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Frist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16700569)

Hot frist pissh!

Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

nickrooster (796216) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700573)

The heatsink is doing its job.

Tom's Hardware did this with the first generation Athlon XPs (although they made a little aluminum foil tray to keep the egg out of the fins - yuck!

Newsflash - the heatsink is over 100 degrees Farenheit. Any modern computer heatsink is that hot as well - my CPU sits around 30 degrees Celsius - about 90 some degrees Farenheit. Not that big a deal.

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

threephaseboy (215589) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700585)

It's boiling water. That's over 200 degrees Fahrenheit.

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

advocate_one (662832) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700775)

and because of the way that heatsinks work, the CPU side is even hotter...

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (3, Informative)

tibike77 (611880) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700793)

Egg white coagulates between 144 degrees F and 149 degrees F, and the yolk between 149 degrees F and 158 degrees F.
That's around 65 and 71 Celsius.

Having a PC heatsink at over 75 Celsius ain't that much of a big deal, why would an X-Box be any different ?
If the temperature of an object you come into contact with is 149 degrees Fahrenheit, it would take about 2 seconds to cause a third degree burn... that's about as much as you'd need to start "cooking" the eggs too.

So... scary-looking, yet absolutely normal.

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

Lonewolf666 (259450) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701041)

It may be a problem for the processor. If the heatsink is at 75 Celsius, the CPU might be at 90-100 Celsius which is above the maximum specified case temperature for some X86 models (don't know about the XBOX processor). Besides, semiconductors age faster at high temperatures, so I'd really prefer to have my CPU running at a nice moderate 60 Celsius or less.

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

Broken scope (973885) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701583)

It uses specialized/modified IBM powerPc processors.

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701127)

What processor can sit happy at 75 Celsius? My Athlon 64 3400+ never goes above 45 degrees Celsius, and if it hit 70 degrees Celsius, the safety cuts in and shuts the computer down.

So, I'll ask again: What processor used in modern day PCs runs happily at 75 degrees Celsius?

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701133)

The Core series of chips runs extremely happily at over 70C, I routinely have my Macbook maxed out at between 70C and 80C when encoding video.

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

cortana (588495) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701489)

My Athlon XP 2500+ idles happily at 65 degrees, and goes up to 75 under load. At first I was mildly concerned, but after four years, I'm no longer so worried. :)

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

KlaymenDK (713149) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701927)

Closing my eye for the moment to the word 'modern' in your post, I'll respond that my 1.4GHz AMD Athlon sits *idle* at 72*C. That series has been known --and designed-- to routinely rise to around 110*C.

Not that I think that's great in any way ... it was cooking the rest of my hw.

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701931)

The safety is not killing it at the point at which it can no longer run, the safety is killing it at the point at which the chip begins to age abnormally fast. You can still run it hotter, you're just decreasing its life expectancy (as should be expected of any digital or mechanical device being pushed to performance limits, you're trading off reliability for power).

As an example, the ATI software on my Radeon, by default, kept the fans on the card spinning at no more than 29% of capacity and would throttle performance over 52C. After I installed ATITool and tweaked the fan behavior, and disabled the software safety switch in Catalyst, the card began to run regularly at 75C - 80C with no artifacts while playing games. The tradeoff here is that my card, while delivering better performance, is likely to die on me sooner than it would if I'd have just kept the lower performance and left the default settings alone (although ATI's fan settings from the factory are stupid as hell - why on earth would they make a gaming-oriented card never spin the fans near full capacity?).

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

Babbster (107076) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700799)

Yes! You too can make Slashdot posts out of simple math [321know.com] ! Just to show how much confidence I have in my system, for a limited time I will tell you that 0.6 miles equals 1 (yes, ONE!) kilometer!

