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iPod Seat-Back Video Coming To Flights

kdawson posted more than 7 years ago | from the world's-biggest-iPod-accessory dept.

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cameronk writes, "Apple announced partnership agreements with Air France, Continental, Delta, Emirates, KLM, and United that will let you display video from your iPod on the screen of the seat in front of you. Plus, the connectors charge iPods throughout the flight. This will be great for inter-continental flights where even my iPod Nano runs out of juice. I wonder how the airlines are going to keep inappropriate video (i.e. porn or even just movies like "Snakes on a Plane" or "Alive") from appearing on the seat-back displays."

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Boeing... (5, Funny)

CokeBear (16811) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840630)

Boeing: The world's largest iPod accessory manufacturer.

747: The world's largest iPod accessory.

Re:Boeing... (2, Interesting)

oskay (932940) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841588)

Are you sure [timesonline.co.uk] about that?

Re:Boeing... (2, Interesting)

hurting now (967633) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842142)

So it would be the largest commercially available product... and the warship would in essence be a government funded i-pod accessory, right?

Yes, please! (1, Interesting)

BWJones (18351) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840632)

I wonder how the airlines are going to keep inappropriate video (i.e. porn or even just movies like "Snakes on a Plane" or "Alive") from appearing on the seat-back displays."

That's funny as I was wondering the same thing when Apple's press announcement appeared in my inbox. Of course the issue of other movies like those you mentioned should not even be an issue as it is content that the user has loaded on their own iPods (and you should not be looking at your neighbors content anyhow). As to porn and other questionable content, this really comes down to etiquette and if there are those on the flight that will display such content where others may see it (like kids), they are likely pissing people off for other reasons. All told, this is a great idea and I'd rather have to deal with other people's movies than having to listen to them talk on their cell phones (Please! FAA, Nnnoooooooo!) or worse. Flying anywhere is becoming more and more onerous these days and at the very least, having airlines support ways to charge laptops or iPods during long flights would be a huge benefit as Empower outlets are pretty hard to find on many flights in coach and sometimes even in first or business class.

I've had to deal [utah.edu] with [utah.edu] enough [utah.edu] problems [utah.edu] flying [utah.edu] anyhow [utah.edu] again [utah.edu] and again [utah.edu] and again [utah.edu] and anything that will keep people quiet and minding their own business is a good thing.

Re:Yes, please! (1)

HeavenlyBankAcct (1024233) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840778)

I wonder how the airlines are going to keep inappropriate video (i.e. porn or even just movies like "Snakes on a Plane" or "Alive") from appearing on the seat-back displays."

There's never been any sort of technological advancements to stop people from saying "I HAVE A BOMB" or "I AM A TERRORIST" on airplanes, either, but you don't see it happen too often these days. A combination of self-regulation and the fear of indefinite detainment will probably keep people from screwing around with 'inappropriate material' on airplanes in any way, shape, or form.

Re:Yes, please! (4, Insightful)

brusk (135896) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840964)

Pretty much the same way they keep your from looking at Penthouse centerfolds or playing porn on your mini DVD player. Social pressure plus, I'd assume, a polite (at least initially) request from the crew. In this case, it works. There's nothing new here in this respect.

Re:Yes, please! (4, Funny)

El Torico (732160) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841122)

Video iPod - $250
Label Maker - $27
Scaring the crap out of unsuspecting passengers with the new "pilot's view display" and footage from the nose of a cruise missle - Priceless.

Re:Yes, please! (1)

CrazyTalk (662055) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841134)

How is this different from bringing porno mags onboard, which you can do now, and having people look over you shoulder at them? Not at all - it's a non-issue.

Re:Yes, please! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841170)

"they are likely pissing people off for other reasons"

They are also breaking the law (in the united states).

Yes it is against the law to show minors porn in the US. As a plane is considered a 'public' place as far as that goes you hopefully woudl be chaged, jailed, and ass raped.

Re:Yes, please! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841316)

As to porn and other questionable content, this really comes down to etiquette and if there are those on the flight that will display such content where others may see it (like kids), they are likely pissing people off for other reasons.

