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PS3 and Wii — Head To Head

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the ready-fight dept.

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1up has a piece looking at the Wii vs. the PS3, running down the particulars on graphical power, online capabilities, launch titles, and control scheme. For the most part, they're siding with the PS3: "Traditionally, Nintendo's never been much for online gaming (the GameCube had two online games&ever), but Wii appears poised to finally bring Mario and Co. into the multiplayer arena. Wii will use a modified version of the DS' Wi-Fi Connection software to facilitate online matchmaking. (Most likely, you'll only be able to play against players who give you 'friend codes' first, just like with the DS.) Like the PS3, the Wii will offer online gaming free of charge."

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269 comments

Proofreading? (5, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841528)

From the article (no this is not a mistake*):

PlayStation 3

Online plan: Traditonally, Nintendo's never been much for online gaming (the GameCube had two online games&ever), but Wii appears poised to finally bring Mario and Co. into the multiplayer arena. Wii will use a modified version of the DS' Wi-Fi Connection software to facilitate online matchmaking. (Most likely, you'll only be able to play against players who give you "friend codes" first, just like with the DS.) Like the PS3, the Wii will offer online gaming free of charge. Other elements in Nintendo's online plan include WiiConnect24, a feature that allows your Wii to receive pushed content downloads even when the system is turned off, and the Wii Browser, a modified version of the Opera web browser optimized for the Wii-mote. This comprehensive online plan has one massive flaw, though: No games shipping in 2006 are expected to offer online play. Oops.

Wii

Online plan: Traditonally, Nintendo's never been much for online gaming (the GameCube had two online games&ever), but Wii appears poised to finally bring Mario and Co. into the multiplayer arena. Wii will use a modified version of the DS' Wi-Fi Connection software to facilitate online matchmaking. (Most likely, you'll only be able to play against players who give you "friend codes" first, just like with the DS.) Like the PS3, the Wii will offer online gaming free of charge. Other elements in Nintendo's online plan include WiiConnect24, a feature that allows your Wii to receive pushed content downloads even when the system is turned off, and the Wii Browser, a modified version of the Opera web browser optimized for the Wii-mote. This comprehensive online plan has one massive flaw, though: No games shipping in 2006 are expected to offer online play. Oops.


Here's the kicker:

Winner: PS3 BEST ONLINE PLAN

Um, ok.

* On my part, anyway
** The amperstand after "games" is really there. It's not an HTML glitch.

Re:Proofreading? (5, Insightful)

j00r0m4nc3r (959816) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841612)

If I was going to buy a console exclusively based on online play I would get an Xbox 360. I'm going to get a Wii because I want to play fun games with my wife and kid.

Re:Proofreading? (5, Funny)

Liselle (684663) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841630)

I saw that, too. Maybe both have us have been fooled, and this isn't really an article: it's actually a application for the job of /. editor.

Re:Proofreading and one sided article (4, Insightful)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841644)

Also, the article talks about the promising lineup of 2007 PS3 not 2006 PS3 and then compares it to the lineup of 2006 Wii not 2007 Wii. Therefore, after comparison you can only declare PS3 the winner.

Am I the only one that feels this article is too biased or unfair to the Wii?

Re:Proofreading and one sided article (5, Insightful)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841832)

Am I the only one that feels this article is too biased or unfair to the Wii?

Nope. All it really says is: "We (the author(s)) are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY excited about the PS3. Here's some boilerplate stuff about the Wii. See how the PS3 is cool?"

I'm glad they're excited, but they should probably be more upfront about it rather than pretending to have journalistic objectivity. A better solution might be to pit a couple different authors (with two different opinions) against each other. It would make for a more interesting read, at least.

Re:Proofreading and one sided article (4, Insightful)

Fozzyuw (950608) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842954)

Nope. All it really says is: "We (the author(s)) are REALLY, REALLY, REALLY excited about the PS3. Here's some boilerplate stuff about the Wii. See how the PS3 is cool?"

I agree with you. However, this day an age, journalism, with the advent of the online medium, is shifting towards opinion pieces than objective journalism. One only has to look to traditional media to see biased reporting, on many levels.

I personally attribute this to the fact that I think people are drawn to news of scandal and such in much the same say they're drawn to 'negative' news. It's more enjoyable to talk about. Afterall, why else would 'reality TV' be popular, rarely see 'good news', the explosion of online journals (blogs), etc. Women have always known this. They've been watching Soap operas forever. =P It's all about the water cooler gossip. It's not fun to debate something if everyone agrees!

Cheers,
Fozzy

Or... (3, Funny)

dolson (634094) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844712)

Maybe it says "we are REALLY REALLY REALLY excited about the Wii, but we know that the supply dwarfs the demand, so here is some negative things we can say about the Wii in hopes that people will believe it, and not show up to buy a Wii, so we have better chances of getting one ourselves."

Re:Proofreading and one sided article (5, Insightful)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843724)

Yeah. I had my suspicions when I read the summary on Slashdot, where it said that the DS only allowed you to play online with people who's friend codes you had. I guess I was just hallucinating when I was playing Mario Kart and Metroid with completely random strangers. Anything that incorrect is bound to be backed up by further nonsense.

Re:Proofreading and one sided article (1)

mrsbrisby (60242) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844450)

Also, the article talks about the promising lineup of 2007 PS3 not 2006 PS3 and then compares it to the lineup of 2006 Wii not 2007 Wii. Therefore, after comparison you can only declare PS3 the winner.
I don't know. Do I still get to count Duke Nukem Forever as a launch title for my N64?

Seems to me that it's bad taste to call something a launch title unless its actually available at launch.

Re:Proofreading? (2, Informative)

Sappharad (893163) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842430)

(the GameCube had two online games&ever)
For the record, there were three:
1. Phantasy Star Online Episode 1&2
2. Phantasy Star Online C.A.R.D. Revolution (Episode 3)
3. Homeland [gamespy.com]

Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (4, Insightful)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841576)

And I'll be lined up with five teens who are dying to get a Wii on Sunday - none of them are interested in getting a PS3, so in the end, the Wii wins.

It's the games.

