseudorand (603231) | more than 7 years ago | (#16668745)

> Look, you're already a mammal... A MAMMAL? Perhaps your forgetting the most famous of Ninjas, none of whom were mammals, Leo, Don, Raph, and Mike.

Re:OMG (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#16668975)

Funny, but I assume you do know what I was referencing [realultimatepower.net] ?

Re:OMG (1)

RmB303 (623042) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667055)

Sorry - wrong. Step 3 is clearly - Profit! As for step 2 . . .

Re:OMG (1)

rts008 (812749) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665843)

You might want to add pants to that list.

Re:OMG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16667405)

Not a ninja, but how about a guy in a Zoidberg costume [makezine.com] ?
Note the description of the photo (Zoidberg: Dog not amused)

Just back from being a Ninja (1)

idonthack (883680) | more than 7 years ago | (#16669353)

That other guy's link seems to be a rip of this: http://www.rit.edu/~djl5698/images/ninjalesson.jpg [rit.edu]

BTW, the candy haul was good this year. Many young children were frightened and other people successfully confused by our ninja antics. We also really freaked out one guy by climbing onto his roof and whispering to him through his skylight.

Heh, this post's capcha is "mischief".

Re:OMG (1)

Rashdot (845549) | more than 7 years ago | (#16670467)

Just a t-shirt?

Make sure it's a very long one, or you won't be able to hide your only weapon.

People will be pointing at you.

Ninja tutorial (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16672369)

Can anybody redirect me to a tutorial in which it shows you how to look like a ninja with just a t-shirt.

Step 1: Don't go to the Halloween party.
Step 2: Get detailed notes from a friend.
Step 3: Amaze people with your "recollection" of the party.
Step 4: When they ask what costume you were wearing, just say: "Oh, I was a ninja. That's why you didn't notice me". Voila! Instant ninja costume!

HTH HAND
--
AC

Re:OMG (1)

Sigg3.net (886486) | more than 7 years ago | (#16681237)

You are ninja, you not look ninja.
You are not ninja, you not look ninja.
You can never see ninja.

*bows*

Homer Simpson's high-tech X10'd Halloween Display (4, Interesting)

Hulkster (722642) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665431)

While these halloween decorations [komar.org] are a bit over the top, /.'ers might find 'em entertaining and worthy of "News for Nerds"

7000 lights along with giant inflatable Pumpkin, Frankenstein, and Homer Simpson - D'OH. View with three webcams, control (yes, turn 'em on/off & inflate/deflate) with X10, send Instant Text Messages via webcam, view Google Map of surfers, and enjoy or cuss at the Franken-Homer cursor & Adams Family Music.

Website suggests sending your trick-or-treats to charity ... so far, it has raised over $14,000 for the University of Maryland Center for Celiac Disease.

Re:Homer Simpson's high-tech X10'd Halloween Displ (1)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665597)

Is it real control? Or is it more "Perl-Fu photoshop the images to make it look like you have Control" Control?

Re:Homer Simpson's high-tech X10'd Halloween Displ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16666359)

All we know for sure is that its more desperate attention-whoring by hulkster/komar.

How about 3000+ hand carved pumpkins (1)

aethera (248722) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667045)

As is Kenova, West Virginia, the armpit of Huntington, which is itself the armpit of West Virginia (and its not even in the coal fields) wasn't scary enough, just add a 125 year old Victorian and 3000 or so carved pumpkins.

Check it out: http://www.wvpics.com/Pumpkin%20House.htm [wvpics.com]

Re:Homer Simpson's high-tech X10'd Halloween Displ (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16667981)

Wow! That is the worst looking, most over-cluttered website I have ever seen. I think you just gave me ADD.

We have one of those on my block (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 7 years ago | (#16668961)

This year, we have someone down the block who has:

  • A lawn full of dummy tombstones.
  • Fog machines.
  • Strobes.
  • UV-illuminated figures.
  • Misc. other lighting.
  • Motors on some of the stuff.
  • Some kind of control system running all this.

The overall effect is of a carnival dark ride. A cheezy one.

Re:We have one of those on my block (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 7 years ago | (#16671229)

Don't take a picture, or upload a video to youtube or anything. Telling us what is on there has the same effect, why waist your time.