Yeah, it's not a particularly strange issue, and they can already handle this sort of thing today. If you're sitting next to a ten-year-old girl and her mom, and you pull out the latest issue of Hustler and start drooling over it, they have ways of handling it.

The basic rule is presumably: if passenger A is bothering passenger B, and if B is not just acting like a freak, then A has got to stop.

Re:Yes, please! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841374)

I've had to deal with enough problems flying anyhow again and again and again and anything that will keep people quiet and minding their own business is a good thing.

Bitch much? I am sorry every plane doesn't have big fluffy first class or business class seats for you to spread out and enjoy. Would you like us to arrange some sort individual seating for you? How about we just keep people below a certain income level off your plane? I swear nothing about flying pisses me off more than self-righteous, over-indulgent twits who think everything should be catered to them.

Privacy Filters? (3, Informative)

dsginter (104154) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840646)

Just a hunch. [3m.com]

Charge iPods? (-1)

lbmouse (473316) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840656)

Plus, the connectors charge iPods throughout the flight.

Personally, I prefer to not divert power from the plane's engines.

I can watch movies from the safety of my couch.

Re:Charge iPods? (1)

SetarconeX (160251) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840760)

Are you kidding? The last movie I saw on an airplane was the Shaggy Dog remake...

If I'm going to plunge to earth from a mile above, I want to make damn sure that I'm watching a movie I picked. Or at least, not Shaggy Dog.

Re:Charge iPods? (4, Funny)

Secrity (742221) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840940)

"Personally, I prefer to not divert power from the plane's engines.

MY GOD, I had NO idea that iPods use enough power to tax a jetliner's engines. Do they require 3 phase power, or will they work from US standard 120/240 volt split phase power? How much do they cost to run for one month, assuming 6 hours of use a day and 10 cents per KWh?

Re:Charge iPods? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841144)

Well .10cents per kWH * .100 watts * 6 hours = 6 cents. So the answer is don't worry about it :)

Re:Charge iPods? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841974)

Think about the fuel-powered-iPod owners, you insensitive clod !

Cheap Power! (1)

0jjjjjjjjjj0 (1024211) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842028)

Only 10c/kWh? I knew we've been getting ripped off in Australia, paying some 15 or 18 cents per kWh, depending on where one lives. Oh, the kilowatt-hour should be abbreviated to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwh [wikipedia.org] ...

Re:Charge iPods? (1)

Lally Singh (3427) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840998)

I suspect that when the engines need the power, they'll take precedence. Sheesh, modern electronics do have a level of sophistication to them...

Re:Charge iPods? (2, Interesting)

frosty_tsm (933163) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841078)

The engines generate electricity much like the alternator in your car does. Yes, having a bigger alternator takes away some power from the engine. But if the engine is designed to handle the load of the alternator and still have plenty of power to do it's job, then there is no problem.

Power outlets and more TVs just require more juice than what was used in the past. People are plugging their laptops in and watching DVDs for entire flights. Charging a plane full of iPods seems rather trivial in comparison.

Re:Charge iPods? (1)

AikonMGB (1013995) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842136)

I think your analogy is flawed.. While it is true that any AC generator could be called an alternator [wikipedia.org] , this term is usually reserved for devices used in the automotive industry, specifically with internal combustion engines. A turbofan engine [wikipedia.org] has much more in common with a gas-turbine engine [wikipedia.org] , the output shaft of which is then connected to an electrical generator. Even still, this analogy is weak, as the primary use of a gas-turbine engine is to generate rotary power at the output shaft, while in a turbofan engine this power is put directly into increasing the airflow through the intake fan.

Your point however remains: the power requirements of a jetliner a large when compared to the power required to charge the passengers' iPods, and the vast majority of this power is reserved for thrust. Conventional turbofan engines are built with quite broad safety margins. I don't have a reference handy, but I'm sure the additional power requirements of charging these iPods would be negligible in most of the requirements calculations.

