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Jesux is a Bad Pun

Roblimo posted more than 14 years ago | from the another-reason-to-dump-Linux-for-freeBSD dept.

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Lots and lots of Slashdot readers have either sent in this ZDNet article or a direct link to the Jesux homepage." It's a hoax, folks. Think: if you were a Christian believer, would you name your Linux distribution something so close to "Jesus Sucks?" The concept isn't even original; variations on this theme have been floating around the Net for years because of Unix and its "kills" and "aborts" and "daemons."

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2 or 3 decades of the net??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654659)

> variations on this theme have been floating around the Net since Unix started getting popular two or three decades ago.

i hate to nit pick, but has the net really been around for 2 or 3 decades??? or am i just that ignorant?

Shrug (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654660)

Just a name.

Jestux would make (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654661)

a great base for a beowulf cluster.

Ugh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654662)

I vote that the distributor be forced to listen to a 3rd grader read out of a joke book for 1 hour for every copy made. -JBS

Next you'll be saying... (5)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654663)

...that the Eunux system for harem and whorehouse management is a hoax, too.

Curious (2)

joshv (13017) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654664)

There is a reference on the Jesux homepage to emails received from slashdotters, claiming definitively in response that it is NOT a hoax.

I think their intent to change the names of system calls such as 'abort' pretty much singles this out as a hoax.

-josh

Re:2 or 3 decades of the net??? (2)

Roblimo (357) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654665)

I changed it to "years." But yes, the Internet had its 30th birthday a few weeks ago. I first logged on to a DARPAnet terminal in 1972. And even then there were jokes about how some Unix commands were anti-Christian.

How about a distro called Penix? (3)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654666)

Designed for penetration! Lightning fast mounts! Cracking supporting with the hhway module! Uses finger as an antering wedge -- you think it's finger, but it's not!

I have been at work too long ...

Phew! Good things there's Slashdot.... (1)

blogan (84463) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654667)

to provide accurate information, unlike ZDNN. Besides isn't Windows in more need of divine intervention than Linux?

I guess this helps to reinforce the fact that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654668)

Windows is the devil's work.

Where did this joke originate? (1)

dennisp (66527) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654669)

Did this originate from the joke about linux users being fundamentalists to their OSS religion? A lot of people have drawn a line between both on many sites including this one.

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Jesux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654670)

What can I say? You can't spell "Jesux" without "Hook, Line, and Sinker". ZDNet staff must be a bit red in the face...

Seriously, though, this looks like some schmuck with a bad sense of humor put up a web page and waited for it to catch fire. Looks like his wish was met.

Congrats, whoever you are. I had a few good chuckles. (but I wouldn't want to be your ISP's complaint department right now)

Roblimo: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654671)

I'd be willing to bet that you are VERY wrong and Jesux will be released as planned.

God has spoken.

Looks like a hoax. (3)

Stonehand (71085) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654672)

Among other things, the GPL specificially prohibits placing additional limitations via sublicenses, so requiring, say, quotes from Scripture is all out. At least that's from a quickie reading (IANAL...).

If anything, it might be a parody put forth -- a crude dual joke on both those who actually care about or respect religion, and reporters who don't check out the facts.

Re:2 or 3 decades of the net??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654673)

That's funny. Today, we had a going away party for a person who has been with this oil company for 36 years. He started 8 years before I was born. Now you start with logging onto Milnet when I was two. Great. I was just starting to feel like an old fart and people like you come along to spoil my fun ;)

Lucifux (4)

debrain (29228) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654674)

Lucifux : Latest hardcore fundamentalist Anti-Christ OS available!

Kill referenced in every man page.
Killall referenced in every man page.
Random thread kills. Threads scream in pain when killed.
Suicide replaces old shutdown command.
Anal probe replaces ping.
All threads given daemon privaleges.
Sporadically downloads and plays Marilyn Manson mp3's.
CD-ROM drive spins backwards.
Pornographic links hardcoded into Lynx, the only true fundamentalist browser.
Software written by heterosexuals or women will only be permitted if they are sent email informing them of their transgressions against pleasure. Mastrubration is a form of pennance.

Ok, we're all satisfied. I'm going to hell. No doubt about it. But I bed a DAMNED someone out there got a chuckle out of this parody! Extremism with extremism never works, the exception being when one extreme is humour.

