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Microsoft To Announce Linux Partnership

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the shout-at-the-devil dept.

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Carl Bialik from WSJ writes "Microsoft is entering into an unusual partnership with Novell that gives a boost to Linux, people familiar with the companies tell WSJ.com. From the article: 'Under the pact, which isn't final, Microsoft will offer sales support of Suse Linux, a version of the operating system sold by Novell. The two companies have also agreed to develop technologies to make it easier for users to run both Suse Linux and Microsoft's Windows on their computers. The two companies are expected to announce details of their plan today at a press conference in San Francisco. In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux, the people said. Businesses that use Linux have long worried that Microsoft would one day file patent infringement suits against sellers of the rival software.'"

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534 comments

Hell called. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694041)

They want their ice back.

Re:Hell called. (5, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694239)

And in other news...
  • Duke Nukem Forever was released today.
  • Hell froze over.
  • SCO v. IBM trial over.
  • Apple uses Intel Processors.
oh wait, that last one is true...

Re:Hell called. (3, Funny)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694483)

And don't forget that Debian Sarge was released.

Re:Hell called. (1)

fistfullast33l (819270) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694489)

And in the wayback machine, Sun Microsystems and Microsoft formed a partnership over Sun's Java development platform. Microsoft was quoted as saying they were looking forward to a "fruitful relationship in which we could include constructive input to the Java community."

Re:Hell called. (4, Funny)

rocjoe71 (545053) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694527)

...And in yet more news:

Four horsemen arrived in Seattle today. When approached one horseman was quoted:

Sorry guys, we could have arrived sooner to put a stop to this but we couldn't find a flight in time that would take the horses-- not even Southwestern. Besides, Horseman Tim is afraid of snakes.

So, to wrap it up:

  • Dogs and cats are sleeping together
  • Pat Robertson simultaneously converts to Judaism and Islam.
  • Osama gets laid, changes his mind about destroying world.
  • Scientists discover smoking is good for you.
  • Microsoft is supporting Suse Linux.

Typicial. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694043)

Embrace, extend, extinguish...

A reminder to all the people at Novell (1)

JamesP (688957) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694089)

Drugs are bad mmmkay...

"But I was just playing chess with Mike Tyson!!!"

Re:Typicial. (1)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694153)

From an MS perspective it's just "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer".

From Novell's perspective it's "Hey! Where did all this money come from?"

Re:Typicial. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694321)

From Novell's perspective it's "Hey! Where did all this money come from?"


The answer, as always, is "From your former customers."

As a Dalek, (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694223)

I'd just like to say THAT IT IS NOT EX-TING-UISH. IT IS EX-TER-MI-NATE!

Don't use so many caps. IT IS LIKE YEL-LING!

Hey Novell! (4, Funny)

snuf23 (182335) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694045)

Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?

Re:Hey Novell! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694111)

Yep (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/nov 06/11-02NewsConferenceMA.mspx)
Denis the SQL Menace http://sqlservercode.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]

Re:Hey Novell! (2, Funny)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694127)

Why, yes, to the tune of Zappa's "Keep it greasy (so it'll go down easy)"

Re:Hey Novell! (1)

gt_mattex (1016103) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694267)

Wait, I know this one.

Never rub another man's rhubarb?

wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694051)

Didn't see that one comming.

Remember that scene from Scanners? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694053)

*HEAD EXPLODES*

"And in other news, Hell has frozen over and pigs fly!"

It's a trap! (1)

draos (672972) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694057)

It's a trap!

Re:It's a trap! (1)

t0rkm3 (666910) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694331)

Get an AXE!

Re:It's a trap! (2, Insightful)

ebob9 (726509) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694481)

--Conspiracy-Tinfoil hat required content--

Yknow, Microsoft didn't get any millage out of SCO. So they thought, "Hey, lets butter up Novell. Partner with them and help them get some market share."

In 12 months, when Novell hasn't gotten much market traction, Microsoft may suggest "It's because of all the Linux companies competing against *your* UNIX business.. Don't you own the rights to that?"

*lawsuits ensue*

--Safe to remove Conspiracy-Tinfoil hat--
(or is it??)

-ebob9

HAHAFHAHAP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694059)

hahaMyPosthahaisFirst.