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

tibike77 (611880) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700815)

By the way, the article body is misleading... that water wasn't BOILING, it was EVAPORATING.
Quite fast, agreed, but I doubt he could make water actually boil in a small tin can placed on the heatsink.
And by how "fast" he got his hands out of the way from the heatsink before the egg experiment, if that sink would have been at over 100 celsius, he would have at least second degree burns on his fingers (he didn't even seem to get first degree burns by the way).

All in all, I'd have to say, that heatsink musthave been somewhere in the vicinity of 80-85 degrees Celsius (~180 F)... and the chip underneath probably at around 90-95 Celsius.
Heck, that's what, proper cofee-serving temperature ? Heh.

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

LoadWB (592248) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701639)

Only if you ask McDonald's :) 180F water is extremely hot and carries much more energy than water at 145F, therefore taking much longer to cool down, passing much more heat to the cooling medium (ie your leg, etc.)

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

tibike77 (611880) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701919)

Well, off-topic enough already... but... I don't think that's "as MacDonalds say", it's the PROPER way.

http://www.boyds.com/coffee/brewingguide.html [boyds.com]

Serving

Serve coffee as soon after brewing as possible. Coffee loses flavor and aroma quickly. If brewed coffee must be "held" on a direct heat source, it should be held at 185F, and for no longer than 20 minutes. Higher temperatures cause coffee to break down quickly, producing a bitter and flat taste. Lower temperatures make the brew too cold and consumers will be dissatisfied. Reheating brewed coffee breaks down the components of the coffee and results in an undesirable flavor.

Thermal servers are the best way to hold brewed coffee at the proper serving temperature because they are insulated, airtight, and no direct heat is applied to the coffee. Sealed containers prevent evaporation and retain aromatic compounds. The best insulated and sealed servers, if preheated with hot water, may hold coffee at acceptable serving temperatures for several hours.

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

LoadWB (592248) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702195)

OT Agreed, but since we're heading down this track.

In the case of fast food coffee, there has to be a balance struck with safety. Water at 180F is not safe. And I would hardly compare McDonald's coffee to Boyds :)

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

espressojim (224775) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702339)

As a coffee fanatic, I'd mod you up if I had the points (despite your being almost off topic.)

I've been able to move my relatives to thermal servers when they serve coffee over longer periods of time, and it's helped them get their coffee up to palatable.

OTOH, I generally drink espresso from a Livia 90 automatic (not super automatic, but not a level system.) The beans are ground 30 seconds before extraction, and the espresso is consumed 3-5 minutes from extraction time. That way, it's never cold...but who could resist fresh espresso anyway?

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

oskard (715652) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700609)

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

ztransform (929641) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700631)

I saw the video, and boy it looks messy!! Now if Microsoft makes the case easy-to-open and allows one to easily unplug the heatsink then the big question is.. is the heatsink dishwasher safe??

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

ThosLives (686517) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701323)

Temperature doesn't mean anything - it's heat dissipation that matters. Here's more basic math for ya:

I have 1 gram of water at 100 degC and that is my heat sink. Let's say I then have 10 grams of egg. Let's say the heat capacity of egg is the same as water. Let's say the egg is current room temperature of 20 degC. If no energy is added to the (water)heat sink, the equilibrium temperature between the egg and the water will only be about 27 degC, which is nowhere near enough to cook egg. Now, let's assume that the heat sink is currently dissipating 100W. If we just put water on that, that means we'd heat 1 gram of water (if it was absorbing all the energy) at around 24 degC/sec (about 3 seconds to reach boiling temperature) - so it appears that the heat sink has the capability to dish out quite a bit more than 100W (I don't know if this is a combination of the thermal dissipation from the circuit or a release of the energy that is stored in the heatsink; it's probably a combination of both).

That's the scary thing - not that it's hot, but that it *stays* hot!

Re:Heatsink is supposed to be that hot... (1)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702197)

"Temperature doesn't mean anything - it's heat dissipation that matters. Here's more basic math for ya:"

Pass the doobie, man!

"I have 1 gram of water at 100 degC and that is my heat sink. Let's say I then have 10 grams of egg."