Re:Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (4, Funny)

mdobossy (674488) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841660)

Is it that they aren't interested?? Or did they all get turned down for the mortgage they needed to purchase a PS3?

Re:Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842436)

They're not interested in the PS3 - grade 9, 10, and 11.

Costwise, their parents (including me for my son) can afford it, but we don't see why we should pay for a Blu-Ray drive we don't need for an HDTV we don't want (yet).

It's mostly about the games. If MSFT and Sony hadn't done the stupid DRM region thing with their Japanese games, they might have been interested, but finding out all the cool games are Japan-only is the kiss of death.

Sure, they could get mod chips, but why bother?

Re:Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (4, Insightful)

harrkev (623093) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845110)

Is it that they aren't interested?? Or did they all get turned down for the mortgage they needed to purchase a PS3?
You nailed it.

I freely admit that the PS3 is more powerful with better hardware. But... how does eye candy make a game more fun? If your character in a FPS now had individually-rendered arm hair, does that make the game somehow better? Would Daikatana be any better with greatly improved graphics? I think that we are approaching the point of diminishing returns in graphics.

The key here, though, is price. By definition, half of the US population makes average income or below. Those are the sorts of people who are MUCH more likely to pick up a Wii than a PS3. Sony has effectively alienated a full half of the population from purchasing their product. Nintendo, on the other hand, is the best bet for those whose pockets do not run over, and they are also cheap enough to be picked up as a 2nd system for people who have deep enough pockets to get a 360 or a PS3.

Overall winner: Nintendo.

I hope they trade their 360s in.. (4, Insightful)

Channard (693317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841750)

.. because that way there'll be less sweary kids on the 360's Live service. I'm still on my free month and given how many annoying trash-talking kids there are, I probably won't be buying a year's subscription to the service. I know you can mute them, but you still have to run into them first to know who they are, and rep doesn't help much. It'd be interesting to see how Sony and Nintendo tackle this. Nintendo in particular have a reputation as being family friendly. Imagine the outcry there'll be when parents discover little billy has been called a 'flaming cocktard' by some high-school kid.

Re:I hope they trade their 360s in.. (5, Funny)

soft_guy (534437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841848)

Imagine the outcry there'll be when parents discover little billy has been called a 'flaming cocktard' by some high-school kid.

This is exactly why I will not buy any of these new consoles. I can get called a "flaming cocktard" for free on Slashdot.

Re:I hope they trade their 360s in.. (4, Funny)

jbrader (697703) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842178)

You're such a flaming cocktard.

P.S. Cocktard is not covered by the FF spell checker.

Re:I hope they trade their 360s in.. (3, Funny)

Aceticon (140883) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842340)


"flaming cocktard"

Well, if you say it in a different way: "cocktard flambe'" it sounds like a french chicken dish.

Re:I hope they trade their 360s in.. (3, Informative)

normal_guy (676813) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841922)

Wii will use a system similar to the DS (and the Microsoft Games that come free with XP.) You are only able to send pre-selected text messages to people not on your friend list. For those on your friend list, full voice/whiteboard chat are enabled (if the game supports it.) Adding someone to your friend list requires an exchange of information...so the idiot factor is low. Unless you start exchanging friend codes on http://wii-are-idiots.net./ [wii-are-idiots.net.]

Re:I hope they trade their 360s in.. (2, Interesting)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843408)

I love the friends code idea. Especially for Animal Crossing - don't want people trashing my villages - and for multi-player.

Then I can ignore all the gold farmers, product sellers, and blue mouth swearers.

Re:I hope they trade their 360s in.. (2, Insightful)

assassinator42 (844848) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843858)

That's too bad, it seems Nintendo is catering to kids (well, more accurately their parents) on that. Voice chatting with random people you play against online is pretty fun. And I suppose it helps in team games.

Re:I hope they trade their 360s in.. (1, Insightful)

KeiichiMorisato (945464) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844138)

How is this catering to kids? It's catering to people who don't want to deal with fucktards who curse with every 2nd word and shout into their mic and talk about how "totally wasted" or "totally high" they are. It's catering to people who don't want idiots playing loud music on the mic and having that crap being transmitted. Even though you can mute them, why should I have to put up with that crap, when I can actually have the people I want to hear and talk to from the start?

If I play with a stranger and eventually the person seems cool, I'll add them to the list.

Re:I hope they trade their 360s in.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16844616)

Shouldn't you just be able to turn off voice chat if you're not interested in it? The friend codes seems like a bit of a complicated solution for anything other than keeping kids from handing out personal information.

Re:I hope they trade their 360s in.. (3, Interesting)

normal_guy (676813) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844586)

In my experience on the 360, only about ten percent of voice chatters have anything worthwhile to say. Everyone else is a complete idiot or worse, a griefer. The only worthwhile voice chat experiences I've had were those few times I was with a coherent squad - people already on my friends list. For team-based games, I think a radio system like the Battlefield series would work - and it's much more immersive. Point the reticule toward an approaching enemy, press a button, and your character says "Enemy humvee spotted," etc. A few other options for quick orders (get in, defend here, thanks, sorry, need help) is all you really need to coordinate in-game.

Re:Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (5, Interesting)

Jearil (154455) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842200)

I think your title hits something that the article didn't really mention: The difference between technical superiority and an actual fun system. Very very rarely is the system with the highest "stats" the winner in any console race.

I present to you:
* Nintendo DS vs. PSP - PSP processor is faster, the screen is a higher resolution, it has more function, yet bombed compared to the DS.

* Original Xbox/GC vs. PS2 - Both the original Xbox and gamecube had better graphical power than the PS2 and yet the PS2 sold a ton more units and games.

* N64 vs. PS - Granted what made the PS the winner in this case was using an optical drive for media, but the power of the N64 was higher than the PS1.

* Nintendo Gameboy vs. Sega Gamegear - I remember having a Gamegear. It was in color and had better graphics than the gameboy of the time. Yet it still died and the gameboy lived on.

