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Microsoft Debuts MySpace-Like IT Site

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the get-together-and-talk-cisco dept.

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snib writes "Microsoft has launched Aggreg8, a 'social networking and collaboration space for the IT community.' Apparently, the owner of the popular open-source RSS reader of the same name sold the domains to Microsoft for $5000 in August in order to host what was then called 'Microcosm.' Microsoft hopes their new service, which utilizes Windows Live ID (formerly .NET Passport) authentication, will become a 'MySpace-like forum for developers to share scripts, tools, or best practices, or even to just connect with others within the profession.'"

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181 comments

First post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812242)

Always wanted to do that.

Seems a great place to post yer code! (5, Informative)

weteko (1022621) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812262)

MATERIALS PROVIDED TO MICROSOFT OR POSTED AT ANY MICROSOFT WEB SITE

Microsoft does not claim ownership of the materials you provide to Microsoft (including feedback and suggestions) or post, upload, input or submit to any Services or its associated services for review by the general public, or by the members of any public or private community, (each a "Submission" and collectively "Submissions"). However, by posting, uploading, inputting, providing or submitting ("Posting") your Submission you are granting Microsoft, its affiliated companies and necessary sublicensees permission to use your Submission in connection with the operation of their Internet businesses (including, without limitation, all Microsoft Services), including, without limitation, the license rights to: copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, edit, translate and reformat your Submission; to publish your name in connection with your Submission; and the right to sublicense such rights to any supplier of the Services. No compensation will be paid with respect to the use of your Submission, as provided herein.

Or; post code for your pet project on this site and we will use it and sell it as our own.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (3, Insightful)

InfoHighwayRoadkill (454730) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812298)

did you expect anything different... be honest.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (5, Funny)

OldManAndTheC++ (723450) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812346)

No compensation will be paid with respect to the use of your Submission, as provided herein.

Hmmph. They should've called it "OurSpace".

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (5, Informative)

calciphus (968890) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812376)

Or, as works with EVERY public forum. "Things you post in a public space are public knowledge and use. That's WHY you posted them in a public space, right?" It's not like they'll delve into your Inbox and claim that they can use the content of messages you post. But I'm sure, in order to make MS look like the bad guy, someone is going to claim that they will. Ever notice how much stuff in Apple's forums end up in their FAQ or in future products? Isn't that why people post it there to begin with, so that others (even large corporations) can use it? Am I missing something? If you wanted to sell the source code, why would you post it for free on a community page, regardless of who owns that page?

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (3, Insightful)

binkzz (779594) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812402)

Television is a public forum. Yet you can't use what you see or record for your own benefits.

If it were true by default that what you posted, everyone could use, Microsoft wouldn't have had to include that paragraph. But it's not true, copyright laws apply even if you post in public.

Also, Microsoft doesn't just claim to be allowed to use it, they say they'll be allowed to sell it as their own without paying you. Which is just wrong.

Mod parnet up (1)

Mateo_LeFou (859634) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812744)

And furthermore, I think it's funny how they say "We don't claim to own yr stuff," and then explain how they have the right to do *every single thing that the owner of yr stuff is supposed to have exclusive right to do.

I imagine they're right about one thing: this site will be an awful lot like myspace (throngs of idiots posting drivel)

Re:Mod parnet up (-1, Flamebait)

Kjartan Albertsson (977711) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812960)

what is this "yr stuff" you're talking about? is it any good?
did you really save a lot of time by omitting 'o' and 'u'?

Re:Mod parnet up (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16813028)

Did you save a lot of time by not capitalizing the first letters of your sentences?

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (3, Informative)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812988)

television is not a forum. A forum is interactive, whereas television is a provider of information and adverts, with no immediate feedback. You are just a consumer of television.

They use the term 'interactive' to describe their news services, but thats just a menu system to move between streams. Can you add news? Nope, except by going postal and getting your very own slot.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

binkzz (779594) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813132)

Something doesn't have to be interactive to be a forum. Not all tv is a forum, but some tv is.