Re:HAHAFHAHAP (1)

Morphine007 (207082) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694147)

hahaYouhahaFail.

wtf? (1)

Morphine007 (207082) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694065)

Did I not RTFA correctly, or is Satan breaking out his ice-skates??

Does this mean that SUSE is now as good as dead, or poised to take over?

Re:wtf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694309)

Well, I guess that depends on how the resulting software looks. IANAL but it seems like, with this agreement only being between Novell and Microsoft, that any GPLed code resulting from this agreement would not be protected in any other distro. This would make Suse the de-facto "official" Windows-integration distro, so it would have that as an edge. On the other hand... Microsoft might have qualms about software that is compatible with their OS being used in a truly open-source way, and we've seen them shut out competitors in the past. If they have anything to say about this, they'll be sure that resulting programs are either closed-source, or so locked-down, encumbered, and dangerous for the greater community (beyond Novell) that it is not worth it to develop in a community-driven way.

Then again, it would be a nice surprise to be wrong about this.

please type the word in this image: boasting. How appropriate.

Re:wtf? (1)

computersareevil (244846) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694507)

If they have anything to say about this, they'll be sure that resulting programs are either closed-source, or so locked-down, encumbered, and dangerous for the greater community (beyond Novell) that it is not worth it to develop in a community-driven way.

So maybe now some people can see the benefit of the patent-protection clause in GPL V3 draft?

Maybe... (1)

AdamKG (1004604) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694377)

SuSE:Microsoft::Microsoft:IBM?

WOW! (1)

certain death (947081) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694067)

Let's see...it is not April 1st... WTF?!?

Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694075)

I er..yeah. I think I'll go lie down.

Temperatures drop in Hell (1)

joeyspqr (629639) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694087)

Cats and dogs living together!!
Pool Halls in River City!!
Duke Nukem released!!

the end of the world!!

Re:Temperatures drop in Hell (1)

Doctor Memory (6336) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694159)

Heh, that was my first thought: "Hey, where are my skis? There's sure to be some champagne powder at Satan's place tonight!"

Re:Temperatures drop in Hell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694389)

And all over Slashdot monkeys are flying out of people's butts.

*quiver* (1)

bflong (107195) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694097)

Um... er... but... wtf... *Head Explodes*

Whats in it for Microsoft? (5, Interesting)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694103)

I dont understand why Microsoft has been so friendly to OSS sofwtare on windows, but this is well strange.

Microsoft has been nicer since Bill Gates left the CEO position to Steve Balmer but Microsoft must have an incentive. Why would Microsoft help a competitor? Especially one that is very entrenched in the server market which MS wished it owned like the desktop market.

I wonder if there are clauses in that agreement for MS to pull a SCO if they feel to threatened? This is the same microsoft that screwed IBM twice with DOS and OS/2 and Netscape so I am skeptical.

Re:Whats in it for Microsoft? (2, Interesting)

Vlad_the_Inhaler (32958) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694255)

The most obvious explanation I can think of is that they have decided Linux is not going to displace Windows on the desktop, and that the technologies in question are useful on the desktop rather than on servers. If SuSE (and others) take up Microsoft solutions on the desktop, they will not be developing parallel solutions.

Very simply... (2, Insightful)

turgid (580780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694275)

I dont understand why Microsoft has been so friendly to OSS sofwtare on windows, but this is well strange.

By getting their technology ("Intellectual Property", patents etc.) into SuSE Linux, the automatically get Novell and all of its SuSE customers hooked on MS IP. Then, other users will succumb, because they will see the features in SuSE and either migrate or demand it in their own distros.

Then, Microsoft goes back on the deal and wipes out corporate Linux, and probably forces all of those users on to Windows by some upgrade plan that's impossible to refuse.

Anyone remember OS/2? It was going to run DOS, Windows and OS/2 programs.

Then NT came along...

Plan B is if Windows dies, Microsoft has a foot in the door of corporate Linux.

Re:Whats in it for Microsoft? (1)

ebob9 (726509) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694291)

Well, in the past, Microsoft has had huge success with it's OS collaboration projects.. OS/2 anyone?

-ebob9

Re:Whats in it for Microsoft? (2, Insightful)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694305)

Why would Microsoft help a competitor?