It really is the games. For what I've been seeing on the PS3, everything looks done. Either I could get it on the PC/360 or it looks remarkably similar to a dozen other games I've played in the past. It's difficult to find something really exciting about the system, but the Wii seems to have that excitement. It may not look as good, but as Gabe on penny-arcade spoke about Zelda: "You'll never even think about the graphics while you're playing it".

That's what I'm hoping Nintendo can pull off with the Wii.

"You'll never even think about the graphics while (1)

dpilot (134227) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842864)

Blast, I just finished off my mod points a few minutes ago. This single line takes the cake, and says something critical about where gaming has been, is, and should be headed.

"You'll never even think about the graphics while you're playing it".

Re:"You'll never even think about the graphics whi (2, Insightful)

elcid73 (599126) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842990)

Agreed- the graphics seem to get you in the door. I spend maybe a few rare minutes observing the graphics and it tends to be during the lull in the gameplay... ie- as I'm wondering around looking for a secret item or some such.

Re:"You'll never even think about the graphics whi (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843154)

Yeah, but I'll admit to being dissapointed when I read that. I'm glad the game is fun, and I look forward to playing it, but the screenshots for the game looked pretty sweet and I was also looking forward to great Zelda graphics. If Gabe is touting the game and saying how good it is while simultaneously admitting that it doesn't look very good for a GC game, that does kind of worry me. Maybe I won't think about the graphics, but maybe I want to think about the graphics from time to time, specifically "these graphics rock!"

Re:Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844156)

N64 vs. PS: Like you said, the optical drive is the real answer. The N64 has more processing power and better graphics, but the PSX has more power in every other way, not least the ability to produce useful volumes of FMV.

Game boy vs. Game gear: Game Gear sucked down batteries like... well, you know where this sentence is going. What won the war here was battery life. Game gear obviously reached too far and fell on its face.

It's not JUST the games, although they are very important. Turbo Grafx had TONS of great games but bombed because it was too expensive. Ditto for the Saturn. Dreamcast, of course, had a ton of great games, but got killed by copyright infringement and Sony marketing.

The games are most important, but there's lots of other ways to kill a system, too.

Re:Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (1)

Fozzyuw (950608) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843032)

It's the games.

PS3 will succeed, but it'll likely just have a much slower start because it is going to have games that will make your draw drop, given they have the technical power to make them. Gameplay isn't hard to do when all you make are sequels and racing games.

Re:Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843330)

Whatever, all I know is my wallet opened to buy the Wii, and a bunch of games, and that's all the kids my son is friends with talk about.

Nobody - and I do mean nobody - is talking about the PS3, unless it's to say "man, if only they hadn't made those cool Samurai and other games Japan-only".

Hearts and minds. In the end, Heart wins.

Re:Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (1)

Fozzyuw (950608) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844380)

all I know is my wallet opened to buy the Wii, and a bunch of games,

Same here. I'm very excited for the Wii, but I admit, I'm also a Nintendo Fan over a PlayStation. I have very little interest in the PS3, but I admit that if the priced dropped to closer to $200, I'll probably buy it. I can wait 4 years while I play with my Wii *cough* and with my PC.

and that's all the kids my son is friends with talk about.

Nintendo no doubt has awesome viral marketing down. But, may I ask how old your kids are? Are they 27+ years old? Or are they in the 5-18 category? While I agree the 'talk of the town' is Wii, the PS3 has a strong following, it's just not as large this time around. Never-the-less, this has no real factor on the success / failure of a system. It's success will be proven in the first year, not the first month. I've never heard a single person talk about the 360, but it appears to be doing just fine.

WillAffleckUW

Is that UW for Univ. Washington, Wisconsin, or something else? FozzyUW => Univ. Wisconsin - Madison =)

Cheers,
Fozzy

Re:Technically, PS3 wins - Heart, Wii wins (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844564)

and that's all the kids my son is friends with talk about.

Nintendo no doubt has awesome viral marketing down. But, may I ask how old your kids are? Are they 27+ years old? Or are they in the 5-18 category? While I agree the 'talk of the town' is Wii, the PS3 has a strong following, it's just not as large this time around. Never-the-less, this has no real factor on the success / failure of a system. It's success will be proven in the first year, not the first month. I've never heard a single person talk about the 360, but it appears to be doing just fine.

The kids I'm talking about are aged 14-17.

Oh, I'm at the other UW (Washington), but I have been to your UW (Wisconsin). We're in Seattle.

Let the customers decide (4, Informative)

PIPBoy3000 (619296) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841634)

I'm getting to the point where the fanboys arguing over which system is better has gotten quite dull. When Wikipedia has to lock down [gamespot.com] their entries, things are getting silly.

Sometime in January, we'll see sales results and then someone can declare a "winner". Even that seems silly, since the two systems seem to cater to different audiences.

Heh. (1)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842000)

Something tells me they're going to be selling more Wii units than PS3s this holiday season. Who will profit most? Nintendo also, almost certainly. I'm afraid no one's going to declare a winner by January.

Re:Heh. (2, Interesting)

'nother poster (700681) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842572)

No, IBM will profit the most. They make the processors for all three next-gen consoles. No matter which console wins, IBM wins.

Re:Heh. (1)

chrismcdirty (677039) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842580)

Who will profit most?
Reports say Sony is subsidizing the cost of PS3 at a huge loss. Nintendo is selling Wii at a profit, day one. Nintendo wins with the first Wii they sell.

Re:Heh. (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844252)

Nintendo is selling Wii at a profit, day one. Nintendo wins with the first Wii they sell.

Not entirely. The profit from the first Wiis isn't really profit, it covers the R&D costs. Once they have sold a few hundred thousand (random number), then they're in the realms of pure profit.

Re:Heh. (1)

Kemanorel (127835) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843462)

I prefer this version [vgcats.com] of events. ;-)

Re:Let the customers decide (2, Informative)

Phisbut (761268) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842058)

Sometime in January, we'll see sales results and then someone can declare a "winner".
That won't even work, they won't even use the same "unit of measure". In January, Nintendo will have sold "5 million consoles" and will claim victory (although the big N really doesn't care about the fight, it's only the fanboys), while Sony will have sold "100% of their consoles" (which might as well be fewer than a million), so they'll claim victory too.