How, praytell, are you going to submerge (let alone cook) a 10 g egg in 1 g of water? Realisticly, the egg will be 1 hg and the water will be around 3 hg.

"so it appears that the heat sink has the capability to dish out quite a bit more than 100W (I don't know if this is a combination of the thermal dissipation from the circuit or a release of the energy that is stored in the heatsink; it's probably a combination of both)."

What you're missing is that the (hypothetical) 100 W output is when the heat sink is submerged in air.

The heat sink is designed to dissipate heat in air, a fluid that is remarkably good at thermal insulation (fiberglass insulation works by trapping air pockets within it). This is why heat sinks look the way they do, to maximize the surface area to squeeze every last bit of heat conductivity out of the surrounding air. Forced airflow helps as well, because stagnant hot air absorbs less heat than if it is constantly replaced with cooler air.

Comparing the thermal conductivity of air to water is like comparing the electrical conductivity of air to copper. The difference is usually around a factor of 30. Submerge the same heat sink in water rather than air, and you will get a lot more heat out of it. All things being equal, that 1 hW output will jump to 3 kW.

Of course, this is all if you submerge the heat sink. The heat sink is not a pinpoint that 1 g of water can submerge (otherwise it'd be a lousy heat sink). If instead we're talking about locallized exposure to water while the rest of the heat sink must continue to work with air, you get not only the heat from the heat source, but also the heat from the dry portions of the heat sink, suddenly realizing there is now a path of lesser resistance, will move to put even more W/m^2 out of the wet portions of the heat sink than you'd see if the entire heat sink was submerged (at least until the water boils off and all those disappointed little calories have to go back to trying to work with air).

"That's the scary thing - not that it's hot, but that it *stays* hot!"

Conductor stays hot while electical current continues to move through it! Film at 11!

Direct youtube link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16700577)

here [youtube.com]
  cache of main page here [nyud.net]

Out of warranty ? (0, Offtopic)

MartijnL (785261) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700587)

How can the thing be out of warranty ? The KB article to which the article links suggests to return the console to Microsoft for repair.

Re:Out of warranty ? (1)

ImustDIE (689509) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700615)

I doubt the warranty covers using the heatsink as a stove.

Re:Out of warranty ? (3, Funny)

QuickFox (311231) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700671)

I doubt the warranty covers using the heatsink as a stove.

Damn Microsoft and their draconian license restrictions.

Re:Out of warranty ? (1)

Xiph (723935) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700617)

The x-box is out of warranty because it was bought a while ago, and the warranty is now outdated.
the knowledge base article is from before any x-boxes ran out of warranty.

Hmmmm... the built in spell checker in Firefox could have a huge impact on slash dot ;)

Re:Out of warranty ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16700729)

Ye, the spiel-chicer in fir fox always noes witch ward to recommend wen I'm wrong. No moor read squiggles fur me. :)

Eggs and Home Fries (1)

oskard (715652) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700589)

Use all of your electronics to make the ultimate meal for nerds:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1104341 [hardforum.com]

Re:Eggs and Home Fries (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16700831)

I always found regular cooking appliances better

Re:Eggs and Home Fries (1)

Emetophobe (878584) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702407)

Too bad his computer didn't actually heat the cooking oil by itself, he said he placed a heating element underneath the tray.

Hahaha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16700595)

Microsoft is now repairing all 360s free of charge. WHOOPS!

Three Red Lights of Death? (2, Insightful)

lpangelrob (714473) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700605)

The 360's not even a year old... I'm assuming the Lights of Death aren't a widespread problem? I would have read more about that on /. by now if it was widespread. (No, I don't own one.)

The video isn't really worth watching, even if it is hosted on YouTube. Just another "cooking on electronics" example.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

interiot (50685) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700619)

Microsoft is paying for repairs for the first batch of 360's shipped. [1] [gamesindustry.biz] I've had the three-redlights problem that had to be shipped in to MS, and it sounds like quite a few others online have as well.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

SpeedyRich (754676) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700645)

Uh-oh. A bible-bashing XBox fanboy.