Aikon-

Re:Charge iPods? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841478)

Yes, when you plug in your ipod, the wings will suddenly lose all their lift. As the plane enters a stall, the control surfaces will stop responding as the power drain caused by the ipod drains all the hydraulics. As the ipod drains power, it'll also drain air, causing the cabin pressure to drop. At that point, the ipod will be draining enough energy to cause a total and complete failure of internal and external lighting, avionics, and the microwave in which the stewardess was warming up a 2-day-old piece of chicken. At this point, as the aircraft is happily plunging down in the dark (did I mention it's night?) at over 1000fpm, the engines will start failing, unable to keep up with the power demand. The pilots will desperately try to start the APU in order to provide power to restart the engines. They will attempt to shut off all nonessential systems, however, at that point your ipod will become so power hungry that simply touching the switch will vaporize the pilot, the copilot, and the entire flight deck (it happens in the movies, so it can happen in reality, right?). The APU will overload in 3 seconds and explode, because of the huge power demand of the ipod. As your aircraft continues falling down, with a damaged nose and tail, the ipod will reach a critical mass of, uh, power, exploding in a bright white flash, annihilating anyone within 300 miles. It will then become somewhat of a black hole. It will begin sucking everything in through its recharge socket. Eventually, the whole universe will collapse and fold into the ipod. When ipod is the only piece of matter that remains, it will allow you to play 2 hours of video.

What they aren't telling you.. (2, Informative)

s31523 (926314) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840710)

You have to use a "special" FAA approved cable to connect to the video input of the screen as well as the charging unit. The airline will provide this to you for $5 which includes the rental price of the monitor.

MPAA Air martials (2, Funny)

jigjigga (903943) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840776)

Oh noes! Now we will have MPAA Air martials watching for dvd-screeners and cams.

Re:What they aren't telling you.. (1)

dalmiroy2k (768278) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840910)

If true, it's still a good deal

Re:What they aren't telling you.. (1)

Steve525 (236741) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841092)

You have to use a "special" FAA approved cable to connect to the video input of the screen as well as the charging unit. The airline will provide this to you for $5 which includes the rental price of the monitor.

Is that a one time purchase, or am I actually just renting the cable? $5 per flight is a little steep, but not horrible depending on the length of the flight. If it's a one time purchase, then who cares, (except for the fact that now you have to carry around the extra cable)?

Or, are you just joking? Sarcasm is sometimes hard to read.

Re:What they aren't telling you.. (1)

Constantine Evans (969815) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841406)

The grandparent is guessing that the system will be like headphones on planes. In that case, for US carriers, the price will be for renting the cable, unless you already have one, in which case it will be a "monitor access fee" and will be the exact same price.

Re:What they aren't telling you.. (1)

foo12 (585116) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842256)

I fly United. I know not of these charges for headphones.

Re:What they aren't telling you.. (1)

s31523 (926314) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841426)

Oh sorry.. I am just guessing. Remember when the airlines had music that you could listen to, but the connection was that weird 2-pronged thing that only worked with the special headsets, which they charged $3 for. You got to keep the headset though, but you undoubtedly threw it out...

i'm waiting (1)

User 956 (568564) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840730)

So how long until we get ipod connectors for samsung's machine gun sentry robots [youtube.com] ? They could even use that song "let the bodies hit the floor" in the commercial.

infinite sadness. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16840732)


i couldnt even use a walkman on a plane once. or a laptop. or a cell phone.

ipods will take over the earth once their interface has been attached to every fscking device known to man.

'my 50 megaton nuke has 3 gigs of mp3s on it, nuggah'

oh, first post in 3 years, ever since the /. hivemind took my karmas away (nuggahs)

Re:infinite sadness. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841422)

oh, first post in 3 years, ever since the /. hivemind took my karmas away (nuggahs)
Glad to see that the hivemind makes SOME good choices.

same issue (3, Insightful)

flynt (248848) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840740)

Don't airlines already have the same issue with laptops? Those have approximately the same angle from screen to the eyes of person next to you, especially in coach. My guess is it won't be an issue. Perhaps if a polite request doesn't make you stop, they can disable your screen from the front?