The Good Thing ... (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654675)

The good thing about Linux is that there is interest in the Christian community in using and evangelizing it to their followers. Here's an article [gospelcom.net] in Christian Computing magazine. I suppose they may even discuss this Jesux issue at some future time. And, may be we'll get their take on this matter--is it hoax or is it fact?

I personally don't see the need for a Christian Linux distribution. I have always felt uneasy about that daemon looking BSD mascot. So, the sooner that's replaced with something else, the better!

worth a few laughs (1)

caldodge (1152) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654676)

As a born-again (and Bourne-again (RH 6.0, FWIW)) Christian, I got a few chuckles from the site - but it was REALLY obvious that it was a hoax.

I think the biggest laugh I got came when I learned that ZDNet was treating it as a serious news story [zdnet.com] .

GPL & Clustering (2)

The Musician (65375) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654677)

Two things:

1) The obligatory licencing quip:
Isn't in violation of the GPL to release Red Hat's distro, with changes, under this new license?

2) The obligatory cluster comment:
Man, those would make a fine Beowolf cluster

Amen

Re:..strange (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654678)

I plucked out some of the juicy bits:


Login screen has full text to Lord's Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance, with Christian and American symbols

Squid proxy server (plus squidGuard) bundled and configured for blocking illicit web sites (including a regularly updated list of illicit sites and URL patterns to install on your own; we will be looking for mature and diligent volunteers to help maintain it)

Optionally disable logins on Sunday, the day of rest

chmod(1) accepts hexadecimal modes, such as 0x01B6

qmail replaces sendmail as the standard MTA (sendmail was written by a prominent homosexual

Hierarchical user structure, so parents and teachers can easily access children's files without needing to become root

No encryption provided; Christians have nothing to hide

End jusux quote

I hope it's not serious. Hard to tell if he's joking or not. Be scary if people would actually use something like this. Ack.
Here's a better name.."Psychonux"

Re:Lucifux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654679)

I am sure that I could port slay over without too much trouble -- from one daemon to another.

Re:The Good Thing ... (2)

Darchmare (5387) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654680)

What's wrong with the BSD mascot?

The christian version of a 'daemon' is not that shared by other religions (in particular, satanism). Why should Linux kowtow to any certain faith?

Forget it. The daemon stays. :>


- Darchmare
- Axis Mutatis, http://www.axismutatis.net

hmm. (1)

jcs (90508) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654681)

Linux | Posted by Roblimo on 08:40 PM September 27th, 1999 CST
from the another-reason-to-dump-Linux-for-freeBSD dept.

Lucix - the anti-Jesux (3)

zempf (4454) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654682)

A friend of a friend saw that Jesux page and created the Lucix [unixpunx.org] distro. Same stupid puns, just from the complete other side of the religious viewpoint :)


-mike kania

Re:Looks like a hoax. (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654683)

Why do you imply that it is bad to respect religion. I imagine it is because you have a limited view of religion. I don't necessarily mean christianity either. If you argue about it enough, you could eventually hold that science is religion, if you wanted to. There is no good reason to disrespect an attempt to explain existence just because it exists. Oh well, I am probably overreacting to what you said.

Re:GPL & Clustering (1)

MtnMan1021 (47935) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654684)

Beowolf cluster = congregation

just wondering (no offense to anyone) exactly how many religious "christian hackers" are there?

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Re:The Good Thing ... (5)

loki7 (11496) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654685)

This story ahs been floating around the net for a long time (about 6 or 7 years?):

Linda Branagan is an expert on daemons. She has a T-shirt that sports the daemon in tennis shoes that appears on the cover of the 4.3BSD manuals and The Design and Implementation of the 4.3BSD UNIX Operating System by S. Leffler, M. McKusick, M. Karels, J. Quarterman, Addison-Wesley Publishing Company, Reading, MA 1989.

She tells the following story about wearing the 4.3BSD daemon T-shirt:

Last week I walked into a local ``home style cookin' restaurant/watering hole'' in Texas to pick up a take-out order. I spoke briefly to the waitress behind the counter, who told me my order would be done in a few minutes.

So, while I was busy gazing at the farm implements hanging on the walls, I was approached by two ``natives.'' These guys might just be the original Texas rednecks.