You from th'deep south, boy?

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

lpangelrob (714473) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700673)

Actually, more like a Nintendo fanboy fiscal-conservative social-liberal from Chicago. Thanks, though. :-p

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

SpeedyRich (754676) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700833)

I need a wee :)

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16700901)

It's probably more commonplace than you might think. Our first 360 we got in December last year lasted 2 days before the 3 red lights came on. The replacement we eventually got back did slightly better and lasted a few weeks but it also went the same way and had to be replaced. We're on our third 360 (all at MS's expense thankfully) and this one seems a little better put together but I'm still scared of it letting go OUTSIDE the warranty period now; I can't see this thing lasting a couple of years, especially at those temperatures shown in the video.

As for how widespread it is, I can only speculate whether our little town I live in (UK) is just very unlucky but when I sent my first one back the delivery guy said they'd picked up 17 with the same problem just in our area. This is when they were still rare as hen's teeth, so I reckon the failure rate might have been a little more than 3% with that sort of figure.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16702251)

Man, when you think about those statistics I wonder how much MS is really losing on the 360 considering they sell them at a loss to begin with.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700991)

The 360's not even a year old... I'm assuming the Lights of Death aren't a widespread problem?

If it's less then a year old, and just guessing that the warranty on the xbox360 is atleast a year . . . then what'd this guy do to void his warranty?

Given that, isn't this non-story just a video of a guy cooking an egg on something hot?

Slow news day?

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

dlZ (798734) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701259)

If it's less then a year old, and just guessing that the warranty on the xbox360 is atleast a year . . . then what'd this guy do to void his warranty?

The warranty is only 90 days unless you buy as extended one. But they did extend the warranty on units produced in 2005. My unit was giving me the 3 light error over a month ago, and I called MS and they told me it was out of warranty. I called back about a week later on a tip from a local EB Games employee, and they did say the warranty had been extended on these units, and my box to ship it back would be arriving soon. The repaired unit also has another 90 day warranty on it.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701667)

Why o why does consumers put up with that?

Here in Denmark we got a mandatory 2 year warranty, the first year the seller has to produce evindence of mishandling in order to void it (very hard), the second year it's left to the consumer to prove error on the producers part (pretty easy) - but the way it works is the buisness always take in the item within the first two years. And on top of that you get the warranty extended if you have to get it repaired - that means if something breaks after 1 1/2 years, they will most likely take it in and you get 2 years more warranty.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

vperez (162398) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702109)

It's not like we actually have a choice. It's either buy with little warranty, buy the overpriced extended warranty, or don't buy at all.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16702207)

So... how much more do you end up paying for consumer goods in Denmark?

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

dlZ (798734) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702295)

We put up with it because we don't have that much of a choice. As a PC reseller, though, I don't sell any systems that come with less than a 1 year warranty. All the desktops we sell come with a 3 year warranty by default, though. But as a consumer I don't always have that option, unless I'm willing to shell out more money (sometimes easily in the hundreds) for an extended warranty.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702151)

This is one of the many reasons why I bought a GameCube last generation. If the manufacturer doesn't trust their product enough to warranty it for at least 1 year, then I'm not buying it. Especially with expensive electronics. However, I'm not sure if it's all MS's doing, or if retailers push them to only warranty it for 90 days, so they can make a killing off selling the extended warranty. Still MS is evil because they have the final say on the warranty terms, but I can't help but think the retailers push them a little bit.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701465)

the red ring of death happened to my xbox360 too but when I called Microsoft they said they extended the warranty by a year or something (I only bought mine like 4 or 5 months ago) which is awesome, because for $50cdn when I bought my console I payed for the 3 year extended warranty from MS and apparently they just appended that extra time onto my existing warranty.
 