Re:same issue (1)

SiliconEntity (448450) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841088)

Yeah, what's the etiquette for looking at porn on your laptop while flying? I've never done it but I'm not the kind of guy who would do that in public. I've never seen it done either.

Re:same issue (3, Funny)

soft_guy (534437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841536)

Yeah, what's the etiquette for looking at porn on your laptop while flying?

You are supposed to ask the woman next to you if she wants to joint the mile high club. Do that while pointing at your laptop screen. It is sure to impress her.

Snakes on a plane? (2, Interesting)

Roadmaster (96317) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840786)

Why would this movie, or Alive, or even United 93 or Twin Towers be inappropriate? it's not like I'm going to show it to a hysteria-prone man on the brink of snapping and hijacking the plane. If I have it on my iPod I know what it's about and I maintain full control to turn off the movie at any time.

Gee, it's not like watching it is actually going to make snakes appear in the plane. Plus, I don't think it'd be nearly as bad as depicted in the movie.

why would it be inappropriate? It's not (1)

User 956 (568564) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840884)

Why would this movie, or Alive, or even United 93 or Twin Towers be inappropriate? it's not like I'm going to show it to a hysteria-prone man on the brink of snapping and hijacking the plane.

Yeah, it's no more inappropriate than watching "The Towering Inferno" in a crowded theatre.

Re:Snakes on a plane? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16840996)

Airlines show all Hollywood movies *except* these movie, therefore they are considered "inappropriate" by the airlines.

Re:Snakes on a plane? (2, Interesting)

bjprice (863197) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841246)

Not true.

A friend is flying with Qantas from Heathrow to visit me in Bangkok on Saturday.

They will be screening Oliver Stone's "World Trade Center" on the flight.

Zune Compatibility? (5, Funny)

gsslay (807818) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840806)

I'm more interested in Zune compatability. Can I use Zune's great wifi capabilities to exchange MP3s with the onboard flight navigation system? They're DRMed to 3 days, but when your life expectancy is 1 hour max, who cares?!

And when we crash, we'll go down grooving.

Re:Zune Compatibility? (4, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841314)

Ok, you got modded funny, but why not put a regular USB port on the seat back, and allow people to hook up any USB mass storage device, and play the media from that. Make it a Linux MPlayer thing and it would be able to play just about anything. Why do companies keep on locking themselves into one device when it would be much easier to support a large number of devices. If they're worried about DRM on the files, then work out a deal with apple so that they can decrypt the files on the iPod.

Re:Zune Compatibility? (3, Insightful)

Myself (57572) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841474)

Or better yet, an NTSC or VGA input so any old device could drive it, including iPods. Imagine that. No codec problems, no DRM issues, etc. Provide 12vDC power the same way they've always done. If they want to rent iPod-specific cable sets for video and charging, that's fine.

Re:Zune Compatibility? (2, Funny)

EvilNTUser (573674) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841704)

"Why do companies keep on locking themselves into one device when it would be much easier to support a large number of devices."

Yeah, that was my first reaction too; this is a horrible development. The future could offer wonderful potential for ubiquitous connectivity, but policies like these will only ensure that actually interfacing with devices in practice will be harder than ever. We'd be better off with RS-232, frankly.

Re:Zune Compatibility? (1)

jcr (53032) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841726)

Why do companies keep on locking themselves into one device when it would be much easier to support a large number of devices.
They're supporting the largest number of devices they can. Perhaps you meant the widest variety of models?

The long and short of it is, the airlines have made a sensible business decsion. There are many tens of millions of iPods, and the others combined don't amount to a hill of beans.

-jcr

Re:Zune Compatibility? (1)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842070)

considering the zune cant even play video this is not even an issue. If you have zune docks, why not my toaster. It is just as capable as playing video as the zune.

Re:Zune Compatibility? (1)

SillyNickName4me (760022) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841944)

allow people to hook up any USB mass storage device, and play the media from that.