``Pardon us, ma'am. Mind if we ask you a question?''

Well, people keep telling me that Texans are real friendly, so I nodded.
``Are you a Satanist?''
Well, at least they didn't ask me if I liked to party.
``Uh, no, I can't say that I am.''
``Gee, ma'am. Are you sure about that?'' they asked.

I put on my biggest, brightest Dallas Cowboys cheerleader smile and said, ``No, I'm positive. The closest I've ever come to Satanism is watching Geraldo.''

``Hmmm. Interesting. See, we was just wondering why it is you have the lord of darkness on your chest there.''

I was this close to slapping one of them and causing a scene--then I stopped and noticed the shirt I happened to be wearing that day. Sure enough, it had a picture of a small, devilish-looking creature that has for some time now been associated with a certain operating system. In this particular representation, the creature was wearing sneakers.

They continued: ``See, ma'am, we don't exactly appreciate it when people show off pictures of the devil. Especially when he's lookin' so friendly.''

These idiots sounded terrifyingly serious.

Me: ``Oh, well, see, this isn't really the devil, it's just, well, it's sort of a mascot.''

Native: ``And what kind of football team has the devil as a mascot?''
Me: ``Oh, it's not a team. It's an operating--uh, a kind of computer.''

I figured that an ATM machine was about as much technology as these guys could handle, and I knew that if I so much as uttered the word ``UNIX'' I would only make things worse.

Native: ``Where does this satanical computer come from?''

Me: ``California. And there's nothing satanical about it really.''

Somewhere along the line here, the waitress noticed my predicament--but these guys probably outweighed her by 600 pounds, so all she did was look at me sympathetically and run off into the kitchen.

Native: ``Ma'am, I think you're lying. And we'd appreciate it if you'd leave the premises now.''

Fortunately, the waitress returned that very instant with my order, and they agreed that it would be okay for me to actually pay for my food before I left. While I was at the cash register, they amused themselves by talking to each other.

Native #1: ``Do you think the police know about these devil computers?''

Native #2: ``If they come from California, then the FBI oughta know about 'em.''

They escorted me to the door. I tried one last time:

``You're really blowing this all out of proportion. A lot of people use this `kind of computers.' Universities, researchers, businesses. They're actually very useful.''

Big, big, big mistake. I should have guessed at what came next.

Native: ``Does the government use these devil computers?''

Me: ``Yes.''

Another big boo-boo.

Native: ``And does the government pay for 'em? With our tax dollars?''

I decided that it was time to jump ship.

Me: ``No. Nope. Not at all. Your tax dollars never entered the picture at all. I promise. No sir, not a penny. Our good Christian congressmen would never let something like that happen. Nope. Never. Bye.''

Edited and converted to HTML by Dan Bornstein, danfuzz@milk.com.

Glass House Dep't. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654686)

Hmmm. Sistine Chapel was painted by prominent
homosexual.

Last Supper was painted by another prominent homosexual.

I guess we'll have to chuck them, too.

Oh, well, any sacrifice for superstition.

-Mush-head

Re:Next you'll be saying... (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654687)

And then there's Heretix, Lunatix, Dominatrix, Dislexix, Paramedix,.... Truly, a distribution for everyone.

Re:Looks like a hoax. (1)

Stonehand (71085) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654688)

Oh, I meant no disrespect to religion. {shrug} Not sure where it was implied, but eh.

ZDNet doesn't want to admit its mistake (2)

Imperator (17614) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654689)

http://www.zdnet .com/tlkbck/comment/22/0,7056,78176-250601,00.html [zdnet.com]

Hoax? As I wrote in the article, I wasn't sure. I'm still not. I've been given 'proofs' that it's a hoax, but none of them stand up.

This guy lists his occupation as "Cyber Cynic".

I feel really stupid for this, but... can someone please explain the humor in chmod accepting hex modes? I just don't get it, and that's frustrating me. Maybe I'll find some caffeine and think about it again.

Company's web page??? (2)

chuck (477) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654690)

Okay, so ZDNet writers aren't actually journalists, so you can't expect much from them. But their link to the Jesux company's Web page [geocities.com] is rediculous. How many companies host their web page on GeoCities?!?!?