Do check the dictionary, it even mentions tv.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16813344)

NOT

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813398)

check a dictionary? This is /. , checking facts is as bad as rtfa, have you no shame?

Still, I don't consider tv to be a forum, I consider it to be a waste of time.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812580)

Reading some opinions on /. makes you wonder whether the poster just arrived in our world from fairyland.

What you say is of course complete and utter bullshit. Posting something in public doesn't give anyone the right to do with it what he wants. Why the fuck do you think copyright law even exists?

Next time engage your brain before you open your noisehole. Moron.

it's quite common (3, Interesting)

oohshiny (998054) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812870)

Or, as works with EVERY public forum. "Things you post in a public space are public knowledge and use.

There are actually quite a few companies that post source code and other information on the web with licenses that impose obligations on you if you as much as look at it.

For example, go to the Sun web site and look at the licenses under which they make Java documentation and source code available; read them carefully and then roll your eyes.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (2, Insightful)

luder (923306) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813116)

"Things you post in a public space are public knowledge and use.

By that logic, I would loose the rights to my photos when I upload them into Flickr, including giving them rights to use it commercially... Just because you can see it doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with it! Same with GPL projects, the code is in a public space, but when you use it into your own software you have to agree to a license.

However, MS is free to put any clause they want in their terms of use so, as long as it is clearly visible, no one who joins should complain if they see their snippets being used by them.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (4, Informative)

gregorio (520049) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813378)

By that logic, I would loose the rights to my photos when I upload them into Flickr, including giving them rights to use it commercially...
You don't "loose" rights to your code when you post it inside Microsoft's forums. You just give them permission to copy it (aka distribute your message to other users) and do other things (backup your message, allow message searching, yadda yadda yadda).

You people are all missing the point here. The license does not remove rightsfrom you, it only gives MS the right to publish it as a message on a public forum. Without these rights, they would not be able to even list your message after you pressed the submit button.

So it's pretty simple: if you send a message to their forum, you're giving them legal rights to distribute it (using the forum scripts), backup, sort, search, yadda yadda yadda.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (2, Insightful)

Kuciwalker (891651) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812414)

How are they supposed to distribute the contents of your page (including any code you post) to those who view the page if you don't grant them the rights to? What's the point of putting up information if you don't give them the right to let other people see it? As another reply noted, it's exactly like any forum.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

budgenator (254554) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813182)

When I read it I knew tha's what they were trying to say, just like when I heard what John Kerry said I knew what he was trying to say, but the fact is it's not what they are trying to say that counts, it's what they do say. What does show through is an attitude, on slashdot, the crew's attitude is that they are just like a printer, they're not really making the "magazine" we are, all they are doing is printing, if I stick in some code or an opinion, I'm publishing it and it's my responsibility to under stand all of the implications just like any other publisher, and slashdot is just the printer. Microsoft on the other hand must think of themselves as the publishers, otherwise such a restrictions on liciensing wouldn't occure to them.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (2, Interesting)

houghi (78078) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812486)


Or; post code for your pet project on this site and we will use it and sell it as our own.


What if I upload GPL code and they use it in their Vista? Can I then sue them into oblivion?

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (3, Informative)

Sr. Zezinho (16813) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812526)

Nope, when you submit your code your are licensing it to MS on their own terms, not a license of your choice. Great, eh?

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

Denney (947351) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812622)

I thought that code under GPL cannot be taken out of being GPL. IMHO, even if you post in on Microsoft's site, as long as you put the notice saying it is GPL code, Microsoft cannot use it as their proprietary code. (Of course, IANAL).

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

cheater512 (783349) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812884)

It can be dual licenced.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

RealSurreal (620564) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812910)

No. Code can be licensed under different terms to different people. If you own the copyright to it you can release it under the GPL with all that that implies and then release the same code under a completely different license with a different set of restrictions ie "you can have it for free under the GPL or you can pay me a million bucks and it's yours to do with as you wish". It's up to the person receiving the code to decide which license is best for them.