Re:Let the customers decide (1)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842418)

it is unfortunate how the "system" works, I mean assuming Nintendo makes a profit of $1 USD on each system, and Sony subsidizes the PS3 by $20 USD (I know both are gross underestimates) as far as profit goes Nintendo (assuming 5 million consoles) would have 5 million dollars and Sony, (assuming a supply of 4 hundred thousand PS3s) in the hole by $8 million. Hell, even if Nintendo gave a quarter of their consoles away in specially marked boxes of cheerios they'd still be a leg up from Sony. . .

Either way though, I'll have them all once the price is right.

Actually, now that I think about it why don't Sony or Nintendo just covertly set up their own eBay auctions, dedicated 10% of their stock to these auctions and then have a completely justified sale price of upwards to 200% or 300% the regular price tag?

Re:Let the customers decide (1)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842960)

Lol. This article is coming to a Slashdot near you.

Most Promising Software Lineup (4, Insightful)

DumbWhiteGuy777 (654327) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841654)

I think this is all depending on who you ask, really. The Wii's whole approach was to appeal to other types of people than hardcore gamers, and it looks like the PS3's whole lineup is for hardcore gamers. So, it's a little bit like comparing apples and oranges, I think.

Re:Most Promising Software Lineup (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841842)

Not sure about the Wii yet, but so far, the PS3 only looks like it's targetting people with large quantities of disposable income. Their release games offer very little different than the 360 (which admittedly is targeted more towards the hardcore gamer) other than 2 games, and some of the initial reports refer to poor ports and bad framerates. Of course, this could just the the same FUD was occurred during the xbox launch. I think we'll need to wait at least 6 months before a proper comparisone of the consoles can be done.

Re:Most Promising Software Lineup (1)

HolyCrapSCOsux (700114) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842054)

or Comparing Grape Juice to Wine (The alcoholic beverage, not the Windows emulation thingie).

Re:Most Promising Software Lineup (1)

Tellarin (444097) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842140)


So apples are better. I mean, if they are the Wii in the comparison. :)

Re:Most Promising Software Lineup (2, Insightful)

miyako (632510) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844214)

It definitely seems like that was the plan by both Nintendo and Sony. What I find kinda funny though is that nintendo is that most of the hardcore gamers I know (myself included) are more interested in the Wii than the PS3. Now, that's not to say that hard core gamers might not also want a PS3 (I want one very much- but not quite enough to wait in line- I'll put down my $700 as soon as I can walk into best buy/eb games/gamestop and buy one easily) - but hardcore gamers are following what each company is doing, and see the potential to take innovation in a new direction for this generation.
On the other hand, a lot of casual gamers that I talk to don't seem too interested in the Wii. Most casual gamers haven't even been playing video games for longer than a generation or two, so nintendo isn't a major brand for them. They seem to think "wii is teh ghey" and be really focused on the PS3.
Of course, this still works out well for Nintendo and badly for Sony, since it's the hardcore gamers who will fork over merry bundles of cash for games - while casual gamers will be averse to the idea of spending more than a couple hundred to play the newest football game.

Who writes this shit? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841680)

Most likely, you'll only be able to play against players who give you "friend codes" first, just like with the DS.


I don't have a single friend code in my DS and still can play online against other people. You don't see their codes, but you don't need them to play online. They're only useful if you want to play against specific people.

Maybe the author should do some research instead of pulling "facts" out of thin air.

Re:Who writes this shit? (2, Informative)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841790)

EGM Staff.

So I'm assuming we can all blame Dan Hsu.

Biased much? (5, Informative)

chrismcdirty (677039) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841804)

I like how the writer assumes that friend codes will be involved, and completely missed the whole concept of them. You can play anyone in most games without a friend code, but you'd have to settle for random matchmaking. Animal Crossing is the only game I can think of off the top of my head that required a friend code.

And I especially like how he says Nintendo is entering the world of multiplayer gaming. First, they've had the WiFi Connection running for more than a year. Second, just because they haven't participated much in online multiplayer gaming, he ignores all of their other great multiplayer and party games. The way I see it, online games are second fiddle to offline multiplayer. I'd rather be together with my friends, but if that can't happen, we resort to using the internet to play together.

Wii Numbers (2, Informative)

goodenoughnickname (874664) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842168)

He shouldn't have to assume. According to a video tour of the interface from IGN, rather than have a new code for each game the Wii will have an address book full of "Wii Numbers". If you have someone's Wii system number you can play games with them online, send them messages and Miis, and all that good stuff.

Re:Biased much? (4, Insightful)

anlprb (130123) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842270)

One thing I do not understand is why Friend Codes are so hated. They do exactly what Nintendo wants. Keep their kid safe image. With friends codes, you only play with the yahoos who you KNOW PHYSICALLY. There isn't much chance of getting caught with a predator when he doesn't know your friend code or name. There is no chat, no way to get heavy breathing over the DS. It allows friends to play and parents to feel safe that little Jill can be playing with her friends over the internet and they don't have to worry about looking to censor it. It works PERFECTLY for kids. Friends can play friends and the wierdos don't know who you are. And yes, I know there are web sites that allow you to put friends codes out there. But, you have to do that yourself and if you are doing that, you can use a computer and a chat room too. At that point, a DS game is the least of the parents' worries.

The problem is that not all of us are kids (2, Insightful)

jchenx (267053) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843892)

There are a lot of people that do want more than Friend Codes. They want a true matchmaking experiencing, without canned chat, which is what's been available on Xbox Live, PC multiplayer, PS2/PS3 online service, etc. for years.

As we all know, though, that opens up a huge can of worms: griefers, immaturity, and predators. Obviously it's not an easy thing to solve. But I wouldn't say Friend Codes solves it either, since it basically eliminates the features many people want. It's like cutting off a finger, when a bandaid will do.

I think what a lot of us would like is a Friend Codes system for the kids, and then something else for the rest of us. That's what other systems do. Xbox Live does have a ton of features to protect Kids during on-line play, it's just that most of us don't know about it (I imagine most Slashdotters don't have kids yet). Worse yet, many parents may not know they exist. That's one thing Nintendo could do a lot better, but instead, it appears that they've chosen to treat everyone like a child.