So I guess long story short is: either this guy was too cheap to buy a decently priced warranty, or he had done something to his xbox360 to void the warranty. Seeing how he decided to make a video of cooking an egg on the heatsink I bet he had done the DVDfirmware mod.
 
I figure that if the 360 mods are as easy as the first xbox mods by the time my warranty ends I'll consider modding it then, but anytime before then is just foolish.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702117)

So I guess long story short is: either this guy was too cheap to buy a decently priced warranty, or he had done something to his xbox360 to void the warranty.


Okay, I buy the warrantee when it's feasable (say, 10-20 bucks), but that should not be nessessary. The product is exepcted to be selling for 5 years, right? Then why the hell wouldn't they build every one of them to last at least 5 years? This isn't the motor vehicle industry, this is consoles. And people excpect thier consoles to last damn near forever. I've got an NES and SNES which both work perfectly. The NES was out for a year when my dad bought it for us, and I bought the SNES the day it came out. Same with the N64, and Gamecube.


Now poeple have to wonder if their systems are going to last. It started with the original Playstation not working correctly. Multiple revisions later we have the very reliable PSOne. Well, I don't care about costs and whatnot to the developer, but if your product doesn't last, then you should pay for it. Kudos to MS for taking care of their issues. But I'm still pissed that their machine is having issues and I don't even own one.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702179)

this guy was too cheap to buy a decently priced warranty
You shouldn't have to pay extra for a real warranty. 3 months is nothing. If you buy it for your kids for Christmas, the warranty could be half gone by the time you open the box. I think that MS is being really underhanded in selling a $400 piece of electronics, which the previous model had known failures, and only giving a 90 day warranty.

Re:Three Red Lights of Death? (1)

LordKronos (470910) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701519)

The video isn't really worth watching

You can say that again.

OMG!!!!! A heat sink with NO FANS and a BOX built around it so that it gets absolutely NO AIRFLOW can get incredibly hot!!!!! Who'd have guessed it?????? I wonder....if you remove the heatsink entirely, do you think there's any chance the chip itself might get hot too??????????

Completely off topic... (0, Offtopic)

kongit (758125) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700613)

but what is with the microsoft ad that is wider then the rest messing up the straight clean lines of the slashdot homepage? This is the first time I have seen an add on the right column that is wider then the rest of the column thus forcing one topic to shrink, not all the topics just one. Who let this ad through...especially a microsoft one. I will support microsoft when they support linux......oh....wait....

Re:Completely off topic... (1)

bassgoonist (876907) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702229)

adblock/noscript ftw...

With my NintendoDS I can cook too... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16700647)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_Mama [wikipedia.org]

I start the day with Brain Age (Me: 32, My Brain: 23) and then my DS teaches me cooking... :'-)

Yes but... (2, Funny)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700655)

..is it dishwasher safe?

Re:Yes but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16700669)

ckqybriagf

Re:Yes but... (1)

NIckGorton (974753) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701463)

Probably. My boyfriend taught me this trick: nasty, disgusting appliance or electronics? Wash it in the dishwasher, let dry a week, then re-use spanking clean item. I thought he was trying to kill me when I found our toaster in the diswasher. But that was 7 years ago, and I'm not dead. Yet.

Old? (1)

jmke (776334) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700659)

It has been done before... long time ago, hot running CPU's is nothing new... or is it? How to fry an egg on an Athlon XP [madshrimps.be]

Re:Old? (1)

pavera (320634) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700695)

in your link it took 11 minutes to cook the egg
the xbox cooked the egg almost instantly. It seriously took less than 10 seconds to cook the egg.

Re:Old? (1)

jmke (776334) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700715)

what do you want from a multi-core CPU? ;)

Re:Old? (1)

pavera (320634) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700873)

I just got my new macbook pro core 2 duo 2.33... it runs at least 75% cooler than my old dell single core pentium M 1.67
I couldn't use the dell on my lap for more than about 15-20 minutes, the macbook is seriously the coolest (temperature wise) laptop I've ever used.