If Microsoft say "code uploaded here is done so under our license" you can't impose the GPL on them. You either choose to release it under their license or don't upload it.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

stewwy (687854) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813260)

Just a question,
If I post code which is licenced under the GPL, but is not my code, on the site does that give MS any rights other than those under the GPL
because if thats' so then that destroys the whole point of the GPL

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

vally_manea (911530) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812624)

Yeah, but what if that isn't your code to start with? ;)

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

ndogg (158021) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812650)

Doubtful. With that kind of license agreement, the only way your code will end up in Vista is if the server that's serving it has Vista installed.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812498)

so in this case the tag itsatrap is reallly appropriate, who'da thunk?

Funny joke in the top banner (1)

alexcampbell (709969) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813010)

Apparently this site will be "127.0.0.1 FOR IT PROS". This, one presumes, is what passes for clever humour in the Microsoft world.

Re:Funny joke in the top banner (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16813164)

"Localhost for pros", I don't get it? Guess they couldn't use "~/. for pros" or "${HOME} for pros", which is rather amusing in itself.

"Documents and Settings for pros" would have been inventive and funny, most Windows users wouldn't have gotten the joke but that makes it funnier.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

coolcold (805170) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813224)

What if I found some code on the web and post there? Or a friend of mine send me some code via email and grant me permission to use only, and I post it on the site, I wonder could they be sued.

Re:Seems a great place to post yer code! (1)

mulvane (692631) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813240)

What happens if I post the linux source code here?

Nothing to see here without an Live ID (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812270)

You cant even browse around without logging in. Sites which require logins for visiting should be boycotted and not promoted on Slashdot.

Re:Nothing to see here without an Live ID (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812552)

Yes, and car sellers requiring money for cars should be boycoted too. Since when Slashdot = communist?

Re:Nothing to see here without an Live ID (-1, Flamebait)

ceeam (39911) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813002)

Drink some poison, dude.

Re:Nothing to see here without an Live ID (1)

zlogic (892404) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812762)

Most warez sites require you to register (and enter a captcha) in order to view links and torrents :-P That's because otherwise bots will find the site and it will be shut down.
OTOH, posting a Vista torrent on that site would be fun :-)

Re:Nothing to see here without an Live ID (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16813192)

DIAF you thumbsucker. Boohoohoo...life is so hard with big ol' meanies making me log in all the time.

ass

Passport (1)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813252)

You cant even browse around without logging in. Sites which require logins for visiting should be boycotted and not promoted on Slashdot.

You forgot, logging in requires registering with Passport. That should not only be boycotted, the submitter should be tracked down and killed.

*shutters* (3, Interesting)

corychristison (951993) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812274)

May I be the first to point out that it is god-awfully ugly?

Mod me down if you so please, I hope to never see the light of day after seeing what I just witnessed.

Re:*shutters* (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812362)

Well, hey, it's modeled after MySpace after all...

Re:*shutters* (1)

Kuciwalker (891651) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812420)

Sites which require logins for visiting should be boycotted and not promoted on Slashdot.

Re:*shutters* (3, Insightful)

Dawsons (986350) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812558)

god damn ... the site sucks for usability as well... such a poor effort

Re:*shutters* (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812566)

They have their place on the exterior, to prevent damage to glass from flying debris, but for the control of radiation (both in and out) from the interior I prefer a combination of blinds and curtains.

KFG

No thanks. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812280)

I didn't get past the first page...
  * No Passport for me, thank you
  * The tag line is really trying to hard to be geek chic

Since when is being like MySpace a good thing? (-1, Troll)

Channard (693317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812290)

I've looked at MySpace, and it's a horrible trainwreck of stupidity - worse even than LiveJournal. I'm not sure Microsoft's endeavour should be compared to it.

Open Arms?? (5, Funny)

eclectro (227083) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812310)

I have a bunch of zer0-day sploitz I would like to share with my friends. Also, I would like to be able to stream teh l8test industrial rock on my Aggreg8 page. Will this be possible?