Personally, I don't mind that too much, since I'm not a big fan of multiplayer in general. However, there are millions that do care ...

Re:The problem is that not all of us are kids (1)

randyest (589159) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844960)

You're confused. You can still play DS (and presumably Wii) games online with random or skill-based matchmaking without any friend code use at all. You just can't voice chat or text chat (other than canned messages) with an opponent unless you have their friend code.

Where's the problem with that?

Re:Biased much? or Why Friends R001 (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844844)

One thing I do not understand is why Friend Codes are so hated. They do exactly what Nintendo wants. Keep their kid safe image. With friends codes, you only play with the yahoos who you KNOW PHYSICALLY.

Plus, if you meet someone playing randomly and they're cool, you can always swap friend codes with them.

Kind of like Diablo II - except without all the spam chat.

Multiplayer != online play (5, Insightful)

Phisbut (761268) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841870)

TFA says :
but Wii appears poised to finally bring Mario and Co. into the multiplayer arena.

That's strange, I remember playing Mario Kart in multiplayer mode, with friends, in the same living room. Oh, and I had Super-Smash-Brothers Melee too, multiplayer, same living room.

Heck, Nintendo has been making multiplayer games decades ago with Mario Bros.

Yep, your old games still work-Sony promises full backward compatibility with all PS1 and PS2 games
Funny... that's not what I heard... [slashdot.org]

Re:Multiplayer != online play (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842032)

Heck, Nintendo has been making multiplayer games decades ago with Mario Bros.

That was fun. Far more so when it was brought into SMB3. Timing your button press right to force a battle on your opponent's turn, stealing his extra-life cards and stealing his go. Happy days...

Re:Multiplayer != online play (1)

SoapDish (971052) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842490)

I've also played Mario Kart (DS) online. I didn't like it as much as being in the same room.

Pointless Comparison (1)

bateleur (814657) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841876)

Next week: 1UP compares apples with oranges!

Re:Pointless Comparison (5, Funny)

revlayle (964221) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842090)

Apples: Tart, high acidity, the skin is relatively non-edible, the #1 fruit for breakfast juice.

Oranges: Tart, high acidity, the skin is relatively non-edible, the #1 fruit for breakfast juice.

WINNER: Apples - Great in pie!

OOPS... did I forget to proofread? ;)

Ho hum. (3, Funny)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841878)

Re:Ho hum. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16842154)

That video rocks!

there are plenty of wii games (4, Informative)

cowscows (103644) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842098)

I won't be surprised if the PS3 ends up with more games than the Wii, but the article seems a bit unfair to nintendo in terms of games. An example being that they talk about Madden specifically for the PS3, but didn't bother to mention that it'll also be available for the Wii (customized for the controller even). Instead just panning the Wii for its lack of third party games.

They only listed seven Wii games, while Nintendo's website has a list of 30 that will be available within 5 weeks of launch. That's a pretty damn impressive lineup, especially compared to what we're used to from Nintendo.

While we're being Completly Non-Biased (1)

Dr. Eggman (932300) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842182)

We might as well discuss this factual article that declares Nintendo is(are) the Democrats as Sony is the GOP [twitchguru.com]

Totally Non-biased : Hilarious :: Factual : Ludicrous

This 1up article reads like it was written by someone in need of adderall. It jumps from thought to thought, often talking almost exclusivly about the other console in the wrong space before declaring a winner seemingly completly against their own reasoning, only to end abruptly with no final overall comparison.

This is kind of a stupid article. (5, Insightful)

Tarlus (1000874) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842184)

You have to keep in mind that, as one other Slashdotter just said, 1up is comparing apples and oranges.

The PS3 takes the cake with graphics because that was their goal. The best graphics hardware was not Nintendo's goal.

The Wii takes the cake with controls because that's what Nintendo's goal was... Sony instead chose to remain somewhat conservative by continuing to use its tried-and-true PSX controller layout.

So of course each one is going to win in each of its given categories, because it's the opposite of what the other company wanted to do with their respective console.

...And what's this about "extra functionality?" The PS3 plays PS2 and PS1 games?
NEWS FLASH: The Wii is capable of playing games from NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, TurboGrafix, Genesis, and probably more...
And the PS3 can play Blu-Ray movies? Woop-dee freakin' doo. I don't know about everybody else, but I'm going to buy a gaming console to play games. If I want to watch movies, I'll buy a movie player.

Re:This is kind of a stupid article. (1)

Alamoth (927972) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842488)

But what if you want to PLAY GAMES and WATCH MOVIES?!?!?!

Then what will you do? Will you buy a movie player and buy a gaming console. I had a similar question when I wanted a portable gaming system and I wanted an MP3 player that could display images and play video.

Then the Playstation Portable solved my dilemma.

Why should you go out and buy multiple tools to do the job of one tool, it's inefficient.

Re:This is kind of a stupid article. (3, Insightful)

chrismcdirty (677039) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842696)

I find an MP3 player that is 6 inches long, has an 8 hour battery life, and a maximum capacity of 2-4GB inefficient.

Re:This is kind of a stupid article. (3, Insightful)

SoapDish (971052) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842706)

If the PS3 plays Blu-Ray the same way PS2 played DVD, you would need a seperate player.

Many times, having multiple tools to do the job of one tool is more efficient and more useful.

Re:This is kind of a stupid article. (1)

'nother poster (700681) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842752)

Why should you go out and buy multiple tools to do the job of one tool, it's inefficient.

Oh, Spock. We humans aren't logical. You should know that by now.

Re:This is kind of a stupid article. (1)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842968)

Why should you go out and buy multiple tools to do the job of one tool, it's inefficient.

Jack of all trades. Master of none.

Just because a Leatherman has screwdrivers doesn't mean you can use them on cars, or plumbing, or anything that requires high torque. You keep your Leatherman, I'll keep my 88 piece Craftsman set.