P. Diddy has tons to do with Bluegrass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16665433)

They both suck.

Re:P. Diddy has tons to do with Bluegrass (0, Offtopic)

MrZaius (321037) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665783)

O Brother, Where Art Thou:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190590/ [imdb.com]

Shawn Combs:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004835/ [imdb.com]

As you can see, Combs' contributions to O Brother, Where Art Thou are far from insignificant. His role in that film was cited as the inspiration behind the transition from rock to folk for Spinal Tap, now known as The Folksmen [wikipedia.org] .

Evil is limited trick-or-treat times... (1)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665487)

Evil is limited trick-or-treat times. Seriously, when I was a kid, trick-or-treat started at about 3:05 (school's out) and ended around 10:00pm. In that time we'd cover about 12 linear miles of tightly packed houses and amass about two garbage bags full of candy each.

Today, most cities only allow trick-or-treating between 6-8pm....blah.

Optimized candy gathering techniques (1)

spun (1352) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665763)

No doubt, trick or treating should not be limited to 6-8pm, that sucks. But if you are time limited, use a simple technique I pioneered in 3rd grade. Have at least two, if not three or more costumes ready. You don't really need full costumes, just masks. Don costume #1 and hit up all the houses in a reasonable area. Note which houses give out the best/most candy. Don costume #2 and hit up only the best houses. Note which of those are still giving out the best/most candy. Don costume #3. Hit up the best houses again. Using this technique you should be able to maximize your candy gathering potential in any circumstance.

Re:Optimized candy gathering techniques (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666125)

Don't forget stealing candy from little kids.

Re:Optimized candy gathering techniques (1)

spun (1352) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666349)

No, that's too risky, unless you know for sure those little kids don't have gorilla sized older brothers, gun-toting maniac fathers, or a shiv made from a melted scrap of plastic pumpkin. Even a four year old can stick you in the kidneys real good if you aren't careful. Besides, Halloween is about screwing over the adults, not other kids. Siblings' candy is always fair game, however.

Re:Evil is limited trick-or-treat times... (1)

b0s0z0ku (752509) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666625)

Today, most cities only allow trick-or-treating between 6-8pm....blah.


The fact that towns and cities actually make those laws is a problem. This should be between the parents, the kids, and possibly the people whose houses kids go to (i.e., if you don't want to be disturbed, turn off the front porch light). Overregulation at its worst - the people who pass such laws should be hanged, drawn, quartered and burnt like they did to Guy Fawkes (obligatory Halloween grossness ends).


-b.

OT (1)

celardore (844933) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665517)

I like how the big foot is crushing the iPod at the top of the page. It made me laugh.

In the Philippines... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16665519)

In the Philippines, which is probably the most catholic country in the world, Halloween is the day you go to the cemetery and honor your relatives who have passed. It is a national holiday and pretty somber. But Christmas is the holiday where everyone throws costume parties and they all go crazy.

Re:In the Philippines... (1)

stunt_penguin (906223) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665773)

Catholics do that all over the world.... see All Saint's Day [wikipedia.org] and All Souls' Day [wikipedia.org]

Re:In the Philippines... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16666979)

While true, it does not explain the costume parties for xmas.

Re:In the Philippines... (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666175)

But Christmas is the holiday where everyone throws costume parties and they all go crazy.

We call that 'Friday' here in the U.S., but everybody pretends that no one is wearing a costume, and that everything that happens is perfectly normal.

Tess the Vampire! (1)

Sippan (932861) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665545)

Obviously, the most important Halloween event today was my releasing a silly vampire game! It's slightly NetHack-inspired and Yipe!-inspired, except you get to eat placentas and suck blood. Yeah.