Unless you seriously restrict the types of media that can be played, this system will be vulnerable for all kinds of malicious software.

Make it a Linux MPlayer thing and it would be able to play just about anything.

Have you veer wondered why there is no Linux distribution comming with mplayer binaries that play almost everything?

Why do companies keep on locking themselves into one device when it would be much easier to support a large number of devices. If they're worried about DRM on the files, then work out a deal with apple so that they can decrypt the files on the iPod.

Because companies want to deal with one provider instead of a zillion of them.

wha? (0, Flamebait)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840826)

will let you display video from your iPod on the screen of the seat in front of you

That means you'll have to stand up and look over someone's shoulder if you want to see your video.

Is that supposed to be Apple's response to Zune sharing?

Re:wha? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841198)

Um, dude, the screens are on the seat in front of you. They're on the back of the seat.

Censorship? (0, Redundant)

Jerrry (43027) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840850)

I wonder how the airlines are going to keep inappropriate video (i.e. porn or even just movies like "Snakes on a Plane" or "Alive") from appearing on the seat-back displays."

Why would movies like Snakes on a Plane be inappropriate for viewing on an airplane? Porn I can understand, but mass-market movies?

Re:Censorship? (1)

waif69 (322360) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840924)

The concern would be the potential un-parental approved watching of movies by children. There are many movies that parents do not want their children exposed to at a too-young age. Some things are not age appropriate and sometimes children fly alone on planes, or the parents catch a nap in-flight, etc. I think you get the point.

Re:Censorship? (1)

grungebox (578982) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841020)

Snakes on a Plane is an "airline disaster" movie of sorts. It might push people already apprehensive about flying over the edge, or it might end up scaring kids who happen to glance at the video, or the person watching might panic. It's not terribly unreasonable to keep such movies off the plane.

CNN Airport Network (1)

EVil Lawyer (947367) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841508)

What I've always found amusing is that CNN's "Airport Network" is really just CNN edited to not show any breaking airline disaster / hijacking etc. news. The end up subbing in entertainment, sports, and weather whenever there is breaking air-related bad news on CNN.

... to keep inappropriate (1)

WickedLogic (314155) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840868)

How are they going to? They better not, well the adult stuff I can understand because it is not private viewing, but I certainly do not see a problem with other movies.

Stop doing the thought police's work for them, we do not need protecting from ourselfs... just our government. And even then, it is more that they should feel the need to protect themselves from their citizens (if they are doing wrong).

Re:... to keep inappropriate (1)

Rob Cypher (1023527) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842230)

It's not about big brother keeping you down. It's about being considerate of the fact that some people are terrified about flying (and/or about terrorism) and playing certain movies might send them over the edge. Sometimes the greater good is actually good!

laptop (0, Redundant)

hey (83763) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840888)

Can you use the power to charge a laptop!

Re:laptop (1, Informative)

quanticle (843097) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841260)

Not really. The iPod charger outputs a max. of 5v DC. Most laptop chargers output ~9-12v DC. Also, laptop chargers draw significantly more current than iPod chargers.

Re:laptop (1)

NetCurl (54699) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841968)

Incorrect. The newer, especially 5G, iPod spec states you can do anything between 12 and 30 VDC.

The reason for locking into the iPod is because the airlines will be buying equipment from the in-flight entertainment vendor that will include software to seamlessly interface with the iPod, ie, loading all the information of what you have on the iPod. They will authenticate and have access to iPod audio and video through the 30-pin connector on the bottom. The in-flight software will have a nice iPod-ish interface to access your device while your device sits in a cradle in the seatback in front of you.

Thats why it won't be universal, as you would have no way of knowing how to interface the UI in front of you with whatever device, format, size, filesystem, you had brought on board.

It would be theoretically possible to charge a laptop, very slowly, from this 30-pin header if you rolled your own interposer cable to translate the power over, but it won't output enough current to power your backlight at anything below very dim. If you were playing games of video, it wouldn't have a net charge from that cable.