I think I'll recommend that as a cost-cutting measure at the next company meeting. ``Say boss, I think that outsourcing our company's web page is not cost-effective. Look at all those places where you can get a web page for free!''

Here comes that promotion!

Re:The Good Thing ... (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654691)

Maybe if the daemon were wearing cowboy boots and had a shotgun they would have accepted it.

A decent hoax. (1)

Codger (8212) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654692)

But a hoax nonetheless. C'mon, didn't you figure that out right away? First (and most superficial) they didn't have www.jesux.org/com/net. And then.. a hierarchical file system? It's an interesting idea, may be easy to set up (I could set up premissions like that in NT) but still, it makes one wonder. Speaking of wondering, though, what if it isn't a hoax? Most of the changes wouldn't be too hard (other than changing kill &c) but again, the prominent lack of existing holy E themes should be a clue. Hard to say.

A decent hoax. (1)

Codger (8212) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654693)

But a hoax nonetheless. C'mon, didn't you figure that out right away? First (and most superficial) they didn't have www.jesux.org/com/net. And then.. a hierarchical file system? It's an interesting idea, may be easy to set up (I could set up premissions like that in NT) but still, it makes one wonder.

Speaking of wondering, though, what if it isn't a hoax? Most of the changes wouldn't be too hard (other than changing kill &c) but again, the prominent lack of existing holy E themes should be a clue.

Hard to say.

Penix = Peecee Unix (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654694)

So don't go joking around at what everybody at slash-dot is using.

If any of them knew there were using somebody else's Penix, then would immediately throw it out a man would only use his own.

Don't forget to set up automount when you give your penix to a girl so that it will happen on demand w/o needing to go through the procedure.

Re:Lucix - the anti-Jesux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654695)

I think that you horked the penquin off of www.satanic.org! That may have been a bad idea -- even Satan doesn't fuck with the BOFHen.

Re:ZDNet doesn't want to admit its mistake (2)

Speed Racer (9074) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654696)

666 ring a bell?

Re:worth a few laughs.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654697)

Maybe we should have a contest to see just how clueless zdnet really is. Too bad I've got the whole domain in my junkbuster killfile.

Re:2 or 3 decades of the net??? (1)

pudge (3605) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654698)

roblimo, I don't see a necessary correlation to jokes about these things and the fact that this must be a joke. I mean, look at Ross Perot: sometimes jokes are indisinguishable from reality.

Anyway, I think the name "Jesux" probably wouldn't be used if it were legitmate. On the other hand, they could have just made a bad choice, not noticing that it could be rendered as "Jesus sux". I've seen dumber mistakes than that.

I actually don't care if it is a joke or not. I mean, what will it change, whether or not it is real? Will we get any less of a laugh out of it either way? Will it change Linux significantly? Even if it is a hoax, that does not preclude people from taking some of its ideas and making a real "Jesux" distribution (with a better name :). It may be interesting to see how it plays out.

Computers and Morality (4)

extrasolar (28341) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654699)

Hoax or not, it does bring up a good issue. I used to be a Chrisitian but I never thought that God would care what I did on my computer. I think it seems plausable that God would overlook the creations of His creations. The commandments say "Thou shall not kill" but does that include inanimate processes? What if we develop artificial intelligence? Would it be immoral to kill such a process?

And is it sin to view porn on the internet? Is that akin to adultery for those who are married? And is saying His name in vain into xterm wrong? what if you said it in a shell script with an infinite loop?

Is worshipping RMS^H^H^HUnix against the First Commandment?

I am mostly serious about this. I have never thought that religion and computers have anything to do with each other. But you never know. Anyone know of a way to sin using a computer?

Whatever the answer, the Ten Commandments are long overdue for a revision.

Note: I am not trying to be sacro-religious either. I don't mean to offend anyone, it is just my curiousity gets the best of me.

--

Re:Penix? I'll call your bluff! (2)

glitch! (57276) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654700)

So you think you can handle Penix? Ok, big guy - I will call your bluff. I will give you control
of penix.com, and you create the web site and distribution. It's up to you, but I suggest:
"Loosely based on the BFD distribution",
"Comes with the book 'Penix Unzipped'",
"Available as an embedded system",
Including utilities like: finger, head, man,
mount, tail, touch, and uptime.
Supports frontpage, hard links, ports, and sockets, of course.
Well you asked for it - get to work :-)

Re:Penix = Peecee Unix (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654701)

Well, she was a little sore after the last cracking incident -- I didn't have permissions so I brute forced it -- and she would rather be able to explicitly call mount and control which mount point exactly. I suggested automount and got a lecture. Oh well. It seemed that we weren't in agreement about the target of the mount -- I chose the wrong socket ...