Re:Open Arms?? (1)

cheater512 (783349) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812880)

Yep as long as Gates can use them too.

it's got to be better than the alternative (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812314)

I mean, just about any name must be better than MicroSpace for that sort of site.

From the license (2, Informative)

towsonu2003 (928663) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812338)

"by posting, uploading, inputting, providing or submitting ("Posting") your Submission you are granting Microsoft, its affiliated companies and necessary sublicensees permission to (...) [pown all your bases]"

What the hell did you expect?

Re:From the license (0, Troll)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813100)

I would expect at a very minimum, that they should even think it is appropriate to edit your post, in any way they deem fit for marketing purposes and still put your name to it. That would with out doubt be the most digusting thing I have ever read, M$=B$ strikes again.

Yay, another "MySpace"... (1)

LokiSnake (795582) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812342)

for the teenagers that "hack" HTML, webpages that take eons to load, and endless IE-viewable pages. What a great innovation, Microsoft.

No, this one will be much better!! (2, Funny)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812504)

It will be full of sage advice and code samples from MSCEs. Plus there will be tons of great ActiveX applications!!

Yay!! Steve Ballmer is in your extended network!!

Minesweeper Certified Solitaire Expert (3, Interesting)

turgid (580780) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813056)

It will be full of sage advice and code samples from MSCEs.

We have a tester at work who is an MCSE. I've been teaching him shell scripting using bash in Linux, for which he is immensely grateful, embarrassingly so, as he bows and scrapes and calls me "Mr Unix Genius." His productivity has improved 10-fold, and now he has a new job at another company with better pay.

One Monday morning he proudly informed me that he'd spent a lot of time over the weekend reading the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide and that he'd, "copied and pasted it," so that he could, "read it on Windows." He'd spent hours copying and pasting all 800 pages from the web browser into Microsoft Word.

I asked him why he didn't just download the file. "But I want to read it on Windows."

Social networking sites (2, Insightful)

theos07 (657859) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812354)

It is as ugly as hell indeed. I think it's a good idea for Microsoft to offer such a service. Objectively though it is a bit silly that you have to login to view the page. Does anyone know of any good sites for IT networking? Please advise!!

Re:Social networking sites (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812466)

Does anyone know of any good sites for IT networking?

Well http://www.openofice.org/ [openofice.org] certainly isn't it.

Or maybe I am missing the subtle joke in your sig.

openoFice.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16813432)

Good going linking to a bible-study -site... =]

Missed an F in that URL, didn't we, Buckaroo?..

ALL YOUR CODE ARE BELONG TO US (3, Insightful)

Klaidas (981300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812370)

With THAT license, how many people do they expect to share the code?

MSFT just doesn't get it, do they? (-1, Flamebait)

mikelieman (35628) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812384)

First, they completely screwed up with win95, and missed the entire Internet thingy.

And now they prove they have no clue.

Good Luck Guys.

Re:MSFT just doesn't get it, do they? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812426)

Actually, it makes a lot of sense.

Studies by psychologists in the 1990s found that most people in the IT industry are actually nerds, geeks, and other rejects who are desperately in need of friends, but are unable to associate with anyone other than their own kind.

It is very kind and generous of MSFT to cater to our special needs by giving us our very own Myspace-Like Site.

Re:MSFT just doesn't get it, do they? (4, Insightful)

pboulang (16954) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812450)

Case in point, from the FAQ:

How do I add a signature to my posts?

See How do I add Signature to my Post? in the User Profile and Settings section.
Thank god they didn't just link to it.. that would be waaaay too internetty

Re:MSFT just doesn't get it, do they? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812494)

yes, it's not like they can afford the best and brightest, they are obviously in need for some guidance by kids running Linux in their parents basement.

Please stop renaming things! (5, Insightful)

cgenman (325138) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812406)

First it was your Hotmail ID. Then your Passport ID. Now it's your Windows Live ID.

Stop renaming stuff! It's hard enough keeping track of all of these marginally useful services already.