I've got an idea (5, Insightful)

meeotch (524339) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840900)

I wonder how the airlines are going to keep inappropriate video (i.e. porn or even just movies like "Snakes on a Plane" or "Alive") from appearing on the seat-back displays."

How about by /asking/ people not to? Or a little sign that says, "Please be aware of your neighbors and/or their children, and do not watch video that may disturb them." Sheesh.

Offtopic, but - who's up for a "no kids" airline? I'd definitely pay an extra $10 per flight to ensure there aren't any crying babies onboard.

Re:I've got an idea (1)

Sassinak (150422) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841362)

Heck, I'd go so far as 50 dollars for a no screaming baby flight. (and a extra 25 for that cute lady I ALWAYS see walking 7 rows behind).

Re:I've got an idea (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841840)

On the flipside, that cute lady would probably pay $100 to NOT sit next to you.

Re:I've got an idea (1)

gt_mattex (1016103) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841370)

This leads to subjective estimates on what is appropriate until all thats left are Disney Movies.

Re:I've got an idea (3, Funny)

Bazman (4849) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841438)

A wit once said there were two classes of travel, 'First Class', and 'With Children'.

Re:I've got an idea (1)

soft_guy (534437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841574)

I have never been bothered by children on an airplane. I think certain people just hate children. And I think those people are jerks.

Re:I've got an idea (4, Interesting)

Speare (84249) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841636)

Kinda weird how you first seemed almost humanist, what with your suggestion to communicate and use common sense in social situations. Then you turn a quick 180 and suggest artificial class barriers to society like "with children" vs "you." Sure, some kids are annoying because they don't understand why their ears are hurting. Some people in seat 13B are annoying because they like watching the climax of "Airport 1977" on a bigscreen laptop and can't understand why it might be a bit anxiety-inducing for their neighbors. If you can live with one but not the other, what does that say about you?

Re:I've got an idea (4, Funny)

Sax Maniac (88550) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841658)

Personally, I'm up for a no fat people airline. And no smelly people. And no people with brown skin. And no Mormons! Or old people, they're too slow.

Re:I've got an idea (1)

dantheman82 (765429) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841730)

The crying babies can be offset by a decent set of headphones and the iPod jackup. Apple has you covered...

Re:I've got an idea (2, Funny)

Wellington Grey (942717) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842004)

Offtopic, but - who's up for a "no kids" airline? I'd definitely pay an extra $10 per flight to ensure there aren't any crying babies onboard.


I've always assumed that virgin airlines would be the natural ones to take up that cause.

-Grey [wellingtongrey.net]

Re:I've got an idea (1)

Reesy (1027242) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842084)

Id be up for a no kids airline. Trying to catch some much needed sleep the weekend while flying was impossible with the screaming kids. I suppose one advantage of the budget airlines is you can just move to a free seat when you have no seat number.

Re:I've got an idea (1)

nblender (741424) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842274)

"Offtopic, but - who's up for a "no kids" airline? I'd definitely pay an extra $10 per flight to ensure there aren't any crying babies onboard."

What, you were never a kid? Hatched when you were 24? I'm up for a "no intolerant assholes" airline. In fact, why don't you just stay home so the rest of us don't have to deal with you.

Inappropriate video not a new problem (4, Insightful)

nganju (821034) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840954)

You can get on a plane, open up your laptop and play inappropriate video right now. I don't think this has been a huge problem so far, and I don't see how ipod-seat-back-video makes this problem any worse.

Just a thought (2, Funny)

jsebrech (525647) | more than 7 years ago | (#16840966)

I wonder how the airlines are going to keep inappropriate video (i.e. porn or even just movies like "Snakes on a Plane" or "Alive") from appearing on the seat-back displays.

The same way they keep you from running up and down the plane mid-flight shouting "we're all gonna die!".

Besides, it's not even necessarily the passengers who rile up things. A few years ago I was on a plane waiting for take-off where the stewardess figured that the best solution to calm pre-take-off nerves would be to put on the radio through the cabin speakers. Much to her surprise, the song playing at that very moment was "killing me softly", and you can all have a guess which words came out of the speakers first...