Tess the Vampire! [sippan.se] (There is 1 naughty word on that link.)

not directly related to halloween history, but... (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665633)

you have to mention the day of the dead [wikipedia.org] , which is actually tomorrow

while some christians may be uptight about halloween, in deeply catholic mexico and the philippines people actually go camp out in graveyards tomorrow

uptight christians must also recall that christmas trees are coopted from prechristian druidic tree worship, and that the time when christmas itself is celebrated actually predates christ as a roman winter solstice festival, saturnalia, and really has nothing to do when christ was really born at all

so perhaps in a couple of hundred years, halloween will become known strictly as a christian holiday, its real pagan origins shrouded in time, just like christmas is today

so let the coopting begin: someone suggest a new, christian-centered name for halloween, and suggest a christ-centered event the day was "meant" to celebrate

Re:not directly related to halloween history, but. (1)

hobo sapiens (893427) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665811)

Don't forget about Ishtar, er, I mean, Easter! Christians do not try to "christianize" these holidays, but recognize them for what they are.

Re:not directly related to halloween history, but. (1)

Wizard Drongo (712526) | more than 7 years ago | (#16670899)

Oooh, you are so getting bitchlapped by Eostre. She WILL come for you!! :)

Picture's a huge 8ft bunny chasing a guy down the street LOL

Halloween or All hallows eve? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16665997)

You do realise that Halloween is "hallows evening", eg the night before All Hallows Day. Otherwise known as All Saints Day, and a public holiday in many countries. I don't know the full mythology, but supposedly on the night before all saints day, evil gets it's big night out of the year. So halloween itself might be seen to be the opposite of the christian festival, but is pretty closely tied to it. All saints day was I think supposed to be for all those saints who did not have their own special day.

Of course, probably before the year 0 there was some existing festival around this time...

thank you, good point (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666053)

and that prechristian holiday was called samhain [wikipedia.org] (mentioned in the omninerd [omninerd.com] story above)

Re:not directly related to halloween history, but. (4, Insightful)

ClamIAm (926466) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666231)

Or, we could just do what most Christians do (including my father, a Lutheran minister): have fun with it, and don't take it too seriously.

The Pagans Call It "Co-Opting" (1)

RobotRunAmok (595286) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666533)

We call it "Embrace, Extend, Destroy."

Blessed Be, D00d...

Re:not directly related to halloween history, but. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16666659)

"someone suggest a new, christian-centered name for halloween, and suggest a christ-centered event the day was "meant" to celebrate"

That name would be "halloween," as in "all hallow's eve," or "all saints' eve."

Re:not directly related to halloween history, but. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16667103)

In the Eastern Orthodox Christian Church, tomorrow is not "all-hallows day," as this is a later Western Christian (Roman Catholic) feast. There is an all-saints day in the Orthodox Church but it falls at a different time of the year and has no odd rituals associated with it. Christmas is not celebrated on Dec. 25 necesarily because of a pre-christian festival, but because the Church of the Nativity was consecrated on December 25th. You can argue that it was consecrated on this date because of the pagan festival, but I don't think that it is scandelous, or belittling, to try to co-opt a previous practice with a newer practice (from the viewpoint of trying to stamp out the older practice).

In many medieval Christian communities odd superstitions, and associated practices, got carried forward from older practices. Fortunately that doesn't mean that they are Christian practices or represent true christian teaching. Unfortunately in many communities, and even with people outside of those communities, these superstitions have lasted so long that the people do not know where one set of beliefs start and the other ends.

Re:not directly related to halloween history, but. (1)

mblase (200735) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667291)

while some christians may be uptight about halloween

If you meet anyone like that, just tell them "Happy Reformation Day [wikipedia.org] " and suggest they dress up as Martin Luther.

If they're actually Catholic instead of just Fundie Baptist, you'll have the added benefit of outright offending them instead of just making them uptight.

EXTREME PUMPKIN CARVING (1)

mattnyc99 (1008511) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665639)

liquid nitrogen, webcams, hatchets, dissection kits, power tools are used in this high-concept pumpkin carving contest [popularmechanics.com] by the editors of popular mechanics magazine. video, podcast, blog and photos included...

Re:EXTREME PUMPKIN CARVING (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665725)

> liquid nitrogen, webcams, hatchets, dissection kits, power tools are used in this high-concept pumpkin carving contest by the
> editors of popular mechanics magazine. video, podcast, blog and photos included...

They're also the tools I'm going to use on the next fucking kid who comes to my front door demanding money with menaces. I'm with France on this one:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6103436.st m [bbc.co.uk]

Halloween is shit!

Now, where did I put my laxative pills...