Re:This is kind of a stupid article. (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845108)

Just because a Leatherman has screwdrivers doesn't mean you can use them on cars, or plumbing, or anything that requires high torque. You keep your Leatherman, I'll keep my 88 piece Craftsman set.

Well you take the Leatherman when you're going out (not to a job site) because it's smaller and more portable, even though it doesn't do everything great. The Craftsman set stays in the garage for when your working on your car. Just like you might have a mobile jack-of-all-trades device, but when you're sitting at home it makes sense to have a superior stand-alone device for each task.

Re:This is kind of a stupid article. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16843696)

How many games are really available on virtual console? I mean really. I know for a fact that some of my favorite classic games won't make it, just because the company that made it is now defunct, or they just won't bother putting it on the Wii. I've seen the launch list for Wii, and it's pretty weak. Now ps3 is backwards compatible with thousands of playstation titles since 1994, right out of the box. This has an added bonus of not forcing me to re-purchase the games I already own.

Re:This is kind of a stupid article. (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844240)

Now ps3 is backwards compatible with thousands of playstation titles since 1994, right out of the box.

My Xbox is compatible with thousands of titles for 16-bit and older systems, though you have to hack it to get it that way. Upgrade your drive and torrent some REN rom archives and provided you can find supported emulators, you can have every game for every system 16 bit and older :)

Meanwhile, my PS2 lets me play the PS1 and PS2 games, almost without exception. PS3 lacks an R3000, so emulating the PS1 will probably be significantly less reliable than in the PS2.

Keep in mind... (1)

Tarlus (1000874) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844530)

The "weak" list of Virtual Console games is just what's going to be available at launch. They will add more as time progresses.

Also, nobody is forced to re-purchase the games they already own. If you already have an NES, SNES, et cetera, then you probably already own the games that you'd want on those systems... It's not like you're required to buy those same games all over again. If there are games you don't already own, then you can purchase them and play them on the Wii.

Furthermore, if the PS3 is backwards compatible with the PS2 and PS1 games that you already own, then presumably you'd already own a PS2 or PS1... Thus rendering the PS3's backwards compatibility as more of a novelty than a system-seller.

Power Glove? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842366)

I wouldn't give props to the Wiimote until people actually get some experience with it over time.

Don't forget how successful the Nintendo Power Glove wasn't. Personally, I think that's a shame because I like the idea of moving towards a more VR environment where you use real gestures to do stuff, but it flopped in the market. This baby step in the same direction may fare better... or not.

Re:Power Glove? (3, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843046)

The power glove flopped because it was an expensive add-on and there were basically no games designed for it, so it was a glove that had to somehow act like a Nintendo controller. I never had one (see price), but from what I heard it was fun to play Punch-Out with and that was about it. The NES was really not a great system to try innovative motion-sensing control schemes on, considering how few NES games even used all 8 binary game pad directions. Funny, because even a decade later I was reading about hobbiests praising the power glove for actually being a pretty good glove that could do things like detect how far you had curled each finger that other similarly priced gloves couldn't do. So basically total overkill.

The Wiimote is built into the console and is the foundation of Wii gameplay, is cheaper if you want extras, and is matched to a system capable of doing something useful with the nuanced input it is getting. I completely agree that it's appropriate to wait and see how it feels after using it a while before passing judgement good or bad. I just disagree that history gives me reason to doubt.

P.S. speaking of failed Nintendo add-on controllers, I don't hear many people mention whatever the hell they called that ridiculous light-bazooka for the SNES. Seriously, it was the size of a small shoulder-fired rocket launcher and was intended to be held the same way. I don't know what the hell that was about. A relative accidentally bought me a game that needed it, so I never played it, making it only a slightly better gift than Donkey Kong 3 was.

Re:Power Glove? (2, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844096)

I had one. Its key failing was that it was a 3D input device for a 2D system. Which is not very useful when you think about it.

Mattel & Nintendo made a big deal about how you could actually turn the steering wheel in Rad Racer, or punch in Punch Out. While I never tried Punch Out, the former wasn't actually true. The Power Glove had a "center" that you calibrated for. Any time you moved your hand away from the virtual center, your character/car moved. To run/jump/accelerate you flexed your fingers instead of pressing buttons.

The result was that you could clench your fist in Rad Racer, and pretend like you were turning a steering wheel. In reality, you were just moving to each side of the virtual center. The rotation of your hand played almost no role. (Even though the glove could detect it!) Most other games were finger twitching frenzies. My siblings and I always ended up using the joypad on the top of the glove because we couldn't execute some tricky maneuver.

Ha! I got the U-Force (1)

norminator (784674) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844274)

I didn't have a Power Glove, I bought a U-Force... Nevermind that when I got to the store, it cost %50 more than I had thought it would, I bought it anyway... See my previous post on buying the CDi. [slashdot.org]

The U-Force was cool, but games, as well as the console itself, were not designed for it. You had to set a bunch of DIP switches differently for each game. The manual actually encouraged you to experiment with different switch settings for different games -- that was scary, there wasn't any type of guide or information on what each switch did.

The U-Force was fun, but I kept hitting it when I played Punch-Out. They had a T-bar handle thing for playing Rad Racer, and that was OK, but not as good as a steering wheel controller would have been, and playing it without the T-bar was tough, and tiring (you had to hold your hands up in the air in the same position for a long time... not really fun).

The Wii is different. The console and the games are built specifically for the Wiimote. No DIP switches, no guessing for yourself how to play a game if the manual doesn't specifically talk about the settings and controls for that game. The controller is simple and elegant. The games are designed to let you move, but I'm sure you can get by in most games with small motions, so you won't wear yourself out, or look really stupid. Not to mention that everyone who buys a Wii will know how it works... noone knew what the heck the U-Force was, because I'm the only one who bought it west of the continental divide. I think the Wii will be very successful. This is no Power Glove, U-Force, or Virtual Boy. This is the new flagship product, so they're putting everything behind it to make it successful.

Re:Power Glove? (1)

Dance_Dance_Karnov (793804) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844344)

oh you mean the MATTEL power glove?

PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. Wii (4, Insightful)

ConfusedSelfHating (1000521) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842440)

It's not a competition between just the Wii and the PS3. In fact I would say that there are very few people who are deciding between those two systems. The PS3 and the Wii are just too far apart. You are willing to pay for high definition graphics or you are not. You either want the traditional controller scheme or you love the idea of the Wii controller. I would suggest that the competition is Wii vs. Xbox 360 and PS3 vs. Xbox 360.

First, the people who buy a PS3 before Christmas are going to be hardcore Playstation fans. The PS3 is in such short supply and costs so much, it will not be a casual purchase. Even if you're rich, you will have to track one down or pre-order it. The Wii is half the price of the PS3 and there will be an ample supply of them because Nintendo doesn't have production problems.

A price sensitive gamer will ignore the PS3. The Xbox 360 will become more affordable once Microsoft cuts it's price. Even with a price cut, the Xbox 360 will be more expensive than the Wii. But it won't be twice the price. Meaning that someone who is willing to pay for a Wii doesn't have to pay that much more for an Xbox 360. It comes down to consumer choice.

A gamer looking for high definition graphics will be comparing the PS3 and the Xbox 360. The Wii is limited to 480p, so someone who wants HD will ignore it. A gamer must decide whether they want to pay $100 to $200 extra for the PS3. There are certainly Xbox 360 games with high quality graphics. We will have to wait and see how PS3 games look.

I think that Xbox 360 demand is pretty high in the US. I only say this because there are deals being offered in Canada that are not being offered in the US. Maybe Americans tend to spend more on Christmas than Canadians.

Re:PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. Wii (0)

Kengou (996204) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844136)

I must be one of the "few" people deciding between PS3 and Wii. I won't buy 360 because it's made by Microsoft (hence it must suck). I had a ps1 and ps2 and loved both of them. I do want the high quality graphics of the ps3 and I can live with a standard controller layout, but the price is a little high (I can afford it but who wants to pay $700 bucks for anything unless they're serious?). However I'm intrigued by the Wii. My last nintendo console was the SNES which was fine, but I didn't care for the N64 or the Cube (I must be one of the only people I know who hates Smash Bros and current gen Zelda games). I'd get a Wii if I knew for sure it wouldn't be all kiddie games, or if I could get some new-gen stuff like Virtua Fighter 5 for Wii. But because I can't I'm really torn between which console to get. I may end up just sticking to the PC.

Re:PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. Wii (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 7 years ago | (#16845094)

I would suggest that the competition is Wii vs. Xbox 360 and PS3 vs. Xbox 360.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Those with the money to spend and already living in HD land will not tolerate the lower-res of the Wii for the majority of their gaming. I wouldn't. I can't stand watching things in low-res anymore.

Those without the money to spend on high-def will not tolerate the price point of the PS3.

Who wins? Everyone and no one. I do feel the PS3 will be around longer, but you can afford to spend $250 to enjoy your Wii and replace it in three years!

SIXAXIS Revolutionary? (1)

MeanderingMind (884641) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842576)

Speculation about their copycatting Nintendo aside, their controller is hardly revolutionary. Here's why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep8DRXJpA9Q [youtube.com]

That's right, you could do exactly what they're doing now with the original Warhawk on your PS1 back in the early 1990s. This isn't something new. It may have been innovative then, but I don't think we can apply words such as "revolutionary" to it now.

The article strikes me as being written by someone who's high on hype for both systems, and hasn't taken a single grain of salt since E3. This is the kind of thing I could write with minimal research in about an hour. Heck, we here at slashdot write extensive monologues from our gut all the time. The only difference here is they make money off theirs... ...damn it. What I am doing telling you people this for free?

Re:SIXAXIS Revolutionary? (1)

mgabrys_sf (951552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842880)

Oh you mean like this "revolutionary" controller from Nintendo?:

http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/733/733464/img_3 926199.html [ign.com]

In Wii's defense, I can't stand non-symetrical dual joystick controllers, so it's nice to see them using Sony as a model.

Re:SIXAXIS Revolutionary? (1)

MeanderingMind (884641) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844468)

That isn't a revolutionary controller, no. Not even Nintendo claims it to be, hence "Classic Controller". The revolutionary controller lauded in the article and elsewhere is the remote.

My post did not slight the SIXAXIS because of any notion Sony copied Nintendo (Quote: "Speculation about their copycatting Nintendo aside") but because they hyped the SIXAXIS as something new, innovative and revolutionary when really it had all been done over 10 years ago.

Attacking Nintendo for being unrevolutionary with a controller specifically designed to be unrevolutionary is as ridiculous as attacking Sony for branding their products with their brand name.

In Wii's defense, I can't stand non-symetrical dual joystick controllers, so it's nice to see them using Sony as a model.


Which is exactly the point. The "Classic Controller" is made to cater to you, me and all the people who played with the DualShock. Much like other companies adapted Nintendo's designs when they were the norm, Nintendo is simply doing what players will find familiar and accessible.

DVD player (1)

Masque Noir (924309) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842584)

FTFA: "The Wii also provides full backward compatibility with GameCube games (a small panel on the console's side lifts up to reveal four controller ports), but doesn't actually play DVDs (unlike originally announced). "

sigh... So since how long do we know that you actually need an add-on to play DVD on the Wii?

Re:DVD player (1)

Kazzahdrane (882423) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843088)

How long have we known the Wii simply doesn't support DVD playback? There is no "add-on" anymore, there hasn't been for a while. In fact, Nintendo are bringing out a new version of the console next year in Japan that will play DVDs (either that or a software update that you'll pay for on their Wii Shop Channel, they've not been very specific yet).

Wii Sports? (1)

ludomancer (921940) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842788)

Is the Wii's pack-in game Wii Sports not going to support online multiplayer? I was under the impression that it was. Would be a shame if not.

Re:Wii Sports? (1)

mgabrys_sf (951552) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842944)

Correct - it doesn't have online play. They players don't have legs either some of the time - but it's not about game graphics depicting legs - it's about the gameplay:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/745/745708p1.html [ign.com]

Re:Wii Sports? (1)

Kazzahdrane (882423) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843134)

No, no Wii launch titles support online multiplayer (unless Nintendo drop an announcement in the next week). This is my theory for why Metroid Prime 3 was pushed back to next year - they might be adding online functionality.