Host (1)

SEGV (1677) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654702)

They missed the obvious host puns.

I dunno... (1)

Jeremiah (3476) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654703)

chmod(1) accepts hexadecimal modes, such as 0x01B6


..that one was kind of cute. At least it made me stop and think. The rest of the joke blew, mind you, but that was cute.

Jesux.com (1)

Alowishus (34824) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654704)

Note that the WHOIS report for 'jesux.com' shows it's registered to "Satan's Minions." And it was just registered a few days ago...

Found that quite amusing... ya' think someone did that just in CASE Jesux is real?

Hehe....

If Christians have nothing to hide... (2)

int (9392) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654705)

then why don't I see any names etc of the (dist) creators on the jesux page?

Waiting for Jesux release version 2 (5)

plopez (54068) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654706)

Due out any minute now. Be ready!

:)

Re:Computers and Morality (2)

Speed Racer (9074) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654707)

I have never thought that religion and computers have anything to do with each other. But you never know. Anyone know of a way to sin using a computer?

That's akin to asking if anyone knows of a way to sin using a car. The instrument doesn't sin, the operator sins. If you fornicate in a car, it's not the car's fault but it was intimately involved in the commission of the sin. Computers are tools. The sin is in the use of the tool in an improper manner (like installing NT).

Gay Renaiscance Artists (0)

kfort (1132) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654708)

I think Raphael was the only 'ninja turtle' who wasn't at least very likely to be homosexual.

kfort

Re:Lucix - the anti-Jesux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654709)

Hey now. No penguin-horking allowed here. Move along, move along ...

JESUX.COM (2)

Hasdi Hashim (17383) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654710)

Looks like it didn't take long for somebody to claim the domain name. The homepage is last updated on the 24th September 1999. This domain was registered on 24th September 1999 by, believe or not:

Satan's Minions (JESUX2-DOM)
330 Washington Blvd Suite 602
Marina Del Rey, CA 90292
US

I am gonna lookup for lucifux and penix next. If you guys have nothing better to do, I suggest you sign up these domain names fast! :-)

Hasdi

Re:Jesux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654711)

Looks like his wish was met.

Or hers.

When I first saw this page, "bash(1) is the default" made it clear it's a joke. Real fundies don't say "bash", they say "lovingly chastise" and such.

Then the fact that it's valid HTML rules out another 99.9%....

Homophobic? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654712)

Part of the list of features includes:
qmail replaces sendmail as the standard MTA (sendmail was written by a prominent homosexual)

But I don't think this goes far enough to describe how many alternatives would have to be found to classic RedHat (or SuSE or Debian or FreeBSD or DR-DOS or Novell or NT or etc) for the strictly homophobic Christian Coalition [cc.org] supporter to ensure that they aren't using homo-authored/contributed material. I would also like to encourage the Jesux maintainers to pre-configure squidGaurd to ensure that the homo-contributed sections of Apache are never indirectly used by locking out any site which claims to be using Apache in the HTTP header. I have the nessary modifications available but I have questioned my own sexuality a couple times so to ensure the purity of Jesux squidGaurd configuration someone more blessed should make the offical modification. It also states on the list of feature that the Emacs "doctor" has been modified to do "pastor" which is a great feature. But since Emacs is distributed from the FSF with such material as "sex.6" and "condem.6", I would request that the Jesux distribution find an altertive to Emacs/Elisp to run "pastor." I belive the authors of Common Lisp walk the straight and narrow, possibly pastor can be executed by their hevenily enviroment.

Re:ZDNet doesn't want to admit its mistake (2)

MrCreosote (34188) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654713)

'can someone please explain the humor in chmod accepting hex modes?'

So xtians don't have to type in '666' when setting file attributes.

BSD Daemon (1)

IanCarlson (16476) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654714)

Waittaminnit...

If I remember correctly, Linux has a fat, happy penguin as a mascot. FreeBSD has a fat, happy, "daemon" as a mascot.