Maybe you could ask Steve Jobs. I think he might know.

Maybe just a case of "why not" (1)

phorm (591458) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694317)

Unlike many competing products, the linux market doesn't require you to buy out rights to use the software. MS can join in the linux market, rather than fighting it tooth-and-nail, and probably manage to make a profit from it alongside their windows products. If their offering are good enough, competing linux products might also dropped off, which puts the ball in MS's side of the court.

Re:Whats in it for Microsoft? (1)

jpvlsmv (583001) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694327)

From the summary...
In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux,

Microsoft gets out of this deal a public statement that there "may be patented technology" in Linux.

--Joe

Re:Whats in it for Microsoft? (2, Insightful)

VEGETA_GT (255721) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694333)

I think it has to do with the fact hey are going to develop software to run both suse and windows at the same time. think about it, getting suse users to run windows on thre sytem while not having to lose suse, its another license and more cash for M$. Also they could make the software buggy specifically towards suse and O darn, its easer to deal with windows in this setup, then guess what people well use.

We do Linux too! (2, Insightful)

jhines (82154) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694415)

It sounds like some ammo for the sales force, when the client mentions Linux, and keeps MS in the bidding.

Re:Whats in it for Microsoft? (5, Insightful)

yurik (160101) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694457)

I suspect Microsoft needs a common programming platform, and its Mono they are after.

The adaption of .NET in the enterprise was very slow, mostly because most backends have been exclusively Unix/Linux based. Having two infrastructures at the same time is fairly expensive to maintain - an enterprise basically needs two groups of admins.

Mono solves the problem of running .net on Unix, but its legal status makes many people worried, thus Java is much heavier present in the enterprise, thus eventually it will get to the point of having as nice UI as WinForms from both visual and developer's perspective. The moment it happens, being a cross-platform Java will run on both Unix & Windows - not good for MS.

This partnership sends a clear message to all enterprise architects: Mono is OK, we won't sue you. The extent of this is unclear... Will wait and see :)

Re:Whats in it for Microsoft? (2, Interesting)

head_dunce (828262) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694477)

Microsoft is seeing open source applications, like SugarCRM, come into the business market and fast. These open source applications have to run well on Microsoft operating systems, but right now they run better on Linux. For example, that's why they're partnering up to make PHP run better on M$ products. [yahoo.com] I think they tried to do this on their own with Longhorn, and although it may come out at the end of the month, I doubt it's what they originally had planned. With Novell losing their top 3 kernal programmers to Oracle in the last few months here, this may be exactly what Novell needed to keep SuSE alive.

Re:Whats in it for Microsoft? (1)

tiocsti (160794) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694515)

Maybe this is the only way they could ship vista on time?

Those BSD guys are sooo jealous... (1)

warpSpeed (67927) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694123)

Now BSD will die for sure....

Re:Those BSD guys are sooo jealous... (1)

clesters (793568) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694563)

Well maybe not where you work :)

I don't think I overslept.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694129)

It isn't april 1st yet is it??

MS is considering pulling out of china.. and now they're thinking of supporting SUSE??!??!?

What's next..

a service pack for XP and Vista that removes DRM and a law suit against the MPAA/RIAA for monopolistic practices??

Just Call It Microsoft SuSe WinLinux Already! (3, Interesting)

Cruxus (657818) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694131)

How will the open-source community view SuSe Linux now? I can only imagine the brand will soon have the same stigma as Windows does. Will there be exaggerated anecdotes about how frequently SuSe "WinLinux" crashes compared to "real" distros?

Re:Just Call It Microsoft SuSe WinLinux Already! (5, Funny)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694251)

I doubt it. My Suse system is rock solid and I'm doing an update via Yast right now. Wait, what the hell is KWGA/LGA and why is it a kernel patch?

Re:Just Call It Microsoft SuSe WinLinux Already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694423)

... and a fat white guy who is threatened by change.
And why do all those people have their hands in his pocket?

If you can't. .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694137)

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

It's the end (1)

mkswap-notwar (764715) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694139)

It's the end of the world as we know it!!!

Re:It's the end (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694339)

And I feel fine.

Opiate Addiction (1)

turgid (580780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694143)

As Scott G. McNealy said to Tony Blair and Gordon Brown back in 2001, "The first hit of heroin's always free."