About the whole bread with currants thing... (1)

AceCaseOR (594637) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665695)

The bread was, IIRC, baked with honey, making it more of a treat, getting a better reaction from those receiving them than: "Oh, bread... with currants... lovely" (followed by an awkward moment.)

Re:About the whole bread with currants thing... (1)

LordDilly (1021001) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666293)

I actually struggled a little bit to find the joke in soul cakes- I think yours works better and is more informative.

Re:About the whole bread with currants thing... (1)

AceCaseOR (594637) | more than 7 years ago | (#16678703)

Well, you could make a joke along the lines of "I will swallow your soul (cakes)!"

Bah humbug! (0, Troll)

Malc (1751) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665701)

"'Halloween, that festive time of the year when kids dress up in fantastic costumes, bob for apples, and go trick-or-treating. Well, unless they live in a community [...]"

Or perhaps we're just not American and don't want to get involved in yet another commercial event invented and promoted by businesses in the name of profit.

Question: why do American's call Halloween a holiday? In my book a holiday involves time off work.

Anyway, hoping to find a pub tonight that's ignoring this "holiday" and have a good evening my way, not the way defined by big business for you sheep out there...

Re:Bah humbug! (1)

Chosen Reject (842143) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665807)

I bet your a riot at all the parties.

Re:Bah humbug! (1)

BKX (5066) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665977)

Why do non-Americans call a vacation a holiday? In my book a holiday is a celebration (or day a day of morning), whereas a vacation involves time off work.

Re:Bah humbug! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16666117)

> a day of morning

Is that like a day with a "y" in it?

Re:Bah humbug! (1)

BKX (5066) | more than 7 years ago | (#16668049)

Oops, I missed a 'u' (and added an "a day"). My bad. You knew what I meant. At least my teeth are good looking.

Re:Bah humbug! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16670023)

Just general adaptation of the language. Traditionally, a holiday was a holy day, and as such it was a day off. The meaning of the word simply expanded to encompass all days off.

Re:Bah humbug! (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666259)

Tastes great or less filling?

Re:Bah humbug! (1)

alienmole (15522) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666697)

If you think Halloween was "invented ... by businesses", you need to read up on your world history. The Snarky Halloween History linked up top will catch you up.

But you have a point. Remind me not to purchase any more food, either, which after all is invented and promoted by businesses in the name of profit.

Oh wait, no, you don't have a point. Some of the best Halloween costumes and decorations are home-made, and dressing up in costumes is something kids have enormous fun with. I'm not even American, but I spent a year in a small town in the midwest US when I was about five, and trick-or-treating is one of the things that really stands out in my mind from that time.

But for some strange reason, people don't just give away costumes, decorations, or food, so it often makes sense to pay someone for them. What's wrong with that, exactly? Should humans never celebrate something together as a community, or if they do, only wear found scraps while doing it? (That would be scary, I admit.)


Question: why do American's call Halloween a holiday? In my book a holiday involves time off work.

Simple: in the U.S., "holiday" has a meaning closer to its derivation, "holy day". Time off work is called a "vacation".

Re:Bah humbug! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16674135)

Nobody worked on holy days. You've been duped.

Re:Bah humbug! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16667359)

Anyway, hoping to find a pub tonight that's ignoring this "holiday" and have a good evening my way, not the way defined by big business for you sheep out there...

Enjoy bleating over that corporate-owned and promoted alcoholic beverage, you rebel.

Re:Bah humbug! (1)

NiteShaed (315799) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667969)

You forgot to tell us durn kids to get off your lawn.

From worthless to totally stupid! (1)

InsaneProcessor (869563) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665715)

From the "total waste of time" department.

Re:From worthless to totally stupid! (1)

SubOptimalUseCase (927514) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667273)

Yea, ain't it GREAT!!!

I religiously oppose Halloween (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665723)

I personally think the worship of God Mammon is evil.

While the holiday itself is fine, it's become what most holidays turned into: A way to spend money. That's not what it's about. No matter what religion it is supposedly rooted in.

Re:I religiously oppose Halloween (1)

Wuhao (471511) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665805)

I agree 100%. It's absolutely reprehensible that people are spending money on having a good time. IF IT'S NOT MONOTONOUS AND BLAND, IT'S NOT WORTH YOUR HARD-EARNED MONEY, PEOPLE.