Now, I know, when I'm wearing my black cape and black make-up, whilst walking around with a severed goat-head on my back is when God-Groupies come up to me and ask "Are you saved?" (and every time, I hold up my horned hand and yell "Yes!")

And this is what strikes me as odd...

Wouldn't the Christians want to assimilate the BSD-ers into the "flock" because of the "demonic" logo? I mean Chu.., er, Beastie seems happy enough. Maybe that's just because he's happy about the amount of souls he's just harvested.

Damn, me and my big mouth. Now, in a week, we'll see pointers to the new FreeG.O.D. O/S. What have I done?

Re:hmm. (1)

Roblimo (357) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654715)

I couldn't help it. If you'd been in my shoes, could *you* have resisted the temptation? ;-)

They forgot these (5)

Imperator (17614) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654716)

init now performs random acts of niceness

kernel periodically sends GOSPEL messages, which appear on all ttys by default

/home subdivided by denomination

alias burn-at-stake='rpm -e --force --nodeps'

functions of root now split into 3 accounts

Biblical quotes in /etc/issue, /etc/issue.net, /etc/motd, and similar places

xearth replaced by xheaven and xhell

random numbers a a form of gambling, so /dev/random and /dev/urandom are symlinked to /dev/zero

CGAN -- Christian Gospel Anti-heretic Network

serpents are sinful; python will not ship default with distribution, neither will anaconda be used as the installer

Re:The Good Thing ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654717)

That is what we used to call "queer camo" in East Texas. East Texas is not Texas -- is is some mutant extension of rural Alabama. Yes, to answer your question, they would accept it.

no way. (2)

Zurk (37028) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654718)

Its a hoax for one simple reason - it has a license thats incompatible with the GPL. You can rerelease linux as a BSD style program, so they cant release it anyway. OF course you cant host 600+megs of linux on a 10 meg geocities account either.

Is Beowolf... (1)

Wah (30840) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654719)

..a bit on the Satanic side for this distro.

Good grief! (1)

Electric Mollusk (34199) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654720)

They can hack out a Linux distro but they put their page on Geocities? I've lost all faith in ZDNet for believing it.

For those of you who think this isn't a hoax, you should check out my new distro, "Geosux". It's basically Linux, but it wants nothing to do with obnoxious pop-up HTML frames.

---

Re:The Good Thing ... (1)

Pascal Q. Porcupine (4467) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654721)

(disclaimer: IANAC; I am a devout agnostic. also, this references the story posted as a sibling to this post.) Because Christian fundamentalists tend to be stupid, bigoted, and don't know what they're talking about. I know a few fundamentalists who do know what they're talking about, and they're good people, but most of them are just sheeple. They buy more into media portrayals of satanism and think that anything with any sort of potential religious connotations or lack thereof is evil unless it falls flatly within their own sheeple beliefs.

These ignorant yokels, of course, wouldn't understand this, being uninformed, stupid, unthinking sheeple, and any amount of explanation wouldn't help any because they would have immediately labelled the original author as a satanist and therefore anything she says would instantly might as well be direct from Satan himself.

I hate sheeple.
---
"'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.

Consider the Source (2)

Velox_SwiftFox (57902) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654722)

What can one say about a Linux distribution whose home page is on Yahoo?

Does anything even need to be said?

Re:Computers and Morality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654723)

It is just as easy to sin without a computer as with. Religion is a way of life, so it would affect how one uses a computer, just as it would affect every other part of one's life. If someone is a criminal or simply a hateful person, he'll do the same things with his computer. Computers don't change what is right and wrong, they simply give us new ways to do either.

Re:no way. (2)

sinator (7980) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654724)

The page says "All *NEW* code" (emphasis my own) is to be released under the CSPL.

Re:Lucifux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654725)

And don't forget the bit where you go out and reap dead children!

Re:Waiting for Jesux release version 2 (+1 funny) (1)

Wah (30840) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654726)

Where'd I leave my mod points....