U are kidding me (1)

VEGETA_GT (255721) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694185)

For a second there I thought it said M$ was going to be working together with suse linux. What it dose, how come it suddenly feels cold here.

Microsoft Linux? (1)

Digital Pizza (855175) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694199)

Could this be the first step on the path to Microsoft Linux? Maybe they plan to embrace-and-extend their competition (Redhat) away, at least in the server room.

Cooperation (1)

StormReaver (59959) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694225)

On the surface, this seems like a good thing. So was is my skin crawling?

IE for Mac (2, Funny)

porkThreeWays (895269) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694227)

and I'm sure it'll have all the quality of IE for mac...

One thing is certain (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694231)

This is an omen. Something big is going down soon. I doubt it will be pretty.

flush (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694337)

sure thing, *that* wasn't pretty

m10

Assimilation. (1)

daemon_mf (786046) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694233)

Something about relative proximity to friends and enemies comes to mind...

Its A Trap! (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694237)

After all the news lately, Admiral Akbar isn't even surprised anymore.

In other news... (1)

WhoWhereWhat (1021851) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694247)

Microsoft announced their plan to freeze hell..

I felt a sudden disturbance (1)

AdamKG (1004604) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694249)

As if millions of Admiral Ackbars cried out in unison, "It's a trap!" and were suddenly silenced by a flying blue chair of death.

Seriously, this is too weird for words.

What's the catch? (1)

kbob88 (951258) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694257)

There's got to be some sneaky, devious, underhanded motive behind this for Microsoft...

Maybe they'll do such a bad job supporting it that Suse Linux will get a bad rep? Or they want to stick to Oracle and their Red Hat support deal?

The best idea I can come up with is that they can show this off to the EC's antitrust regulators as non-monopoly behavior.

Of course, stranger things have happened: the Red Sox did win the World Series a few years ago..

Wait For It! (2)

mpapet (761907) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694259)

1. It's a trap!
2. Embrace (today) Extend (tomorrow) and Extinguish (next year)
3. There's going to be a whole lot more newsgroup traffic from MS support phone jockies from whatever developing country they live in this year.
4. MS says "All your corporate monies belong to us!".
5. Redhat should be renamed DeadHat.

Good thing I'm on Debian Etch. Which has been running beautifully despite the "testing" moniker.

Final proof... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694263)

...that Vista will never come out.
They're getting ready for their transition to Linux .

Hmmm... (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694265)

Microsoft? Linux? Pact? Did someone leave out the word Devil? And is it really MicroFAUST? ;P

Smoething nagging my brain (1)

Bucc5062 (856482) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694273)

I read that and I hear, very faint, "resistance is futile, you will be assimulated." Is this not the pattern; "Hey, let's be buddies", soon followed by "How's that knife I stuck in your back feeling?".

I have been a lifelong user and developer on MS, but it is not to say I would trust them ever in business. In the last year I've started to gain ground on understanding Linux and though I have my gripes, I do find a lot of positives. MS does not innovate their way to success, they acquire it or bury it. So, perhaps a side complement to Linux, but I'd just as soon see them run away, run away!

Ulterior Motives (1)

LordDracula (153751) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694277)

Given Microsoft's history, I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking there has got to be some ulterior motive here. From the article:

Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux

What's concerning me here is the "into Suse Linux" phrase. Is it possible that MS might go after other Linux vendors, saying, "hey, we have an agreement with Novell, but not you."? This seems less pure paranoia given this line in the article:

By forging a peace pact with one seller of Linux, Microsoft could raise pressure on Red Hat Inc., the leading provider of Linux, and a Novell rival.

Either that, or Duke Nukem Forever is just around the corner...

pigs are flying (1)

beui (18173) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694283)

I thought it was minnesota snow, but no; those are pigs flying outside.

Well, this is a... (1)

thewiz (24994) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694287)

shove away from SuSE. Looks like it's time to complete my switch to Ubuntu.

It makes my head hurt to think of the number of ways Microsoft can screw over the Linux community by including code in a distro and later claiming it's proprietary.

Microsoft shenanigans (1)

Bandraginus (901166) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694311)

"The two companies have also agreed to develop technologies to make it easier for users to run both Suse Linux and Microsoft's Windows on their computers."