Re:I religiously oppose Halloween (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666951)

Personally, I prefer to have fun without spending a fortune for it. Fun is like software, it's best when free.

Seriously now. I hate it when holidays are reduced to spending money. It has ruined so many very meaningful holidays, nowadays it's just a tack in the sales statistics.

Re:I religiously oppose Halloween (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16668051)

Spending a fortune for it? Do you even know what Halloween is?

Re:I religiously oppose Halloween (2, Insightful)

FLEB (312391) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665983)

I would have to say that if you're going to criticize any holiday for consumerism, Halloween is probably the least. Compare it with the gifting orgy of Christmas, the "buy me love" fest of Valentine's day, and the complete card-sale fabrications like Fathers', Mothers', Secretaries', etc., and some candy and a costume is rather tame. What's more, the halloween costuming aspect at least gives people a chance to engage their imagination and creativity. Yeah, there'll always be those that buy a plastic lobster-bib that says "I'm Superman(tm), no, really" on it for godawful-dollars, but I've seen (and been) plenty more that will take the time to make something crafty and original for themselves or their children.

Re:I religiously oppose Halloween (1)

colanut (541823) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666395)

Yeah, its when I used to get most creative. But better, some of our more inspired kooks [nwsource.com] come out. Hooray for the last vestiges of commercial free fun.

Re:I religiously oppose Halloween (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16666047)

Nice troll - you should get a number of replies to this one.

And it's so believable as well, considering the current religious climate in America ;)

(You should have screwed with your grammar and spelling a little though; that's a great way to pull in the people wanting another soft religious moron target).

Re:I religiously oppose Halloween (1)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666241)

I personally think the worship of God Mammon is evil.
That brings up an interesting question. Do you think it'd be unreasonable to celebrate money/capitalism? It is to us now what the church was to us in the middle ages...

Ironic (3, Insightful)

ndansmith (582590) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665793)

I have always found it ironic how evangelical/fundamentalist churches often shun the Christian aspects of the holiday (dead people) to embrace the pagan aspects of the holiday (the harvest). I don't know whether to laugh or . . . well I just laugh.

The scariest thing about halloween (1)

Plutonite (999141) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665981)

is the amount of code I have to write.

All I can say is... (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#16665999)

I called it [slashdot.org] . iPods are possessed by evil spirits.

Diddy (1)

mkiwi (585287) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666333)

or some Wiccans say it makes fun of their religion (which has as much to do with ancient witchcraft as P. Diddy has to do with Bluegrass...).'"


I thought we established that "P." Diddy was no longer to be used :P. "Diddy" wants to be closer to his fans, especially the ones who are bluegrass freaks.

"Leading Ouija boardists" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16666387)

Umm... How does does one "lead" in such a "field of study"?

Holloween Fibs: (0, Offtopic)

polyomninym (648843) | more than 7 years ago | (#16666967)

He Is Awake In my soul A seething hot-bed Of all that will come and will be My Darkest Angel, Come, Sweet Prince of Oblivion. We Are Consumed One and All We beckon Your Call Ashen earth, wake of The Hallowed Harvest Us, O' Lord that we may walk in Your Shadow Lo And Behold My Brethren Perse is the Sunset We are Harbringers of the Void His Mechanism, Stillborn Severance In Vivo Remember, Satanists aren't perfect, but they know someone who IS!

Re:Holloween Fibs: (1)

polyomninym (648843) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667019)

Sorry about the lack of formatting. The above is hard to read. If this doen't look right, sorry. Happy Halloween!! He Is Awake In my soul A seething hot-bed Of all that will come and will be My Darkest Angel, Come, Sweet Prince of Oblivion. We Are Consumed One and All We beckon Your Call Ashen earth, wake of The Hallowed Harvest Us, O' Lord that we may walk in Your Shadow Lo And Behold My Brethren Perse is the Sunset We are Harbringers of the Void His Mechanism, Stillborn Severance In Vivo

umm.. not true? (1)

wateriestfire (962915) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667097)