Re:Old? (1)

jmke (776334) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700885)

doesnt IBM make the 360 CPU? Three cores at 3.2Ghz powerPC config, they are not known for being very cool (remember the water cooled apple G5?) so put three of those cores on a single CHIP and it will use a lot more than older PCs:)

Not a new concept, but it is a benchmark! (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700701)

It is a benchmark of how hot console CPUs are getting. It was unimaginable to think that a playstation or a SNES would be able to fry an egg... But...

Re:Not a new concept, but it is a benchmark! (1)

Datamonstar (845886) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700903)

It's more like a benchmark of how easy (and inefficient) it is to put a regular PC into a fancy white case.

Re:Not a new concept, but it is a benchmark! (1)

cibyr (898667) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701439)

The xbox was (close to) a regular PC. The xbox 360 is a lot more custom, and a far cry from a regular PC.

Re:Not a new concept, but it is a benchmark! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701627)

Actually it's a far cry from being a far cry from a regular PC.

COMMENT SCORE UP (4, Informative)

Klaidas (981300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700827)

The link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLabckoPC0g&eurl= [youtube.com]
Ok, no need to mod me up. This is not informative at all. I just wanted to take this post away from karma wh**es ;)

Re:COMMENT SCORE UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16700941)

What the heck. I already posted this above (anon, no less). [slashdot.org]
You're the karma whore here.

I'm confused (1)

Actuator Man (874693) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701297)

What are these karma whales you're talking about?

Re:COMMENT SCORE UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701311)

You forgot the utube [utube.com] link.

Re:COMMENT SCORE UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16702167)

Why didn't you post anonymously if you really just wanted to take the post away from karma wh**es?

How do I get on Slashdot? (3, Funny)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700847)

I'll cook some scrambled eggs off a heat sink from the xBox 360. How do I get to look really stupid on Slashdot? By using a metal fork! Well done.

Re:How do I get on Slashdot? (1)

Jim Hall (2985) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701845)

I'll cook some scrambled eggs off a heat sink from the xBox 360. How do I get to look really stupid on Slashdot? By using a metal fork! Well done.

You prefer that he use a plastic spork, do you? :-)

Three Red Lights of Death (1)

SpindelCM (1000230) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700871)

As per the linked article: "Some dude by the name of Brett has gotten the dreaded Three Red Lights of Death on his Xbox 360,"

Does the Three Red Lights of Death have any relationship to the MS Windows Blue Screen of Death?

Same shit, just different colour.

That's nice... (2, Funny)

marcel-jan.nl (647348) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700877)

.. but I'll wait for the XBox 361 with wok adapter.

Re:That's nice... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701385)

That's only for the asian market.

wow that cant be good (1)

acedotcom (998378) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700913)

i mean, isnt any video game system meant as a kids toy?

Power consumption (1)

beej (82035) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700923)

I used to work in an Activision-owned studio. One day the IT guy comes through trying to with our power issues. He insists that we move the little dorm fridge (where we keep all the Coca Cola that powers us programmers) onto another circuit to help with the issue.

So, complaining, we do. And go back to work on our 20-odd brand-spankin'-new Xbox 360 dev kits.

Only later do I look at the back of the fridge and determine that it uses only half the power of a SINGLE Xbox 360.

It's amazing the entire building didn't catch fire when we had all those things plugged in.

Re:Power consumption (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701123)

Well, it's a damn good thing you weren't doing a PS3 game then, or you'd have burnt down everything within a 5-mile radius ;)

Re:Power consumption (1)

frogstar_robot (926792) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701507)

The fridge is an inductive load and can cause phase and waveform issues with the power. Power issues aren't limited to the wattage a given device consumes.

Re:Power consumption (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701591)

Because the 20 inductive loads of the transformers in the XBOX 360 don't have the same effect?

Re:Power consumption (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16702279)

+1
I used to manage a network for a small mortgage company. They'd start having problems (bluescreens, computer resets etc) every day at around 2pm. I was confounded til I plugged a multitester into the power, and watched the voltage for a few minutes. I walked outside and looked at the hours of operation of the bowling alley downstairs. Hmmm 1pm.