Check out SINUX too!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654727)

http://www.twistedlogic.com/sinux/

Re:Penix? I'll call your bluff! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654728)

I am sure that I can get help from around the world -- a veritable army! I shall call them "The Hard Corps!" Our motto shall be "Penix: For When You Must Be Hard At Work!" No, not great, but better than "Squeal! Squeal like a pig! Weeeeeeeeeee! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" Oh Ghod I need coffee. What kind of sick bastard could leave me here to do the mksysbs with no coffee ...

heh... (1)

sinator (7980) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654729)

chmod 0x01B6 == chmod 0666
The CSPL is based on the (Daemon-mascotted) BSD license?

Please.

Another good one! (1)

Ignatius (6850) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654730)

Check out Star Trek Is SATANIC [tripod.com] . Even more funny than the page itself is the guestbook [guestworld.com] . (As a European, the US ability of taking even the most absurd religious parodies for real never ceases to amaze me.)

"Hex" in context (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654731)

This subject tends to come up when fundamentalists start discussing computers as the ultimate proof that computers are the devil's tools, etc. (I'm a evangelical Christian and a hardcore computer user/operator, and I'm convinced that Christians have nothing to gain by fear.)

In literary geeky contexts, "hex" works in 2 ways: "Hex" by itself means a curse in witchcraft. However, using "hex" as a short form of "hexadecimal" (sp?) means the number system based on the number 6 (base 6 perhaps? Math fails me at the moment), just as our everyday number system is based on the number 10. In the Bible, the number 6 is representative of humans (I believe the reason is because humans are the sixth thing created), just as 7 is perfection. The last book of the Bible, the Book of Revelation (also known as the Revelation of John or the Apocalypse of John), a creature called the Beast (it's a vision, remember) who does Satan's dirty work is given the representative number 666, and anyone who wants to get in good with the Beast has to have that number on their forehead or hand in order to do business, and so on (the vision is not terribly specific further to that). It's been suggested that the triple six relates directly to humans, especially considering the notion from the book of Genesis that humans are intrinsically evil because they ate what God told them not to eat and were thrown out of the Garden of Eden. So, therefore, 666 would be the ultimate expression of evil and disobedience to God. (Actually, this is largely my way of trying to make sense of it, feel free to offer a more Orthodox interpretation.)

So, I guess this is a round about way of explaining that some Christians, attempting to read the modern world into the Bible, feel that computers are evil because they can be programmed/modified/whatever using a system based on the number six, which has evil apocalyptic connotations.

Hope this helps.......Glenn

Re:Computers and Morality (1)

SEE (7681) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654732)

Is that akin to adultery for those who are married?

Looking upon a woman with lust is adultery according to a quote attributed to Jesus in Gospels that are considered the Word of God.

So, looking at porn on the 'Net is okay, as long as you don't get aroused by it. Otherwise, it's adultery -- a crime punishable (like murder) in the Old Testament and in the time of Jesus by death.

In short, according to the Word of God as accepted by Christians, looking at one nudie pic for the erotic thrill is as equally deserving/undeserving of the death penalty as murdering someone by slow torture.

I know I'm taking this too seriously, but... (2)

Imperator (17614) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654733)

Sure, this is a fun joke thread, but let's assume for a minute that this is a serious micro-distro instead of a funny hoax that fooled ZDNet.

When I refer to a micro-distribution, I mean one of the many little "distributions" floating around that are really just a set of patches to a major (macro?) distribution. These micro-distros generally serve to make an existing distro more useful to a particular group of people: for example, the blind, Russians, Christians, Windows refugees, etc. What's wrong with that? Isn't Linux all about having choices? If there's demand for a particular (serious) micro-distro, then let it be. Not every distro aims at every user.

Disclaimer for the humor-impaired: the hoax in question is not what I consider a serious micro-distro. But it's the idea that counts here.
Bah, I really need a sense of humor.

Re:ZDNet doesn't want to admit its mistake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654734)

the hex code extered (0x01B6) adds up to 438? i STILL don't get it...

Re:Next you'll be saying... (1)

Imperator (17614) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654735)

Don't forget Asterix, Obelix, Getafix, Vitalstatistix, Cacophonix, and the rest of the indomitable warriors.

Re:How about a distro called Penix? (1)

linuxonceleron (87032) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654736)

This was on segfault before, its not original and should be moderated down. Jesux sucks!

Re:Gay Renaiscance Artists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654737)

And what about Yogi and Booboo? More homo cartoons! They're everywhere!