Develop technologies? The technologies are already there! You mean that Microsoft is going to remove the boot loader software it's put in Vista to prevent just a thing?

Ahh. I see. Their game plan is to push it too far and then look like a hero when they bring things half-way back.

Reliable sources? (1)

swab79 (842256) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694341)

In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux, the people said.

I don't know about you, but I always believe the people...

Oh get yourself gone, Microcrap (1)

gd23ka (324741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694367)

Really. Do we need them involved here who with their upcoming Vista soft crap want
to tax us silly and tell us what we can or cant do with it?

- whether they can delete anything they want on our boxes ("Defender")
- how many times you can move the license from one box to another
- how much you can modify your box before you need a new license
- whether they can track each and every of our moves
- whether we can benchmark their Vista against our operating systems
- make you unlock "features" for $$$ like the ability to burn dvds etc. ... ...

and _THAT_ list goes on and on.

Patents? (1)

phorm (591458) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694381)

In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux

Against SUSE or against linux/competitors in general? Perhaps they'll allow SUSE use of patented technology but still bar it from the rest of the linux community.

Am I alone in thinking.. (1)

bitserf (756357) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694383)

..the fuck?

It's not just *any* Linux distro (1)

blindd0t (855876) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694391)

It's one M$ is hoping to control/sway considerably:

In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux, the people said. Businesses that use Linux have long worried that Microsoft would one day file patent infringement suits against sellers of the rival software.

Microsoft support... (1)

kittenthief (628725) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694395)

I assume Microsft's sales support of Suse will including charging like $895.00 for a copy of Suse..and including a "FREE" copy of SBS 2003 ....

Linux watch out! (1)

fernandoh26 (963204) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694399)

Careful Linux! MS may (and by may I mean will) pull some funny business (and by funny business I mean backstabbing)

"Et tu, Microsoft?"

perhaps... (1)

Lord_Slepnir (585350) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694401)

Perhaps they're gearing up for Microsoft Linux.

April 1st Not Here Yet (1)

jo42 (227475) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694405)

Dear Microsoft,

Yesterday was November 1st. April 1st is five months from now.

Regards,

The Crew @ /.

I speculate that MS's intent is to placate ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694413)

regulators all over the world.

"See, we're playing along nicely with our competitors ..."

They have had trouble over not opening up Vista enough (antivirus, media players, active directory, SMB), so I guess Novell would be the ideal candidate with which to demonstrate that they are willing to allow interoperability.

This should help with antitrust issues in places like the EU, Korea, Japan, etc.

Mono (1)

Esekla (453798) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694417)

Since Novell are the developers of Mono, this has potential to be more far reaching than it currently sounds. With all the anti-trust troubles, maybe M$ is realizing that that OS brand recognition is non-profitable, whereas MS Office for Linux (via Mono) is an easy entry into emerging markets.

Strange Timing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694425)

Is MS trying to make nice now that Novell has SCO against the ropes? Are they hoping to make friends with Novell to avoid being implicated in more monopolistic behavior?

Perhaps this is a boon for Linux. If Microsoft tries to appease Novell and IBM so they won't go for MS's jugular by leaving GNU-FOSS-Linux alone, maybe Linux can grow to a point where it can't ever be killed and Microsoft will be forced to share the desktop (which was all that was ever wanted).

MS sales support for Suse Linux (2, Funny)

Dystopian Rebel (714995) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694445)

MS Salesman: Hello, you left a voice message for us. You said you are looking for Susie. There's no Susie here. My name's Steve. How may I help you?

Customer: Oh, hi Steve. Not "Susie", "Suse".

MS Salesman: No one here by that name. But how may I help you?

Customer: Well, we need highly scalable, robust Web services with low cost-per-seat and low TCO running on older hardware with industry-leading uptime.

MS Saleman: Gotcha! I'll ship you some Windows Vista licences right away. Don't worry, there's a GUI for all that Interweb stuff.

We need clarity... (1)

Eric Damron (553630) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694455)

"In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux"

But that's not the same as saying that they won't assert rights over patents over software technology that was originally incorporated into Suse Linux but later ported to other distributions. It would be nice if they made it clear.