There was plenty of power to go around, it just got really unstable when the bowling alley turned on. Motors are not very good for your power. They cause a spike every time they turn on.

-AC

Re:Power consumption (1)

PeterBrett (780946) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702393)

The fridge is an inductive load and can cause phase and waveform issues with the power.

-1, Wrong. If the fridge was manufactured any time in the last decade it is almost certain to have power factor correction capacitors. This is now a requirement for consumer electronics and electrical applicances (in the EU, at least)...

Natalie Portman (1)

tekrat (242117) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700949)

Okay, so, he's got the hot grits...

I'm sure we've run this joke into the ground by now.

scrambled eggs (1)

Nicaboker (978150) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700955)

mmmmmmm heat sink cooked scrambled eggs..

Poor Sony (5, Funny)

FreakyLefty (803946) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700963)

I'd like to see the PS3 do this. If Sony's offering can't make me a bacon sandwich then I'll just have to stick with Microsoft for all my culinary needs.

Re:Poor Sony (1)

Red Alastor (742410) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701693)

I'm sure the PS3 can satisfy your needs :

http://www.ps3grill.com/ [ps3grill.com]

Re:Poor Sony (1)

Borland (123542) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702143)

Pfft! As a Sony fanboy I can declare that this particular slander is unjustified. The Xbox has, what, 180 something watts to cook with? Might as well use an easy bake oven nancy-boy!

The PS3 has 380 Watts of pure power to sear delicious hunks of meat. If you're civic minded, you can load up folding@home to generate the needed power. Thus, you have your steak and cure cancer too.

Re:Poor Sony (1)

dlhm (739554) | more than 7 years ago | (#16702361)

What PS3? There's a PS3? Oh, thats right, it's been delayed for some unknown reason... :) maybe it cooks steak and eggs and thier trying to get it in the egg only range..

So by the time ... (1)

Channard (693317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16700973)

... you get the second call from Otis in Dead Rising, the egg's soft boiled?

What's with the music? (1)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701039)

Why is there a music track instead of commentry?

Re:What's with the music? (1)

whoop (194) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701097)

It's a law. Everything on YouTube must have music tracks.

The PS3 uses twice the electricity. So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701151)

It'd better deliver me a lump of charcoal, sunny side up.

Seriously, though... The PS3:

1) Actually does use twice as much electricity.
2) Has the power bar stuffed into its oversized chassis.
3) Reportedly runs quiet (like the 360 when the drive isn't spinning), implying very little fan circulation.

It's going to get mighty hot. So hot, that it just might crash constantly during a Japanese gaming convention.

I asked for over easy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701265)

I tried this on my Dell laptop...

My eggs caught fire, too =(

MMMM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701301)

THAT'S GOOD EATIN'

No Fans! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701409)

Of course it's hotter than normal - the 360 has a built in fan to move air across that heat sink. I dont know about anyone else but I sure didn't see it.

That, and i'm sure he let it sit a while to heat up so the energy (heat) retained in the heatsink actually cooked the egg - NOT necessarialy the steady heat output from the CPU. Not that impressive really - it doesn't take much to cook an egg.

disgusting! (1)

whynotshikida (1020651) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701675)

he... ate... it... ouch...

New Book Idea (1)

WhitePanther5000 (766529) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701719)

Maybe Oreilly should come out with a "Xbox 360 Cookbook" book to add to their cookbook series.

Mess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16701797)

Why make such a mess? This exercise is pointless as you can probably cook an egg on about _any_ processor. To show the "hotness" he had better placed a small (clean) pan on the cooler to do his trick. Would have been healthier too.

Direct video link? (1)

fire-eyes (522894) | more than 7 years ago | (#16701859)

Does anyone have a direct video link? To the media itself, not a youtube page which can only be played with flash.
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