Electronics on planes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841048)

I thought iPods, cellphones, and such were banned from being part of the carryon bagage since they can produce shorts for bombs. Or did they lift the ban? I haven't traveled in a while and would like to know :(

Inappropriate video (1)

Leebert (1694) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841058)


I wonder how the airlines are going to keep inappropriate video (i.e. porn or even just movies like "Snakes on a Plane" or "Alive") from appearing on the seat-back displays."

I'll wager they'll do it just the same way that they would handle a person that is playing inappropriate video on their 15" laptop sitting on the tray table in front of them. My guess is that would be to ignore it unless a passenger complains, then politely ask the viewer to turn it off.

Personally, were I a flight attendant, I would discreetly ask those around if it offended them. If it didn't, I'd ignore it.

Sick Of Ipod This Ipod That (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841080)

Anyone else just plain tired of Ipod monopoly showing up everywhere? What about those of us who have Cretative Zen Visions or other Video media players? Are we just screwed?

Stop catering to just one damn format.

Re:Sick Of Ipod This Ipod That (2, Insightful)

mbaudis (585035) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841716)

... What about those of us who have Cretative Zen Visions or other Video media players? Are we just screwed?

not that it would matter, but: YES

Distract you from how much flying sucks (1)

bigbigbison (104532) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841090)

I would just be happy if they made the seats big enough and with enough leg room so that I wouldn't feel like I'm packed in like a sardine. Anything else is just a way to distract us from thinking about how much flying sucks.

Re:Distract you from how much flying sucks (1)

sprocketbox (636698) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842052)

Can I get an Amen to this one?!?!



How about this, an airline that doesn't try and serve me crappy food and half a can of pop or wow me with seat back entrainment? But instead one that gives me a wider seat and a little more leg room.

Re:Distract you from how much flying sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16842108)

They do. It's called first class.

Wrong display? (0)

phalse phace (454635) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841114)

From the Apple Press Release:
....allow the video content on their iPods to be viewed on the their seat back displays.


Why would the person behind me want or even care to see videos from my iPod on their display? Wouldn't it be a better idea to display the videos on the display in front of me and not on the display on the back of my seat?

Re:Wrong display? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841180)

+0.2 slightly funny

laptop argument (2, Insightful)

ottc777 (1027218) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841250)

laptop use is slightly different. It's usually low enough and in a position that only someone sitting directly beside you or behind you (cracks in the seat) can see the crap you're watching. The screens on the seatbacks are up higher and at greater visability. I bet there's going to be at least one 733t dork who will feel it necessary to play a 0-day movie to show off his h@xor sk1llz.

Inappropriate MY ASS... (0, Redundant)

posterlogo (943853) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841302)

...I mean, COME ON, what's the frigging difference between inappropriate video/images and some guy flipping through his Playboy magazine? Flying in an airplane has always been about unwritten rules of conduct, in addition to the encylopediae of written rules.

However... (1)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841778)

Flying in an airplane has always been about unwritten rules of conduct, in addition to the encylopediae of written rules.

It seems people are increasingly ignoring those unwritten rules, not to mention the written ones.

I have to say, I really think the lack of courteousness is directly due to being crammed into a long, uncomfortable flight. Cram people into a box like an animal, and they're going to act like animals.

Next news headline... (2, Funny)

dimer0 (461593) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841328)

... Microsoft to buy Quantas Airlines - Quantas will be first to have z00n wireless

QANTAS steals "U" from U-Tube (1)

0jjjjjjjjjj0 (1024211) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841924)

In other news, Australian airline Qantas has today solved U-Tube's problems related to sounding like YouTube by purchasing the "U" from their name. From now on, it's Quantas and -Tube.