Re:Please stop renaming things! (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812596)

No, don't stop them now, they're just a single transform away from achieving ID of The Beast.

KFG

Re:Please stop renaming things! (2, Funny)

killjoe (766577) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812618)

Remember when everything MS made was activesomething? Then everything they made was something.net. Now everything they make will be somethinglive or livesomething.

Maybe next it will be somethingdead.

I have this theory. It goes like this. In the halls of MS there are vending machines which dispense free LSD and all MS employees eat a few tabs every day. This theory explains zune, rebranding everything every three years, fifty thousand data access libraries, and error messages such as "there is no message for this error".

Those people are on serious drugs for sure.

Re:Please stop renaming things! (1)

tclark (140640) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813096)

Cool. Where do I apply?

c0Wm (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812416)

gig in !front of [goat.cx]

I thank you 7or _your time (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812428)

need your help! an3 coders Satan's Dick And short of a miracle

awesome (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812440)

this will be great! I'm gonna have bill gates, steve jobs, linus and woz as ms-friends! this will be sweet! hell, i might even let balmer friend me

Navigation is painful (5, Insightful)

calciphus (968890) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812496)

I just logged in, and tried to find a PHP/MySQL group to join. There is no group "search" feature under the "search for a group" link. You can only browse in a very obfuscated fashion. Honestly, they'd better change the interface soon, or you won't be able to find things. Plus, requiring a Live ID means that search engines can't index...and suddenly your site is a thousand times less useful. But I bet that sweet MSN Search is going to index it! Like anyone uses that willingly.

Re:Navigation is painful (1)

weteko (1022621) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812658)

Did you find any hot chicks on there?

Re:Navigation is painful (1)

innerweb (721995) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813248)

I've noticed that most of the computers I have to fix with Viri, Trojans and adware all seem to use that msn search. I wonder...
jk..
innerweb

Linus is my hero. (0, Offtopic)

ivan kk (917820) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812518)

linus is my hero

Re:Linus is my hero. (0, Flamebait)

ivan kk (917820) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812534)

Congrats to the genius who modded this offtopic.

http://fast.info/myspace/ [fast.info]

Re:Linus is my hero. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812560)

indeed. moderators, do your job! mod him troll next time!

so its crap then! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812520)

Sounds like 10lbs o sh1t in a 5lb bag...

Already done, sort of (1)

afd8856 (700296) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812548)

Maybe I'm missing something, but arent' the planets a simplified version of a networking site? Take planetpython.org for example. Its participant write their articles in their own blogs, the planet is just a way of bringing it all together.

Re:Already done, sort of (1)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813288)

Have you ever used MySpace, Facebook, etc? The Planets are just blog aggregators; they're nothing at all like social networking sites.

ms will bash'em (1)

weespect (1026174) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812584)

okay they paid 5000 bucks for the domain, but they still got the .net domain...in 6 months microsoft will sue him for like 5 million bucks

Hi There! (5, Funny)

IchBinEinPenguin (589252) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812668)

It looks like you're trying to post something.
Would you like me to ...

Re:Hi There! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812784)

  • Ban you for mentioning/using vendors other than Microsoft, and technologies other than those belonging to Microsoft?
  • Take and use your code without due credit?
  • Provide another mediocre service for less than a year [geekzone.co.nz] ?

Re:Hi There! (1)

cheater512 (783349) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812898)

... blatantly rip off this code and call it our own?

Aggrig8 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812748)

It's like pronouncing the eight finishes the word, how very childish. What kind of loser wants to hang out on MySpace, never mind a MySpace especially for geek losers? Aggrig8, the MS networking site for 8-10 year olds males and homosexual pedophiles. Microsoft have really done themselves proud here, innovation at last!

Groups (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812792)

Someone, please create a "Free software", "FOSS", "Open source" group.
Please also add a "Unix" and "BSD" groups.

There already is a "Linux" group, please join it.