"Wiccans say it makes fun of their religion (which has as much to do with ancient witchcraft as P. Diddy has to do with Bluegrass...)" As a actual Wiccan I can say it definitely has a lot to do ancient witchcraft, it is just that our religion isn't afraid of change and it helps our religion evolve and change over time and not be stuck in some 5,000+ year old paradigm that is totally unpractical. If you look at most of the religions today few (if any) actually resemble what they did in ancient times. Although Halloween is a fabrication that makes fun of our religion to the point of altering the very name of the holiday and altering everything to the smallest of detail of what the holiday is about to encourage fear and hate. The actual name of the holiday is of course Samhain, or the celebration of the end of summer and the fresh new beginning sometimes celebrated by a bonfire. Although to the contrary Halloween makes all wiccans feel that this time of year is when the horrible stereotypes of us and our religion are exploited to the maximum degree in a negative fashion. The question is though, how on earth could it not offend us? It is exactly the same as having a "lets all hate Jewish people today" and telling people Jews are hooked nosed robbers, fat greedy bankers, and of course for the kiddies, child molesters. Better yet have it on Yom Kippur but change the name to something more Christian of course. I mean everybody besides neonazis would be against this right? Then why have it about our religion? I hope that puts at least some of you into our shoes.

Re:umm.. not true? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16667423)

>As a actual Wiccan I can say it definitely has a lot to do ancient witchcraft,

If you define 'ancient witchcraft' as something invented in 1950s by a British civil servant.

Re:umm.. not true? (1)

wateriestfire (962915) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667889)

a British civil servant who helped form the religion based on what? ancient witchcraft.. Wicca is a sect of witchcraft in part of many neo-pagen religions. It isn't any different from Lutherainism, baptists, southern baptists, catholisism, and the tons of sects of christianity and other religions that people invent every year having quite a lot to do with ancient christianity... One guy putting information into a different light though I guess like many other things, including respect, these principles only apply to other religions.

Re:umm.. not true? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16668139)

One guy putting information into a different light though I guess like many other things, including spelling and grammar, these principles only apply to other religions.

I fixed your post for you. HTH.

Re:umm.. not true? (1)

jmetcalf (946995) | more than 7 years ago | (#16669235)

This is one of the funniest replies that I have read in a long time...

Re:umm.. not true? (3, Funny)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667915)

As a actual Wiccan I can say it definitely has a lot to do ancient witchcraft, it is just that our religion isn't afraid of change and it helps our religion evolve and change over time and not be stuck in some 5,000+ year old paradigm that is totally unpractical.

So, what you're saying is that it actually doesn't have anything to do with ancient withcraft, but claiming an ancient lineage makes it sound cool? Is using paragraph breaks offensive to Wiccans too, or is that just a personal thing?

Re:umm.. not true? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16668575)

maybe if slashdot didn't butcher the formatting I put on it I wouldn't have the paragraph problem but the unaltered version did in fact have paragraph breaks

Re:umm.. not true? (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 7 years ago | (#16668775)

Use "Plain Old Text" as the formatting option, or include

or
  and select "HTML"

Re:umm.. not true? (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 7 years ago | (#16668807)

<p> or <br /> that should be.

Re:umm.. not true? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16668123)

Yeah, Wicca should be treated with all the reverence shown other religions on Slashdot.....
Sooo, which would you prefer, hostility, or mockery?

Re:umm.. not true? (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 7 years ago | (#16670071)

Hrm... Witchcraft isn't a religion either, and only a small part of wicca is involved with witchcraft. If a group of people set up a religion that incorporated the ancient knowledge of the healing properties of herbs, then that wouldn't be an ancient religion either. Christianity has a lot more to do with judaism than Wicca has to any ancient religion, yet few would argue that Christianity was substantially older then 2000 years.

The actual name of the holiday is what people choose to call the holiday. It happens that it falls on the same day as the celtic holiday of Samhain. Because of the proximity, and some PR by the church, some of the traditions were absorbed into Alls Hallow's eve.

Now, where and when does the celebration encourage fear and hate? It's a time of partying and festivals and candy, where children go around knocking on doors and delighting old people in their costumes in exchange for sweets.