This is the airlines kicking MPAA to the curb (4, Interesting)

mirio (225059) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841490)

This is a clever way for the airlines to bypass the MPAA's atrocious licensing fees for movies stored on the aircraft's entertainment system. If the airline doesn't 'own' the copy, they aren't responsible. I predict the MPAA will soon be having shit fits over this system.

ie vs eg (5, Informative)

Myopic (18616) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841526)

The poster uses "ie" to list inappropriate content for airplanes, but he is mistaken: instead, he wants "eg". "Ie" introduces an exhaustive list, or restates the category completely, whereas "eg" provides examples within the category. So, he gives the category as inappropriate content, and lists three possible types of inappropriate content, so he should use "eg".

The latin phrase for "eg" is "exempli gratia", or, in English, "gratuitous example", which is to say, an example which helps explain the intent of the sentence.

The latin phrase for "ie" is "id est", or, in English, literally "that is", which means you are restating the thing to make the intent clear.

I don't really blame the poster, who might not care about this distinction, a common mistake amongst Americans, but the Slashdot editors sure as hell should care, being that they are paid to provide that service. That's an old complaint, though, and it's fairly clear the editors don't care either.

If you're going to be a Nazi (5, Informative)

slashdotwriter (972437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842014)

at least do it right: 1. Learn Latin so you understand the grammatical structure and meaning of the expression "exempli grata". 2. Learn how to spell: "i.e.", "e.g.". Without the abbreviating periods, the sequences of letters "ie", "eg" don't mean anything in English. "Latin" should be capitalized in English.

I'm all in favor of iPods on a plane... (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841534)

Just as long as it doesn't lead to THIS! [roughlydrafted.com]

iPod takes off (1)

jcr (53032) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841608)

While "zoon" craters. I love it.
-jcr

Standard Formats (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841692)

It's a nice thing to have, but would be far nicer if these manufacturers played nicely with each other and came up with standard connector and protocols for audio, video, etc. All the ridiculous proprietary formats are getting us nowhere (SOny, I'm looking at you). If you make one of these products, at least donate the patent on the format to the public domain to give some semblance of a willingness to compete.

Finally (1)

Zatic (790028) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841722)

pr0n instead of Monster, Inc.

I would expect... (0, Redundant)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841748)

I wonder how the airlines are going to keep inappropriate video (i.e. porn or even just movies like "Snakes on a Plane" or "Alive") from appearing on the seat-back displays.


Probably, the same way they keep "inappropriate content" in other media (say, porn in dead-tree form) from "appearing" in the passenger compartment.

KLM? Air France? (2, Informative)

SillyNickName4me (760022) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841764)

According to this Dutch news site [www.nu.nl] Air France and KLM said they were not aware of such a deal with them.

iPod movies playable from water taxi's and.. (1)

CouchP (769984) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841766)

subsequent legislation to ban the playing of any movies with Leonardo DeCaprio or Shelly Winters has simultaniously been proposed!

This is a terrible idea - back to boomboxes (1)

slashdotwriter (972437) | more than 7 years ago | (#16841774)

The iPod - and the Walkman before it - in many ways replaced the boombox. No longer would travelers or commuters force their own choice of music on others. Exit audio pollution, hello visual pollution!

Every nano runs out of juice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#16841802)

During an intercontinental flight? I've got a 2nd gen nano that hardly goes out of juice after the 20+ hours. Are there flights which last longer than that?

however will they do it? (2, Funny)

entropy42 (109731) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842080)

I wonder how the airlines are going to keep inappropriate video (i.e. porn or even just movies like "Snakes on a Plane [CC]" or "Alive [CC]") from appearing on the seat-back displays.

Yeah, we've only had portable DVD players for about eight years, so the issue has never come up before. I assume they'll put several viewing enforcement marshalls on every flight - that's the most straightforward answer, anyway.

Great until (1)

Zatic (790028) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842148)

some terrorist plot to blow up 10 airplanes mid-atlantic using consumer electronic devices is busted last-minute.

Then flying will again suck even more.

will they interrupt playback ... (4, Insightful)

rwx (41027) | more than 7 years ago | (#16842202)

every ten minutes when they announce that the beverage cart will be starting soon? That's one reason I prefer my own entertainment device: I decide when to hit pause.
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