Re:No online Launch Titles. (1)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843164)

It does not. I agree it really is a shame. This could have sold another launch system, just so I could golf with my dad online.

The System will be online Day 1 for VC titles and the WiiConnect Channels, but the first title online will be the Pokemon game which releases December in Japan.

Wii and PS3 aren't competitors (1)

gamer4Life (803857) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843404)

This time around the Wii and PS3 aren't even competitors. People who want amazing graphics, vast potential, and next generation disk formats will choose the PS3, if they can afford it.

People who love Nintendo games, a child-friendly console at a lower cost will choose the Wii.

It's like comparing a Toyota Yaris to a Lexus... who will win? Different class, different customers.

On the other hand, the XBox 360 will compete mainly with the PS3, since they are around the same price range. Most people who buy Microsoft will choose the XBox 360 premium package, with the hard drive, but for an extra $100 - less than the cost of two games, you get Blu-Ray, free online play, a faster processor, Linux, etc.... these two consoles are much more similar in price than certain people would have you think.

Yea, but does it run..? (1)

nephridium (928664) | more than 7 years ago | (#16843636)

The PS3's supposed to be able to run Linux [wikipedia.org] . Haven't yet come across an article showing this though. As of yet, Sony's official support page [playstation.com] is essentially blank and the PS3's "official" Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 distro hasn't been released. Imho this ability of running your own OS and software to harness the PS3's power would be the only reason to justify its price tag. Think of what people could do with it - in fact it would be a Slashdotter's dream (if only it wasn't Sony who manufactured it.. ;): a gaming console that runs Linux and yes, you could even build a Beowulf cluster with these. On top of that you could run Doom, Quake, vi, Wine, Firefox, [insert cliche geek software here], you name it!

Now, where this thing really gets interesting is when people start writing emulators for the PS3, specifically XBox (360) and Wii emulators - it does sport a Cell processor running @ 3.2GHz. In the event that a bunch of dedicated fanatics conjure up an emulator that would run Wii games on the PS3 (initially sans the nunchak support, I guess) Nintendo would more or less have to sue Sony, no? Would Sony have to retract their support for open operating systems?

Given of course that Sony sticks by their word and allows other OSes to run on their new little toy, that is.

(I originally posted this into the the PS3 poll, but seeing as the PS3 could potentially run Wii games with an adequate emulator it actually fits for this "feature comparison" article as well)

Re:Yea, but does it run..? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844320)

Think of what people could do with it - in fact it would be a Slashdotter's dream (if only it wasn't Sony who manufactured it..

That's one issue. The other issue is that it has only 256MB of memory. That's enough to be a media player, or a mythtv frontend, or play a relatively simple game. It's not enough to play a big PC-type game on linux (like, say, the latest first person shooter) without swapping. It's not enough to use the thing as a PC without swapping.

If it had 512MB of memory and was made by someone else, I'd buy one.

I can build a pretty decent PC for $600 and I don't give one tenth of one shit about Blu-Ray.

1up is not a gaming site any more. (1)

kinglink (195330) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844262)

It's a bitch site. I've read 4 reviews on the site now. Not only were 3 given scores with little reasoning in the review, but all the scores are "hater" scores. They just don't like games or just don't want to review games on anything and instead trash everything at least 1 point lower than they should be.

This article is awful. They compare two consoles that shouldn't be compared. The PS3 is 600 dollars, the Wii is 250. It's like comparing a Ford GT and a Vette Z06, who gives a shit who wins if one is double the price?

Since when is the Wii's online a worse idea? news, Weather, and downloadable retro games. As well as getting new and future games built for it that are also downloadable. The Ps3 hasn't even explained half the systems it has, the systems arn't even ready until friday... or maybe later. And unlike the 360 doesn't have an actual online system (you'll log onto the Sony server, but they don't support the servers for games, so every game has to do it by themselves, that's a lot of work.)

Extra functionality, they just meantion gamecube games? I guess they don't believe you'll be able to retro game at all with every Nintendo home console system, and sega's gensis and the Turbo Grafix 16? But let's meantion blu-ray, and Ps2 and PS1 BC? Then we'll talk about the downloadable games later. Except it's a major feature of the Wii?

And then of course they conviently ignore the 360 so the ps3 wins everything. Except for the fact, why would I buy a PS3 if I had a 360? All those games and features they claim the PS3 have, is trumped by stuff the

Bottom line is I'm wondering what sony had to pay for that article because it's incredibly biased, and by ignoring the 360 it just become mindless rantings. Of course that requires use to believe 1up has cred, which after reading the site for an hour not many people should believe.

Huh? (1)

nEoN nOoDlE (27594) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844292)

Where's the price-performance comparison? I think that's a bit more important for some people than some of the other categories. Or how about the "innovation" category? Of course for over double the price, one console is going to have better extra functionality and better system specs. As pretty much everyone has said so far, this article is very biased. Everyone who's buying a Wii knows it's not the most powerful system. I'm buying it because this generation it seems Nintendo has done everything right, and Sony is doing everything wrong.

Why the illusion of a controversy? (4, Insightful)

OldeTimeGeek (725417) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844608)

Why not "Ferrari vs. Hundai, a side-by-side comparison?" It makes just about as much sense.

The PS3 and Wii are aimed at two different markets - the PS3 is definitely not aimed at the cost-conscious gamer (why buy an HD-ready system if you can't afford HDTV) and the Wii is never going to please the people who want high-end, graphic intensive games, so comparing them feature-for-feature is useless. People who can't afford a PS3 won't get one. People who aren't interested in a Nintendo won't get one. People who can afford a PS3 may also get a Wii. For most people, it isn't a binary decision, so why the illusion of controversy?

1Up Is Awful (3, Insightful)

Hazrek (900706) | more than 7 years ago | (#16844884)

Please stop linking to 1Up. I come to Slashdot to read interesting articles (haha), not the ridiculous grade-school crap that 1Up consistently posts.
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