Re:Groups (2, Insightful)

TobascoKid (82629) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812926)

How???? That site is unusable. There doesn't seem to be a way to search for groups, so if there is a unix group, I can't find it (or any other group)

Tis the beginning of the end... (1)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813196)

if there is a unix group, I can't find it
First Apple loses Justin Long, now this!

Not falling for that baby ! (2, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812810)

Establish a community, get people accustomed to it, then twist them and use them to your will.

Well-known procedure. Id especially suspect that when it comes from a company that doggedly fought freedom and open source and lost.

MicroSpace (1)

6Yankee (597075) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812836)

Like, OMFG, developers, developers, developers, friend me LOL...

Re:MicroSpace (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16813228)

please, you're not making any sense at all, so why bother posting...

The Software.. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16812940)

is community server, the same software powering thedailywtf where users agree that the forum software is the real WTF. Every page is served as text/html with a XHTML 1.0 Frameset DTD, without any frames* and many users call it "unusable". So it's a perfect match for Microsoft. Microsoft probably just threw their hands up knowing that even if they wrote a system from scratch, it could never outdo community server. Thinking about it some more, I take it back. Community server is written in ASP.NET using Viewstate, nobody can ever beat Viewstate for sheer WTF-tasticness. Pffft!

* Possibly to allow for users adding iframes because MSIE doesn't support xhtml object embedding? Still, WTF?

Have to stop threatening to sue developers (2, Insightful)

quiberon2 (986274) | more than 7 years ago | (#16812954)

They will have to indicate that they will not sue any individual software developers, period, before I would venture within a thousand miles of that site.

Oh god... (3, Insightful)

cheese-cube (910830) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813030)

127.0.0.1 for pros
That is so incredibly corny.

it doesn't even make sense (4, Interesting)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813332)

"Localhost for IT pros"? "Loopback for IT pros?" Huh? I would guess they were going for "Home for IT pros", but that's just not what 127.0.0.1 means.

Re:it doesn't even make sense (1)

jasonhamilton (673330) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813362)

I was thinking more like "local resource for IT pros", but you're right, that's illogical, since the developers aren't local to it.

Is passport not dead yet (2, Insightful)

thingie (16450) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813044)

While looking through the help to see whether Microsoft can spell RDF[1] or FOAF[2] (they don't appear to), I came across this[3]:

    "Why do I need to use Passport?"
    "We chose Passport in order to help you consolidate the number of logins you have to manage."

*sigh* here was me thinking passport was dead.

[1] http://www.w3.org/RDF/ [w3.org]
[2] http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/ [xmlns.com]
[3] http://aggreg8.net/Aggreg8_Help_Pages.htm#registra tion_passport [aggreg8.net]

Re:Is passport not dead yet (1)

innerweb (721995) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813284)

Passport is not dead... Passport is undead.
Now, maybe they are trying to get little developers to get used to it, incorporate it and promote it. Sounds like a coven of vampires. Hasn't Halloween already passed us?

;-)

innerweb

It's fun deleting posts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16813222)

The morons didn't even setup the authentication right. Anyone can change or delete anyone else's posts.

Boring Home Page (2, Funny)

philsown (522368) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813256)

Isn't the appropriate response to immediately upload the NT source code that was released a few years ago? Now that I type that it doesn't seem as funny...

Boring home page. At least on myspace they try to invite you into the site with some content and "new profile" pics.

how much is this like (1)

darth_linux (778182) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813270)

sourceforge?

Is it just me, .. (4, Insightful)

greylion3 (555507) | more than 7 years ago | (#16813366)

..or does MS seem to be doing a lot of desperate things lately?

Buying hotels (the Four Seasons hotel group).
Developing an iPod-clone (Zune).
Launching what's essentially a copy of MySpace.
Removing the one-reinstall restriction from Vista.
The Vista voucher scheme (promising XP->Vista upgrades for PCs bought now).
The MS-Novell deal (which has a dozen different perspectives, but at least promoting Linux).

To me, it seems like MS is genuinely scared of becoming largely irrelevant in the not-so-distant future.
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