Never Forget... (1)

Zombie Ryushu (803103) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694479)

Microsoft may not be the biggest enemy Linux has, but they are an enemy. They still want to destroy us, they won't stop until we are all destroyed. They will attempt to subvert us. Linux Users are starting to have troubles with "taking the easy way out." in some cases. They probably want to slow the march of Linux advancement. Giving us something sweet and sugary, something we don't have we really want, like a MS SQL Server Client, or, something related to AD, or a better MAPI Exchange server.

Like idiots, we will take it, because like the binary Nvidia driver it will be "free as in beer." this will slow our research into our own F/OSS replacements. It may not kill us, just let us be slowed to the point of getting MS far enough ahead to make us unable to compete.

You've made a mistake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694491)

Halloween != April Fools Day

Patent Issues? (1)

miyako (632510) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694497)

From the article...
In addition, Microsoft won't assert rights over patents over software technology that may be incorporated into Suse Linux, the people said. Businesses that use Linux have long worried that Microsoft would one day file patent infringement suits against sellers of the rival software.
It worries me that this might end up causing problems where MS agrees not to sue Novell for something the put in suse, so novell develops something and releases it under the GPL, then other distributions get sued for including it.
I would love to think that Microsoft really is going to play nice with Linux, but I have the feeling that this is some sort of ploy that is going to end up hurting the entire Linux community, and quite possibly putting Novell out of business.

I always figured ... (1)

monopole (44023) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694505)

That M$ would go with the inventors, SCO!

Grow Up (1)

M4N14C (873188) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694513)

Devil, Ice skates, Blue SuSe Lizzard of death.

Microsoft is a company with the resources to make money selling linux support and contribute fixes back to the community.

The ice cube in hell was funny the first 38 times it was posted.

Grow Up.

Is this to spite Oracle? (1)

Luke Dawson (956412) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694517)

As far as I am aware, Oracle and MS aren't exactly great friends...is it me, or is it a little too convenient that this is announced just days after Oracle's latest foray into the Linux world? Does this mean we could start seeing SQL Server for Linux soon? God forbid!

Let me be the first to say... (1)

smilingman (942304) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694521)

HUH?

SuSe, the new SCO (1)

wulfbyte (722147) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694531)

as SCO didn't work out too well as a M$ puppet, they are looking for a new approach.

"Give Linux a Boost?" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16694535)

Does Linux need a boost? Maybe the other way around.

Oracle (1)

Tony (765) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694541)

I do wonder if this is related to Oracle's recent announcement in any way?

Or I wonder if they have decided to use a Linux kernel for their next iteration of MS-Windows the same way Apple used a *BSD kernel in OSX?

Or I wonder if someone wanted some ad impressions, and so cooked up this baloney story to get some page hits?

Or I wonder if there just isn't enough evidence to say one way or the other if this deal is in any way real?

(OT) Wow... (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694545)

As I post this... 86 comments were before me. NONE rated above 2 yet. None were sticking out as a post.. i had to individually click every post to read them.

It's like /. was spotlighted for a moment or something with this news.

I saw this coming (1)

Imexius (967514) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694547)

"If we ever woke up and said, 'Wow, Novell is the Microsoft of Linux', the Linux movement would be over." Greg Mancusi-Ungaro

It is, of course, a trap (1)

mlwmohawk (801821) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694561)

Let's face it, the probability of "partnering" with Microsoft and coming out ahead is pretty slim.

What we need to think about is what Microsoft can "do" to Linux.

My big concern is MS Office on Linux, specifically, only available for one distro.

Microsoft releases a MSOffice for linux, but supports *only* Linux distributions that incorporate Microsoft DRM and invasive software. Projects like [k]ubuntu will be left in the dust by a distro like suse with MSOffice for Linux. Then, ISVs will start supporting only suse and completely ignore other distros. Worse yet, start relying on MSOffice shared libraries making Linux, ignoring the GPL/LGPL regulars already inplace, in the end, no better (or freer) than Windows.

scary (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 7 years ago | (#16694565)

The blurb implies that Microsoft will enforce their patents against distributions other than SuSE.

Yipe!

The IBM patent portfolio may be the only thing holding Microsoft back from the destruction of the Linux OS.
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