Interesting (1)

stevef (5539) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654738)

I think it's interesting that the majority of comments here are anti-christian rather than anti ZDnet for printing a rediculous story. Anyone with half an ounce of common sense can tell immediately that this is a joke. But the ZDnet article reports it as fact getting all your undies in a bunch.

Speaking as a rather devout Christian, I have no problem with any of the Unix slang/terminology. You're putting too much focus on the minority of Christians.

Steve

Re:"Hex" in context (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654739)

Sixteen.

Hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654741)

Might as well, there's already a flavor of UNIX called SINIX (Siemen's UNIX).

Re:Computers and Morality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654742)

ridulous, yes? religion relies on faith. faith relies, by very nature, on blind trust. many people are very emotional about their religion and blind trust. emotion clouds judgement. it follows then that religion clouds judgement. i would personally like to have a clear head. ps. hail eris.

Re:"Hex" in context (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654743)

Hmmm ... not quite. Hex is actually base 16, not 6. 0-9 and A-F, so your numerological argument doesn't *quite* hold. The issue is simply with 'chmod 666', a common way of giving users read-write access to files. It's actually, incorrect, as the args to chmod, if you look at them, are actually in *octal*, not hexadecimal. Yep, that's right, 0-7. Isn't UNIX fun? :^)

Re:Penix? I'll call your bluff! (1)

Sludge (1234) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654744)

This completely reminds me of the crudest first parameter that works with so many Linux commands: penis.

For example:
cat penis
finger penis
touch penis
grep penis
unzip penis
rm penis

Think of a few yourself, and you'll realise just how versatile penii are... I mean, how versatile Unix is.

Somewhat funny, but... (1)

Dast (10275) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654745)

It only encourages people to take shots at each other over this issue. It would be nice if everyone could be lighthearted about it, but they are not.

I wish you would have resisted.

Re:ZDNet doesn't want to admit its mistake (2)

StimpyBoy (11864) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654746)

Think in Octal, and then you'll get it:

0x01B6 = 438 base 10 = 666 base 8 aka octal

chmod xxx file uses xxx as an octal argument.

I must admit, that one was nice.

Re:ZDNet doesn't want to admit its mistake (1)

The Vorlon (15731) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654747)

chmod typically takes its argument as an octal mode, because it's a natural fit (there are three permission bits for each access group on a normal file). However, this usually means a three-digit octal number, and when you're dealing with three-digit numbers in base 8, the number '666' pops up rather frequently. The humor is that, by changing your number base, you could eliminate this Satanic occurence (at the same time, you would make it hard as hell to use...).

..it's a fake..?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654748)

..you mean we don't get to crucify NT users..?!

Re:Gay Renaiscance Artists (2)

linuxonceleron (87032) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654749)

Yeah esp. with that autistic donatello, always keeping to himself(Donnatello loves machines) fux0ring some machine, he must be gay, he never helped kick shredders ass either, he just screwed with machines, what a geeky turtle.

Re:Penix? I'll call your bluff! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654750)

I have always found them versatile. They are there when I need them and in fact any time I am the least bit interested, out they spring! Someone else takes care of them, I just get to play with them, and they are a pretty amusing toy. Sometimes it is nice to be a girl ;P

grep -> grope (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654751)

Hey check out: Buttlix [buttlix.com]

Re:Lucifux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654752)

: Pornographic links hardcoded into Lynx, the only true fundamentalist
: browser.

You joke, but not too long ago, one of the links in the Lynx help system accidentally pointed to a porn site.

Re:Gay Renaiscance Artists (1)

linuxonceleron (87032) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654753)

Wasn't booboo yogi's illegit son

Ewwww...incest

Buttlix is already taken (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654754)

Neiner neiner neiner! Buttlix [buttlix.com] is already taken!

Re:Gay Renaiscance Artists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654755)

And the pink panther. And Snagglepuss. And Scar, in The Lion King!

Re:GPL & Clustering (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654756)

The new license only applies to code they've written, not to existing GPLed code.

Re:The Good Thing ... (1)

antdude (79039) | more than 14 years ago | (#1654757)

I know my Christian university is converting to use Linux for various servers. Not only Linux, but other UNIX variants as well. It used to be all Windozes, but the university had too many problems (duh)!

Re:Penix? I'll call your bluff! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1654758)

dammit! why are geek girls anonymous!?
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