Or to put it another way, get over yourself.

as a wicca ... get over yourself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16676369)

Halloween does *not* "make fun of" Samhain. The Samhain practiced today is just an ancient word applied to the festival by modern people. Personally, as a bona-fide initiate of an accepted lineage of British Traditional Wicca (BTW), I can honestly tell you that the existance and/or celebration of Halloween has absolutely *zip* to do with Wicca. Notwithstanding, Wiccan do celebrate the date in question along with some similar meanings (such as honouring the ancestors, etc). However in practice it's only Eclectic Neo-Pagans mis-labelling themselves as "Wiccan" that have any sort of panty bunch over this particular issue. Sorry. None of the BTW that I know of care one way or the other. It's a great time for kids and adults alike.

I went to the Brain Slug planet for Halloween... (1)

spezz (150943) | more than 7 years ago | (#16667947)

...And all I got was this lousy assimilation.

Of my own free will, I decided to build my own brain slug [scarytoyclown.com] for Halloween.

"Halloween Capitol of the World" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16668183)

Anoka, Minnesota [americaslibrary.gov] claims to be the early adopter of contemporary halloween in the US.

Sounds plausible. Since it is my ancestral pioneer home, I should be allowed to say the delinquents probably needed distraction. Anoka seems like Minneapolis/St. Paul's Lovecraftian "old" white trash suburb compared to other "new" white trash suburbs best left nameless. If there is a fossilized decades-old fetus to be found in a jar in a storage locker (just as an example mind you) -- it'll be found in Anoka/Coon Rapids.

OuijaPod would you help me? (1)

crucini (98210) | more than 7 years ago | (#16668737)

The table's rumbling

The click wheel's turning

No I was not pushing that time

It spells M-S-Z-U-N-E

The table's rumbling

The click wheel's turning

No I was not pushing that time

F-U-C-K O double F

(Ouija Board [youtube.com] )

in soviet russia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16668757)

halloween celebrates YOU!

Misleading article (1)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 7 years ago | (#16668853)

From TFA: By around 43 AD Rome had conquered most of the Celtic lands.

No way Jose. The Romans never touched Ireland, and they left Scotland to the Scots (even built Hadrian's Wall to keep them out). That leaves Wales, Cornwall and Brittany under Roman rule, although even there Asterix and his mate stopped them in their tracks!

Correct Article (1)

giafly (926567) | more than 7 years ago | (#16670627)

From TFA: By around 43 AD Rome had conquered most of the Celtic lands.
Way Jose. Here's an interactive map [resourcesforhistory.com] showing how the conquest progressed.

Re:Correct Article (1)

Des Herriott (6508) | more than 7 years ago | (#16671073)

Er, you just proved the OP's point. Scotland and Ireland were never occupied by the Romans.

Re:Correct Article (1)

Kehvarl (812337) | more than 7 years ago | (#16673155)

The OP clearly stated "No way Jose" in response to "From TFA: By around 43 AD Rome had conquered most of the Celtic lands," and then tried to assert that "The Romans never touched Ireland, and they left Scotland to the Scots..." proved his point. T

he response to that included a map showing that the Romans did indeed conquer the majority of the lands controlled by the Celts, with the exception of Scotland and Ireland.

So, yes the OP is correct in the observation about Scotland and Ireland, but incorrect in contradicting TFA's observation of the Romans conquering a majority of the Celtic lands.

my Linux Pun'kin (almost) (1)

BillX (307153) | more than 7 years ago | (#16669645)

I figured the /. crowd would get a kick out of my jack-o-lantern [cexx.org] this year. The realistic lighting is powered by a bundle of six RGB LEDs, each individually controlled by its own tiny PIC10F200 microcontroller - so technically my pumpkin is pulling 6 MIPS right now :-P (The 'flickering' pseudorandom table is generated with the blue channel all 0s, and the green limited to about 3/4 the intensity of the current red value so that it can only produce a flame yellow and not a sickly green...)

Faeries? (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 7 years ago | (#16670013)

Life was good for the Celts, if by "good" you mean living in constant fear of pissed off faeries (it's less gay if you spell "faeries' with the "ae" than "ie") and evil spirits.

Thank you.

For anybody who asks: I celebrated Halloween by fucking a handsome Russian. He was an excellent lover!

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